Rise of the Tomb Raider’s PS4 Release Was “Very Important” For Crystal Dynamics; More Info Shared

During a panel at PAX West in Seattle, Rise of the Tomb Raider Franchise Creative Director Noah Huges, Senior Designer Chad Armstrong and Designer Alisha Thayer gave more information on the upcoming Rise of the Tomb Raider: 20 Year Celebration, which will finally bring the game to PS4 on October 11th.

[II__BONE__II]

It might be important for Crystal (they should have thought about that a year ago) but it's not important to me anymore.
If they think I would EVER pay full price for a game that is now a year old they are delusional.
Sorry Crystal you lost a Tomb Raider fan when you sold out.

[thelaughingwiseman]

Your dislike is misplaced. Crystal would have liked for a total release of the game. The company that owns them (Square Enix) wanted that deal from Microsoft. They always seem to be making games at a lost, so they thought they could cover some of that with a deal for this game.

[showtimefolks]

Darrell Gallagher also served as Square Enix's head of product development and western studios, responsible for overseeing all of the publisher's output developed outside of Japan

he was the one who had favored xbox brand for almost the whole decade. and when it didn't meet the sales expectations he was forced out(but to make it look nice he resigned to move on)

MS only paid $10 million or so for the one year of exclusive period

[morganfell]

Those games didn't make their bones on PlayStation.

Then to top it off they announce the PS4 version and boast stating it is the 20th anniversary. An anniversary made possible by PlayStation...whom you decided to screw with this latest bit. As I have stated previously, I have no issue with exclusives but in this case it was a slap to the face of the brand that really put TR on the map. It is why this exclusive is different than others. Everyone knows this situation was different and is why MS was attacked by more than just Sony supporters when the deal was announced. The PR worked out so poorly Phil Spencer had to address the situation. Imagine if the new Dead Rising had been announced as a 1 year PS4 exclusive.

[Nitrowolf2]

Anyone really interested in buying this should just wait a month or two. We are going to see so I'm discounted deals when we get closer to that launch and I guarantee you that the price is going to drop like a rock.

It was a huge mistake for Square Enix to make an exclusive one-year deal on this game. A series that kicked off on the PlayStation and Square Enix turn their backs on the fans people aren't going to forget about that and they will respond by not buying this game. I could understand if it's a newly non establish IP but Tomb Raider started its roots on PlayStation. Like the others have said imagine if Dead Rising was exclusive on Playstation 4 for a year. It's just a massive middle finger to the people that grew up with that franchise

I don't expect this to sell very well on PS4 at all

[Artemidorus]

You don't speak for Crystal or Square Enix. Especially when Microsoft shook hands on the day.

[UltraNova]

SE fu** up. They developed and released the game on 3 platforms already. A year has passed. Now it will get released on ps4. They will spend next to nothing for this release so its basically cashing in with every copy sold.

Then they ask full price...is that a thank you to all those PS fans who waited a whole year for the game?

SE's recent policies are a disgrace(chopping up games and serving them piece by piece, timed exclusivity deals) and they should be shown that we wont take this anymore.

TBH i dont care about the one year deal I really dont. I will play TR rise like I played all of them since the 1st one on playstation but when its dirt cheap and used as a you're welcome to SE's 60 dollar thank you.

Edit @abzdiine
Yes and no. You see Rise was a new sequel that is now a year old and dirt cheap on platforms already released.

Is it a 'new' game on ps4? Yes, but it is still a year old release.

And yes its not only SE who's shamelessly greedy as your RE4 remaster point demonstrates.

[bouzebbal]

Regardless of PS got every single TR released on one of their machines, Square Enix have no choice but to release it on the highest selling console to make profit

@UltraNova
I see your point, but i think RE4 is so much worse. It's the same remaster since PS3 and they are asking for same price for it.
TR is a new game and it looks like they still didn't make profit out of it, so the full price tag is almost understandable but as you said you can just wait a few months and pick it up cheap. RE4 is digital and it should cost 5 dollars no more

[showtimefolks]

II__BONE__II

i don't have a problem with anything but i do have 2 issues:

1. i don't like timed exclusives because they are only timed exclusive because one company paid money to keep it off the other console and it's gamers

2. rise of the tom raider is $9 on pc and $under $25 on xbox one(used under $20)

so why do ps4 owners get the game one year after xbox one,xbox360 and pc and have to pay full price? if square enix actually cared they should have made it $39.99

it's not gonna sell well on ps4 and square enix deserves every bit of lost sales

[firelogic]

The reason is pretty clear. Rise has been on XB1 for a year so it's obvious the price would drop. Rise has never been on PS4 so it's a new game. I don't understand why you expect it to debut on PS4 for $25 or even $40. It's a brand new game for a PS4 owner. Had you owned an XB1 a year ago, you would have paid $60 for it. What's the difference now?

