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Programmer jailbreaks PS4 to play Steam games

MWEB GameZone writes: "Could we be seeing Steam run independently on the PS4 or the Xbox One in the near future?"

HanCilliers2884d ago

Me thinks not gonna happen. Cross-play is one thing, but Steam on console? That'll be the day

Yui_Suzumiya2883d ago

Would be awesome though! Can you imagine Steam on the next PS/Xbox?! Now that'd be an effing megaton!!

InTheZoneAC2883d ago

at that point there would be no need for xbox...

BossBattle2883d ago

@Inthezoneac there's no need for any console if we're talking about steam here. Especially once someone gets emulators for Xbox and Playstation games on pc.

kaizokuspy2883d ago

@boss battle

How expensive would the pc setup be, to run and emulate ps4 exclusives though?

GrimmyReaper2883d ago

@kaizokuspy
Given that the PS4 uses familiar hardware and x86 structure, me thinks. Not very expensive.
Heck, people are already getting close to emulate PS4 games, while the PS3 emulator is still wonky

Eonjay2883d ago

Um, isn't Microsoft's big reveal related to Steam on Xbox.

rainslacker2883d ago

It would seem you would either need Windows to make this work, or be restricted to SteamOS/Linux offerings. Obviously Xbox would have an advantage on the Windows front, but if it's hacked, it's unlikely to be allowed for very long.

I doubt official support would happen, because there's not much reason for Sony or MS to lose revenue from unlicensed software which they have no control over, which in itself offers up a multitude of security risks for their own closed systems.

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joab7772883d ago

Only if there is money in it. If Sony could get a cut on games they don't offer themselves...maybe.

neoandrew2883d ago

Exactly, this is the reason EA Access was denied by sony on ps4.

donthate2883d ago (Edited 2883d ago )

Unless the games are pirated, retail disc based game sales still profit Sony. Every disc sold gets a cut to Sony.

@neoandrew:

"Exactly, this is the reason EA Access was denied by sony on ps4."

Which also shows how generous MS is at the moment allowing it on Xbox platform.

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kevnb2883d ago

It's already been done, although I'm sure they aren't getting the full potential of the ps4.

AndrewLB2883d ago

These consoles are PCs bro. Same hardware architecture and everything. If they could get linux running on the PS3, this will be much easier to do. Steam OS is based on Debian linux PS4's os is based off FreeBSD. all of those run on pc hardware.

Dragonking0072883d ago

Well you never know these days sony already let one of there biggest feature on to pc which is remoteplay.

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PSN_ZeroOnyx2883d ago

The next GeoHotz. Sony will take it to court, get his program and update a patch to block it.

ILostMyMind2883d ago (Edited 2883d ago )

It is alread locked now .

Imalwaysright2883d ago

Last time I heard, it wasn't illegal to jailbreak your devices.

ziggurcat2883d ago

The legislation, unless it has changed, only applies to cellphones. You can't jailbreak a console, legally, as far as I know.

PSN_ZeroOnyx2883d ago

An Australian jailbroke the PS3 and a court injunction prevented distribution, but allowed Sony a copy to patch the system. GeoHotz also jailbroke the PS3 and lost in court in Georgia. Again Sony received the software to patch the system and though the courts waved jail time he had restitution to pay any cannot own Sony products.

rainslacker2883d ago (Edited 2883d ago )

It was actually ruled that the cons outweigh the consumer rights when it came to consoles. Was around the last few years of last gen. I don't think it was a case set into precedent, but was a ruling by a judge. Sony had some thing against some university I believe, but I'd have to go look it up.

IIRC, the ruling didn't make jailbreaking illegal, it did make it so the console makers could exercise their rights to "shut off" the console, basically making it unusable outside of the jailbreak.

Edit: Damn, should have read all the replies. Looks like you found something as well. This is seperate from the thing I was talking about though. I'll see if I can find a link when I feel like it, but likely will forget about this by tomorrow.:(

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lfc_4eva2883d ago

You can never stop determined guys wanting to prove their skills against the big boys.

Rookie_Monster2883d ago

Sounds cool but I wouldn't want to chance it and brick my PS4 as I need it still for all the great games still coming and PSVR.

jb2272883d ago

You won't have to worry about bricking, my inside sources say that Sony themselves are releasing an official version! This will be great because PS4 owners can use it as a workaround to play games only on PC & Xbox like Rise of the Tomb Raider & Cuphead! This can totally happen!

