Dragon Quest Heroes 4, switch comparison

Dragon Quest Heroes 4, switch comparison.

[naruga]

it would be news if it wasnt ....

[lxtrxi]

Looks like it could be a PS Vita port too, many visual downgrade similarities to the two versions.

[Vhampir]

Well duh, Switch and Vita both use ARM Cortex based processors. It'd be a lot more work to start off with AMD64.

[Omeganex9999]

@Vhampir

They do, but the Switch is much, MUCH more powerful than the Vita. But there's no doubts that portings will never take full advantage of the console.

In portable mode is going to be amazing.

[thekhurg]

Let me guess. Thisgengaming's next article is going to be titled "Water is Wet!"

[Eonjay]

Well of course we would expect the more powerful machine to produce higher facility results, as we would the Scorpio to outperform the PS4. Or that dual Titan X setup on YouTube vs anything. It's perfectly normal.

[bouzebbal]

This game isn't the most demanding

[Ron_Danger]

@bouzebbal

Which really says something about the Switch's power. A console releasing 4 years later at the same price shouldn't be this noticeably weaker. The Switch really is a WiiU 2.0.

[bouzebbal]

Dragon Quest heroes 4, ok!

[Nu]

I knew something was off right away. Glad it's confirmed now.

[XanderZane]

Does the SWITCH start a new generation?

[Profchaos]

No not really it's more so just doing its own thing in the corner like the moody teenager who doesn't really care to join in your conformist generation games.

Although maybe it starts a new hand-held console generation?

[kneon]

@micbrc

Except it's too big to be a viable handheld for most people. It's not good as a mobile device and underpowered as a console, that's why I'm expecting the Wii U all over again.

[Kokyu]

@kneon

Not to mention its battery life will be a major downfall makeing almost useless as a portiable gaming machine.

[XanderZane]

Why did I get disagrees? I was asking a question. lol!!

@micbrc
Well it's a game console first from what Reggie is telling us. Being portable like a handheld is an option for gamers. Nintendo will market this as a game console and it's seems to be different and a bit similar to the Wii & Wii U. So why wouldn't it be a new generation? Even the Wii U started a new generation. Would Scorpio be part of generation 9 as well?

@Zeldafan64
Well, because it does matter to gamers who care about console generations. When a brand new hardware is released it should be decided as to what generation it will be a part of.

[Zeldafan64]

Who cares? I know I don't and I know a lot of others don't as well. Why make such a big deal out of something that doesn't matter?

[Stapleface]

@bg LMAO! You know it.

[Letthewookiewin]

I can't wait to play this friggin game the first was so good.

[DC777]

Well considering DQH is gorgeous on PS4, this is very disappointing from new tech, with a cartoony game.

If this is really the tv version of this game it's a terrible prediction of what's to come.

[Kokyu]

@Ron_Danger

Its not even Wii U 2.0 its more Wii U .25.

[XanderZane]

Yeah, but it's not a Wii U. It's not even called a Wii at all.

[ZaWarudo]

http://gph.is/2gqGtov

[RAM0N]

Lol

[sinjonezp]

Yea that downgrade is scary bad looking. Like they took out everything almost all the effects shadows and textures

[DragonDDark]

I'm so shocked by this news. *Chew*

[Nu]

Bacca?

[Cybermario]

i was expecting a MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA gif haha

[Nu]

The coach looks utterly disappointed at my favorite football team..

[PhoenixUp]

Well that's not surprising all things considered. Expect the same downgrade to happen for Dragon Quest XI.

I just hope Square Enix releases this compilation later on for PS4

[blackblades]

Expect a downgrade for alot of games.

[Ron_Danger]

Not if you compare the Switch version of games to the Vita version that they'll be ported from.
😂

[-Foxtrot]

We shouldn't see this happen to a console which is a generation ahead.

The PS4 is probably half way, or a little over half way through it's life cycle and this is happening. Can you imagine what would happen when more developers take advantage of the Pro or Scorpio...they are just mid gen consoles aswell.

God knows what will happen once the PS5/Nextbox comes out.

[EddieNX]

Yes, but 1 is portable and one isn't so ... They didnt just make a weak home console did they, they made a really powerful handheld that docks.

I'm sorry this is taking some of you so long to understand. The ps4 is massive compared to the switch tablet.