[HAHAHAHAHAHAHA]

with that logic remasters should only come with one on the disc and be $60 as well as they were on 360 and ps3, not ps4 and xbone..... just putting it out there

[seanpitt23]

@ firelogic

Your logic is way off lol let me put it in perspective for you when a game releases on any platform on that day it's new and after that it's not and this is a year old game regardless if it's just releasing on ps4 or not it's been on the market for a year.

For eg if a new film comes out on blueray for a year and then it's comes to dvd a year later is that still a new film or is it a year old even though you can now watch it on your dvd player now

[badz149]

@firelogic

"Had you owned an XB1 a year ago, you would have paid $60 for it. What's the difference now?"

A year difference!

[AnubisG]

So let me play the devils advocate here.

The price of The Rise of The Tomb Raider you mention is for the base game without the DLC included.

The DLC on Xbox one for RoTR will cost you $29.99 if you get the season pass. Plus the game on Xbox marketplace is still $39.99. You can also buy the 20 year Celebration edition (which the PS4 owners get for $59.99) for $69.99.

Than on steam, RoTR is $59.99, I'm looking at it right now. Plus the season pass is $29.99.

So what are you talking about?

$59.99 for a game with all it's DLC improved graphics and VR support for a mission is such a horrible deal?

I dob't think so. But don't buy it man, vote with your wallet! I will be buying it. I had enough games to keep me busy for the past year and getting that package for $60 is worth it in my eyes. But to each their own.

[XanderZane]

Just get it on PC or XB1. lol!! That's what most gamers are doing.

[Elimin8]

"it's not gonna sell well on ps4 and square enix deserves every bit of lost sales"

I hope you are right. Hate to sound bitter but.............

[Igihara]

Firelogic, deactivate.

[Kryptix]

@AnubisG

All games get discounted over time so the logic of, it's good that you waited a year because you get it cheaper can be applied for anything and doesn't make sense to use in this case.

Why? Because Rise of the Tomb Raider on Xbox One has had sales. And I'm not short sighted, they can literally knock the price of the Xbox One store version to $30 a week or 2 after the PS4 version releases, making it equal to the $60 tag with the Season Pass. You can get it at Walmart for less than $30. Don't believe me?
https://www.walmart.com/ip/...

The only thing that would make the PS4 version special is the VR part, but not everyone can truly enjoy that because that means you're paying $400 extra and not everyone will have the money to get the VR headset first day.

And cause it has better graphics? Oh wow, like that's not already a given. I expect a more powerful console to have better graphics and performance with all games. And hold on, DirectX 12 is not needed to improve graphics? Whaaaat? Because it's just an API. different way to program.

Steam version being 60 dollars still? Gotta feel bad for the people that don't do the research and are falling for that price. G2A sells it for $30, no different with price comparisons.

Yea, I'm gonna be very intelligent about it and not give them a single cent so they can learn their lesson. And with all the valid points I made, I really suggest nobody else does. Don't want to see this kind of **** to another old beloved franchise.

[AsheXII]

I dont remember ps3 owners feeling all righteous about games like Oblivion, Bioshock or Mass Effect being timed exclusive for a year or more, at full price.

I also dont see xbox one owners holding grudges over the many ps4 exclusives that are now hitting the console at their original prices of release. It comes to a certain point where we need to stop being petty, and just enjoy a great game.

[TripleCs]

Well the difference between Mass Effect, Bioshock and Oblivion's exclusivity deals compared to Tomb Raider's exclusivity deal was that those games were new IP's at the time so they had no history on PlayStation. Tomb Raider on the other hand does have a history on PlayStation dating back to the original games. Hell, PlayStation was one of the platforms the series started on. That is why me and other PlayStation fans that are long time fans and supporters of the series were upset about the news that it was going to be exclusive to Xbox.

