Why Sony Won't Deploy PS4 Exclusives on PC

Push Square: "Microsoft melted the web with its Quantum Break announcements yesterday. Unfortunately for Remedy, the forthcoming time-shifting affair got nudged to the side, as platform politics ruled the day. For those of you that missed it, the Redmond firm confirmed that the release would be coming to the PC day-and-date with the Xbox One. Those that pre-order the game will get both versions for free. Not a big deal, right?"

[Neonridr]

Of course not, Sony doesn't have their own OS that is in hundreds of millions of PCs around the world. This is pure business. More money, plain and simple. Why wouldn't they want to sell more copies of their games? Strange that people would think they would want to sell less.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

They would like to sell more copies of their games, but that isn't really a must when their console and their network service(s) are selling and making them more money. Devs and publishers as long as they get their money back and reach the targeted amount of units sold, they don't have to worry. Everything else after that is a bonus. Sony and Nintendo have a console to sell and fans to please for choosing them. Sure they might share one game once in a while, but most of them? Talk about bitch slapping your fans that thought they could play your games in your console.

TLoU manage to sell 7 million alone(It should be more by now), and that was only one console. It outsold Bioshock Infinite in 3 consoles and even other 3rd party haven't managed to reach those numbers, and don't get me started with Grand Turismo series... So having exclusives in multiple consoles doesn't necessarily mean more sales.

[Griever]

I agree; Sony would only create problems for its consoles by releasing first party games on the PC. They may get some more money from the software sales on PC but they will lose a lot more from the decline in hardware sales as there would less reason to buy a Sony console.

On the other hand, Microsoft can benefit either way; they can earn the money from Xbox or from Windows Store. However, even though it may be the same for Microsoft, it is not the same for Xbox One. Xbox One will continue to lose the purpose of its existence if everything it offers is also available on the PC.

It seems Xbox hardware is not the focus of Microsoft anymore. They seem to have given up on pushing Xbox One hardware sales and are more concerned with pushing Windows store and software sales. They are going up against steam now by releasing everything on PC. The worst fears seem to be becoming true that Xbox in its traditional form will cease to exist after the losses and defeat of three consecutive generations.

[dirkdady]

What people have to realize both Sony and Microsoft are doing things that benefits whatever their strategic goal is.

Sony, more specifically the playstation divisions first party world wide studios is to beef up ps4's library to make it a differentiator from the competition. There is no(very little) strategic value in releasing on PC. Sony even sold off its Sony Online game division not that long ago.

While Microsoft is desperately as a company trying to convert en mass the pc user base to windows 10 even if it means they have to let their competitor Steam carry their games.

[nix]

Sony's plan since the PS3 has always been to own the living room. Remember those "It does everything" commercials? They've always said that PS3 is a multimedia machine. They even let you install Linux.

This generation, Sony straight forward came out announcing themselves as a gaming console - #4thegamers. Surprisingly it's working wonders for them. No one knows why it's selling so well. Even Sony is trying to find out why.

Having said that, Sony would rather have their machines occupying the living room than the competitors. That's why Sony can't afford to release their best games on other platforms because that will give ppl no reason to buy PlayStations.

[Eonjay]

Sony doesn't have to. But Sony will probably have their streaming service on PC before the end of the gen.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

There isn't a definite reason as of why Ps4 is selling this much. It is selling for so many reasons. They might not have expected this much sales in this short time. That's another thing.

The ganes ultimately is why people are buying the console, 3rd party and exclusives. Play with friends, follow trends, etc. This is not the time to be sharing its big guns with other platform when they can easily get revenue back from their own fanbase

[donthate]

I think what people are missing is that MS isn't just trying to sell more copies of the game, but introduce you to stay on their platform. If you game on Windows, you are more likely to buy an Xbox for your living room when that content can be shared across.

If this works out for MS, Sony might have to follow suit.

[Eonjay]

@donthate

Exactly. Actually Sony is already moving in that direction with things like PSNow. The streaming service is just another platform for them to make money off of. At the end of the day, both companies are looking for new places to put their gaming content.

[Rookie_Monster]

Sony don't own a Platform like Windows 10 that MS does...that is why. Heck, Sony sold their Viao PC hardware years ago and is out of the PC business entirely.

I mean, how can anyone criticized MS when they are supporting the platform they owned? That is like hating on Sony if they suddenly start supporting VITA with more games.

This argument is rediculous, tbh.

AND the population that owns a PC rig that is capable of playing Quantum Break is like .001% and it is a non-factor really it only gets magnified on gaming forums.

[TFJWM]

@donthate "If you game on Windows, you are more likely to buy an Xbox for your living room when that content can be shared across."

Umm no if someone is a PC gamer they are more likely to buy a PS4 to get games they can't get otherwise. I had almost pulled the trigger for the One on Black Friday and was definitely going to get one this year. But now I have no reason to since I will just get all the games on PC.

[Utalkin2me]

@Rookie_Monster

Software is not a platform. A platform is something that runs software. These console kids are something else i tell you.

Btw, 67% of 125 million steams users has a Pc capable of running Qb which uses directx 12, which is far from .001%. People will spout anything to fit their thinking.

[iiorestesii]

MS have prioritized promoting this game above promoting the X1. Thats what I take. Everyone expects this to become a standard but I think it will be viewed as an exception in the long run, and viewed at as MS doubling down on QB specifically. Mere blog fodder.

[Griever]

@Donthate

Sure, sure. You remind me of when MS announced DRM, used game restriciton and always online. Xbox fanboys were defending it claiming that Sony will do the same or they will lose developer support. Look how it went in teh end.

Just because MS likes to shoot itself in teh foot frequently does not means Sony will follow suit. They did not become leader in teh gaming industry by doing that. PS4 is Sony's cash cow and they will not hurt it in any way. MS on the other hand does not cares about Xbox One anymore. It has lost three consecutive generations and suffered billions of dollars of losses during the past 15 years. They are done with Xbox consoles and that is why they are releasing their first-party software on PC.

[Rookie_Monster]

@Utalkin2me,

"Btw, 67% of 125 million steams users has a Pc capable of running Qb which uses directx 12, which is far from .001%. People will spout anything to fit their thinking."

Where are you getting that bogus numbers from?

Here is the latest Valve findings.

http://www.cinemablend.com/...
Steam Survey: Most PC gamers have weaker PCs than PS4, Xbox One.
"Valve released a new survey for August detailing who is using what and how much. While a lot of the numbers aren't very surprising, the majority of the 50 million or so users of Steam seem to be slightly underpowered compared to what the next-gen consoles will be packing."

And

http://blogjob.com/oneangry...
Only 34% Of Steam Users Run Their Games At 1080p

Don't get confuse of total numbers of Steam users on Windows 10 and DX12 and them having a capable PC rig capable of playing high-end games. LOL

[gangsta_red]

@Griever

"It seems Xbox hardware is not the focus of Microsoft anymore."