Edit - thank you edmix first of all

Where is it bring advertised as a home console? Its a hybrid , taking home console games on the go. All of the processors are in the tablet and you can use it entirely as a handheld, the dock is simply to connect it to TV. If the dock had processers in it, then I'd agree its not a handheld.

[Sm3000]

Reggie said the reason why the switch won't get street pass is bc it's first and foremost a console

[Cdn_Seahawks_Fan]

I am sorry you haven't been reading all the information and interviews, it is a HOME console that has the option to be portable. Reggie even said that it's a home console with this feature and that at this time, the 3DS is their portable alternative for portable only gaming. So with that in mind, you should indeed be comparing it to OTHER HOME CONSOLES. Yes, I just yelled that.

[andrewsquall]

Thanks Captain Hindsight. Its taken some of us this long to understand? This time last week before Friday's disaster it was more powerful than a standard PS4.
Oh and understand that every single comparison on the Switch has been direct comparisons to everything the Wii U was and the 3DS hardly getting mentioned ever except when I did it right there.

[kamisama]

Nintendo themselves are calling it a home console first with the option to go handheld.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I don't disagree with you and The Logical sense as I completely understand what you're talking about, but a lot of this has to do with perception Nintendo has been marketing this as a Home console so why do you think these comparisons would it happen?

I honestly think it was a stupid decision for them to continuously call this a Home console despite knowing that is the area where they fail the most in and they're probably best off marketing this to their handheld install base.

I'm sorry but the same argument can be made about the PSP or really any handheld if you factor all handhelds that release are more powerful than the previous consoles that released.

I just don't see that as a big enough draw.

@sm and cdn- that's nice but at the end of the day this isn't portable you see people walking around with the damn device in their own Marketing in parks and other areas I'm sorry but there's no denying what you see what your own damn eyes.

Might be the dumbest thing I've read in a very long time.

If Nintendo told you it was daytime and you clearly saw it was night time, would they defined that for you too? So what you guys are telling me is you're just pushing all logic and Common Sense aside because the company said so?

Ummmm

I'm sorry but it's a portable.

I'm pretty positive the PSP 3000 having a cord to allow it to play on the television didn't suddenly not make it a portable........

A cord doesn't make my phone, not a portable simply because I could play it on the television.

Sorry folks, but a hand-held simply describes a device that could be used on the go nothing more...

You can use this on the go , that is not something that is a degree of , that is an absolute , it an either or you either can or you can't , it cannot be somewhat of a portable.

it's either portable or it is not.

I could take this with me on the train in use it to play games wirelessly with no other electricity Source other than a battery....

That's a handheld folks I have no clue why anyone still desperately trying to argue this

[freshslicepizza]

@EddieNX

problem is nintendo is marketing this as a console that can be portable instead of the other way around. i guess this way they can charge $60 for games like bomberman.

[Knushwood Butt]

Lol, tell that to monkeyman

[MRMagoo123]

the switch isn't much of a handheld either, unless handhelds need you to carry around a bag to carry it in because it's too big for pockets of any kind. the consoles gonna fail unfortunately for Nintendo

[pleasuretokill]

Yeah, and handheld gaming is garbage. No use for it at all, whatsoever. So..... bye Nintendo. I have no use at all for a $300 underpowered, garbage home console. Sorry, but I'm done with gimmicks. I want power, amazing graphics, highest resolutions possible, ultra high frame rates and total immersion. PC is the future for sure. PS4 Pro and Scorpio are headed in the right direction.

[Cybermario]

Fact, it's a home console and it is why there wont be Street Pass which is a portable feature. David Young, Nintendo of America’s assistant manager of public relations, confirms in interviews IT IS a home console not a portable that dock to a TV. But hey you get a cookie for being passionate (but misinformed)

[_-EDMIX-_]

@cyber- "IT IS a home console not a portable"

Ummmmm ok.

so when the entire world saw this product of people playing it on basketball courts and trains and on airplanes we were just seeing things?

Ummmm

This is the level of stupidity we're talking about regarding this fan base folks..

So the switch is in portable everyone /s lol

So exactly what do you call a product that you could use on the go anywhere with an LCD screen with a battery?

That certainly isn't a portable? If not what exactly is it?

This is the saddest crap I've ever seen of a fanbase so damn desperate to be in the conversation of console they're ready to ignore all logic and Common Sense.

Nintendo's presentation even had a slide that called it a handheld....

So even Nintendo is wrong? Lol

I'm sorry but this is just the dumbest load of crap I've heard from this community in an extremely long time.

