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Forza Horizon 3 PC/Xbox One Comparison Doesn't Show Much Difference, HDR Reportedly Looks Fantastic

This video comparison of Forza Horizon 3 doesn't show much difference between PC & XB1, while the HDR reportedly gives the edge to Xbox One S over the PC version.

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Imp0ssibl32771d ago

PC Master Race Nazis will be pissed! On a serious note, it is strange how the PC is behind in technology advancements for once with HDR

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Lon3wolf2771d ago

HDR has been on PC for ages, it's the monitors that have been behind.

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AuraAbjure2770d ago

Yeah, PC graphics cards need to be less than 2 years old to have an hdmi 2.0 output which is necessary for HDR.

LAWSON722770d ago

People want HDR more than 60 fps lmao

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PlayableGamez-2770d ago

@timotim
I thought console gamers can't afford high end gaming?

So you are telling me they went out and bought a 1500 dollar TV?

Kingthrash3602770d ago

In no way is hdr more wanted than 60fps.
I just bought a hdr tv (sony x930) and I love how some of the games look I'm hdr.(batman AK looks insane) But I'd still take 60fps over hdr any day.

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Princess_Pilfer2770d ago

No, they aren't. If devs aren't implementing HDR into their games on PC, it's the devs to talk to. My PC and my display both support it, nothing is stopping them.

Similarly, PC is perfectly capable of running circles around any console in terms of graphical abilities, especially with new APIs minimizing overhead so devs can get the most power out of the hardware (albiet with more skill being necessary to do so) so if a game looks about the same on a console with less than half the power then either you're being mislead somehow or the devs aren't doing their job properly.

It's also worth noting, racing games are almost always really good looking on everything because they have to render very little. 1 map or map segment in some games (Like The Witcher) has to load and render more detail at once than several Gran Turismo maps put together, and because you'll be blowing by it at 90+ mph they can make massive detail cuts everywhere that isn't immidately adjacent to the track, there is 0 chance of you going to look and see that the tree texture is a 360x360 vaguely bark like splotch because you're too far away and/or going too fast to see it.

And no, I'm not pissed because I'm a PC master race nazi, I own 9 consoles, I'm pissed because my computer is significanly more powerful than the consoles and supports HDR and yet they decided not to support it for no apparent reason.

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Ashlen2770d ago (Edited 2770d ago )

HDR is just a label, I have been using 10-bit monitors for almost 15 years

Edited to add since N4G is technologically challenged:

10-bit is 1.07 billion colors it's what professional monitors have. TV's and most monitors are 8-Bit 16.8 million.

HDR is 10-bit. TV's are finally catching up to what monitors have been offering for years, but they needed a catchy name aka "HDR" because saying 10-bit is too technical for people.

http://hdguru.com/whats-a-1...

babadivad2770d ago

10 bit?? I've been gaming over 16 bit since the '90s brah.

Ashlen2770d ago (Edited 2770d ago )

@babadivad

oh your so very funny

Koopdogg2770d ago

Do you honestly think ,PC players give two hoots what the console version is doing...NO!!!
All they care about is that their version runs as it should getting the maximum enjoyment for it!!

XanderZane2770d ago

There are minor difference. Some was in the shadows and a some on the textures. Not that easy to see unless you look really close. Not a big deal. Will still be playing this on my XB1 anyways.

Dasteru2770d ago (Edited 2770d ago )

How is the PC behind when the Geforce 10 series has been available for a while now and has full HDR support? The only real disadvantage on the PC side is the cost of the few HDR monitors that are available. You can still connect to a TV instead though.

As for the video, there are noticable differences. The textures and normal maps both had more detail on the PC version, and there was less aliasing. It wasn't a huge difference but it was a difference. FH3 isn't exactly doing much to take advantage of PC hardware anyway. Neither version looks all that great.

2600Thunder2769d ago (Edited 2769d ago )

Why would you stereotype all 100mil+ PC gamers like that when we get to enjoy the same game like you? What's with all the high school mean girl snobbery between us gamers?

The real analysts like DF enjoy the PC version, so I'm happy. https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Hopefully you are enjoying your version! I can't wait to try this out! Like I've previously said, I despise MS's business practices, but I definitely give their devs credit (and my money) where it's due and very much enjoy some games MS Studios puts out. If it's good I will buy it - as long as there aren't 5 different terminator-platinum-plated-nut -sack editions and the full game isn't price gouged at a 200-300% markup like EA games, which means I will wait for a sale.

