'I hope people complain about how much story we have,' says Destiny 2 director

'That'd be the Reddit thread I'd like to read: Too much damn story!'

[EatCrow]

Another red flag that the game could very well be as bad as the first regarding story...
Its not about the amount of "story" but the quality of it that people will complain about.

[Skull521]

It's too bad the first game was bad enough that I'm not going to try the second. Bungie's talent clearly moved over to 343 industries. Current Bungie is not the great studio any more that produced the fantastic Halo universe.

[Sam Fisher]

Yeap, i feel half of that problem was due to making the engine (especially cross gen) and activision, but i was going to get this eventually untill ea announced their destiny. Rather take a chance on a new title then going back to this and expecting the hurt. Btw fuck the cryptarc. Hope he rotted in the ambush of the cabal.

[slate91]

Eh, I wouldn't say all of that Skull521. I feel like they made a well polished and well made game. But the story was clearly lacking and repeating strikes/missions was a grindfest. I feel like they could fix that with a few tweaks and get it where it needs to be. The raw game is there at least. Now just add a great story to follow.

[Shin-Zantetsuken]

Damn... this franchise gets so much hate... I guess it is not for everyone but there are millions that love it. It is one of top Twitch streams and there are several Youtube channels dedicated to Destiny. The gunplay is awesome and the loot system keeps people playing for their perfect gear and dream gun. The classes are varied and very fun to play. Both PvP and PvE are still very active. The soundtrack is just beautiful and gets my blood pumping during boss fights. It is just that the story was all put in the Grimoire cards which is bad storytelling. The story great and there are numerous Youtube channels dedicated to the lore and story. Now Bungie claims they are fixing that and putting story in the game including the lore. No more grimoire cards so that is an improvement.

Many people hate the franchise but I and millions others have been playing since launch. It is just so much fun to use different classes to do strikes or play PvP daily. All the while trying to learn using different weapon types and searching for your perfect dream gun for each type. It is very engrossing.

[BiggerBoss]

Considering how Halo 5 turned out, I wouldn't say much talent went over to 343...

[kevnb]

there are many gamers that want as little story as possible, many people complain about too much story in mmos.

[EatCrow]

If the story is good and awesome then no gamer will complain. If it feels out of place or like it shouldn't be there it just indicates that it's the wrong kind of story and if it's not entertaining then it's just bad story. With most mmos the story of side quests, of which there are many, is normally terrible and uninteresting... Bad story.

[FPS_D3TH]

Lol you guys will see whatever you guys want to see. It's obvious people here just want the game to fail.

[Dragonscale]

So true. Theres still a lot of fanatx butthurt that bungie left ms lol.

[yomfweeee]

How is having a lot of story any indication that the story will be bad? You're saying it is a red flag because they said there will be a lot of story.... kind of ridiculous.

[EatCrow]

Go play an mmo and do all those sidequests....sound fun?
Dont be ridiculous.

[yomfweeee]

You're the one being ridiculous jumping to conclusions and now comparing it to an MMO.

[Tru_Blu]

Story sucked in 1 but the gunplay was excellent imo.

[EatCrow]

Completely agree about the gunplay.

[Eonjay]

Someone will always have something to complain about. It's is some people's soul to be insulted. They can't survive unless they think everything is always stacked agonist them. They are the same type of people that don't understand why they are fat. It's your fault they are fat and you have to agree with them.

[Sam Fisher]

Lmfao that fat part was funny left field, but you are correct 100%, i used to be one of those guys and the moment i started losing weight, yo all my hate disappeared 👻.

[Eonjay]

Cheers! And congrats!

[lptmg]

well, what if the story is shit

[FPS_D3TH]

Time will tell but taken king grimoires told some of the best sci fi stories. Always said they just need to find a way to present it better and it'll be one of the better sci fi universes out there

[Relientk77]

I don't even have time to explain why I don't even have time to explain. There's too much story.

Destiny 1, the opposite lol

[Sam Fisher]

😂 lmao, hope this doesn't backfire on them

[Jakens]

D2 will sell big numbers, I'm not worried.

[InTheZoneAC]

It looks like I'm going to be playing battlefront 1/2 a lot if bungie refuses to address dedicated servers PvP along with 60fps

As for D2 story content, it better not be like those clickbait sites that have one picture and a few words for every page, but there's dozens of pages to go through

[FPS_D3TH]

How can you liken a game's story content to website clickbait? Is every "page" a game level? Is each picture a setting and words the story? What a lame comparison

[InTheZoneAC]

how can you not understand my point? Some sites have an article broken up into several links, meaning is D2's story content going to be full of quality or will it be false hope and thinly spread over the entire game?