The delusion regarding this is just hilarious.

So all this talk about battery life is just lies?

Lol

You guys seriously can't get over that this company made a handheld that could play on the TV?

This is the most delusional denial I've seen from a fanbase literally in the entire history of gaming.

I've never seen something quite like this.

There's a person playing at in the park in their own promotional videos that you have a series of cult Fanatics desperately saying it is not a handheld despite the company saying so and despite the person in the previews all playing at outside of the living room.....

https://fsmedia.imgix.net/d...

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Dude people like you can make excuses for the switch all day every day about how it's a handheld and not a console but nobody is going to believe it because it's not true. It's a hybrid most def but it's looked at has a console first and foremost,it's being sold at a console price and no matter how it's spun it's underpowered and overpriced just like Nintendo always does and just like the last few generations bar the anomaly of the wii it won't sell.

[vickers500]

Yo, EDMIX: I have a request for you. From now on, when you comment, can you not make so many separate paragraphs and instead, bunch them together into bigger chunks? Everytime I see your well thought out and detailed comments I want to read them, but damn, it's a huge wall of text I have to keep scrolling through on my phone and sometimes I just gotta skip because it's too much. Maybe do like 3 or 4 big paragraphs for most of your comments.

Not telling you to do anything, just politely asking. You're in most comment articles I read so I just thought I'd ask. If not, then fine, no biggie.

[Stapleface]

It has a mobile chip and can be taken on the go. It's a portable. The dock has no hardware. All the hardware is in the portable tablet/console. It can be taken on the go and played without a tv. It can be taken on the go. Did I say that already? Maybe people keep missing it. It can be taken with you any where. Nintendo told me water wasn't wet so it isn't. The Switch can be taken anywhere. That makes it a portable. That's like saying a laptop is a desktop pc just because someone said so.

[DC777]

Yeah but it's supposed to do both.

[SegaGamer]

@EddieNX
I don't know why you are getting so many disagree's, what you are saying is true. How can people disagree with facts ?

Also, even if Nintendo were marketing this as a home console capable of being a handheld, it doesn't change anything. We all know where it's strength's lie.

[Emme]

Gamespot interview, just onr of many examples: Reggie explicitly calls it home console.

[Ravenor]

Because graphics are the only driver for purchases of a console, of course. That's why the Xbox beat the PS2 now I get it. It's not even out yet and it's going to have the unfortunate climb of having to deal with ports from x86 to ARM, judging it purely from a W-Force game that isn't out yet and won't be there at launch?

And at the end of the day Eddie and Edmix are right, regardless of what Nintendo says it's a device that has to fit within the parameters of a handheld. That means they're always going to be throttled with what they can do power wise and heat wise, judging this as a 1:1 with current consoles simply doesn't work.

[nevin1]

"Because graphics are the only driver for purchases of a console, of course. That's why the Xbox beat the PS2 now I get it. "

PS2 won via its massive library.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Their fan base cannot take facts.

apparently they have no idea what defines a portable device

At the end of the day the appeal intro of this is that it can be taken on the go as well as put on a television.

....Like the PSP 3000 like the PSP Go.

I'm not entirely sure how anyone is not fully understanding that the design of this platform was clearly made for portability the actual system itself is not the dock.

The CPU and GPU clearly needed to be modified to fit a handheld

The screen is made for a handheld.

The heatsink on the motherboard is designed for a handheld

So I'm not entirely sure where the stupidity is coming from from this install base of fans to continuously desperately try to pretend it fits in the console category in regards to Standalone device only created to play on the television.

It is very clear that the design and the parts used were clearly mainly used to make the device portable.

The main draw of this damn device is that it could be both so why on Earth are idiots on here desperately trying to pretend it's suddenly not a portable? So exactly what are they doing with the device when they pick it up and start walking around outside? So what this install base is telling me is all of us are just seeing an illusion and it's not really portable at all? Even with video evidence in the damn company telling you it's handheld they're desperately trying to say otherwise?

This is the type of desperation you're seeing from Nintendo the fan base of trying to be in the conversation of PlayStation 4 and Xbox One.

Watch when Nintendo goes phone only they're going to desperately try to say cell phones are not portable too lol

So I see a lot of disagrees but I don't see a lot of answers to exactly what the switch is if not a portable what do you call a device that you could walk around with it freely and use with an LCD screen along with the battery? Is that not a portable?