Timed exclusivity is a dick practice whether Microsoft or Sony does it though, imo.

[rainslacker]

I remember it quite well. Maybe you should have paid more attention.

Xbox owners would be saying the same thing PS owners are now if the situation was reversed. I don't even think it's a console war thing....except for people like yourself....it's more about the overall principal that most people seem to really hate the timed exclusive deals which exclude a pretty big portion of the market place.

Unless of course, your going to extrapolate a couple people being OK with something as part of the greater consensus....which is common...although not really accurate.

[IIFloodyII]

@AsheXII
Didn't Bioshock 1 come free with Bioshock 2 (or maybe it was with Infinite?) for PS3 users, Mass Effect 1 came with ME2 and ME3 in a bundle for full price, and Oblivion included Shivering Isles (which is much bigger than RoTTR on it's own) and the other DLCs for free on PS3, so were easier to justify I guess. Whereas Rise has decent content included, but we'll have to wait and see if people think it's enough to justify a full price buy (I doubt it will).

[Kal-V3]

They can't. It's all about money and "you offended me" to these people. Gaming has nothing to do with games to them. Its all about how they can come off. Notice how they talk alot of BS about integrity and selling out, but you say "would you get it for $20" and they'll say "yeah, that's a deal".
Its all about the bottom line to "gamers" and they wonder why these companies treat them like walking wallets.
If you act like a consumer, you'll be treated like one.

[Imalwaysright]

@ BadBoyC

If you knew about TR history you would know that Sony signed a deal with Eidos that prevented TR games from being on other consoles in the PS1 days. That is why the franchise is associated with the PS brand. Sega Saturn version of TR2 was cancelled (not delayed) due to that deal and it was the 1st console TR1 was released on. Also, the xbox brand didn't exist in those days so how could the original TR games be associated with it?

MS helped fund the Rise of TR so I don't understand why you guys are upset. SF5 was funded by Sony and it isn't even a timed exclusive. At least you guys get to play this one on your console of choice.

[NeverEver]

I bet you get excited when a game isn't announced for Xbox One or when a game that would have been multi-platform or was multi-platform in the past gets announced as a PS4 exclusive. Money talks.

[Silly gameAr]

Yeah, just ignore what he said about Tomb Raiders history and go right into strawmanning.

[rainslacker]

It's important to them now because they actually need to sell the game. I can't imagine it sold well enough between X1 and PC to make up for it's development budget, or at least the expectations that Square puts on the franchise(as evidenced by their remarks about the rather good sales of the last game across all platforms being less than expected).

Great they put in all sorts of new content I guess. But to me, ROTTR on PS4 may be important to them, but it's not that important to me for a while, and even if it was my most anticipated game, I wouldn't support the practices of SE or MS by saying I'm fine just waiting a year to pay full price for a couple extra hours of new content....part of which won't even be relevant to those not shelling out $400 for a PSVR unit.

[lastking95]

Considering MS paid cash to help development your imagination is probably wrong. As long as SE gets your cash rather it's at launch for $60 or later at $40 that's all that matters to them.

[rainslacker]

True. But consider that if there are a lot of people waiting it out for the $40 or less price mark, the chances they continue to get more cash out of it all is greatly reduced. Games that don't sell well don't get many restocks, and without those restocks, all they've made is their initial launch purchase revenue and end up having distributors discount additional stock and not order more copies.

In the end, the money they made from MS will likely make up for it, but it damages their overall perception...which isn't hard with SE....and tends to put people off of the brand. I'm sure most can understand that it's all business, but as consumers, we do like to be treated with a modicum of respect. When companies disregard their customers, they are either vocal about it, or they simply look elsewhere, and in this case, both.

[C-H-E-F]

Exactly, I will be buying this game for much less and used. Crystal nor will Square get any of my monies ridiculous selling out. And I'm not just doing it to them, I do it to all games that sellout.

[Kal-V3]

So it's all about the money huh? ;)
And you say "sold out" like they are an indie band with artistic integrity or something.

But seriously, GOTY editions for games come out with all the dlc and extras, a year after initial release for $60 all the time, but the exact same thing happening here just debuting on PS4 with a bonus VR mode, is a problem?
I think people want to be mad just to be mad because this reasoning makes no sense.