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odderz2771d ago

Be interesting to see detailed comparisons between the two, waiting for Digital Foundry's take

Aurenar2771d ago

The frame rate is obviously better on PC, with the right hardware. That's the biggest difference in favor of PC.

Aenea2770d ago

And higher resolution than 1080p...

XanderZane2770d ago

@Aenea
I think the game is upscaled to 4K on the XB1 Slim.

DARK_WOLF2770d ago

Indeed. The xb1s 4k upscaler is superb

_LarZen_2770d ago

The XBOS can upscale to a 4K TV. But it's recommended to use the upscaler that is in the TV instead as the one in the XBOS is not that good. And it's worth mentioning that the upscale function used is the most basic there is. It's nothing like on the PS4Pro.

XanderZane2770d ago (Edited 2769d ago )

@_LarZen_
This article has nothing to do with the PS4 Pro. This comparison is for FH3 on the XB1 S and PC. When Forza Horizon 3 & 4 hits the Scorpio, they will be native 4K with full HDR10 support, I'm sure. The upscaler on the XB1 S is actually pretty good. This comparison proves that.

LMAO @ bruce755 . You mad.

DARK_WOLF2770d ago (Edited 2770d ago )

Larzen that is a flat out LIE.

Get outa here with ur BS!

I know for a fact! And there are multiple articles saying how good the xb1s upscaler actually is. Its way better than any tv upscaler by far!

The fact u mentioned ps4pro thats not even out yet is laughable. I can smell ur agenda a mile away

fathertime44642770d ago

@ Larsen.
Get a life! The one s has a way better upscaler than a tv! Seriously dude do you even a one s? Answer no. Do you have a 4k tv? Answer no (don't need to know ya to know that's the truth). But hey I do, and guess what?! The one s way better, by miles

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TheOptimist2771d ago

Wow..... Really, I am a PC gamer and there are very little differences. Let's see when HDR is implemented on the PC. Damn... This looks like the best racing game ever, probably better than NFS most wanted. i wish they would add a cop mode to it, then it'll definitely surpass MW 2007. First MS game on my to-buy list.

Aurenar2771d ago

Not sure about best racing game ever, but it's very fun to play. Of course, simulation fans won't find much to like here.

TheOptimist2771d ago

It's not always about realism, that is what simulators are for. For me fun is what matters. If a game is life like and you can't play the game because of the game being too realistic, there is no fun to be had. I want fun and innovation, that's it.

aconnellan2770d ago

Of course they won't, because it's not supposed to be a simulation, that's what the Forza Motorsport series caters to. Horizon is for the arcade crowd.

That's like commenting on The Witcher 3 reviews and saying "yeah it looks great and it's reviewing well, but I'm not sure about 'best RPG ever'. Of course, FPS fans won't find much to like here"

Unspoken2770d ago

Realism is saved for Motorsport.

kevnb2770d ago

youtube video
I find it kind of looks poor in places on both versions though.

TheOptimist2770d ago

Well graphics are not all for a game. The game looks fun to play as well.

Maxor2770d ago

60 FPS is not a little difference. It's huge. It's a difference that not only impact the visual but the gameplay as well. There's no way in hell I'm playing a racing game at 30 FPS. Not having 60 fps is a deal breaker.

TheOptimist2770d ago

Yup, that's so true. i don't care if any game looks like an 8-Bit mess, as long as it runs at 60 fps.

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Forza Horizon Games Ranked from Worst to Best

BLG writes: "When the Forza Horizon games franchise launched in 2012, it was an enjoyable spin-off of the highly successful simulation racer. A decade later, the Horizon series has overtaken Forza Motorsport series as one of, if not the, premiere driving video games of all time."

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SinisterMister661d ago

Don't think there's literally a "worst" Forza game man. Microsoft just makes these too damn good.

MaximusPrime_661d ago

Microsoft didn't develop (make) Forza, Playground Games did.

Microsoft simply published it.

SinisterMister661d ago

Ah okay. Thanks for the correction mate!

MadLad660d ago

I see no difference being they've only ever made games for Microsoft on Microsoft's dime for the entirety of their existence as a developer.

Godmars290660d ago

@MadLad:
The amount of MTs and repeated attempts at rivalry towards Gran Turismo.

darthv72660d ago

@god, i think you are confusing motorsport with horizon. MS is compared to GT, Horizon isnt.