It sounds to me like a lot of you guys are salty that many people called a long time ago they were probably going to go portable only....

I could take this with me on the go and I could use it.

That is a portable regardless of the architecture, regardless of the power, regardless of the games.

Portable simply means functionality on the go and you have this bizarre cult-like Fanatics of Fanboys that are desperately trying to pretend that this does not fit the definition despite the company itself saying so despite the entire draw of the device being that it's both the name is even switch to tell you that it can be both.

But by default it must be a portable before I did anything else.

The entire Hardware was designed to work as a portable and must be designed to work that way.

A simple chord could put your damn phone on the television...

But in order to make all that technology portable more goes into designing a telephone than simply the cord that outs it to the television.

My phone was created to be portable.

Nothing special had to happen to my phone to allow it to run off of a television..

But clearly the construction of my phone took lots of research and lots of engineering to be run portable.

Not the cord folks.

You're not seeing much for supplies trying to dispute this because they're still desperately trying to pretend that they're still in the conversation of home console gaming.

This is a handheld masquerading as a home console

[AcidDvl]

"That's why the Xbox beat the PS2 now I get it." That a ridiculous statement. LOOOL

http://venturebeat.com/2014...
"The PlayStation 2 not only won its console race, but it’s also the best-selling gaming system of all time with around 150 million."

[BVFTW]

EDMIX, I just wanted to point out two holes in your arguments:

*I can use my phone as a portable console with a cord, the cord goes to the phone but I can play with a controller, away from my phone.

*The Switch's CPU and GPU didn't needed to be modified to fit a handheld because Nvidea Tegra tech is mobile tech, its ARM based.

But I agree that Switch is a powerfull handheld-tablet that can act as a capable console when docked. This isn't bad, it's marketed as a console first because the portable market is shrinking.

[AcidDvl]

Just so you know, this guy just PM just to admit that I'm right and did so with PM just to not look bad.

Shame!

[Ravenor]

"That's why the Xbox beat the PS2 now I get it. " Is sarcasm people, it's f-ing sarcasm. I was just illustrating Power is NOT always the main reason a console is successful.

@aciddvl

I pm'd you as there was no way to reply directly to you here. I'm sorry you don't have the reading comprehension skills to understand what it is I said to you. Shame?

[Cybermario]

funny how nintendo joins this generation when ps4 and xbox one is almost 4 years old and yet, lesser hardware, makes no sense.

[MRMagoo123]

the wiiu was the direct competition to the ps4 and xbone tho so it's even worse in reality really because this switch technically should be going up against the ps5.

@eddie

So if I have a pc with an Intel i3 and another pc with an i7 in it the i3 isn't lesser it's just different ? 😂

[Omnislashver36]

^This...

When I'm replaying Final Fantasy VII Remake in 4K60(or near it) on PS5, Nintendo is going to be stuck on 720p/no AA. Come 2019 Ninty will look like idiots.

[EddieNX]

Its not lesser hardware its different hardware. Nvidia tegra is a mobile chip, the ps4 and XB1s chips aren't. End of.

[Emme]

It does, Nintendo hopes to repeat the Wii success: cheap hardware sold for premium price to kids with rich parents. Plus some gimmick.And no extras.

[Kokyu]

The Ps4 (Pro or base) and the xbone ( at least xbone S not scorpio) arent half way more like 3/4 this gen isnt going to be extra long like last gen hell Scorpio is a next gen machine. If it really does native 4k and sells well Sony will have to annouce and push out Ps5.

[Ravenor]

Crystal balls, everyone has one but me.

[trueganesh]

It's not meant to be directly competing with the other two platforms how hard is that to understand? It's a portable/console hybrid the PS4 and Xbox one aren't. Seriously, you're making rather foolish statements, everyone knows what it is, a niche. If Nintendo were to release a high powered box with all the third party games that the xbox one and the playstation had can you imagine how boring that would be for gamers? I'm excited to play on something new, hardware which is different and not nearly identical to one another. I love my PS4, and my Switch will be there to complement my gaming environment.

[corroios]

Where the news here? For a portable the game is good, but for a home console it will always got the worst version of the game.

[yeahokwhatever]

if ANY version..

[Tussin187]

The news is this is exactly why 3rd party doesn't waste their time on Nintendo consoles. Now imagine Battlefield, GTA, Mass Effect, and so forth attempting to run on this thing.