Ridiculous statement when the games are still available on Xbox One.

"The worst fears seem to be becoming true that Xbox in its traditional form will cease to exist..."

You are seriously over exaggerating. No one is running out in stampedes and buying a PC now that QB has announced coming to PC too. The people who own an Xbox or are planning on purchasing one can still enjoy every game MS puts out for that platform.

[Utalkin2me]

@Rookie_Monster

http://n4g.com/news/1784792...

Btw its funny you use a article from over 2 years ago...ROFLMAO

Then you go on to post a blog article about statistics from last year....Get out here kid.

[Rookie_Monster]

@ Utalkin2me,

Your link shows:

Steam Survey – 17% Of Steam Users Running Win10, 52% Owning NVIDIA GPU, 63% Owning DX12 System

LoL, that surveys is pretty much the same as what I have been put out....where does it show that these statistics equals High-end PC rig? Owning DX12 and NVIDIA GPU means what actually?

Again, don't confuse with People owning DX12 and NVIDIA GPU with a Gaming rig capable of playing High end Games like the requirements needed for games like Quantum Break. DX12 supports Nvidia GeForce 400-, 500-, 600-, 700-, and 900-series graphics cards, GTX Titan series card. Minimum requirements for Quantum Break is a 900 series card. Think about that for a second.

Heck, my friend's computer got windows 10 installed and an old weak NVIDIA GPU with DX12 capabilities..and can't run even Skyrim decently on it. LoL

Thanks for reiterating my point. :)

[Utalkin2me]

OMG dude seriously. Stop making yourself look like a idiot dude. You're posting old links to no relative blogs and articles. Then in your latest post you prove my facts for me.

"Steam Survey – 17% Of Steam Users Running Win10, 52% Owning NVIDIA GPU, 63% Owning DX12 System "

Ok lets break this down. So if 17% of people have Win10 with DX12, that comes with it correct? Cause you have to have Win10 to have DX12.

But 63% owning a DX12 system, so thats people that is capable of running DX12 games. So dont you get it confused.

So if that was the case then there would be 63% of people owning Win10 too, right? But thats not the case. I higher precentage has DX12 gpu then owning Win10.

Just shows as i stated before, not alot of people have upgraded to windows 10. Hence the reasoning of MS approach to release on PC too.

[fiveby9]

It is my understanding that at least initially the consoles were sold at a loss or near break even. Like your mobile phone, the real money is in services and software sold for the given device(s). Perhaps MS is trying to diversify their brand and focus on the store. They have an XBOX app built into Win10 now. Seems like the approach. MS wants to sell software and services regardless of whether it is on X1 or PC. Why put all your eggs in one basket?

[Rookie_Monster]

@ Utalkin2me

"Ok lets break this down. So if 17% of people have Win10 with DX12, that comes with it correct? Cause you have to have Win10 to have DX12."

Dude..I never mentioned anything regarding Windows 10 needed for DX12 capable cards. You just proofed my point in that older cards like those 400 -600 Nvidia GTX that are capable of DX12 are COUNTED on the same survey. MY friend has a 500 series NVIDIA GPU that came with his computer and has no desire to pay a large sum of money to upgrade his GPU card or ram needed to run modem games like Quantum Break. Millions like him are on the same boat.

Also, speaking of windows 10, that is needed to Play MS games like Quantum Break so on essence, having a Powerful enough GPU is only part of the equation.

That is the point I am trying to make. Get it in your head.

[Utalkin2me]

@Rookie_Monster

Again stop making yourself look stupid. Directx 12 supported gpu's only go back to the 800 series. Not the 500 series...I mean at least come at me with some facts instead of spouting non sense.

[TFJWM]

@Utalkin2me "Again stop making yourself look stupid. Directx 12 supported gpu's only go back to the 800 series. Not the 500 series"

Sorry but DirectX 12 support actually goes back to some 400 cards. You were going good till then thou

http://www.geforce.com/hard...

[Rookie_Monster]

@ Utalkin2me,

What TFJWM said. :D

Now, who is making who look stu..d again and spouting non sense. LOL

[XisThatKid]

It be completely ridiculous to do so whithout any other foothold in PC besides friendly co existence like how it is now. Besides They alreaady have another platform to market not only that but a potential revolution why support an entirely other platform that's doing just fine on it's own and supported by its competition as well. The fact that Sony aids and puts out 3rd and second party exclusives on PC is more than enough in most cases. Also keep in mind they would be splitting production costs and workforce when building and maintaining servers and network infrastructure it just would be silly for them to do so. Sony is a console brand and honestly I feel they should stay that way at least for now. I'm sure if there was money to made more than lost on it they would have done it by now.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Agreed. They have less incentive to do such a thing.

[Army_of_Darkness]

Most Playstation gamers have/ or will get a Playstation console, so really what would be the point in releasing a PC version??

[clouds5]

I agree but I don't think sony can repeat the ps3. So many amazing exclusive titles on one system! I bought a ps3 after the ps4 got released and played amazing exclusives on it for over half a year and nothing else (I play mainly on my pc).
The ps4 has nothing in comparison so far. Only a bunch of remakes and maybe bloodborn? I'd play that one game but that isn't really anything new... just a twist on the souls series which started on the ps3. As a second system the ps4 has nothing to offer atm. And nothing can replace the pc for me because it has the best exclusives for me (blizzard...).

[mark_parch]

if sony had their own OS in hundreds of millions of PCs they would be doing exactly the same thing FACT

[AndrewLB]

Bioshock infinite sold over 11 million as of June, 2015.

http://www.gamesindustry.bi...

[Utalkin2me]

@SirJoJo

Software can not be ran on it's own, it has to have a platform in order to run. So in order to be a platform it also has to function by itself. Software can not do that. Once it is ran on anykind of hardware, that makes it a platform. Until then it is not. All you have to do is google "what does platform mean". This is not a matter of opinions, its facts. You can refer to your software as a platform all you want, but that doesn't technically make it one.

@TFJWM
Im talking being able to run all DX12 features. Sure older gpus are "supported". But will be lacking in DX12 features.

[Utalkin2me]

@Neonridr

Hundreds of millions of PC's? Thought these games was limited to windows 10 only. I stand corrected if im wrong. And not only that, QB has to have directx 12 to work on PC. Alot of people still dont have a directx 12 capable gpu yet.

And btw, Sony could release their games on PC if they wanted too. And nothing MS could do about it, cause they dont own PC.

[Neonridr]

Pretty sure most Windows 7/8 users can also upgrade to Windows 10 if they wish.

I am merely pointing out the fact that MS represents both sides of the coin. Games that sell on PC also make them money.

They don't own PC, but they own the OS that goes into them.