Outside_ofthe_Box2883d ago

'my inside sources'

lol, you expect people to believe you?

ziggurcat2883d ago

Why? What benefit is it to play steam games on console when they run exponentially better on PC?

UnHoly_One2883d ago

Because some people don't have a PC that can exceed the PS4's capabilities?

That seems like a pretty obvious answer to your question, so I'm guessing your "question" was just to troll and not a legitimate inquiry.

ziggurcat2883d ago

... And playing the games on equivalent HW accomplishes what, exactly? I don't see how questioning the usefulness of running steam on console constitutes trolling.

Spyroo2883d ago

"Because some people don't have a PC that can exceed the PS4's capabilities?"

LOL!

ILostMyMind2883d ago

I think most of people don't have that PC.

gangsta_red2883d ago (Edited 2883d ago )

Convenience maybe, or like Unholy One said maybe that person doesn't have a PC that can run these games and having it on PS4 is a possible solution to this.

So you don't see how questioning the usefulness of something is trolling and yet you feel someone asking what they think of game is right?

http://n4g.com/news/1909141...

Rookie_Monster2883d ago (Edited 2883d ago )

Lol, nice find Gansta. Some people just like to be hyprocrite, I guess. And agreed with UnHoly_One that for many folks that don't have a PC rig to run some of the more demanding Steam games, a PS4 might be a great alternative for them as It can kill 2 birds with one stone analogy.

gangsta_red2883d ago

@Rookie

I know right, that's like asking why do I need Netflix on my smartphone when I have a 60' flat screen at home.

I personally don't game much on my PC but I wouldn't mind having access to Steam through my consoles. I mean it could only mean more games right?

ziggurcat2883d ago

"Convenience maybe, or like Unholy One said maybe that person doesn't have a PC that can run these games and having it on PS4 is a possible solution to this."

That's a fair enough answer.

"So you don't see how questioning the usefulness of something is trolling and yet you feel someone asking what they think of game is right?"

The difference, gangsta, is I'm just asking a question, I'm not attacking or childishly insulting anyone who might find it useful.

gangsta_red2883d ago

Oh, so for you it's just asking a question right? Like how I asked a question and got a childish response from you and your brothers.

"I'm not attacking or childishly insulting anyone who might find it useful."

I think you know more about being childish and insulting more than anyone here right Ziggurcat?

http://n4g.com/news/1908707...

Rookie_Monster2883d ago (Edited 2883d ago )

Dang, caught him off guard 2x! you have earned a detective badge from me. Great work.

Edit: dang Ziggercat sounded mad and try to act innocent in self defense. That is a sign that a man is guilty.

ziggurcat2883d ago

If you can point out anywhere in the questions I've asked where I've personally attacked anyone who thought this was a useful/beneficial function to add to their console, please be my guest. My question was how was the function useful, not why does x person think it's useful (or how can x person be so foolish in thinking it's useful).

The context of your question was insulting. How so? Because you immediately followed up with how something somewhere stated that the game looked bad (even though you provided no evidence to support your claim), so you were clearly asking the question in bewilderment, and mocking him for stating that he thought the game looked "sweet." Someone can think something looks good even if it's based on a single photograph - and there are a lot of concept design photos in the article as well (which, evidently, you didn't click).

My response was based on your belligerent, insulting attitude towards the person just because they had added a reference to the game being a PS4 exclusive. And you do it all the time when it's related to Sony/PS4. Never when it's related to anything Xbox - you're often seen vehemently defending people in that case rather than utilizing the same critical eye you have with PlayStation.

Gol3m2883d ago

It's getting really scary that these multi account n4g users reply to their own posts.

kingdom182883d ago

Maybe he just wanted to see if it could be done?

rainslacker2883d ago

There's a "hey neat, look what I can do" factor involved. Sounds rather troublesome to me considering you'd need a highly unoptimized for the PS4 OS to manage it, which would just get in the way of the benefits of console, but not all games would require more than the PS4 offers.

I suppose it could be convenient as well.

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Sony Launches BAFTA Game Awards 2024 PlayStation Store Section for Nominees

Sony has launched a BAFTA Game Awards 2024 section on the PlayStation Store that lists the different games nominated this year.

Bathyj10h ago

They did.
It's just empty.