That's the news that Nintendo diehards gloss over but get upset that there's no 3rd party support. 3rd parties will basically have to make a separate version for Nintendo. Almost like a last gen version of the game. Battlefield, for example, would have less players and the visuals won't look nearly as good. On top of that, it probably wouldn't sell. So why waste time and resources? That's the news.And this console is releasing in 2017, 3 years after the competition. Yes it's a hybrid, we get that but the console part is weak as hell. That's the problem.

No disagree from me btw.

[Knushwood Butt]

This.

[Ravenor]

And the part you seem to be glossing over is who benefits from this thing running BF1? Do I need another machine that runs BF1? I already have three.

Third party support has nothing to do with Nintendo's issues.

[yeahokwhatever]

Ravenor, third party support has EVERYTHING to do with Nintendo's issues. Lets say I'm Activision. The sales from COD on each platform basically fund my other projects for said platforms. If I sell 5 million copies on PS4, and 400k on Switch, would it make any sense for me to put MORE money into the Switch making unique games, knowing its going to return me a lot less?

[EverydayGuy]

I would pay $300 for a handheld that can be played on a TV, but not the other way around.

[jaymacx]

in reality it is a portable that hooks up to the tv.. the reason Reggie keeps saying it's a home console first is they don't want 3ds to die off just yet. 3ds is very profitable for them. They got some new releases this week and in the near future so the 3ds lives on.

[EverydayGuy]

I know, but they need to market it like a handheld. Its not going to sell with those weak console specs and having better performance on tablet mode is discouraging.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Portable? According to it's fanboys it cannot be portable...

So don't believe your eyes when you see people walking around in the streets with this and using it because to my understanding they're telling me it's not portable and everything we've seen thus far must have been some sort of lie or Illusion or Twilight Zone trick. Lol

[XStation4pio_Pro]

now THAT is a power disparity... not the ones where you have to magnify the screen to look for sharpness differences.

[Vasto]

The system has to downgrade an anime game?

/SMH

[gangsta_red]

Yeah, that is a little alarming, especially when you read what was left out.

[Pancit_Canton]

If there's a Vita version, it would probably looks better than the switch.

[PhoenixUp]

There is a Vita version of Dragon Quest Heroes 2

[EddieNX]

The switch is roughly 8 times as powerful as the vita. The vita can't even display HD.

[AcidDvl]

Yeah but the Vita is a handheld console from 2011.

Switch is a home console that can be portable from 2017. The key word is "Home Console".

[RAM0N]

But the switch is the new console

[yeahokwhatever]

the switch is an old tablet with new controllers. a joke.

[ziggurcat]

New or not, it's nowhere near as powerful as PS4/Xbox One.

[andrewsquall]

Well what do you expect from a console..... more.. powerful........ then.................... a.................... standard...................... ........ ps4? :(

[MRMagoo123]

you mean less ?

[DarXyde]

Unsurprisingly, really.

It basically becomes a matter of...

(A) Do I want better visuals?

Or

(B) Do I want to take it on the go?

Comes down to personal taste on this one.

[MRMagoo123]

take it on the go 😂 have you seen how big it is ? maybe if you have a backpack to lug it around with.

edit: the 3ds can be played on the go the Nintendo switch is massive it's not even slightly as convenient and who plays games on a tablet on the go besides people that play mobile games like candy crush ? who's going to be able to get into the world of Zelda while taking a 10 minute bus trip.

edit: @darx

yes I have held a switch in Melbourne Australia at the switch event.

you Nintendo fanboys are as bad as the rest all talk no facts and you all look like morons enjoy your life welcome to ignore bye bye now kids

[Bruh]

People don't take tablets on the go? What world do you live in?

[DarXyde]

Oh, you've held the Switch and are speaking for everyone now?

Do go on.

[Ravenor]

Some people have a longer commute than 10 minutes, it's a little bit larger than an iPad mini. It's not pocket size, but it's hardly unreasonably large. My phone almost has the same size screen as the Switch.

[_-EDMIX-_]

?

The actual switch itself is only slightly bigger than the 3DS XL.....

The convenience of what you think it is is irrelevant at the end of the day it was designed to be taken on the go just like their previous handhelds.

[DC777]

It comes down to expecting AA as a minimum requirement when docked as a "home console" in 2017 playing a cartoony game.

[nyobzoo]

geez, wonder if it'll be the PS4 version of Dq11 the switch will get and how much of a downgrade that would be?

[Pancit_Canton]

The switch might get the 3DS version instead.

