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Why You Shouldn’t Trust Battlefield 1

Battlefield 1 has to distort World War I in order to succeed, but let's not forget that fact.

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NukaCola2849d ago

This feminist and racist sympathizer should review the word "fiction"

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Aenea2848d ago

The what now? Not one mention of 'race' or women in this article! Just that the game distorts history to make it a fun game and that we must not forget that the actual war was nasty.

I don't see much wrong with the article, okay, it gave me a "d'uh!" moment, I think we all know that reality is being distorted to make it a fun game, so yeah it's a non article, but I don't get your remark at all.

Though it's funny you should mention 'fiction', under that guise it would also be okay to add women to BF1 but since you mentioned feminist I doubt you would be okay with that 😜

KiwiViper852848d ago

Is there any game that doesn't distort reality for the purposes of fun?...

Even Chess asks us to imagine miniature figures are Kings, Queens, and Horsies.

Eonjay2847d ago

Well, its funny you say this because everyone wants the more 'realistic boots on the ground warfare'... but in all honesty, we don't really want real warfare and all of its horror, genocide, torture, dead children, starvation, and other horrors.

This is why I'm more interested in Infinite warfare because it is based purely on fiction. World War simulations, fictional or otherwise will never do justice to the millions that died. And I'm not talking about the front lines. I will however be getting the Special Edition of this game for the Harlem Hellfighter statue.

The 10th Rider2847d ago

She says there's no mention of naval warfare, which they've already confirmed is in the game. And she laments that neither France nor Russia are in the game, when France has confirmed to be in future DLC (bleh, but at least they're in it.)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA2848d ago (Edited 2848d ago )

Why i should trust them....
Its not cod

(And yes i gave up reading this article)

WellyUK2847d ago

but cod and BF are two sides of the same coin... People just seem to think BF is a far better game when it has very similar issues to cod, it's becoming just as casual, slowly removing the team aspect of the series. BF1 looks great and all but it's just going to be a copy and paste of 3/4 with a skin on top.

I'm looking forward to it but I'm not expecting anything amazing from DICE now a days.

bmf73642847d ago

I'm in the closed alpha rn, and all I will say is that is far from a casual shooter...

WellyUK2847d ago

right... Because giving everyone automatics on a WW1 game doesn't show how casual it is when very few of those automatic weapons were actually used. They do it to cater to the casual market. Health regen, which was added in to well cater to the casual market again. Able to repair vehicles while inside them, guess what? yep added in to make the game more accessible fr new/casual players. The series has progressively done this stuff.

I love the BF series but it's far from the great series it was. Still looking forward to BF1 though.

PressPlayBro2847d ago

I'm not a COD fan but at least they give you a whole finished game.

iceman062848d ago

The article really should be called "Why You Shouldn't Trust Battlefield 1 To Explain Everything" because, apparently, that's what she seems to be lamenting. Though I understand the want for her to get people to see what this war was about and all of the nuances involved, I don't think this is the proper medium to address ALL of that. Hell, books and movies can't even do that. (unless it's a historical reference completely about WWI) Games are meant, primarily, to be fun first and foremost. If you can teach a thing or two along the way without killing the fun...so be it. But, it's not really the job of a mass market FPS to tell the complete story of WWI. That's for historians, documentarians, museums, teachers, professors and the like. Or, as the article ultimately hinted...become interested and do your own research. Anything else is truly asking WAY too much of any game.

Swiftfox2848d ago

I disagree. I don't think anyone is asking a single game portray all aspects of the Great War. This instance, however, is going to be like giving the script of "All's Quiet on the Western Front" to Micheal Bay. There will be no message, not theme, no investigation--it's going to be an explosion riddled, popcorn flick. Games already have too many of these, so I can understand the feeling this is a missed opportunity with such a relatively unexplored conflict in the medium.

It doesn't have to be a documentary to respect the history.

Kleptic2848d ago

You're coming off as a bit entitled...

First, there are very few games set in WWI...Missed opportunity for what, exactly? The game isn't out yet...no one knows what the single player has in it, yet. And asking any form of multiplayer game to properly introduce and explain the history of what is going on is kind of ridiculous.

I'm not defending BF1, or especially EA/DICE...I don't trust them at all...but for better reasons; I'm more worried that this piece of entertainment will be full on nightmare at release, not work properly, and be a repeat of BF4...Worrying about whether or not a bit of entertainment properly informs 'gamers' about a war from 100 years ago...there are better mediums for that...and more importantly; no one knows how badly they got it wrong just yet...but if they get the fun, and miss the history...so what? A game is the opposite of a text book. When text books aren't fun, do book nutters congregate on text book websites and criticize it on it not doing something it was never really intended to do?

I'm just a person that believes that it's perfectly ok for some things to not have a message...to not have some overall deeper meaning...BF1 going to WW1, to me, is just a new place to shoot at people in a virtual sand box with different things. Nothing more, nothing less. No game has ever nailed the history aspect of anything war related, and I don't see why BF1 should be held to a different standard just because it's approaching a theater less visited...

iceman062847d ago

While I understand what you are saying by "missed opportunity", this is STILL a Battlefield game. In saying that, there is only going to be so much depth and exploration of the entire war. I'm sure that they will build a nice enough narrative to compel the player through the single player story. But, they also know that their formula (keeping it short, relatively simple, and entertaining) is what sells. IMO, that's not disrespecting history as much as not being able to provide the full breadth and depth that the subject might deserve.
That being said, I would like to see games past the "popcorn flick" and into much more profound and expository material. I'm just saying that a Battlefield game wouldn't be where I would expect that.