[Utalkin2me]

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Have you seen statically what PC gamers make up of the PC community? I can tell you now its not hundreds of millions. Between windows 10 and directx 12 only, i bet you cut your consumer base in half.

As it is right now, by steam statistic's. Only 29% have upgraded to windows and 67% have a directx 12 gpu. Thats out of 125 million created accounts.

[dcbronco]

@Utalkintome

Odd you would use the word only when referencing PC DX12 users. That 67% of 125 million players is more than the total current generation console total. Even if you use Xbox One twice. If people believe developers would go exclusively with PS4 because of a 40 million install base, then that same developer would have to be stupid to not consider adding PC.

This is another one of those areas where console gamers are their own worse enemy. Their need to expect developers to sacrifice their own best interest at the altar of console A is ridiculous. It's why so many have turned to mobile. Console gamers are so self-destructive.

Developers that take advantage of a completely x86 landscape by using all platforms will continue to make games for years to come. Those that narrow their focus on one platform will find themselves on history's trash heap with many others that disappeared long ago. If you aren't getting money from someone, go with as many platforms as possible.

[Utalkin2me]

@dcbronco

I didnt realize it was going to be 67%. But directx 12 is not going to do you any good unless you have windows 10, hence the 29%.

The point that is being missed, is that for each Xbox1 console in the household could have much greater benefit. Such as live subscriptions, other software sales, peripheral sales and the list could go on. There is a much bigger picture then 1 said game sale.

[Angel911]

Yeah but you need their OS to play games on PC.

They created PC platform, but yes, they don't own it coz it's a open platform now fr everyone to use.

Sony won't release their big selling games on PC coz they will have to share profit with Steam nd all coz they don't have their own store front on PC like MS.

[Utalkin2me]

@Angel911

Did you just say MS created the PC? My god you console kids need to really stop commenting on Pc stuff when you have no clue of what you're talking about. At least use google before spouting off non sense. And as i have said before. You dont need windows to play only windows games. There has been walk around for ages. Sure at first you might not be able to play them. Until someone writes software and such to do so.

Actually i think im going to screenshot this comment and put it in one of my montages on youtube.

But anyways, Sony shares profits with developers now as it is, just as MS does. It would be nothing to start a steam type program with Sony exclusives if they wanted too, just as MS is doing.

[darthv72]

Utalkin... you are better off just conceding that there are more PC's with the potential to upgrade to windows 10 and run this game if they so desire than PS4 & XB1 combined. It's a very easy fact to accept.

That doesn't mean it will happen but you can save yourself the headache by saying it could happen.

MS does own the PC OS market (not the PC market in general but the OS side). Linux isnt likely to run QB nor no mans sky nor SFV nor whatever other games coming out that are console/PC hybrid.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Your right...MS doesn't own PC, but Neo is saying they own the OS in millions of PCs, not that they own rights to all PC's regardless of OS.

I'm mean...no where is he saying this solely based on PC in general.

In fact...why did you say "Hundreds of millions of PC's? Thought these games was limited to windows 10 only"

Neo states this bud..." Sony doesn't have their own OS that is in hundreds of millions of PCs around the world"

Where is he saying its not limited to the OS?

He states it RIGHT THERE! "their own OS that is in"

That is "in" that is "in hundreds of millions of PCs"

Your not wrong in what your saying, but your incorrect in saying that Neo either stated it or meant that as its clear what he is saying what MS actually owns.

The OS in those PC's, not all PC's in general.

[rainslacker]

Most GPU's made in the last 5 years or so are DX12 compatible. Some features may be disabled, however, the low level access routines are available.

I'd imagine that any GPU that is below the min specs for QB would not have the proper hardware to handle an integral part of the rendering pipeline...which is why it's min specs are so high for it.

The only reason Win10 is required is because you can't get DX12 on earlier OS's, as MS once again is trying to force the upgrade among gamers using DX. Hopefully this time, they won't force the upgrade again before games start taking advantage of current iterations like they usually do.

I'd imagine the people without DX12 capable GPU's aren't the primary target audience for games like QB.

[AndrewLB]

There are 125 million active steam users and according to their hardware survey, over 50% now contain graphics cards as fast or faster than a GTX 750ti... which is slightly more powerful than the PS4's GPU.

So yea, that's more than all PS4 and Xbone owners combined. And almost all those cards are DX12 compatible.

[hiawa23]

I agree 100%. Well stated....

[joeorc]

Neonridr + 2h ago

"They don't own PC, but they own the OS that goes into them."
Well not true, Sony instead could go SteamOS instead,

Android OS & SteamOS both USE Vulkan Graphics Api and since Sony does not make PC games, or PC hardware anymore why make software for a Windows OS based PC when SteamOS Linux based PC's use a Api & OS they are more invested into than windows OS.

[solar]

as i said in this QB thread, PC gamers do not care about console games. It has been proven for how many years now? and dont spin this as a "Sony games are soooo good" argument. PC gamers dont buy $400 dollar consoles, we buy $400 dollar GPU's.

[Perjoss]

Smart gamers who can afford to will game on many systems in order to get the best from all sources. For example the only platform i do not play games on is tablets/phones as i dont like touch screen controls, but everything else is valid.

[solar]

it is true. shloobmm3. as much as you want to say we do, WE. DO. NOT.

[Clunkyd]

That explains why AAA 3rd party games tend to sell a whole lot better on consoles. While PC gamers focus more on indies, MOBAS, RTS games.

[rainslacker]

You don't care about the games or you don't care about the console hardware?

I've seen plenty of people who seem to care about the games themselves. What about SE now releasing a lot of their once console bound games on Steam, and them selling well? What about a lot of Sega or Namco games, or those who begged for Halo and GeOW to be released on PC?

It's fine if you don't care about the hardware, but to say PC gamers don't care about games is not really something to be prideful about. If PC gamers truly believe that console games aren't worth playing, then why are they spending so much on getting things like AC, COD, Arkham, etc. The start, and primary focus of all those games was and still is consoles.

Sony games are good overall. Many of them are better than some of the more popular series of games out there which sell huge numbers. We could use examples which point either way on quality, but do you honestly believe that so many millions of people respect Sony's output just because we're console peasents? Do you think games like Halo, GeOW, TR are worthy but not things like UC, TLOU, or GOW? If you do think that, then you are just biased, and not what I'd call a gamer because you look at hardware more than you do at games.

I assume you to be a PC gamer based on the tone of your comment. But you aren't exactly painting PC gamers in a good light, nor do I believe you represent them as a whole.

[solar]

@rainslacker

of course, you bring into the slow kid argument, implying i am some sort of fanboy. and prideful? its video games, its electronics. pride? this is what you are prideful of? video games you have nothing to do with but popping them into a machine and pressing play?

