Nintendo's Switch Already Stinks of a Rushed Console

The console and, more importantly, developers don't seem ready.

[ninsigma]

I wouldn't say rushed but it does seem like some aspects weren't thought through properly.

[sinjonezp]

It just "stinks" of gimmick. That's my position. In the press release they are selling the system as one that can perform like all the ideas they have into one box. It has Wii and wiiU aspects while being mobile like the 3DS. To me with all of that the message is still confusing. Reggie is saying it's a home console first. Of course selling the new Zelda which I think is amazing ..and Well...okay, then we have games like arms and 1-2 Switch with are like Wii titles. It's like, do I want a mobile device that's larger than my phone to take on the go, or play at home? When I see these videos do you think a bunch of the fellas will stop playing basketball in a park to all grab joy cons (which are super expensive) to play 4 player locally at the park?(example based on commercial) It's just so many different objectives they are trying to sell. I LOVE NINTENDO AND GREW UP ON IT and ....i just wanted a new powerful home console and that's it. Just make a console that devs could cross develop for and creat awe inspiring first party titles. It could have been so simple.

[Gaming4Life1981]

Thats the thing though nintendo innovates and i agree sometimes its not what we want but in an industry where sony and ms dont and focus on power alone, i think nintendo should be complimented in that regard.

Now i do think and agree with the message that nintendo is sending is confusing and makes no sense to me. I mean the switch is both a portable console but they said that the 3ds will not conflict this and i just dont see how. The 3ds is 200 plus and the switch is 300 but it has console and portable functionality so the extra 100 seems worth it over a 3ds. The console was definitely rushed to the market and it shows with the launch and ports, 3rd party is still not there and wont be cause of the power issue. Nintendo has made a under powered next gen console but one with great features and functionality but the problem will be as always software support and power.

I am getting a switch but i think it will fail, cause there will be no 3rd party support as usual.

@prince ali

If I annoy you then don't respond to me, keep it simple. I am not a die hard Nintendo fan and I haven't been since snes so I don't let Nintendo get away with anything. I Am not giving a pass on anything .

[DARKKENT]

Id say it stinks of a company so out of touch with gamers that its only defenders will be their hardcore audience ...and that audience couldnt save the wii u so.....

[objdadon]

@Gaming4Life1981
Do you really think Nintendo innovatives but sony and Microsoft doesn't??? Imagine console gaming with only Nintendo. You'd certainly appreciate where sony and Microsoft brought gaming today then.

[lellkay]

@Gaming4Life1981

"Thats the thing though nintendo innovates and i agree sometimes its not what we want but in an industry where sony and ms dont and focus on power alone, i think nintendo should be complimented in that regard."

Microsoft had online features in 2001 that the Switch doesn't have in 2017. Sony and Microsoft DO innovate. But they innovate with console features and online functionality, stuff that doesn't change gameplay control methods as much per say, but makes stuff more user friendly and adds more and more features to the console eco system over time. Nintendo are so out of touch that what they are offering with their online in 2017, can't even achieve stuff that Xbox OG was doing 15 years ago.... Yes such "innovation" from Nintendo.

Nintendo try and innovate by chucking stupid expensive controller gimmicks at the wall and hoping they stick. And because of that, have to gimp everything else about their system. Leaving them far behind the competition in every way that matters to the modern gamer.

[Nintendo-or-Nothing]

Is a mobile phone a gimmick? How about a music player that holds thousands of songs that you can take anywhere? So what makes a mobile console any diffrent?

[IamTylerDurden1]

They rushed the release in order to end the Wii u's tenure early. Games like Mario, Splatoon 2, and Xenoblade should've been launch titles. As it stands now it's Zelda and a couple old Ubisoft ports.

[jaymacx]

Yeah but by the Summer Switch will have a better library ... Sometimes we need to think about why it didn't launch with tons of games. Most early preorders will sell out on Zelda alone.. then MK8, Arms, Splatoon 2 carry that momentum. Come holiday time Switch will have a decent library with at least 2 GOTY contenders. Plus we still have E3 come summer to see announcements for some things we don't know as of today. Its easy to play armchair quarterback and say well this will happen or that but the truth is we don't know.

[jaymacx]

If i like Arms thats my thing . No one said you have to like it. I will continue to put it on my list because it's something im looking forward to. People have different tastes.

[PhoenixUp]

How long has NS been in development? Did account for Wii U not meeting expectations during Switch's creation, resulting in it coming out sooner than expected?

It's clear that they're sticking to the March launch month just so they can look good in front of the investors and stockholders after Wii U had a disappointing 2016 holiday season.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

since 2013.

[sinjonezp]

I don't think it was wise to release early in the year. Two months n a week after Christmas (beginning of march). They will have to bring it with fresh titles to stay relevant. It should have been more powerful. Bottom line it's 2017. Zelda looks amazing for what it is but looking at multiplats and other first party offerings it doesn't look much different from the wiiU warranting the question is it worth it? Maybe to Nintendo fans who did not buy the wiiU but wiiU owners? Not so much.

[sk8ofmnd]

I think we first started hearing about the nx with rumors around fall 2014. Only 2 years after the wiiu launched. To be the next big hit from nintendo and only sell like 6 million in the first two years was a huge disappointment. At that point, nintendo knew it was not going to be the hit the wii was before. I wonder if sales suck on the switch if it will follow the same fate and be what regie called a "neccesary failure." im sure to fans like myself i would have never invested in a wiiu if i knew that.