[XanderZane]

I think the same thing could be said for Street Fighter V as well. I would never ever pay full price for a SFV game. The RotTR 20yr Celebration and Collector Edition will both end up on PC and XB1 as well. I wouldn't pay full price for that either. If I buy RotTR again, it'll have everything and be less then $25.

Also, it's say the dualshocker site has malicious malware on the site, so don't even bother clicking on it.

[isa_scout]

Sucks it wasn't important enough to them to release it last year along with the Xbox One version. I still remember how poorly they handled it as well saying, " PS4 owners get to play the downloadable TR game". Yall didn't want my money a year ago, and you sure ain't getting it now. I'll be renting this from Gamefly. Timed exclusive games regardless of which console manufacturer is anti consumer.

[showtimefolks]

on pc it's $9
on xbox one it's 24.98 or used around/under 20

but ps4 owners get the game one year after every console yet are expected to pay full price once more

i am buying it used(or or do gameafly) square enix isn't getting my money from this game

[showtimefolks]

oh i am sorry i didn't realize paying $10-15 was the same as paying $60

and how many of them were sony signing a developer to say don't release this on xbox one

indie developers chose ps4 due to high install base than to port the games to xbox one

[lastking95]

But you get all the cool dlc. We all knew this would happen remember. Ps4 would the goty edition, in this case anniversary.

[Skankinruby]

Yes.....I'm sure it was. We'll
see how 'important' it is when the price cuts and sales incentives get released.

[rainslacker]

I'd say three weeks tops. That's how long it took for it to have official price drops on the X1. PC took a bit longer, but there were some good exploit deals out there if one were savvy enough.

But three weeks after release, in a fully loaded holiday season, this game will drop to $40....just like it did on the X1. Even if not official, stores will want to make room for the holiday stock, and passing it off as a good Black Friday deal will probably be a thing.....just like on the X1.

[Jayszen]

What a load of crock! Talk about spin....

Imagine as the following:

"The release for PS4 was so important we decided that rather than release it when the largest fan base for the game on the Playstation was ready and willing to spend money on Day One, we would delay the release to make them wait for nearly a year longer while in the meantime, the console that has barely supported the franchise will have timed exclusivity to allow the Xboners to claim bragging rights as well as hopefully sell a few more of their console. This decision was aided by the donation of a very large cheque for a lot of money from the management of Microsoft to Square Enix.

However, rather than the success on both platforms that was hoped for, Square Enix and Crystal Dynamics found that the hasty and ill-conceived decision borne out of greed has resulted in negligible sales on the favoured console resulting in the game being sold at bargain bin prices within four months and currently available for $7 on Steam. The game is also being soundly rejected by what was expected to be the biggest market for the game, the PS4 gamers after their 20 year loyalty to the franchise was rejected during Holiday 2015 when they were not allowed to also partake in the release of Rise of the Tomb Raider. It seems a year is a very long time and now the game has almost been forgotten and considered unnecessary. Just desserts."

[TheColbertinator]

Its 7$ on Steam? I should gift it to a friend at this point.

[NeverEver]

He must be looking at the original Tomb Raider, because RotTR is $59.99 on Steam at the moment. Just complaining for no reason.

[smolinsk]

Ohh no.. not this old game again, who cares

[poppinslops]

Well, there's you and everybody else on this article... not to mention the literally millions of other comments posted on this topic.

I'd have thought that was obvious...

[nitus10]

Note really. I am here for the popcorn 😉

I have not played a Tomb Raider game since three. I have tried and for some reason, I just can't get into the newer games and the graphics have improved considerably, maybe they are not "Tomb Raderish" enough for me anymore. Go figure, although if others like the later series I wish them all the best.

[RedDevils]

not care enough to buy it first day tho, maybe when it hit $9 mark.

[DragonKnight]

Caring enough to make a comment =/= caring about the game. One could be tired of the obvious insincerity and decide to comment due to that.

[poppinslops]

You guys are so transparent... he obviously cares - his comment history is full of praise for Naughty Dogs games, but he's somehow not interested in Tomb Raider? Insincerity indeed...

[DragonKnight]

What kind of logic is "if you like Naughty Dog, then you have to like Tomb Raider?"

[poppinslops]

The regular kind... I mean it's not as though Naughty Dog haven't been ripping off Tomb Raider since Uncharted 1.