[rainslacker]

If not pride, then you sure do bring in a lot of hate with your condescending comment. The pride seems to be more that you find yourself to be a better gamer, because you prefer one thing over another....so yes, you are guilty of being a fan boy, just for PC instead of consoles.

Trying to be dismissive of the quality of games on another platform, because you believe them to be not worthy of your own preferred platform is you trying to put down others, and usually people that do that have pride in things which are completely superficial...such as a piece of plastic or hunk of electronics.

Good job at not countering any of my other points about why games that sell well on console also sell well on PC, or that there are plenty of instances of PC gamers asking for console bound games.

Does your pride not allow you to answer those questions because you have no rational answer which actually backs up your initial comment? That's the typical case when it comes to deflecting an argument which completely refutes your own.

I'm personally not prideful about being primarily a console gamer. I'm prideful of being a gamer. Where and how I play is rather moot to the platform I choose to play on, or the ease with which I do so.

[solar]

Prideful to play video games...you have a lot to learn slow kid.

[joeorc]

@Neonridr + 1h ago
"Of course not, Sony doesn't have their own OS that is in hundreds of millions of PCs around the world."

Well yes & No

No as in PC's , but yes as in the "Android OS"

Sony is among many companies in the open handset alliance, the core base along with google in developing the Android OS.

Sony has added many of its own functionality and software on
Android OS in helping like other companies has for the open source OS.

[Why o why]

'More money, plain and simple. Why wouldn't they want to sell more copies of their games?'

Neonridr

So why have any full exclusives at all then....I mean you can go one extreme step further and release halo on the playstation....more money, plain and simple

Truth is there's a reason MS doesnt do it and thats because they still need some usp's to sell the console they manufactured. The damage control has been on a high level since some xbox fans expressed their concerns not just sony trolls trolling. The difference between QB and the other xbox games were they were announced as xb1/pc games from the get go. That has angered some xb1 gamers

[Neonridr]

I'm a PC/PS4 gamer, so obviously I am ecstatic that the game is coming to PC right away.

Strange that while you are playing a game you would actually care if you are exclusively playing this or if others can play it as well.

Why worry so much? Play the game. MS makes money, Remedy makes money, IP is secured that way. Win-Win.

Besides, the X1 version gives you the most goodies if you preorder it, so why wouldn't you want to order it there anyways?

Unless you are that small fraction that own a gaming PC and X1 as well, how does this news affect anyone in the slightest?

[joeorc]

You know there was going to be trouble in the direction of the xbox as a platform when all 13 of the Xbox founders are no longer there putting in time and experience into making Xbox the platform it was envisioned to be.

It was about making a single console , with directX to make a system for gamers by gamers. What happed now is that message has been diluted.

Its now just another extension of the "windows OS platform" Xbox was supposed to be its own platform inside of Microsoft's company. Slowly but surely its really lost it identity.

The founders if Xbox formation some with 22 & 18 years at Microsoft has left outright End fries left because what he felt was as soon as this project becomes big , the higher ups take over and make it their own. Instead of letting the people that got it there in the first place keep it going in development going forward.

Goal was a console, not a freaking Media center PC that "plays games also"

Mind you all the original founders now who invested time , passionate invested hours on end , pitching to go to bat for the Xbox as a platform has all left.

The heart and soul of the Xbox ad a platform in Microsoft is what many gamers view is gone!

[Why o why]

Neonridr

you forgot the not so 'small fraction' of pc gamers who may have purchased a console and still can if MS keeps the xbox's best game on it exclusively. It's a massive market. Why are these pc guys forgotten like they don't exist. I was a pc gamer but wanted a console.....Don't you think exclusive titles, not on pc, could have factored into my decision making process. Yes, its win win for ms but not the box IF all of its exclusives were on pc also.

It seems some people are only thinking from the standpoint of customers already gained and not potential customers

[uth11]

The purpose of exclusives is primarily to sell hardware, not make the most money by themselves.

What MS is doing is trying to boost Windows 10 at the expense of the Xbox brand.

[Neonridr]

so would you not buy the game on XB1 because someone else can play it on their PC?

[joeorc]

@Neonridr + 4m ago
"so would you not buy the game on XB1 because someone else can play it on their PC?"

I think many with this exact same rebuttal is still missing the main point, the current CEO of the Xbox platform may feel the heart ,& Soul of the Xbox as a platform is solid, but the higher ups at Microsoft are making choices that show to some gamers that the Xbox as a platform is not geared to be more of a priority over windows OS.

I mean picture the main point is in multiplayer gaming that requires gold sub. Will PC gamers not have to pay like Xbox gamers may have to do for the exact same game?

With moves like this you do have to Question such.

[uth11]

@Neon- No, I would not even buy an Xbox at all because most of its games are coming to PC.

[Neonridr]

@uth11 - ok fair enough. If you don't have a gaming PC, then go spend $500+ so that you can enjoy these games on PC.

For the people who do own an Xbox 1, which is the main focus here, I don't see why a game on PC should affect them.

What are you upset about? That the game is no longer exclusive to the Xbox One? Lots of PS4 console exclusive games exist on the PC as well. SF V, The Witness, Firewatch, SOMA, etc.. these games happily can be purchased on PC as well as PS4. Nobody seems to mind. Does it mean that the games are any less good because they are on PC as well? Hardly.

[uth11]

@Neon- I'm not upset, I just feel like I woke up in an alternative universe.

I mean this is N4G where practically everyday pointless listwars erupt in the comments over system exclusives, and console exclusives that appear on PC always get disqualified. Obviously people care a lot that games are fully exclusive and not on PC too. Or I should say they did care until yesterday, it seems.

Also being N4G there's always complains about greedy companies and gamers getting ripped off by everything publishers do. Yet now all I'm reading is how happy people are that Microsoft is making more money.

It is just... weird! That is all.

[Moe-Gunz]

I don't understand why this is so hard to comprehend for some. Personally this doesn't affect me as my PC is strickly for video editing and I won't game on it. However the complaint is simple:

If you own a PC you still will need to buy a PS4 to play Uncharted, Bloodborne, Horizon, Dreams, etc. The same can't be said for the X1. So they're making it less of a reason to buy one. Now if you already own one it doesn't bother you, but there is something to be said for when you feel like "the only way to play this game is to buy this specific console". For example, the only way you can play Smash Bros is to get a Nintendo console. Exclusives set an identity.

Again it doesn't affect me, but I can understand the complaints.

[UKmilitia]

the thing is MS and Sony dont work the same way.
on console MS gets money,on pc MS gets money due to licensing of many areas(game,software,direct x etc)
Sony would just get the game licensing money)

that being said i think it would be amazing for Sony to allow some of its older games to be on the pc ,im not talking current releases but imagine what some of the ps3 and early ps4 games would look like if devs remade them with higher textures.

im still in shock about the recent games coming to pc because some of them was system sellers imo and im not sure whats being said at these MS meetings but it cant be great.
Really hoping MS get a good break because as much as i love my ps4 i think Sony is starting to slack and just happy to ride along the track without anyhting ecxtra special and focusing on VR.

