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Pokémon Sun and Moon Cannot Be More of the Same

More information for Pokémon Sun and Moon is coming this week, and we hope they don't copy and paste the same formula. It's time for a change.

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sinspirit2907d ago (Edited 2907d ago )

I think it needs more interaction such as personally flying a pokemon to locations. Having more puzzle types. An item is stuck somewhere high? Control your Pidgey to fly and grab it. Stuff like that. Also, I miss the Emerald, Yellow, Crystal, etc rereleases that combines the two and added more content. Just do it right.

Grayshadow2907d ago

I'm not a fan of rereleases but that flying idea is good. Build on the same flying mechanics found in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire.

Yukes2906d ago

Agree that better exploitation of your Pokemon would be a nice idea. Of course it'll largely be more of the same, though, but hopefully refined. What's wrong with that? Why does everything have to revolutionise itself all of the time?

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Vegamyster2906d ago

Those ideas + I wouldn't mind them borrowing combat mechanics from to the Paper Mario/Luigi series to make battles more interactive, it'd also be nice to see a bigger emphasis on story, i'd rather you play through the perspective of a Ex-gym leader or something rather then another generic kid lol.

Sirk7x2905d ago

Unfortunately, even though the original fanbase has grown up, Nintendo is still making Pokemon for kids. Simple and to the point, to appeal to them. Makes me sad, I'd prefer a more complex game myself.

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DarkZane2907d ago

Time for a change? Don't fix what isn't broken. Nintendo keeps trying to innovate and it bit them in the *** with the Wii U and it will again with the NX.

Ruggadagod2906d ago

Nintendo doesn't even make Pokemon games, Gamefreak does. Nintendo is on their own with messing up their own consoles.

cyberwaffles2906d ago (Edited 2905d ago )

Nintendo is on a slippery slope heading downhill. Besides Super Smash Bros. and Metroid, I don't care for any of their games. They're too stuck in the past.

EDIT: Wait I forgot I like Fire Emblem. The other games are too cutesy for my age. I suppose the age demographic that Nintendo is aiming for is a younger and more casual audience. In this aspect I can see why they're still successful.

Mr_Writer852906d ago

Yet they broke Pokemon after G&S

Nathan_Hale532906d ago

i'd say after Platinum, as designs got really lazy and story is not to my liking.

Dan_scruggs2906d ago

OMG guys Nintendo should TOTALLY listed to GARYSHADOW of the prestigious Noobfeed journalism site. This man is truly a voice of the people. I mean just follow in the footsteps of Uncharted 4 and how it absolutely shattered the formula set by past Uncharted games... Oh wait.

ninsigma2906d ago

4 uncharted games vs 10 (in pairs) pokemon games. I love pokemon games but I would like to see them change things up a bit. They are basically the same formula since the originals. Only 4 uncharted games and they HAVE changed it up. Don't know how you can say it's exactly the same.

Dan_scruggs2906d ago

How dare you forget about Golden Abyss.

garrettbobbyferguson2906d ago

"And they have changed it up"

You're right. Incorporating more QTEs and zero interactivity cutscenes is changing it up.

The 10th Rider2906d ago

Well, and Pokemon has been around for over twice as long as Uncharted. 4 games over 9 years for Uncharted. Pokemon releases two at once and has been doing their remakes/combined versions, outside of that, though, they're on their 8th combo-release over 20 years.

If anything, it speaks to the universal appeal of the gameplay that kids still adore it today. I too would like to see some changes, but you can't deny they have the core concepts down to a tee.

cyberwaffles2905d ago (Edited 2905d ago )

Most of the Nintendo franchizes have been milked beyond recognition. Uncharted 4 is suppose to be ND's last Uncharted game. They know that all good things must come to an end and its better to invest in new IPs and new ideas than riding a one trick pony.

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ninsigma2906d ago

I didn't forget but it wasn't developed by naughty dog so it doesn't count towards whether or not naughty dog has changed things up over the course of their titles.

Bruh2906d ago

People have WAY too much expectations from Game Freak. It'll literally be the same with some minor tweaks and improvements to the formula. I personally want a MUCH better story that should be suited in an RPG, but it won't happen. It'll be ONCE again lol beat gyms, beat Elite 4, capture legendary rule the world.

aquaticDonut2906d ago (Edited 2906d ago )

It can and it will. This is Nintendo. They don't like making changes to their core series.

Kalebninja2906d ago

Lol what? Go take a look at previous Mario, Zelda, and Metroid games and then think about what you just said.

The 10th Rider2906d ago

Dude, Galaxy, 3D World, 64 and Sunshine are like the exact same game. Mario hasn't changed at all over the past 20 years. Not to mention Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword are all as indistinguishable as Minish Cap, Spirit Tracks, and a Link Between Worlds.

^That's sarcasm, by the way.

deafdani2906d ago (Edited 2906d ago )

It's not black / white. Nintendo has some series where they aren't afraid of experimentation and change stuff drastically from one entry to another, to various degrees of success: Yoshi, Kirby, Zelda, Star Fox, Metroid and 3D Mario games.