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MadLad660d ago

@godmars

Care to explain how that has anything to do with anything here?

DOMination-660d ago

lol.. pedantic much? ^ PG and the Forza IP are owned by Microsoft.

FH5 may be a technical marvel but it's been a buggy mess since launch and PG seem intent to add new content without ever bothering to fix anything. Many of which were bugs that were also in FH4.

FH3
FH1
FH4
FH5
FH2 (still good but the structure was messed up - too much emphasis on grinding "roadtrips" which was tedious)

jznrpg660d ago (Edited 660d ago )

They didn’t buy Playground until 2018 or 2019 I forget which year but it hasn’t been that long . The first Forza came out in 2005 . So most of the games were published by MS at the time but they didn’t own PlayGround. MS doesn’t make good studios in general , they buy them .

DOMination-660d ago

When Sony buys a studio after working with them for a couple of games, people on here call it an "organic purchase". MS & Playground made three very good games, based on an existing IP using an engine made by Turn 10 before purchasing them. But it is still pedantic. Shall we say that Sony didn't make The Last of Us? Or that they don't "own" the first 12 Ratchet & Clank games because they only purchase Insomniac a few years back? We all know what they meant.

Anyway, Forza Motorsport has always been developed by Turn 10. Which Microsoft built from the ground up. So when you refer to games from 2005, your point about only buying studios is completely wrong.

darthv72660d ago

You left out a FH2, there were two versions. The one made for XBO by playground and the one made for 360 by sumo digital. There are enough differences to warrant each one being on its own.

monkey602660d ago

FH3 is my favourite by a long shot. I got surprisingly bored of FH5 quick enough unfortunately so that's down the bottom of my list

sammarshall102660d ago

Yeah I think this series peaked with Forza Horizon 3

Orbilator660d ago

I really dont care for any of the horizons. Hate having to do what I'm told. Forza 7 was the same, I didn't want to do anything other than race cars. But it made me drive lorries!!!..

Technically they all good games but I want the next Forza to be a proper car racer, all the trucks etc can be put under an arcade racing section which I never have to go into.

MrBaskerville660d ago

The mandatory gimmick races are a bit of a bad habit in FM games, atleast since 5. Also dislike the heavy amount of unskipable cutscenes and dialouge in FM5 and perhaps 7.

Azraeia660d ago

Tbh I found FH3 to actually be my favourite and the one I played the most.

The one I got bored of very quickly was 4. Wasn't a fan of the seasons and driving round England was boring cause its where I live. Got very old quick.

glennhkboy660d ago

I still think 2 (Xbox One version) is my personal best. Driving an Italian supercars on an Italian highway just feel so "right"!!!!! "2" make me understand why Italian make those supercars.

I don't know why so many do not like 4. I like the seasonal change & dramatic weather change. 5 seems to dial the weather change way way down that the weather seldom change (Is the real Mexico really has such a perfect weather all the time?).

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How the Sophisticated Sky Capturing Brings the Forza Horizon Franchise to Life

KeenGamer: "The advanced sky capturing gives the Forza Horizon franchise a natural and realistic feeling. Yet, it's a long process from capturing to complete in-game sky. It's a technology that was introduced during the development of Forza Horizon 3, which provided more beauty and were widely praised by players."

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iplay1up21019d ago (Edited 1019d ago )

Forza 4 looks really great now that Series updates have been applied. In Forza 5 Microsoft uses photo technology throughout the entire game. The volcano setting in Mexico looks amazing!

Lightning771019d ago

All this sky tech will no doubt make its way into the new Fable.

Rimeskeem1019d ago

Da Cloud jokes coming in 3...2....

Sol4ris1018d ago

Incredible looking game, and it's not even powered by the next iteration of the ForzaTech engine which is still developed by Turn10.
Time to flex that 12TF.

VariantAEC1012d ago

Maybe that's why it looks so meh to me.

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Forza Horizon 3 Is Officially Being Delisted

The Playground Games team announced earlier today on Twitter and the Forza forums that 2016’s Forza Horizon 3 will be racing off into the sunset on September 27th, 2020. As they’ve done with previous installments in the series, Forza Horizon 3 will be on sale until it reaches “end of life” status on the 27th at which time the game and all of its DLC will be removed from digital stores.

TheEnigma3131350d ago

This is why I buy physical when I can. I remember losing MvC2 on PS3 because Disney bought the license and I couldn't download it anymore.

porkChop1350d ago

You can still download these games. You just can't buy them anymore.