OC_MurphysLaw2848d ago (Edited 2848d ago )

" World War I was incredibly boring" ... This statement just has me laughing. I guess the author was right there in the trenches fighting and has first hand knowledge.

Edit: My point is just because what you read in history books didn't sound exciting and reflected long drawn out confrontations doesn't mean you cannot create and make a compelling, exciting game of the topic. If we based our views of what would and wouldn't be a good game on history then games like Red Dead Redemption would have been totally boring and mundane filled with lots of hard work as that was the reality of the early west according to the history books.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA2848d ago (Edited 2848d ago )

The aurthor was also in WWII so its totally legit thats how they knew WWI was more boring then WWII haha :P

OC_MurphysLaw2848d ago

Haha...well they got me there... I stand corrected clearly this author is an expert on authenticity of these wars with first hand knowledge.

The 10th Rider2847d ago

I'd love to hear which wars were fun, too. I'm sure everyone in any war found their high points were they enjoyed themselves despite their dire circumstances (though it almost definitely wasn't during battle), but the majority of time war is a bleak affair, regardless of era.

2pacalypsenow2848d ago

Nobody wants a history lesson when playing games. As long a s the game is fun that's all I care

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iceman062847d ago

Actually, I wouldn't mind it as long as it's not forced. Assassin's Creed does a great job of providing some historical context without seeming like an overdrawn historical documentary. But, as you said, it still has to be fun.

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DICE Needs To Recapture The Magic Of Battlefield 1 In The Next Game

For DICE to succeed with its next game, it has to return to the roots of the franchise. Atmospheric map design, clear and defined class-based gameplay, attention to detail, and total chaos. Battlefield 1 feels like every rock, every glint on your sniper rifle, every falling brick from a collapsing church, has been painstakingly considered. So much care went into the design of the game, from its soundtrack to its costume department. To stand a chance alongside the behemoths of Treyarch and Infinity Ward, DICE needs to recapture what made their old games so brilliant, otherwise it’s all over.

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LordoftheCritics528d ago

"DICE Needs To Recapture The Magic Of Battlefield 3 In The Next Game"

/Fixed

...on a serious note, DICE needs to remove the Battlefield name.

isarai528d ago

Eh, bfbc2 was the peak for me, only ad dogfighting and the accommodations that come with it. Every BF after that was such an unsatisfying progression system for weapons and gear for the classes, 90% of the guns feel exactly the same when you unlock them, just felt boring in comparison. Not to mention the gimped destruction as the series progressed

Sciurus_vulgaris528d ago

I found Battlefield 1 to be overrated. The gameplay was simpler and less strategic than its predecessors. Battlefield 1 did have a woo-factor, but the gameplay got repetitive faster than Battlefield 4 in my opinion.

porkChop527d ago

If DICE needs to return to the roots of the franchise then why would they look at Battlefield 1? BF1 is overly simplified and streamlined. What DICE should focus on is Battlefield 3 and Bad Company 2. Those two games were the pinnacle of the franchise.

TheEnigma313527d ago

BC2 was the best. they need to get back to that.

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Battlefield 1, Hardline, BF4 Servers Are Being Taken Offline by Cheaters; EA Silent on Issue

Cheaters & hackers have been causing grief on Battlefield 1, Hardline & BF4 servers, with nonstop DDoS attacks among other things. Unfortunately, EA has remained silent about it.

-Foxtrot758d ago

Course they are silent, they are hoping people flock to 2042

gamesftw250757d ago

Maybe it was a inside job then haha.

jeromeface756d ago

wouldnt be the first time, titanfall 1+2 anyone?

PapaBop757d ago

Not even if they paid me.. EA always do this with old games with less money potential, if this was Ultimate Team, they'd address and sort it faster than stories could spread. Why invest time in their products when they will just dump it in the following years? Then again EA never could see the forest for the trees.

Inverno757d ago

I imagine after those games were given out for free a couple months back through Amazon, anything that makes people go to 2042 is a plus for them

XiNatsuDragnel758d ago

They want people to go on 2042. My theory

excaliburps757d ago

Nah. I think they can't do anything about it or they want to sink money into fixing it.

Pudge102888757d ago (Edited 757d ago )

EA owns all BF servers so yes, they can do something about it but they refuse to because they dont want ppl playing their old games instead of the new one. Its EA we’re talking about here

pr33k33757d ago

if this happened in 2042, they'd have something to say. which is weird, considering battlefield 1 has more players on steam right now.

Pudge102888757d ago

Its so obvious that EA is doing this or hired ppl to mess up the games so that we’d be forced to have just 1 Battlefield working.

FPS_D3TH757d ago

Honestly it’s probably the devs themselves. They did an update to bf4 way back that kinda made assault rifles doo doo in hopes that people would flock to BF1 cuz BF4 was too perfect

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Xbox Store Weekly Game Sale Features Deep Discounts On Many X360 Games & DLCs

Daily Video Game writes: "This week’s weekly digital game sale on Xbox Store features deep discounts on many popular AAA Xbox 360 games that are backwards compatible for Xbox One and Xbox Series X/S, including Gears of War, Fable, Max Payne, Saints Row, Bully, Catherine, and lots more!"

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MadLad826d ago

Grabbed Panzer Dragoon, the Darkness, Conker Reloaded, Burnout Revenge, Time Splitters 2, Fight Night Champions, and Stuntman Ignition.

Essentially some of the classics that I can't get on PC, now that I have a Series S.