"Jumping into the new and exciting world of virtual reality has more dangers than just suffering from motion sickness or bumping your knee on the coffee table while wearing a giant set of goggles. Sticker shock is a very real side effect of the devices leading this first generation of virtual experiences." - Cnet
It's sometimes claimed that PC VR usage on Steam is shrinking, but here's why that isn't actually true.
The context in the article is kinda like the discussion of MAU metrics. Manipulation of figures to get it to say what you want it to.
I.e. "The proportion is shrinking, but there are more players so it's actually not shrinking!"
That's not like mau metrics ....
If there's 20,000 players and only 10% use it and then there's a jump to 40,000 and 10% are using still using it then....there's been an increase because 10% of 40k is higher than 20k.
That's an actual number increase of people using it. That's growth.
MAU is used to reference engagement or growth in a game. The conversation is muddied because people want to talk about sales instead of player count. How is this not like that?
Growth can mean and be two different things. Growth of quantity, or growth of proportion. People in finance and accounting will never look at 2% in one instant and look at 2% at a later instant and say "Hey look, growth!" That's a joke, to be frank. The 2% is more than the earlier 2% but that 98% remainder also grew.
I wish Sony would have given upgrades to many of their PSVR games for their VR2 system. Unfortunately for me their pcvr movement is not doing me any favors, hopefully there’s some kind of trickle down effect.
Sony would only be able to Patch its own games. Devs would have to go back and create their own patches. To be frank, whats gonna stop this from happening is money. Are they willing to pay to have a developer create the patch, QA to test...
@Eonjay totally agree with what you said about third party devs and the cost, Q&A etc, but Sony could have updated Astrobot, The Persistance, Blood and Truth, and Farpoint. Have a few in-house devs work on DriveClub vr, and pay for an update for Rush of Blood and maybe a Shadow of the Colossus VR. I would love to play Borderlands VR on PSVR2.
Sure Sony mightve been able to help but reality is most of those titles were from 3rd parties.
What he's saying is that Sony should have lead by example. Instead, they haven't done shit bringing them forward and expected 3rd parties to do it themselves in bringing their own games. If Sony's not going to do it, why should they?
It's like when they lead by example in the creation of their games. Or lead by example when they make their hardware.
Hate to say it, but for PS VR 2, they are lagging big time. GT is nice. But if you're tired of sims, then there's just Horizon. I'd rather have Blood and Truth remastered at that level or a sequel than what they currently released. No chance of that though as they killed London Studios. Another bullshit move they made. About as bad as killing Evolution Studios to keep GT as their only racing game. I like Sony's platform. But I'm not buying their headset if they're not going to put in the effort like they do with flat games.
Exactly. I almost bought vr2 but it's the games missing. Sure that horizon might be dope but I'd prefer the full horizon, or last of us, Spiderman, something. Pay some 3rd party devs. I was hoping to get that fallout 4 but that's not happening now lol
Vr is dope. Idk know why people wanna hate. It's definitely a dope next step. Even if it's a sidestep. I really wish more developers would throw down. Imagine a last of us with vr, or a final fantasy game, all kinds of stuff. It would be incredible.
Viveport, the VR retail platform from HTC is now giving developers 90% of their game revenue, instead of a 70/30 spilt like Steam.
It could be free and it wouldn't matter at this point. There isn't really a PCVR Market and I say that as a PCVR user. It is modders and enthusiasts with a few retail products on Steam.
The Flat2VR community is taking the next step and announced a studio that will develop and commercialize licensed VR ports.
This is great news I love virtual reality and my psVR2 however it's clear that the current bespoke way of building VR games is not working. There's some great games that have been released Absol but they are few and far between and if they are native they are clearly lower in budget and scope then at least I would like. It's definitely jarring to.go from high quality games like Spider-Man 2 to the biggest VR releases like Arizona sunshine 2 and see the huge gulp in quality.
This company aims to streamline porting older games into VR and make them feel as VR native as possible.
And to be honest some of my favourite VR experiences have been traditionally flat screen games ported into VR like resident evil 7, 8 4, doom 3 with the aim controller or borderlands 2.
And I'm not saying that there isn't great native VR games to be found I'm saying more traditional games ported over would be very welcome we have decades of amazing games that we all love and VR presents an opportunity to truely bring us into the world.
The floating hands wires climbing/tool sims need to go for sure.
But i want the sword art online vr now that would be awesome
I just found my people. Massive vr fan here but I want to live in older more broader era experiences that were made for traditional gaming. But in VR.
Yes! I hope they bring Doom 3 to PSVR2. I was happy to see it on PSVR but couldn't help but feel like they should have held off for the PSVR2 for that game. They had to substantially cut the visuals on that. I feel like a psvr2 version would be able to do it better justice. I've asked the company that made the psvr port if there was any plans to make a psvr2 version, they said no but that if they were asked by Sony to do it they would. I also would love to see Star Wars Squadrons get a PSVR2 version.
Yes squadrons I forgot about that one it was amazing to play online with flat screen gamer friends some of my favourite multiplayer moments
Amazing news, there're so many forgotten gems out there, these guys have been consistently porting old games like Return to Wolfenstein, Quake 4, jedi knight, etc. Sounds great that they can earn a living by doing official ports, publishers dust off some old properties, gamers get great games in VR, we all win.
Awesome news! Which popular Steam and Switch game do you think is their first project?
I really have no interest in VR.
VR is way too expensive for me at the moment, so thanks, but no thanks.
Ooooooohhhhh! There's no possible way I could afford that!
The issue with VR isn't cost and hardware. It's the content. The content is garbage right now and does not justify the cost. You're basically spending hundreds of dollars to play casual indie games. There isn't a single killer app in any of them.
Yeah, no. I'm not spending that kind of money lol.
I have yet to see a VR game that truly excites me, and even if there was, if there was a 'standard' version, I'd still end up taking that.
VR just seems like a rich-kid's play thing right now. Still waiting to see if it has any standing power like analogue sticks, rumble and wireless controllers. Those were all 'new advances in technology' at one point, but they stuck around for the long haul. VR gaming needs to become much more affordable, and not to mention practical (not everyone has a big open space to play in), for the average Joe to take serious notice.