[DragonKnight]

What? Ok, so now that we've established that you don't even know what logic is, I'll remind you of 2 facts.

1. Everyone rips off of everyone. It's actually called inspiration.

2. One is completely capable of liking derivative works (even when they aren't actually derivatives), moreso than the original works or even completely dislike originals altogether. You can't make the claim that if you like one, you must then inherently like the other and if you don't then you're a liar and a hypocrite.

Even if smolinsk was actually making a fanboy comment, it's still possible to enjoy Uncharted and not Tomb Raider considering factors such as characters or story which are unique to both.

[poppinslops]

Yeah, you keep telling yourself that, and I'll keep being dead on the money... enjoy the game.

[kraenk12]

@rookie

Give it up poppy.

[ShadowKing-]

yep hope MS paid you guys enough money, because i will be waiting for holiday sale on this one.

[josephayal]

Imo this game will sell millions

[Gardenia]

I guess not as important as the money they got for one year exclusive. When they made that deal with MS they did not know Playstation would be this successful

I will buy TR but not for the full price. I can wait a few months more, and there are a lot of other great games coming in October and November anyway

[GrubsterBeater]

I agree.

I will (maybe) buy the game either used, or when it gets a price drop shortly after it's release.

I have waited a year for the game, I have no problem waiting a little longer to grab it. I refuse to purchase it new. Some may call that petty, but I am going to speak to Square Enix with my wallet, because I truly believe that what they did to their main/faithful audience was wrong.

[ecchiless]

Your money your decision i dont see any problem with that or with the ppl who's gonna buy the game day one.

[Greyfoxdbz]

it's not petty man. more people should vote with their wallets on shitty business practices such as this one. They made a decision thinking they could have the best of an exclusive deal AND a multi platform game. As it turns out, the game isn't as relevant this year as it was when it initially released on xbone and from what i'm reading here, people aren't too pleased and can't be bothered to pick it up. I'm wondering what kind of sales this game will get on the ps4.

[ShadowKnight]

I totally agree with you and you should wait for a price drop. But you will love the game regardless. Just saying in general it's a great game and I still think its the best game on Xbox one even though I played it on pc. I really enjoyed it. Can't wait for the third game and hope it releases on every console on the same day next time.

[GrubsterBeater]

@Shadow

I agree. I also think that Square Enix would not be stupid enough to release Tomb Raider just on XBox as timed exclusive. It would be a financial disaster, and they learned their lesson already. I do think it would be really funny if the next TR was a PS4 timed exclusive. Imagine the anger and confusion in XBox camp. Lol but seriously, I don't think they should do timed deals for any platforms because it is not good business.

[rainslacker]

When they made the deal, they also thought they were going up against UC4, and since MS wanted something to compete with that, they thought that MS would promote it heavily, which was probably more important to them than the PS4 release.

Neither of the above things happened though, so ROTTR had to go up against a UC remaster, which still beat it in sales and popularity, and this holiday, ROTTR will be competing against UC4 in some way for new system purchases.

Gotta love irony.

Basically, all this part of the quotes...or highlights rather....is that CD is saying,

"PS4 release was very important for us because we wanted to implement some features we couldn't do in the original game and explore some ideas that serve our own vanity. We don't actually care about the fans themselves on PS4, and we still cared more about the X1 release to give them a full year to have the game because MS gave us some money....or at least gave our publisher some money, but it helped us, so it's cool".

That's the jist of what was said IMO, but one has to read through all the highlights mentioned in this article to actually see what's being said.

[leoms]

The website is blocked form me for some reason.

[MasterCornholio]

I'll wait for a project for drop. I'm not paying for the timed exclusivity deal.

[realplu]

I will be deep into PSVR by the time this comes out. I enjoyed the previous games but I will not bend over for this one. I will wait for a price drop or two.

[DivineAssault]

Well crystal dynamics shouldve released the game simultaneously then.. Im not buying it until theres a sale out of spite

[mike32UK]

That spites no one but the vendor, not Square Enix. If you want to vote with your wallet buy it second hand or not at all.

[DragonKnight]

Vendors choose to have sales, so it doesn't spite them to take advantage of what they are offering.

[DivineAssault]

second hand sounds good if theres no dlc codes needed for the extra content

[Redx165]

Yes the PS4 release was so important that you're releasing it a year later instead of day 1. I bet you the amount of copies sold on PS4 would of made more than what Microsoft paid you.