[PhoenixUp]

That would be a stupid business decision to make

[hirobrotagonist]

.

[ziggurcat]

Considering that the switch is barely half the power of the PS4, how is that surprising?

[cyx]

No shit . wtf were ppl expecting ? That they were gonna be identical?!

[yeahokwhatever]

vita>switch>ps3>ps4.

EDIT: ascending order of how this game looks

[EddieNX]

The Switch is a lot more powerful than ps3 so I doubt that

[AcidDvl]

No it's not LOL

[yeahokwhatever]

I think if you took the optimal numbers when the thing is plugged in (700mhz instead of the 300 when its unplugged), then maybe similar things can be achieved with both systems. The PS3 can pump out around 400 gflops on the GPU, and another 230 on the CPU. The shield K1(what the switch actually is until Nintendo says otherwise) pumps out around 330 @ 800mhz. The shield doesnt run @ 800mhz. It runs around 700 plugged in, and 300 unplugged. The Shiel...I mean switch isnt a powerhouse for a plugged in machine. It is pretty high-endy for a phone though. So thats nice.

[ABizzel1]

@EddieNX

The chip the Switch uses is about 2x more powerful than the PS3 when it comes to "graphics processing" and easily the amount of RAM. Meanwhile the PS3 had a significant CPU advantage which was a huge advantage back then.

The problem is, that chip is so underclocked that it's back down into the realm of PS3 performance when undocked, and barely better when docked.

[showtimefolks]

why is this news again? switch isn't as powerful as a ps4 or xbox one

nintendo simply is so out of touch with reality anymore and since wii they have been chasing the next gimmick

wii had huge amounts of casual gamers and they have all moved on to mobile gaming or other things

nintendo needs to focus on core gamers

[MRMagoo123]

yup I have a feeling they are way too focused on fluking it like the wii and not on what gamers actually want

[WickedLester]

See I knew this kind of shit would start once multiplats on the Switch started rolling out. Nintendo should have never promoted this as a home console. It's simply not powerful enough to compare to the competition. It's a slightly beefier Wii U that's portable.

[Kakashi Hatake]

Damn shame that a gen 9 console is completely outclassed by a gen 8 one.

[MRMagoo123]

I think a lot of people missed this fact , this switch technically will be competing with ps5 not ps4 and it's not even close to keeping up with ps4.

edit: @stalkeryam

I don't care about any of that I have 3 pcs at home for gaming

edit : @bg116 I'm talking about generational hardware it's gen 9 for Nintendo and 8 for ps4

[StormLegend]

With the PS5? it's already behind the PS4, so just imagine the PS5 lol.

[Kaneki-Ken]

More shameful that is being compare to handheld that is is almost have the power of a PS3, a PS3. Switch will be a joke, if they get underpower port of third-party games and not get all third-party games since Switch is under power.

[Lbrize]

I don't see it. What I see is a pic taken at different times. The Switch pic is just before the portal is activated, prior to the fancy particle lighting. There are plenty of Switch videos with graphics superior to these shots. Don't be bandwagon "da swich es sux" sheep. Use your brains.

[MRMagoo123]

plenty huh ? where are they ?

edit:"obviously, not in your pants" why would videos of Zelda be in my pants in the first place bg116? you make no sense. welcome to ignore.

[_-EDMIX-_]

But hey, some of you guys were literally saying Red Dead Redemption 2 could possibly be on the switch?

The deep, sincere lolz.

[Moonman]

Doesn't look bad, PS4 is far more capable than these graphics as well as Switch.

[Relientk77]

Not suprised at all lol

I have the first on PS4, its pretty good, might get the 2nd

[conanlifts]

Well the ps4 is likely 2x the power of switch when docked. Undocked the gap would be even greater, so of course any ps4 games would be downgraded. But i can't play the ps4 while taking a dump and as a parent that is my sacred space and the only time i get to myself. So it looks like i have a new games room and an long period where i obviously have an upset stomach.....

[MRMagoo123]

I'm pretty sure you can play ps4 via vita on the toilet

edit : @ yam

I have no idea I play on pc I don't have a vita

[conanlifts]

I never liked my vita though. Gravity rush and uncharted were the only games i really enjoyed. Also i find remote play hit and miss with occasional lag from the ps4. But yes if i still owned one it would probably be good for this.

[ShadowWolf712]

You can snag a Vita for just a bit over $100 new, depending on where you look, sometimes less if you're willing to buy used.