I kid, I kid. 🙂

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"Invincible" AAA Game Crowdfunding Campaign Launched by Skybound

Skybound Entertainment has launched the crowdfunding campaign for its AAA Invincible game with a minimum investment set at $100.

phoenixwing18h ago

These ppl are terrible. expecting gamers to pick up the dev costs with high as he'll initial investment. When they probably already have the funds considering they already hired a team of 30 and have the creator backing them.

Inverno15h ago

They seem to be crowdfunding the idea of a studio rather than an actual game. It's already at near half a million and there isn't even concept/any kind of proof of concept. People throwing so much money at something that'll most likely be too big for crowd funding alone and will have em partner up with a publisher.

PhillyDonJawn10h ago

I was just saying, they need to make this a game

-Foxtrot5h ago

Big IPs like this shouldn’t need crowdfunding

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Former Blizzard President Suggests Players Should Have Option to Tip Developers

Former Blizzard president Mike Ybarra recently suggested an interesting concept that has sparked a debate among gamers - the idea of being able to tip developers after completing a game.

LG_Fox_Brazil1d 19h ago

If I had a 100% way to be sure that this money would go to a fund or a reserve dedicated only to the guys who develop the games, be them designers, artists, programmers and so on, I could think about it.

But we all know that this 'tip' would only end up in a publisher's CEO pocket to buy a new yacht, so, no, I ain't tipping anyone anytime soon on this industry

neutralgamer199223h ago

Exactly these companies were raising money for good causes and gamers were donation and come to find out they are keeping a good chunk of be pie

PapaBop14h ago

Yeah tip your developer, 5% proceeds go to developer, 95% to the publisher or whoever. Isn't tipping for staff not making minimum wage? How about they just pay their developers properly and like you know, give them fair bonuses? Too much to ask from Blizzard these days, Kotick saw to that and is now laughing all the way to the bank.

MrDead23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

It's the t**ts at the top looking at ways to cut devs wages and get the players to tip them like waiting staff, and I'll guarantee a percentage is skimmed and kept by Activision Blizzard. This is 100% for shareholder and CEO playouts.

Popsicle23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

I have to agree with this. On the surface tipping devs sounds like a great idea, but in the end it leads to pay cuts and subsidization of pay. Tips then become an expectation or the devs “can’t make a living.” Lastly, especially in the US, tip culture has gotten out of control, and it serves as an excuse not to properly pay employees. Sounds good but doesn’t end well.

drizzom35m ago

@ Popsicle

I think your right on the nose with how much tipping has become rampant. Instead of it being a relationship directly between the customer and the developer or employee, it now has a middle man ingrained in the system. DoorDash is one example. It ends up becoming a metric where the company can measure 'just how much more money you are willing to part with' before raising the price on the main product.

1Victor20h ago

Uh so they’re trying triple dip or more we buy the game that they’re already withholding/cutting content for dlc we was told that season pass would help the developers thrive we felt for it.
Now on top of all that plus their sales bonus they want tips enough is enough whatever happens to you create/built a good game get a bonus for sales milestones you care about your game and community we reward you with more sales not for doing 3/4 of a game then save the other 1/4 for dlc and passes after

raWfodog18h ago

The 'tip' is me buying your game in the first place.

S2Killinit15h ago

Very well said. If it was possible to send the money to either the developer or some organization for the betterment of gaming, sure. But we all know that will not be the case.

Rynxie13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

No, it would go to those on the top. They will still fire developers, have a bunch of microtransactions, raise prices of games and so on.

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H91d 19h ago

So they eventually don't pay their workers and depend on our tips to pay them like the case with waiters!

Deeeeznuuuts23h ago

That kind of practice is only normal in the states, as far as I know anyway, what a backwards system

H922h ago

No it's as well in a every country that wants to amercanize

bloop20h ago

Ireland is literally the first stop across the pond and we don't have a tipping culture. The only establishments here that would expect a tip are the tourist haunts that Americans visit. Other than that, you might tip in a restaurant as a sign of gratitude for great service and waiting staff would be paid a full wage anyway.

Rebel_Scum14h ago

Tipping is not customary iin most countries dude. Get a passport lol.

Jin_Sakai1d 18h ago

Is this a joke? How about the big wigs giving up some of their pay for their hard working developers.

MrBaskerville1d ago

Maybe the CEO could earn his money based on tips.

mastershredder1d 18h ago

good god. The devs are not baristas dude. Total 1% ideals. Fing Chadosaurus.

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