This game is irrelevant to us PS4 gamers. We have many new games coming out and even remastered games that are 10 times better.

[TheDivine]

I wasn't angry but totally apathetic. When the game was announced I was super hyped (for good reason its the best game from last year) but I didn't own an xbone or pc and one game isn't enough for me to buy one. Especially knowing it was timed. But a year after I'm not still hyped. I eventually played it this last week and I paid 30 dollars the most I was willing to pay for it. I wouldn't pay 60 even with the dlc, its a year old game.

I will say its a nice package overall and they're trying. It will sell well but a lot of us want a lower price. It wasn't CD (who I love) but whoever decided a few million dollars was worth more than a few million sales and not pissing off consumers should and prob was fired. This isn't 2009 where people go for this shit. Not with popular pre established third party games like Tomb Raider and Street Fighter 5 which I will never buy. Ms and Sony can quit and start producing their OWN games. We could have an extra exclusive on each system and SF5/RotTR on both which would've better for everyone.

[leoms]

So... Why are the sites blocked recently?

[nevin1]

I wonder what the reaction will be if Street Fighter 5 gets an announcement for a 2017 release for Xone.

[windblowsagain]

Are they going to sell full price, if so hahahah.

I have it on PC, it's a good game.But should be half price now on PS4.

[Xavy]

Now its important? To late mate,

[NeverEver]

Too*

[buttcheeks]

I'll get around summer next year there is just to many games this year and early 2017 that I want if they really cared about ps4 gamers they should have given us some options like releasing the game without the dlc for around 30 to 40$ alongside the anniversary edition.

[Sm00thNinja]

Playstation fan boys are freaking ridiculous. You let your fan boy get in the way of your gamer. I plan on getting this game again for PS4. Amazing entry in the series. Rookie better add to his dumb ass list after this thread smh

[MatrixxGT]

The level of fanboyism is over 9000!

[leoms]

How is deciding not to pay full price for a year old game fanboyish?

[Sm00thNinja]

Nothing at all wrong with that. It's the ones saying Crystal Dynamics has betrayed you all thats the issue don't play coy. By all means wait til it's 19.99 but don't write it off because it was in Xbox first

[kraenk12]

It's just one of Rookies troll accounts...don't bother.

[kraenk12]

@rookieninja

You above all are complaining about fanboys?! Hypocrite.

[oasdada]

They shouldve figured it out last year

[VsAssassin]

I can actually see them releasing a new TR game exclusive to Xbox a year before TR's 25th anniversary and call the delayed PS version "important to us".

Seriously, I know it was SE's decision, but I just lost a ton of trust and confidence in the devs--which should not be the case.

[WeAreLegion]

I'm sure it was, but Square didn't seem to think so.

[Greyfoxdbz]

hard to get excited for a year old game that people have forgotten about. especially with all the awesome games coming out soon.

[leoms]

NIOH!!!!!!

@Movefasta1993

Yep. here is the source http://blog.us.playstation....

[Movefasta1993]

Nioh is coming out this year?

[AmUnRa]

Movefasta yes it is...

[Greyfoxdbz]

the beta was amazing. definitely a must-buy game

[TheColbertinator]

Face the facts,Sony fanboys. You got backstabbed and you all determine how much knife you'll let sink in.

ROTR is awesome so it figures Sony would not pay to have it but pays to get overhyped indies.

[Chevalier]

While you are talking about the 1 great game on Xbox in 12 months we've played better games like Uncharted 4.

[Sm00thNinja]

So guess you never need to play a great game again that's logic alright

[Elda]

LOL! I know that's right!

[ecchiless]

@MK

mmmm let see, The last guardian, gravity rush 2, the tomorrow children, VR exclusives games(take your pick, theres gonna be a bunch of titles coming), paragon, hellblade, persona 5...

[leoms]

So you only played one awesome game in 12 months, go figure.

[ClayRules2012]

I'm sure Rise of the Tomb Raider is a great game, and I'm grateful people on Xbox One/360 really enjoyed it.

Having said that, Sony's fans were done wrong by Crystal Dynamics. The Tomb Raider franchise was on Sony's console long before Microsoft came up with the original Xbox. No hate intended at Xbox or Xbox gamers.