[Kidmyst]

I have held off buying an Xbone because I stay busy with games on PS4 but Quantun Break looked promising. With it on PC now I can play it without spending extra $$$ on another console. Save that money to for PSVR even.

[Apollosupreme]

It would make no sense for Sony to toss it's games into Microsoft's or Apple's ecosystems.

[hells_supernova]

This is very true but Sony could release a Steam competitor and sell everyones games to PC gamers along with their own exclusives.

If I was Sony thats what I would do. Open up the Playstation platform to the biggest gaming population in the world

[XanderZane]

You're absolutely right. Quantum Break selling to 20 million XB1 users or Quantum Break selling to 20 million + another 100 million PC gamers. That's money right there. Because it's Win10 exclusive, PC gamers will have to get Win10. It's really no different then Sony marketing their Blu-Ray media on the PS3 first so they could get people to buy into Blu-Ray instead of HD-DVD. PS3 was marketed as a Blu-Ray player first and many, many consumers actually bought it as a Blu-Ray player first and a game console 2nd. It's a business for both Sony & Microsoft and they are here to many money while trying to satisfy the consumers as well.

[Bebedora]

That sounds about right...too sensible for an answer. I think Sony could calf some gold with PC games, but that would give MS some money in the bank, more than it would profit Sony. All in all, I see a very simple equation here.

[Cueil]

there is no extra cost for Sony to put their games on PC aside for developing for multipul setups... it's actually kind of stupid that they don't at least put PS3 games on PC or remastered games. It's more money and it reaches a broader audience

[rainslacker]

Owning the OS has nothing to do with software sales. However, I'd imagine this is one reason MS is releasing their games on both PC and Xbox. It pushes multiple products to more people, as well as helps them establish their storefront as a place to buy games. If MS didn't have this kind of exclusive content for their web store on windows, then it's hard to imagine PC gamers flocking to it given the currently established and mostly respected alternatives.

Sony could probably sell more copies of their games by releasing them on PC. Maybe even set up their own web store, which they actually do already have. I think Sony though is going to focus more on PSNow as a delivery mechanism to more platforms, and it's platform agnostic.

[thisismyaccount]

I don´t mind them selling PS4 1st party games or every PS3/4 exclusive for the PC, one year after the console debut, with that obnoxious drenovo? drm and sold directly by Sony (full price $60 incl. dlcs), not via steam or any other store.

Sure, why not. The more, the merrier. But the console always should be their priority though.

[tee_bag242]

That's probably a good way to go.

[FasterThanFTL1]

Nobody expects them to. Unlike Microsoft, Sony has no history on PC. Same goes for Nintendo.

[Rimeskeem]

Sony has a history with PC. It didn't work out so well.

[Herbalistic]

Sony doesn't have an OS/store front on PC..Microsoft started off creating games for PC before they even thought about building a home console.. It makes perfect business for Microsoft to support both of their platforms Xbox and Windows 10 with software.

[TripleCs]

Exactly, the only reason you're seeing 2nd party IP's come to the PC is because it makes deals a lot easier to secure like this article points out. I doubt Sony wants to bring their first party IP's to the PC. All Sony would be doing is devaluing the PlayStation brand and they would only be helping Microsoft by putting first party exclusives onto the PC. It would be a waste of time for Sony to bring their first party exclusives onto any other OS that Isn't Windows since Microsoft has such a huge monopoly in the PC market and if Sony brought their exclusives to Windows then Sony's exclusives would also become Microsoft's exclusives since they're on Microsoft's ecosystem and you can only get Sony's exclusives on Windows PC's which Microsoft is also now unifying with Xbox aka Sony's biggest competitor in the console market.

With that being said, I highly doubt Sony is going to bring their first party exclusives to the PC especially since their console business is already very successful and I definitely don't think it's a good idea for Sony.

[lelo2play]

"Why Sony Won't Deploy PS4 Exclusives on PC"

Because they would sell a lot less consoles...

[XhiXExtreme]

Thats a good thing though

[Cueil]

that's ignorance... how many less consoles would they sell if Uncharted Collection came to PC or Last of Us remaster came to PC? It makes no sense to not support the platform at all and pushing remakes and remasters on it doesn't effect the brand at all unless you think that's the reason people bought the PS4... to play 60 dollar 8 year old PS3 games

[lelo2play]

If Sony released their exclusives on PC I can tell for sure that I wouldn't have bought a PS4... I suspect a lot of people think alike.

[Cueil]

if Sony released a new IP on both platforms it would cause you to not buy a PS4... I call BS

[Sadist3]

Street fighter V

[Hold_It]

It's not a true exclusive if it's on more than one platform.

[FPSRUSSIA]

its only on PlayStation 4 and PC

[Ezz2013]

@FPS

It still not exclusive an It's not made by Sony's first party
since you get to play it without the need of Ps4
and i understand why some Xbox gamers would be upset about most of their exclusives are coming to PC too.

IMO exclusives are what set the systems apart from each others.

[Cueil]

yeah.. and you don't get SF5 for PC for free either

[MasterCornholio]

Um Street Fighter V is produced by a 3rd party developer known as Capcom. Its pretty logical to assume that Capcom made the deal with Sony with the condition of a PC release of the game.

If Sonys 1st party studios like Media Molecule and NaughtyDog start releasing their games on PC then that's a different story.

P.S I know Remedy isn't a 1st party studio.

[Lon3wolf]

Exactly Remedy is not a 1st party studio, I really do not see why people are making a big issue of QB coming to PC.

[Neonridr]

Exactly, Remedy is not owned by MS.

Sony helped fund the PS4 version of SFV but the game is releasing on PC.

MS helped fund the XB1 and W10 versions of Quantum Break.

Even if MS helped fund only the XB1 version and Remedy wanted to release it on PC, they would be entitled to. Would be no different here.

[IIFloodyII]

@Lon3wolf

I think it's because Quantum Break is a MS owned I.P, so the fanboys had convinced themselves it's staying on Xbox. I don't know why more people getting a game bothers them so much though.

[Imalwaysright]

True, Remedy isn't a 1st party studio but MS allows games from their 1st party to be released on PC and why wouldn't they when the bulk of the money to be made in this industry comes from software sales?

[GameBoyColor]

Not Sony's IP. When bloodborne or Uncharted or even jak and daxter hits pc, then that would be sony putting its games on PC.

[Thatguy-310]

Not exclusive when it's on more than one platform. THEIR First party studios paint a different story since they ONLY make games for PS4

[Cueil]

but they don't... they make PS3 games and Vita games...