[Gamist2dot0]

Nintendo fans only care about gameplay anyway. Graphics are secondary.

[bf000777966]

you mean 12switch?

[Destiny1080]

there not even adding AA to there games, when the hype for Zelda and Mario is long gone, what then

its going to end up competing with scorpio and ps5

[Elda]

Of course the Switch doesn't have the power the PS4/PS4 Pro has.

[RGB]

Nobody should be surprised;
Mario Kart 8 looks like Mario Kart 8.
Splatoon 2 looks like the original.
Zelda slight improvements.

Nothing Nintendo has shown (or anyone else for that matter) indicates this system is near PS4/Xbox One, it's above WiiU and that's about it.

[eagle21]

Seasons Of Heaven! So you think Mario Kart 9 will look like 8? Odyssey will look like 3D World? Odyssey can't be done on Wiu U.

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Mario Kart 9 shouldn't come out till next Nintendo system. They only release 1 per generation, but considering Switch is needing old games to pad out releases for the system, it will probably get another.

I highly doubt Mario Kart 9 will look much better than 8 Deluxe or 8 on WiiU. Not a big difference, very small compared to cross-gen games on PS3/PS4 and 360/One.

3D World was literally a 3DS game, they took the 3D Land and move it up. Obviously Odyssey looks better (not in the photorealistic maps though), although, judging Zelda, maybe it could be done on WiiU at a lower resolution.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Odyssey couldn't be done on Wii U lol

[Moonman]

Odyssey is 1080p 60fps. Mario Kart will have a new Switch 9th game. You know better than what you're saying.

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@Moonman - Again, Zelda doesn't look much better than the WiiU. The power difference isn't massive. Mario Odyssey isn't 1080p/60fps, it's 720p as it stands and is nowhere near 60fps with the current gameplay shown. Splatoon 2 is also 720p docked!

If Nintendo make Mario Kart 9 for Switch, that'll be the 1st time they've released 2 in the same generation. What's next, Smash for Switch port then Smash 5?

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@Dark_Knightmare 2 - If Zelda can be done on both and Switch version isn't much better, Odyssey would be no different!

[jholden3249]

Well ya, just like Switch games are downgraded to Wii U.

Cancelled my PS4 preorder and locked it in for Switch, which contains BOTH Dragon Quest Heroes games for the same price as the sequel on PS4. And you can play it on the go.

[Cybermario]

real question is, is anyone surprised by this? lesser hardware, lesser graphics.

[mogwaii]

Of course it is, most games will be with this fischer price toy

[ILostMyMind]

Don't worry, earle adopters. At the end of 2019 Sony will be launching PS5, Microsoft will be launching Scorpio 3 and Nintendo will be launching FriUwii with a revolutionary Frisbee joystick with facial recognition, holographic projection and voice chat. You will be able to yell at your friends while the Frisbee is spinning in the air and glowing.

[MRMagoo123]

😲 don't give Nintendo more stupid ideas ffs !

[JackieDrunken]

Why is this news?? Lol

[Kyizen]

The Switch is a powerful handheld that can dock and play on your TV. Nintendo is pushing as a console which is stupid cause it is inferior to what is out now

[JayPi3]

I don't want to cause an argument, but this is inaccurate, the top photo shoes the portal being activated, the bottom one shoes it after it's been activated so there's no lighting or sparks.

I think it's a shame so many people have made up their mind to bash the Switch based on 2 screenshots. Also have we gotten any word on the official specs of the Switch?

[Lbrize]

JayPi, I mentioned the same thing and got bashed. Unbelievable how people HAVE to have something bad to say.

[Darkfist_Flames]

This isnt surprising, compare to zelda(who the fanboys keep praising the detailed graphics now xD), this one actually has detailed graphics with thousands of detailed enemies add that with all those flashy moves you give those enemies.

[vergilxx3]

So it's a ps vita port , so what ? it costed them less money to port it from ARM to ARM architecture

[StormLegend]

Not surprised

[DJ]

Duh-uh-uh?

[boing1]

They switched up the graphics. What a switch!

[CodeNameTBW2]

ah the switch is dead in the water at this ponit

[Mrveryodd]

oh Nintendo. ..... 3 fn years and right out the gate a console over 3+ years older kicks your ass . idiots

[MasterCornholio]

It was never rumored to be on par with the PS4. So I'm not surprised. However it's nice that the Switch is capable of running PS4 like console games.