[FPS_D3TH]

Because it sucked? How can it be thinly spread out if they just said the game is exploding with story?

[masterfox]

lol sarcasm ? 😂

[chris235]

thanks, but i'll gladly will wait until they finished milking this lame franchise. when they are ready to develop something new - then i'll be ready to open my wallet for them again.

[Gh05t]

"We're learning from and listening to all the feedback we got on Destiny 1, and we're applying it," says Ward.

Was it the story that was bad or the lack of content? Adding a bunch of cinematic cut scenes is not going to make me want to play this game any more. It literally gets in the way of the action and in a game like this action is why it is played. People hated the Destiny story because you put most of it in block paragraphs that had to be read outside the game from cards you collected... Who came up with that idea?

People wanted more content that goes along with the story, the interactive part not the passive watching part.

People play games, not watch games.

[opinionated]

Hopefully it's not cutscene heavy. Some slow dramatic bore like a naughty dog game. That's the only reason people would complain and I'm not sure why he's hoping for that.

[Star51]

Naughty Dog's games have been anything but a bore.

[opinionated]

The last few have been annoyingly boring. You don't have to agree but I think we can both agree that a drawn out, dramatic hallmark movie isn't what destiny fans are looking for.

[Star51]

No one's looking for a Hallmark movie. I detest cheap sentiment as much as anyone. But, I don't think it's a fair assessment to align UC4 or TLOU with that aesthetic. People have emotions. Exploring them isn't trivial--it's character.

[opinionated]

Exactly, I see them as cheap sentiment. Exploring emotions can be done in many ways, it doesn't have to be a slow drag. Being emo is trivial.

[guyman]

Triggered lmao. When did naughty dog have anything to do with this? Just another desparate fanboy, move along people

[opinionated]

Triggered? The article is about story dummy lol. So much story "people would complain about it". Like a naughty dog game. All said is that I simply I don't want naughty dog storytelling in destiny. The only one triggered is you pal lmao.

"Oh my god he said naughty dog! Sony defense force assemble! I want damage control on both exits, keep the crowds moving! Nothing to see here!" And you call me a desperate fanboy 😏

[slappy508]

@Opninated Naughty dog arentn the only developers synonomous with story based games. Yet you brought them up. In a Destiny article. So fuck off you big oaf

[opinionated]

@slappy
"They aren't the only ones"
Yeah, it's called an example. Moron... They are a good example of cinematic storytelling. The most successful for sure.

[2cents]

-_-

Not funny. You have not earned the right to joke based off how sh1t the first games story was.

[Jakens]

They got to my humor, I laughed.

[Inzo]

Well as long as we dont complain about the gameplay the story should fine.

[Chaosdreams]

Big statement to make from a team that delivered zero story the first go around.

[one2thr]

As long as I dont have to goto Bungie.net to read grimior cards for a huge chunk of the story, then Im a-ok with the in game story telling.

[XStation4pio_Pro]

Oh don't worry. Gamers will complain about that and a whole bunch of other things no matter what you do. One day there will be a GEICO commercial featuring a gamer " if you're a gamer, you complain. It's what you do" and it will show some dude shredding some other guy on twitter for putting his dog in a not completely accurate cosplay outfit.

[starrman1985]

For me it wasn't really an issue with the story, okay, it was pretty crap, but Destiny was more of a loot game for me. My issue with Destiny 1 was launch content, so I really hope this one has more like the content of The Taken King!

[TheRealHeisenberg]

I agree and add that they took far too long to make old raid gear relevant again. Did they ever raise the light level for the HoW content?

[starrman1985]

Hmm, it raised to 400 Light but that was just with the Hard raid, they never did an additional raise no. If it launches with the content of TTK I will be incredibly happy, as that was really how the base game should have been! However it looks like they're doing the exact same content plan for year 2, so I just hope the base game has a nice amount of content.

[jugo14]

doubt that will happen as they are abandoning the story from the first game (i.e the darkness) I mean they themselves had no idea what it was. Thats story telling at its worst.

[FPS_D3TH]

Not exactly. They're not abandoning it, just redefining it. It was called the darkness because it wasn't understood. I'd imagine it would be a named entity other than "the darkness. It's not going away though as they're is an opposite dark entity that's just like the traveler that Xur speaks about that'll likely show up towards the end of the destiny 2 lifespan

[drunkenspy007]

I hope they learn to increase their fireteam size. more than 3 people.

[NecoTehSergal]

Well since 90% of the story in Destiny 1 was removed and shoe-horned in Destiny 2 likely :^)

[cellfluid]

Why would they do a beta on a Tuesday?? Why not today which is Friday so people could go in on the weekend!!! Dam rituals #counter