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Why The Nintendo NX Should Be a Hybrid

— Nintendo Enthusiast:

Nintendo has been extremely careful not to talk about the NX until the anointed time. Due to the intense levels of silence and secrecy, rumors have been churning for a little over a year now. Interestingly enough, rumors of a new system appeared quite some time before the late Satoru Iwata first made mention of the console. Those rumors actually spoke of a potential hybrid system in the works.

While there is still next to nothing known about the Nintendo NX, the factor of it possibly being a hybrid still hasn’t been completely removed from the equation. Nothing like this has ever been done before. Nintendo is no stranger to introducing radical new ideas, so, not only is this right up its alley, but it could also be the most logical step for the company.

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Omnislashver362891d ago

I just don't agree. For the power of a PS4 it'd be near impossible to do as a handheld right now, not to mention costs would be through the roof. Why not just do a PS4 level console on 14nm FinFet and charge $299? So many people would buy it, and if you have good enough cross functionality with handhelds, you don't come off as someone trying to base all of your popularity on the handheld market, and desperate to merge functionality. It's the best of both worlds, and it comes at one DARING cost to Nintendo's current strategy. Admit that you're wrong about gaming and make a common sense console. Seriously. That's it.

Hell, they can even keep Wiimotes as a secondary function for motion play games and secondary controllers for multiplayer games- but they need to have a regular controller as the MAIN controller for single player.

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wonderfulmonkeyman2891d ago (Edited 2891d ago )

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Quick question.
The PS4 goes for around $350 new still, right?

Then how do you expect Nintendo to make any money by putting out a console at the same level for less money?
Especially if it's also got functionality as a hand-held, which is sure to make it cost more?

If you want Nintendo to charge less, then the only way that's happening is if the console's power is inbetween the PS4 and XBone.
There's no way around this unless you want Nintendo to use really crappy parts.

_-EDMIX-_2891d ago

"Then how do you expect Nintendo to make any money by putting out a console at the same level for less money?
Especially if it's also got functionality as a hand-held, which is sure to make it cost more?"

Because Handheld typically release with more power then the existing consoles at the time.

PSP was more powerful then PS2...

Its not uncommon for a handheld to be more poweful then the consoles on the current market, consider we have phones that are coming out that are near the power of PS4 soooooo not really impossible. I expect it to be near the power of current gen platform as 3DS was when it released. As to why Resident Evil Revelations was ported to the PS3 and 360.

"If you want Nintendo to charge less, then the only way that's happening is if the console's power is inbetween the PS4 and XBone." Like I stated, who is to say that isn't the case right now if its a handheld? PS4 and XONE also released almost 3 years ago bud, technology doesn't just stay at some stand still.

Omnislashver362891d ago

Well, that's part of the reason in waiting for 14nm FinFet, lower prices- also if Ninty launches in March of next year, the price of PS4 will likely be $299 on either 28 OR 14 nm process. That's almost a year from now. If Sony doesn't drop price, it's not because they won't profit at a lower price, it'll be because they just don't have to. Ninty on the other hand should price it at $299 if they can still profit at that price. They're behind and need an install base.

And I DON'T want them to do a handheld is the thing- They don't need to converge everything to the handheld market and come off desperate. They just need to do a common sense console. That's it. I was saying that a hybrid handheld console would cost too much. I'd expect something on the X1-PS4 scale to be upwards to $700-900, and still a bit weaker. Or $399 and FAR weaker. Just do a common sense regular home console at $299. Much better.

Concertoine2891d ago (Edited 2891d ago )

@EDMIX

That's not true at all. Handhelds might shoot for similar graphics, but they're rendering them at a much lower resolution than the consoles. Also even the Vita which was a powerhouse at the time if you compare games in the same series you'll see that while they look pretty similar, the scale is always toned way down. Look at Uncharted and Killzone on the Vita and you'll see.

3DS especially was no where near the 360/ps3 when it came out. It was around Gamecube levels of power at best, it only ran DKCR at 30 frames rather than 60 on the wii.

ChickeyCantor2888d ago

>The PS4 goes for around $350 new still, right?

Because they are making a profit and when the competition brings out their NEW console they are forced to lower the price.

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Ephex032891d ago (Edited 2891d ago )

There's nothing desperate about Nintendo focusing on the handheld market, that's where they are at their strongest. Sony abandoned the VITA and focused on the PS4 because it makes more sense, they control the console market so they double down on their strengths. Nintendo can't release a dedicated console mid-gen that's similar in specs to the Ps4, it would be suicide for them. Ps4 dominates the console space, and that's only going to be further reinforced when the NEO hits the shelves this christmas. It's much wiser for Nintendo to focus their efforts on the handheld market, since that's where they are strongest and, there's no competition it's also the safest.

pcz2891d ago

it doesnt matter what the format is, if it doesnt have full developer support.

i mean, even on N4G, check the wiiu tab where all the wiiu news is suppose to be, and there is little to no news. no news items about current or upcoming games. that is nintendo's problem- they havent created a community, they havent created a buzz. and even a few years ago, the wiiu section was the same. you know its bad when sony/microsoft news is the first article in the wiiu section

if nintendo cant make fans and gaming journalists excited and want to talk about the games and hardware in a POSITIVE way, they dont stand a chance

MisterManGuy2889d ago

Yeah, a hybrid would br stupid. Nintendo really needs is their own "Windows 10" so to speak. One platform, that's used across every device they put out. Same Is, same features, and largely the same software.

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FallenAngel19842891d ago (Edited 2891d ago )

I just don't see Nintendo making a handheld with the power of a PS4 anytime soon. Besides PS4 already does this "hybrid" concept via Remote Play through Vita, PSTV, certain Android smartphones, PC & Mac. I don't see how Nintendo could effectively top that level of flexibility.