Then they have other game series where they usually just polish up and build upon their predecessors, without changing the core mechanics much, if at all: Mario Kart, Pokémon, Smash Bros, 2D Mario games, etc.

cyberwaffles2905d ago

Some of those changes lead to bad ideas. The recent Metroid games have been garbage compared to the handheld sidescrollers and Metroid Prime games (although the third Metroid Prime was terrible.)

Mario I suppose is here to stay. He's the mascot of all platformers and they can be fun to play every once and a while.

Zelda, as cool as the series has been, is really no different than other hack n' slash/RPG exploration games that are out there. I could just as easily play Witcher, or Diablo, even the Dark Souls games and have a more rewarding and more in-depth sword game.

I just see Nintendo falling behind trying to stay so close to their mascots. They were cool back in the 80's and 90's but people move on. These retro characters will get played out eventually just like Sonic and many other yesteryear games that were once popular.

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The Best Games Similar to Pokemon for PlayStation

There are many worlds out there brimming with wondrous creatures ready to help you on your adventure beyond Pokemon.

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LG_Fox_Brazil32d ago

Temtem is actually really good as a single player experience or as a co-op game. Played the shit out of it when it released

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Pokémon Gen 10 Release Date Predictions: Are New Pokémon Games In 2024?

Even if Pokémon Scarlet and Violet have not yet completed their first anniversary, it is possible to predict exactly when Gen 10 is arriving.

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Pokemon Doesn't Need to Sue Palworld, It Needs to Get With the Times

The Nerd Stash: "There's been a lot of talk about Pokemon and Palworld recently, but if anything, Pokemon's new competition should be a sign to change."

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ChasterMies84d ago

Fortunately for Nintendo, the legal team is separate from Game Freak’s development team.

NotoriousWhiz83d ago

Unfortunately for us, as their legal team seems to be more competent than Game Freak's development team.

gold_drake84d ago (Edited 84d ago )

they do tho .. IF there is something to sue for. IP infringement is such a delicate thing.

but absolutely agree on the change

GoodGuy0984d ago

That, have longer dev time, and absolutely get rid of Nintendo as the exclusive platform. Imagine a AAA pkmn game on current consoles or next generation.

But money, they'll make billions with little effort.

badz14983d ago

you know that's never gonna happen

FinalFantasyFanatic83d ago

Gamer Freak, Creatures and Nintendo all have a stake in the Pokemon franchise, Nintendo especially will never let them go, I don't know how Creatures or Game Freak feels about it. Plus, the other two don't have a financial incentive to ditch Nintendo, they make mega bucks regardless. Although I think Nintendo should help Game Freak out more since they're clearly struggling, other they'll all just have to accept longer dev times and bigger gaps between games, or maybe just make some cheaper low-tier games in-between.

shinoff218384d ago

Idk yall. I'd take a Pokémon jrpg over a Pokémon with guns, online play etc. Plus wasn't Pokémon mobile pretty fking big like 4 years ago then covid hit.

--Onilink--83d ago (Edited 83d ago )

Even Scarlet/Violet had sold 24million as of early November (and undoubtedly sold even more during the Holidays), its not like they are currently suffering.

Yes, there are plenty of things I would like Gamefreak to do better, and yes I happened to like Palworld, but not because its a Pokemon clone, because its not, but because its a good survival game, something that I have zero interest for the mainline Pokemon games to become.

Most publications keep bringing up these topic ls just for clicks, because clearly the game is your typical survival game (most who do well on PC) with some Pokemon sprinkled in and not a Pokemon competitor, the core gameplay loop is clearly just Ark with dinosaurs swapped for Pokemon like creatures

And again, while I’m enjoying the game itself, I hope it doesnt set a new precedent for what we expect from game devs these days because, based on their other games, this developer really seems to basically just try to go as close as possible to ripping off other games without getting into trouble and then not really following up on those projects as promised (Craftopia players seem particularly angry).

I doubt they ever expected the discourse around this game to reach this level of popularity to push those insane sales numbers, and they actually take the opportunity to increase the quality of their work

FinalFantasyFanatic83d ago (Edited 83d ago )

I'm going to say something somewhat controversial, the last set of Pokemon games weren't that bad, it wasn't a great game, but a good game if we ignore the performance issues (and I personally didn't have many bugs).

They just need more interesting towns and NPCs (give them interesting dialogue, there's literally no reasons to talk to NPCs), interesting areas/locations (like the sunken ship and Bellsprout Tower), and some decent side quest, there isn't really any interesting side quests in those games, and fix the barely there lore for the game (Idk even know what was going on with those 4 "legendary Pokemon"). And maybe add less new Pokemon into the next game so they can transition more of the older Pokemon into 3D.

I think Scarlet/Violet had the potential to go from a good game to a great game if they implemented most of those ideas, but they also needed more development time to optimise the game as well.

Profchaos83d ago

Yeah agree id take a remake of red in the style of the links awakening remake any day of the week

Profchaos83d ago

No they don't I don't want any of the gameplay anywhere near Pokemon the only link between them is the idea of Pokemon except there's guns you enslave humans and Pokemon and there's a survival aspect.

Pokemon is fairly family friendly can't see Nintendo going ok let's give them m16s and slaughter each other

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