CobraKai1350d ago

That’s one of the issues about digital games. Those who never got to buy these games will be out of luck unless a physical copy exists.

porkChop1350d ago

I agree. The problem is the music companies are greedy and want game publishers to sign new contracts. It should be that music licenses for a game last forever for that specific game. That would prevent most games from being delisted.

darthv721350d ago

I buy physical as well but keep in mind its not just the game that is effected but also the dlc. And this is nothing new for this series. Each previous iteration has been delisted about 4 years after release. So each year is another one to remove. This year it is FH3, last was FM6, the one prior was FH2 and before that it was FM5. Next year will be FM7 and the year after will be FH4.

dumahim1350d ago

I think they'll keep FM7 and FH4 up longer since we might not get another Forza game until 2022.

KRUSSIDULL1350d ago

You can still download owned digital stuff you just can't buy them because license deals.

Skuletor1350d ago

I can download the Marvel vs Capcom: Origins demo on PS3 since I downloaded it before the delisting but can't upgrade to the full version.

Razmiran1350d ago

I bought the full version and can still access it, maybe you should talk to customer support?

Skuletor1350d ago

No, I mean I only downloaded the demo before the delisting so I can still download the demo only, I can't pay to upgrade to the full version

tombfan1350d ago

Also, there's Horizon 4, when was the last time you played the 3rd one?

Teflon021350d ago

Yet I can download it right now. Maybe look in your download list. Sucks looking on ps3. But it's there 100%, just like TMNT reshelled was there still for me for the period it was delisted and Scott Pilgrim is still there for me

itsmebryan1350d ago

What are you talking about if you have the day you still have it . It's just not available from the digital store. Smh

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TeamIcoFan1350d ago

All digital is the future everyone.
Get used to never truly owning your games ever again.

MadLad1350d ago

You still have access if you purchased the game. So, no, that statement isn't correct. If it is something you purchased, you own it. Not saying it CAN'T happen, but I've only seen it happen in the mobile phone market, where you cant access content you previously purchased, personally.

JonTheGod1350d ago

I own P.T. It might not have cost anything but I added it to my basket, went through the checkout, purchased a £0.00 costing game.

They removed that from the store and I can no longer download it.

MadLad1350d ago (Edited 1350d ago )

@Jon

And? Do you know how many promotional demos have been lost to time? There's a giant difference between losing access to promotional material, of which you did not pay for, and losing access to a game you purchased outright.

Name a game that you purchased outright on a known storefront, of which you were restricted from accessing after the fact. Outside of online only games whose servers were taken down. Mainly a console thing, considering there are normally workarounds on PC.

MadLad1350d ago (Edited 1350d ago )

@Jon

And? Do you know how many promotional demos have been lost to time? There's a giant difference between losing access to promotional material, of which you did not pay for, and losing access to a game you purchased outright.

Name a game that you purchased outright on a known storefront, of which you were restricted from accessing after the fact. Outside of online only games whose servers were taken down. Mainly a console thing, considering there are normally workarounds on PC.

abstractel1350d ago

Problem is it's only a matter of time before you can't download purchased games. Backing up to a harddrive is players best bet to keep all their content. Hopefully this will be possible on the PS5/XBXS

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dumahim1350d ago

It has happened with music more often than you'd think. I think there's been a movie service or two that has shut down as well. So sure, while they're still up and running, you can still download your purchases, but if they close up shop, then it's gone.

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waderae1350d ago

You used to at least own a "licence" to play the game

With Sub services, Gamepass/PS now etc... you dont even have a licence for the game anymore.

KwietStorm_BLM1350d ago

Looks at all my digital music and movies stored on my disks and NAS. I wish I owned all this stuff that I own.

gamer78041350d ago

I used to have a big problem with digital, but as I got older I realized everything is just on loan to me anyways so now I buy physical if it’s something I really want too hold on to but 90% of the time it’s Digital for me.

bouzebbal1350d ago

Or your money.. They want to do the same with cash

Terry_B1350d ago

Incorrect statement. This is just the equal situation to a game not being available as new in a store anymore.

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Terry_B1350d ago

Thankls for sharing, bought the ultimate editon for 23 euro. First time since years I bought something from that store. Sucks they never got it to Steam

ChunkyHD1350d ago

Why wouldn't they continue offering the game at a reduced rate, like old games on steam? Silly decision.

Elit3Nick1349d ago

It has to do with the car and music licenses expiring