Not to mention this would be very expensive. Developers would have to spend resources to make two versions of the same game on the same platform. With the rising costs of game development and growing irrelevance of Nintendo in the console market, I don't see that happening. That'd be too much a financial risk for many publishers to take.

When certain developers make a game on the console PS3 or PS4, they aren't required to make an accompanying handheld Vita version. That's always just an option, unlike it being a requirement for developers on NX if it were to supposedly be a hybrid console. In fact the way Sony currently does it just makes the idea seem less interesting if Nintendo were to make that the main appeal.

iNFAMOUZ12891d ago

big headed nintendo ignoring gamers cause they got all this money from the wii days, arrogant like crazy
all people want is a more powerful console that rivals the others, but nooooooooo *uck gamers

_-EDMIX-_2891d ago

All their developers under 1 roof.

They need to exit the console market warmly by having a device that can out to the TV. Their handheld is more successful long term then their consoles are. Its best they leave while they have the market.

12 million is a small market to cater to and I think its time they move on to focusing on their core market.

maxleresistant2891d ago

I agree with all this, but this is way more complicated than the video make i to be. The video avoid completely the technological aspect of the idea.
how can it be a handheld and home console if there is only one unit.

What the video describes is just Nintendo stopping to make home consoles and making a handheld that plugs into a TV instead.

deafdani2890d ago

If the handheld has Xbox One levels of power, and if it can synch with multiple game controllers, then by all intents and purposes it's both a home console and a handheld device.

maxleresistant2890d ago (Edited 2890d ago )

It can't have Xbox One level power.
It's like mobile gaming, yes some games are really pretty, but only because all the rest is scaled back, they are really limited in terme of size, AI, physics, possibilities, everything.

It's like saying the NX was a handheld that could run AC Syndicate graphics, but only if it was a special version of Syndicate that was an on rail shooter. Is that what we want out of a proper home console?

The best we can expect, and I mean, really the best, is a handheld that got the power level of a WiiU. Am I really insisting on the "AT BEST". But that means it won't be in the home console range, it will only be a new powerful handheld that you can put on your TV.

So that is why, the NX needs a secondary unit for the TV. ANyway, we'll know in a few months

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Two married costume designers share stories from a decade of traveling the globe with Nintendo.

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Bowser Is Canonically 34 Years Old

In a YouTube video showing Nintendo Switch owners how to create a Nintendo Account, Nintendo of America revealed that Bowser is canonically 34 years old.

jznrpg315d ago

I saw Bowser when I was a kid and now I’m older than him , sigh.

Brazz315d ago

Wow, i'm as old as Bowser!!

Stanjara315d ago (Edited 315d ago )

He looks 55 to me.

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Nintendo Is A Bad Company, But We Can't Help Loving Them Anyway

TG: “Most of us also grew up with Nintendo, likely forming a nostalgic connection with games that have long been crowned as our personal favourites. The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker was an experience that shaped my view on open world fantasy, and Super Mario 64 changed my life like it did for millions of others. These titles have earned their place in history, and remain loved to this day for so many worthwhile reasons. We replay them and beg for remasters all while delving into their worlds time and time again because they mean that much to us. It’s a shame then that the company behind them often kicks its own sweet darlings to the curb.”

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Magog324d ago

I never got the love for Nintendo games personally. The annoying vocalizations and ugly character designs do nothing for me.

Kosic322d ago

Don't forget the constant hand holding with tutorials. Learn this new ability by pressing Y, now prove that you can press Y 8 times before you can move on....

Tapani323d ago (Edited 323d ago )

Another very weird article.

Nintendo is a great company by almost all possible normal measures. The biggest one being: their own staff is happy, and they seem to be very happy, well compensated and retain rate is solid. They are also financially very stable, profitable, and cash rich, so shareholders love them.

Overall it is an extremely creative group of people, and their mission statement is fantastic as well "to put smiles on the faces of everyone we touch. We do so by creating new surprises for people across the world to enjoy together." The social impact is also massive, not to speak culturally. Additionally, they have a really strong core business, high customer retention rate and loyalty. Nintendo's reputation is extremely good, I think in the US alone they are 9th most reputable company, their customer service is better than the average company. Plus, the press gives them a pass, because they are Nintendo. But there's a reason why they do that, it's not "because they are Nintendo", there are more layers to the argument.

Then, then there's the random negative gamers online...and their "reputation" which is inside their heads. And their western ideas of how a Japanese company should behave or what they should do. But they have no right to ask a company to do anything for them, because they can vote with their wallets.

There's a small vocal community online who dislikes Nintendo for what they are, but then again, there's always a small vocal community that dislikes something.

Nintendo also disagrees with the Western world about IP, but most people call Westerners "hidoi!" when they emulate Tears of the Kingdom and do not experience it the way Nintendo wanted them (even if it is not the best visual way), because it is a matter of principle to them (Japanese are very much against anything close to plagiarism, and there are laws that are tight about creative works copying etc.)

The Western Braveheart "freedoom!" shouters need to understand that it is not an American company, nor they need to behave like one. They can have their own fights based on their principles (against emulation). And they very well may lose the battle with that and change, or find a new audience.

In the end, it is so very simple. Don't buy the products if you don't like a company, but there's no need to paint a picture that is unrealistic about Nintendo either.

MadLad323d ago

I hate virtually everything about their business practices, actually. Suing everybody for virtually anything, shooting down fan projects, games they never let devalue, their online infrastructure and how they handle BC.

They're lucky they make great games, because that's the only thing I feel they do right.

gold_drake323d ago

my issue with them, is the complete refusal to have decent tech for us.

and their odd censorship and lawsuits for modders.