They can say ( Rise of the Tomb Raider's PS4 Release ) Was "Very Important" for them all they want, but them accepting Microsoft's deal was foolish & ignorant "in my opinion" Crystal Dynamics made a choice, they chose to be greedy & spit in the face of million's of loyal TR fans who've been playing the game on Sony's console since the original game, on the first PlayStation.

Money's the root of all evil...

[rainslacker]

It's not important to them because of the fan base. It's important to them because it allowed them to explore some vanity projects they wanted to put into the game....namely the mansion and implementing some VR functionality into the game.

They said nothing about the exclusivity deal, and how much the PS fans actually mean to them.

Kind of have to read it all to see where they're actually coming from with the article headline, which makes it seem more like they are trying to say they care about the PS or the fans.

[MCTJim]

But let us not forget that Sony paid for exclusivity back when it was on Playstation. They kept it off Sega's console. They only way you could play it was on PC or to buy a Sony Playstation.

[Chevalier]

@Mightkidicarus

" You might have played Uncharted 4, but we have played Halo 5 which also destroys your Uncharted in multiplayer content. While you are still left playing that months later I have Recore, Gears of War 4, Forza Horizon 3 and more coming in the next few months. Your move!"

Okay so you got 2 whole months out of the year?! Guess we should be happy you even got that. We already had Gravity Rush, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted 4, MLB 16, Alienation, Firewatch, Shadow of the Beast, NMS, SFV, The Witness, Paragon, God Eater 2, ABZU, Digimon Cybersleuth, Grand Kingdom, Guilty Gear Revelator, King of Fighters 14, Odin Sphere, Salt and Sanctuary and Valkyria Chronicles.

The fall we Have Nioh, Last Guardian, Gravity Rush 2, Tomorrow Children, Dragon Quest Builders, Drawn to Death, Final Fantasy 12 Zodiac Edition, Hellblade, Steinsgate 0, World of Final Fantasy to name a few plus a bunch of PSVR. It's nice you have 4 games though. Icarus what a perfect name.....

[Jon61586]

Yeah as much as I want to play it I'm probably will get an Xbox Scorpio and then the game at some other juncture. Too many games coming out that will hold my attention.

[ICarly1985]

I agree with Bone on this one, crystal dynamics basically shot themselves in the foot and now they want us to buy a game that's a year old and could have been on both consoles? they are the ones who sold out to microsoft in the first place so they are not getting any of my money either, sorry guys you all blew it

[Kiwi66]

So if people aren't going to buy this game would they be angry if any future TR games didn't come to ps if it doesn't do well or would the true TR fans buy it regardless ..... @Speak numbers probably would be a factor in the long run if ps gamers refused to still support the franchise

[Speak_da_Truth]

I has nothing to do with the numbers. The definitive edition sold 3x more on Ps4 than xb1 but that didn't do anything.

[leoms]

I don't think anyone cares anymore apart from you, bud.

[Elda]

Yeah ok...too late. Though I will buy it Black Friday hopefully half price or less.

[Speak_da_Truth]

Yeah whatever. When it's under $30 then I'll consider.

[MilkMan]

If I had my premiere IP losing money on one system of course it's "very important" not only to release it on the market leader platform, but also find religion, since it will take massive prayers and goodwill towards all men to recoup the money loss.
Amen.

[MasterofMagnetism]

OK fine whatever. It's still a good game so I'll grab it used or wait for a discount.

[BlakHavoc]

Still very excited for this, had to wait a year but there was a crap ton of games for me to play meanwhile.

[NextGenCeo]

1 year later release game on PS4 with 59$ full price! Not give any visual improve or worthy content! I did not pay and i did not play yet. When game get on sale or plus sales i can pay 20$ nothing more.
I have Uncharted Collection and Uncharted 4. So almost 1.5 years old game i`m not gone pay 59$.

(Esl guy here sorry for english)

[Germany7]

You cant say anything about this game on PS4 or your comment will be inappropriate, lol.