[twinspectre1990]

it is not first party, even thou I wished Third party would make PlayStation fully exclusive games :)

[Hold_It]

The majority of PC gamers wouldn't and couldn't justify buying games that are 80% cinematics/20% gameplay for $60. Sony would lose money because of that.

It would also be a nightmare to have to connect with PSN to play games, as it cannot handle your max bandwith so you would be at an "unfair advantage" for anything multiplayer due to the fact that Steam can take advantage of your internet speeds.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

"The majority of PC gamers wouldn't and couldn't justify buying games that are 80% cinematics/20% gameplay."

but they justify buying expensive graphic cards to buy *Insert whatever thing here* Simulators?

You got your percentages way to exagerated. PS games re just as fun. After QB releases, I'll see if people like you will keep with this ignorance seeing QB looks just as cinematic

[Hold_It]

@Kurapika

You don't need high end graphics cards to play those simulator games. A Nvidia 8600GT with 512MB of Ram isn't high end at all,lol.

You need a high end graphics card with at least 3GB+ of GDDR5 + a high end CPU , and at least 8GB of RAM if you don't want to have a console experience on the majority of console ports as the majority of them are terribly optimized.

There are a lot of stupid people in this world, but not many people would buy a R9 390 or a Nvidia 980 GTX to play Goat Simulator 2015. Nvidia Titan cards are for mostly two audiences. People dumb enough to think that Workstation GPU's should be used to play games, and those who think that because a card is $800+ it's the best thing in the world.

They really aren't. You're entitled to your opinion, and I am to mine. I want to get Quantum Break because I like Remedy, and have supported them since the first Max Payne game, and what Quantum Break is doing with it's cinematic approach is unique, and I like stories that focus around time travel.

To me Uncharted and The Last Of Us feel like very similar games. Uncharted to me felt like a more cinematically focused Tomb Raider with a male protagonist instead of a female, and the later games after Drake's Fortune felt like I was playing a QTE not a game.

I do like the first Uncharted, but I didn't care for 2 and 3. There are very few games that I like where it forces me to be funneled out into a group of enemies even though the map design tells me other wise.

The Last of Us felt like I was playing a survival horror version of Uncharted, except it was better at pretending there was more exploration than Uncharted. There were a lot of empty rooms in the game that just had furniture and nothing else. I thought the story was good, but when I finished it, I really wish that the maps were bigger, and I got to play more of it rather than the gameplay feeling like a vehicle and the meat of the game being the cut scenes.

If I'm going to play something with a largely cinematic approach, I'd rather it be Halo, Hitman, Deus Ex, MGS, Gears, and fighting games.

I don't think I'll mind it in Quantum Break as long as it tells a solid story, has good gameplay, and doesn't control like a David Cage game.

@TFJWM

Uncharted wouldn't see near what it does on PS4. PC has had Tomb Raider for a long time, and other action adventure games just like it, where as console gamers really have a choice between Tomb Raider and Uncharted. It might sell if it was $20 and less on a steam sale.

The Last Of Us? There are more survival horror games that have larger maps and more exploration, and gameplay so that shrinks the pool of potential customers. $30 and less on a steam sale should help.

Until Dawn? I don't think it would sell as well as more people are starting to watch Let's Plays for the cinematic games rather than wasting $60 on them. $25 on a Steam sale would help this one.

Bloodbourne would be the best bet out of that entire list as the PC community fixed all the issues with Dark Souls Prepare To Die edition when it came out, because you couldn't connect online to other players, and there were a lot of issues with gamepad support, mouse detection, and other problems. The Souls games do well on PC, so I would think that would be the most profitable out of the list. I think most people would buy this game at the $45-60 mark on PC.

Bloodbourne is more about gameplay, and providing you with a challenge and making you learn the mechanics of the games, enemies patterns, and how to learn from your mistakes.

[TFJWM]

Umm so Uncharted wouldn't sell on PC? The Last of Us? Until Dawn? Bloodbourne?

"It would also be a nightmare to have to connect with PSN to play games, as it cannot handle your max bandwith so you would be at an "unfair advantage" for anything multiplayer due to the fact that Steam can take advantage of your internet speeds."

Umm you do know that Sony already has games where people from PC and PS4 play together and it works perfectly...

[Free_Fro]

Your comment made me laugh but there's some truth to it. ^_^.

lol.

[LP-Eleven]

I'm sorry, but not only is this trolling, it's nonsense.

OT: Sony won't release their games on PC for one simple, reason - they are trying to PUSH their PlayStation business. Can't do that when your games are shared across multiple platforms, ridding the need of one, specific, system.

[Inzo]

You just wrote a whole essay just to prove that you dont know what the hell you are talking about.

[rainslacker]

So you're saying QB is going to bomb on PC? it seems to be a pretty cinematic driven game.

Outside the Order or Quantic Dream games...which is about the only game which comes close to those percentages..although it's more 50/50, what games are overly cinematic from Sony 1st party? What about all the games that sell on PC, which fit the mold of general inference that you are trying to give? Things like Arkham, Telltale games, any Assassin's Creed game, Tales games, Valkyria Chronicles, etc, all sell well on PC, so your assertion is simply off and reeks of the PC elitist mentality that console games are not games, because somehow, PC games fit into one mold where they all have tons and tons of game play. I remember people signing petitions to get Gears of War on PC...that is about as cinematic as any game on PS4. It's convenient to ignore the fact that many of the most popular games on PC, are also the most popular on console.

[generic-user-name]

"The majority of PC gamers wouldn't and couldn't justify buying games that are 80% cinematics/20% gameplay for $60"

Then goes on to praise QB

Lol.

[Relientk77]

Because Sony wants to sell PlayStations

[PizzaSteve]

Yep no other reason but this. Sony gives you a reason to buy PS4. I don't see a reason to get XB1 unless you a fan of the brand.

[Free_Fro]

Microsoft owns a massive stake on PC, that is Windows.
Windows 10 + XO (Windows 10 device)
You also need Windows 10 for DX12 games.

PlayStation is what keeps Sony afloat, their bread and butter. They can't afford to pull off stunts like MS is with their Windows 10 ecosystem.

You'll always need a PlayStation for in_house Cooked baked and fried games.

[PS4PC]

Steam dominates PC platform

[DragonDDark]

True

[uth11]

and I suspect this Windows 10 gaming push by MS is to try to stop Steam's OS from getting off the ground

[Lon3wolf]

It does and even being on Steam MSoft will profit from it, that''s if the game does not use Win 10 store/live integration.

[nitus10]

Admittedly the dominate platform support for Steam is Microsoft Windows, however I have been noticing many more games (usually older ones though) supporting SteamOS and native Linux distributions.

Steam is well aware that Microsoft is slowly trying to destroy them hence the push for games that will run on other operating systems.

[SpaceRanger]

@TheFro

"PlayStation is what keeps Sony afloat, their bread and butter. They can't afford to pull off stunts like MS is with their Windows 10 ecosystem."