[DigitalRaptor]

I think the concept of the Switch is what they actually wanted out of the Wii U, which was rushed out rather than the upcoming one. Their development resources were diverted into making Wii U games while the R&D team carried on with making the Switch into what it now is. But it now doesn't have enough games at launch because Nintendo first-party were focused on Wii U development rather than Switch. That's my theory, anyway.

[DJ]

That's probably true.

[jaymacx]

Interesting. Well the new president never liked the wii u as a final product so their may be some truth to what your saying. Truth is they have some great games lined up so far for this year that really blows Wii U (their launch year) out of the water . Wii u had nothing great until pikmin 3.. this system is starting with Zelda and getting a full 3d Mario that brings back that Mario 64 feel.

[Slowbro]

it seems its more or less of a wii u mid console re-release with light updates

[Aenea]

But with totally new hardware...

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WTF is it lately with n4g disagrees when you state facts!?

The hardware is different and not compatible with the Wii U so to call it a mid-gen re-release is silly!

[deafdani]

People are in full Switch-hating mode right now around here.

Anything you try to say in defense of the system, no matter how logical it is, will get rained down with disagrees.

[deafdani]

...except this isn't a Wii U at all.

[shockwave4life]

Nooooooo SHIT!!!!

[Aenea]

It's not rushed, it rather looks well developed hardware wise. Tho they might have needed more time on the system software front, I really do not like the idea of needing a phone for voice chat and inviting people to a game. Yes, yes, everyone has one yadayada, still, with the Switch I need to have my phone charged, the Switch charged and the controllers charged before I can play some MP online! That will get some getting used to....

[sk8ofmnd]

The dock should have been a home console portion of the setup instead of an overglorified charger/tv out. If they went that route i would have easilly paid 400 for a bluray disced switch home console. Oh well thats prob what the super switch will be... Following in nintendos 1 gen behind repertoire.

[jaymacx]

Rumor is they are making a upgrade dock that beefs up the console in docked mode . I saw that on neogaf

Sorry for the funny typo i didnt mean that ..changed to docked lol

[Aenea]

They could've done with a beefier dock with actual hardware inside that still accepts ROM carts like now with a normal (the pro) controller included and a bigger storage space and have the portable device be an add-on for people who want to use it on the go.

They could've asked 300 to 350 for it if it would've performed just as well or better than a PS4/X1. Sell the Joycons as an addon if you want the party/motion games, sell the handheld with same hardware as now for 250, etc., etc.

[sk8ofmnd]

How in the fuck did they not have mario ready for launch but still managed zelda? Oh thats right zelda has been complete since holiday 2015.

[JayPi3]

I don't think it was rushed, I think it just needs time to get it's feet on the ground, I mean the system hasn't even been released and we're seeing 20+ articles a day saying bad things about it before anyone in the general public has even had a chance to get some time with it.

The biggest game is a Wii U port, and the games made from the ground up for it aren't out till later on in the Spring to Winter, I think this device needs time to have actually people work with it before we call it a failure or a rushed product, cause you can see a lot of thought went into the hardware, but it's the software that we've yet to see.

All in All I wish Nintendo were more transparent, and hopefully they market this as a handheld and eventually drop the price.

[ApocalypseShadow]

Gamers are no longer patient and willing to wait how things play out or allow Nintendo to do corrections based on the market. They'd rather be negative and complain and complain with negative opinion articles that aren't even news. Now it's "negativity for gamers(N4G)."

Games have gotten negativity before launch, consoles like PS4 Pro have received it and new platforms like PSVR have. There's corrective criticism and then there's bandwagon negativity just for website clicks and ad revenue. I like PS4, but man gamers are being harsh.

[jaymacx]

This isn't a "gamer" problem its people period in this generation of entitlement and instant gratification. Patience is a rare commodity these days.. Other console launches may of had more games but way less quality. Every now and then we get a masterpiece at launch. Mario 64, soul calibur (dreamcast), halo (xbox)

[freshslicepizza]

@Apocalypse Shadow
"Gamers are no longer patient and willing to wait how things play out or allow Nintendo to do corrections based on the market. They'd rather be negative and complain and complain with negative opinion articles that aren't even news. Now it's "negativity for gamers(N4G)."

corrections based on what? they still have a paltry line-up of third party games, they are still underpowering its system (and higher priced than their competitors) in order to push something else and in this case to be portable, and they have now announced a pay for online model when their history stinks in this area. of course people are going to be reactive and pessimistic. are you positive or optimistic about scorpio even though that hasn't even had it's full details explained? no, so stop being a hypocrite.

"Games have gotten negativity before launch, consoles like PS4 Pro have received it and new platforms like PSVR have. There's corrective criticism and then there's bandwagon negativity just for website clicks and ad revenue. I like PS4, but man gamers are being hars"

and you have proven time and again to give no mercy towards microsoft and all optimism for the other two even though the wii u fell flat in comparison, how ironic.

[FreeSpeech69]

Of course it's rushed. It's weak, overpriced and has horrible policies. Nintendo fans will buy 2 of them!

[ARESWARLORD]

I can't get over the fact they're launching it and it's weaker than the PS4 and Xbox One

[DJ]

It's also ripe for shovelware since there's no games coming out for like a year.

[Gman32]

I agree that the nintendo switch is rushed because of the failed wiiu because the nintendo switch should've launch later this year

[Wotbot]

I love it, we just need the software and it looks more than capable of making great looking games.

[FallenAngel1984]

It's obvious that NS was clearly meant for a holiday 2017 release. However Wii U underperformed and they had to push up the Switch's release so they don't appear bad during the fiscal in the eyes of investors and shareholders after a horrible holiday 2016 for Wii U.

[basilboxer]

This site has written about 15 Switch features. Stop it now. Find traffic elsewhere.