[Mr_Luke]

CD wanted to release it, SE didn't. I'm not going to buy it right away, maybe when it's around $40 or something because, DLC or not, the game isn't "new".
I understand that they liked the money and that they need it, of course but SE has to learn and if they learn by a loss in sales, good (i'm sure they won't).
I'm curious to see how many PS4 owners are going to get RotTR once it's out and at full price. The 20th anniversary thing makes me laugh, it's like a daughter that spits in your face and runs away to leave with another family, then comes back and wants the party and the gifts for her 20th birthday =P

[Ristul]

I would rather buy a second copy of Witcher 3 and give it away to support CDPR, then to buy Rise of the Tomb Raider.

[Artemidorus]

So important they took a Microsoft deal and then try and slap a full retail price on the Playstation later on.

It should be a half price game since it's old.

[Inzo]

Square's greed, I think, has cost them. I'll be very surprised if this game sell better on the PS4 than on xbox and those sales were mediocre to say the least.

[mike32UK]

Shame it wasn't so important to Square Enix.

[MagicBeanz]

LOL, yeah right.

[NotEvenMyFinalForm]

Clearly not as important as the paycheck they got from MS. They even denied the game being a timed-exclusive and it wasn't till the outrage begin that MS admitted it wasn't really an exclusive.

Nothing worse than this kind of disingenuous PR.

[LoveSpuds]

I like good games and this looks like a great title however, I do feel the whole exclusivity thing was very poorly handled.

The game was developed as a multiplatform title and the way MS swooped in to buy exclusivity so late on really annoyed me so I do feel like I want to send a message to Square Enix.

Luckily there are loads of games to play so I intend to wait until I see it going cheap before I buy.

[Herbalistic]

I'll pick it up down the road once its cheap

[Sharius]

30 bucks and i will bite, but if they like full price too much, then i will see them in flash sale

[Neonridr]

Well sure it was very important.. they would like to line their pockets a little more. No surprise there.

Plus PS4 users should get to experience the game too. Provided they can put their hate blinders aside for a minute and just play the damned game without a chip on their shoulder.

[bradleejones]

I'll get when its offered on PS Plus. Otherwise I'm not interested. If I get bored I'll run through UC4 again. Or some other game that isn't a year old and is $60.

[WellyUK]

Some of you people... Christ. Whats the issue really, nothing you could do about the MS deal so stop crying, at the end of the day ROTTR is a fantastic game and is just as good if not better than Uncharted 4.

[Speak_da_Truth]

There is something we could do. We can vote with our wallet.

[WellyUK]

doing that is more likely going to end with no more Tomb raider games...

[Speak_da_Truth]

Well they should've thought of that before accepting MS's check don't you think.

[Nodoze]

29 or cheaper or I am not even interested. Square is flat out stupid. Let them feel the pain in their pocket book. Only through this pain will the bain of gaming (the timed exclusive) end. It does NOBODY any favors. To purposely remove your game from a broader audience is just plain stupid.

[Neonridr]

What about when Sony does it? Is it ok then? Will you still buy that game because it's on "your side of the fence"?

Or will you practice what you preach here and not buy it because you are standing for something grander?

[0ROSOY]

Nope, not paying full price for a year old game

[_LarZen_]

What sir? I cant have this car cheaper? But it came out years ago.... What sir? I cant buy this house cheaper? It's an old house!. What sir? Oh man...you kids are gonna love adulthood.

[Neonridr]

#adulting is hard :P

[mikemurder35]

Tomb raider started out on pc ps1 and sega Saturn. So the franchises has never been exclusive same goes for resident evil

[cfc83]

It will sell well on ps4, simply because it's a good game.

[chobit_A5HL3Y]

this game is only worth $50cdn at it's ps4 release. i mean, i still wouldn't buy it for that price, but it's a year late and has to compete with uncharted, so good luck with that.

[Igihara]

M$ money was more important..

[arkard]

No way in hell I'm paying 60 for it, I'll wait for bargain bin 20$. Should be a fun game to play when the inevitable summer drought hits.

[FreeSpeech69]

Stop doing timed exclusives. If you want to go XBONE Exclusive, GO ALL THE FUCKING WAY

[cyber_daemonx]

Game will get lost in the holiday rush anyhow, just like last year.

[rocketpanda]

It is important after that MS money.

[dolfa]

This game is overrated.

[monkey602]

I'm actually looking forward to this game and I will get it, but given everything that went on with the title I will wait for a price drop. I'm not going to pay full price on an old title during a crowded release window because they tacked on VR and zombies. Black Friday sale or definitely a big price drop before Christmas is a guarantee for this one