[MRMagoo123]

well the rumours where it was gonna be between the ps4 and xbone power wise for a while.......or am I remembering wrong.

@horseygamer below

I grew up playing games in the 80s on an Amstrad cpc 464 with games on cassette tape, the limitations back then made you compromise between looks and gameplay ( although gameplay was actually difficulty so they made games really hard to add to longevity) , now it's not a problem you can make good looking and fun games Nintendo have no excuse.

[Horseygamer]

GFX is nice but the story is more important!!! There far to much obsession with gfx and not game play witch is in my opinion is far more important!!!! but im old school back in the days when they had to make up for bad GFX with great game play!!!!!!!

[lunatic0001]

here we go...let the crying and the "my console is powerful and yours isn't" argument commence...if it plays great, is fun, and you can take it with you...its all good

[CrimsonWing69]

Yes this is what happens when you have one game running on a more powerful console than the other. Honestly did anyone really think the games would look the same on the Switch as they do on PS4? I bet the same people thought games on the Wii would look the same on the PS3... im still baffled people were arguing that this would be more powerful than the Xbox one when it was stated it was going to be running on a Tegra X1 customized chip set.

[Neonridr]

makes sense.. PS4 is more powerful after all.

[WickedLester]

I feel as more time goes by, Nintendo is going to regret the decision to market this thing first and foremost as a home console. I think they would be much better off marketing the Switch as a powerful successor to the 3DS, putting all the focus on the mobility of the machine and downplay the home-docking functionality as just an added bonus. Otherwise, every single time Digital Foundry posts a video comparison of any multi-console title, the Switch version is going to get embarrassed. Perception is a powerful thing and if Nintendo continues to insist that the Switch is a home console, it's just going to be looked at by gamers as an overpriced, underpowered machine.

[SynestheticRoar]

I'm not switching to shit. Damn vita looks better.

[trueganesh]

OMG what a surprise! The Switch's version of the game is worse than that of a console which is significantly more powerful than it! Who would have thought? Seriously? Why are there even articles like this about, no one will be buying the Switch for it's power related capabilities. I personally am buying the Switch for the Nintendo games and local multiplayer aspect of it. I have a PS4 and am more than happy to play third party games on that. Stop bashing the Switch for things it obviously can't do; accept it for what it is.

[Livecustoms]

Will 3ds devs be making games for the switch now ? Because if games like Pokemon come to switch im getting it.

[ChickeyCantor]

If you look at Super mario or even zelda for that matter you see they are far more visually impressive. I can only imagine they just used vita settings for this.

[Sm3000]

Here's the thing that I believe should be considered - it can be played on the go. Yes it's obvious but surely that must carry some type of weight.
I'm not a nintendo fanboy, just trying to be rational.
But yeah it's not fun seeing this

[SojournUK]

Well one is running on a ps4 the other is running on a modified mobile (cell) phone.

[gedden7]

This proves that the Switch can run PS4 games AT a lower power module. Like the top comment stated, it would be News if the Switch can run ps4 games at the same level.

[svoulis]

Does anyone else see what I see when I see the sWIItch version?

http://www.inwap.com/mf/reb...

[OCEANGROWNKUSH]

Ok, and those little sparkles enhance the gameplay in what way? Theres is NOTHING on the ps4/xb1 that couldnt be fundamentally be done on last gen console, we are playing the SAME games just prettier.

Gameplay > Graphics

[porkChop]

Why is this even news? It's a very powerful handheld, but obviously as a home console it's less powerful than the competition. The Xbox One sees visual downgrades or lower resolution with many games, so why would the Switch be any different? The draw of the Switch is not high end graphics, it's full console games that you can play anywhere you want. And from what we've seen of the Switch so far, it's pretty damn capable in the graphics department aside from missing anti aliasing.

[WheatBread]

who cares?

[Brash]

Tell ya what. It has the kind of portability I can take to my friend's house and be like, "Let's play Mario Kart!" Not something I'd happily carry on the bus ride to school. Know what I mien?

[datriax]

This is expected on hardware that belongs somewhere in 2010. What did people think? They were getting a PS4 in a handheld? LOL

[WickedLester]

I roughly expected Xbox One levels. X1 launched over 3 years ago and was already considered outdated tech then. Considering how rapidly tech moves I really didnt think it was that farfetched to expect similar performance levels in a tablet casing in 2017.

[carmelo43]

have fun with your switch nintendo guys lol