I really thought you were on to something good with the beginning of your comment...till I read that. Sony generate profit from a lot of the other services their company invests in. And I'm not solely talking about hardware. And I highly doubt that lack of funds is the reason they keep their games exclusive. That just doesn't make sense?

I know it's easy to make up stuff, but at least attempt to use the search bar next time.

[Free_Fro]

Of coarse they do make money from other divisions but PlayStation is a major player.

Steam needs windows still although they're trying to break free with that SteamOS
That'll take forever lol

Still can't stunt like Microsoft
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xoxo

[joeorc]

@Free_Fro + 12m ago
Of coarse they do make money from other divisions but PlayStation is a major player.

Steam needs windows still although they're trying to break free with that SteamOS
That'll take forever lol

Still can't stunt like Microsoft
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xoxo

1st of All PlayStation is a Asset holding for Sony is a whole owned Subsidiary not a "division like Xbox is for Microsoft"

Playstation itself is the 5th largest profit generation subsidiaries that Sony owns, but its by no means what's keeping Sony a float.

Next up Sony could release games on Android & Google playstore they would in effect be doing what Microsoft is doing with its very own Windows OS & Xbox, but that's not the point.

Instead of trying to still keep putting or trying to put a box under the TV. Like Microsoft is only doing, Sony is not only putting a box under the TV, but including the TV itself into the PlayStation Eco system. Sony does not need the PC , that Eco syste m has been pretty decided.

Its the TV Eco system that's being contested, and currently Windows OS is not the largest Main OS for the Living room TV, that is Android itself.

Chrome cast is Android based
Amazon fire stick & player are Android based
SmartTV's most are Android based

If anything right now getting rid of SOE and concentrate on Playstation & Android was a good play for Sony than supporting and Bolstering Microsoft Eco system over their own.

[buttcheeks]

People always say that I guess as gamers the thought of PlayStation keeping Sony afloat by itself is a nice image but it simply is far from the truth

[Dewitt]

DX12 allows MS to do these PC builds directly to PC because of DX12 at a very minimal cost. Sony doesn't have a way to lower the cost getting ports to PC so they don't feel it is necessary.

[uth11]

Their games are developed on PC already, they could easily create consumer-level version of their API, libraries and runtime. It's more about business reasons than technical.

[rainslacker]

OpenGL, which is the base of Sony's API, can run in Windows as well. It's possible to use either API on Windows. Graphics card drivers aren't usually tuned for both though, so results can be sporadic. However, things like Mantle, and DX12 are doing away with the OS layer which made this more difficult in the past, so the driver isn't as important since it just needs to allow access to the hardware now.

In any case, when a game is being designed, even on Sony platforms, they are built to PC first, and often run on these PC's before they start offloading them to the dev units to optimize for the hardware specific API's. It's not like it takes years and thousands of hours to port a game between two sets of hardware, it's mostly just changing around the bits of code that aren't directly transferable between the two, and good programmers write their code to make that easy, as the API's get updated, and that code often changes within a 2-3 year development cycle.

[nitus10]

DX12 will only be supported under Microsoft Windows 10, hence the push (force more likely) to get PC users that run MS Win 7, 8, 8.1 to upgrade to MS Win 10 for free.

For people who build their own PC they do have the option of installing MS Windows and/or putting another operating system on which predominately would be a Linux distribution.

The downside for a home PC builder is if they want a Microsoft OS they have to pay for it or pirate it. With Linux it is basically free.

[hiawa23]

Of course Sony doesn't deploy their games on PC. Sony is a different company than Microsoft, Duh...

[SynestheticRoar]

Because you don't shoot yourself in the leg, if your in a race.

[StormLegend]

Why would they? that's a stupid idea.. No one would buy a PS4 when they can play Uncharted 4, Infamous, Driveclub,Until Dawn,Gravity Rush, Horizon and many more on PC. They would rather play the games at max setting.

[Bobafret]

Are there going to be 1st party exclusives coming to Windows 10 as well?

[IIFloodyII]

Fable Legends (by Lionhead) and Sea of Thieves (by Rare) are already confirmed, so yes.

[Youngindy21]

Microsoft is continuing to lose the trust and faith of the consumer. It's one of the main reasons PS4 is winning this gen and one of the main reasons the international community flocks to Playstation instead of Xbox. It's bad enough they had that terrible E3 reveal. They better be careful, because in their search for a few extra PC gamers they could end up losing their diehard Xbox fanbase. Some people say it's not a big deal, but it obviously is if people keep talking about it.

[uth11]

This is their worst announcement since the XB1 reveal. It feels like they are capitulating to Sony.

There are two general reasons to own a console over a PC: exclusives and convenience, and MS just killed one of them.

[Dewitt]

Sigh, another person that doesn't understand what this allows MS to do. Cross-buy, cross-save, cross-play have all been heavily requested by XB1 and PC gamers alike. MS is bringing both platforms together in a shared architecture. How is providing more options losing trust in the consumer? DX12 allows MS alot of flexibility and they are taking advantage of that to the consumers benefit.

[uth11]

Have you played PC games? The Hardware fragmentation in that market often makes it an exercise in frustration. How many terrible PC ports of big games have we seen in just the past year?

By saying that XB1 is just another Win10 device, MS is dragging Xbox One into that environment, and quality is likely to suffer for it.

One big advantage of consoles is it's insulated from those headaches. MS is destroying that advantage with these kinds of moves.

[Dewitt]

So your main gripe is quality of PC ports which have absolutely nothing with how games are developed on the XB1. It is using the same API for decoding and rebuilding the code on another platform, so there is no loss in quality.

[DigitalRaptor]

"What this allows MS to do"

This allows MS to remove exactly what makes Xbox One unique in the market. As such this is the worst decision they've made since the reveal of the console and the anti-consumer, non-gaming approach they had that almost ruined the brand. Now Phil and MS wants to dilute the gaming brand and incorporate it into Windows services.

Then there's the stream of lies from the execs, and misleading narrative about gaming being exclusive and people buying consoles on the basis of games being exclusive to a console.

And in regards to "heavy requests" - I don't think you'll find anyone requesting MS to convert all their console defining exclusive games into multiplatform games before this Quantum Breakdown happened. 'Cause that would be unsavoury, to gamers on any platform, and what this is is undoubtedly unsavoury. Honestly, what kind of gaming console has a library that is 99.9% multiplatform?

[Dewitt]

Digital you don't even have console or comment on the uservoice forum so how would you know. You don't it is the number 2 requested feature to have cross-save, cross-buy with PC and it was posted Feb of last year.

[DigitalRaptor]

So you didn't really respond to anything I said.....

Honestly, what kind of gaming console has a library that is 99.9% multiplatform?

[PS4PC]

Ehh ?
Sony never did and in future it will never do
Consoles primary point of selling are exclusives no matter how x1 owners try to twist it.

[frostypants]

Yeah. The idea of a console is to build an ecosystem, not just push software. Microsoft however sees their ecosystem as Live, which they're trying to push onto the PC base. It's an interesting strategy, but one that may slowly call into question why the Xbox exists at all.

[rainslacker]

I think the Xbox will just be another part of that eco-system. The console itself certainly still has a place in the market, and it's hard to imagine they would just give it up, as they would be giving up on a rather sizable market.

It could move to something than what it is now though. I considered that they may move towards a licensing model for their hardware in the future, to do away with the rather costly process of R&D. Something along the lines of Steam Box, but more affordable, although it was more a set minimum standard. All these licensed devices would obviously be running MS OS, which is where MS will likely charge royalties...along with something for use of the Xbox name. Ms would likely not take licensing fees from publishers in this case, however, since the store is likely to be the only place to purchase games on it, they would make their money there...like they do now. This however would mean that publishers would make more money on the system, so it could be an advantage for MS and help garner publisher support.

Pure speculation of course, but seems more inline with where they want to go with Windows itself. It's hard to say right now if MS feels that the console space is worth investing a lot into R&D, since it's a pretty risky venture every generation...even for the established veterans.

I'll probably get disagrees for even throwing out this possibility, but I feel it's a very practical and very possible scenario, and not meant to put down the Xbox console or the brand itself. Just requires looking at the bigger picture, and accepting that holding fast to one's love of console hardware won't change MS from doing what it feels is best for the brand.

Live has always been their thing to make themselves a part of everyone's life. Live, more than any product they produce is their eco-system, and every product they make is tied into it somehow. They want to push that more than Windows, they just do so quietly. MS knew a long time ago that the eco-system is what's going to keep their user base involved, and they've done many things to make it more robust, more pleasant to use, and extremely competitive with other ecosystems...often times setting the standards for what an ecosystem should be.

[DarkAzureIIIX]

Why Sony Won't Deploy PS4 Exclusives on PC, Street Fight 5 said hello.

[LP-Eleven]

That's not Sony's IP. Thus, SFV then said goodbye.

[Ron_Danger]

Someday they'll understand the difference. It's just another way they've convinced themselves that this is gonna the one goal post move that finally shows everyone.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

Bloodborne says hello!

1St party IP onwed by Sony and develop by a 2nd party developer, From Software. Not on PC

Street fighter is not owned by Sony. Sony could only secure the console exclusivity. The decision to make it available for PC is out of their control since they don't own it. Capcom does

[Neonridr]

Remedy is not owned by MS either. Remedy is not a 2nd party developer. They just have a partnership with MS currently.

[buttcheeks]

@ neo they own the IP they choose where the game goes not remedy

[DarkAzureIIIX]

No one said 1st/2nd party IPs, the title said "Exclusives"

[DarkAzureIIIX]

@MackoManRandySavage
I never said that 1st and 2nd party IPs were not Exclusives. I simply pointing out that SF5 (a 3rd party game) is an Exclusives that will never be on XbOne but is on PC. Valkyrie Chronicles series is an 3rd party game, high unlikely ever be on XbOne/x360 but maybe PC like the Valkyrie Chronicles 1. PlanetSide 2 is an PS4 Exclusives thats on PC. Guilty Gear Xrd 3rd party Exclusive it's on PC and PS4 only. Firewatch 1st( or 2nd) party Exclusiveit's on PC and PS4 only. I can keep going but I don't why I would need to.

[kenwonobi]

Lmao! Melted the web? More like mildly Sun tanned. A day later it's already dying down.

[joeorc]

Sony sold off SOE, why do you think they did that?

Sony put all of playstation "subsidiaries" under one self contained multisubsidiary conglomerate that is private held. No public buy in and recent profits in one quarter was near 1 billion by playstation alone.

Sony is wanting to concentrate on making playstation the leading Eco system for the living room.

PlayStation Vue, & PlayStation now are on
SmartTV's using dual shock 3 & 4's working with the smartTV's

Playstation Vue is now on Amazon fire, fire player, Chromecast, PS3 & PS4 , works on iPhone & iPod touch & iPad.

While Microsoft is taking PC & Xbox as one platform to place under the TV.

Sony is making the TV & smart boxes directly included into the playstation Eco system, why help Microsoft with bolstering their Eco system?

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

What?

[joeorc]

@XiKurapikaKurta

Follow me here were going to make a simple diagram. If others want to join doing this follow suit here.

Very simple in execution take a piece of paper draw a TV Set.

Set two columns aside below the Drawn TV set on that piece of paper one for Microsoft & one for Sony

Under Microsoft's column write down
Windows OS + Xbox now draw & point an arrow under the TV. Going from Microsoft's column to the Tv.

Now under the Sony column
Write down

Playstation console + PSNow + PlayStation Vue

Now put a arrow going from Sony's Column to the TV.

Now write on the TV Android in big letters circle it and make an arrow going to the Sony Column only.

Unlike Microsoft , Sony instead of trying to hook up a box to Evey TV in your household, Sony is turning the TV itself into part of the PlayStation Eco system itself.

So as I was pointing out why would Sony put their PlayStation 1st party exclusives on PC instead of on playstation and from that single PlayStation console stream to any other TV in your house.

Why would Sony bother to bolster Microsoft's Eco system over their own?

Simple answer is after over 38+ million sold Playstation 4's in under 3 years they would not want to support Windows OS over PlayStation + Android OS. They have no need for Windows OS , again they sold off SOE to boot.

Microsoft is facing an OS front for the living room

Windows OS , with DirectX12 Graphics Api

Vs
SteamOS "linux" with Vulkan graphics Api
Android OS with Vulkan graphics Api
Included Amazon, google, Samsung etc.

Vs

Apple iOS with its Metal Graphics Api

This is less about Sony & more about trying to keep windows OS to be the main OS for the living room vs other Operating systems.

Problem is Sony has PlayStation standing in the way, along with Nintendo and now google and apple and now Valve with its own Eco system all in the living room also. All rather large companies standing in Microsoft's way with their very own Eco systems that already has many consumers using that companies Eco system.

These other companies see exactly what happened in the PC market, the consumer electronics market is not the sane arena that Microsoft is now dealing with. The other Operating Systems now have very sizable adoption rates that will make it that much harder for Microsoft to win out.

SteamOS is 100% free a gamer OS loadable on any PC that can match the system requirements. Its not so much the steam machines, its more about another OS for gamers to choose from other than Windows OS.

[Dannylew]

because sony knows that a console without exclusive is a single piece of plastic without a soul.

[maybelovehate]

It's a shame. My PC destroys my PS4 in performance. Much rather player ND games in the best way possible.

[nitus10]

So does my PC but I don't run a Microsoft OS on mine I run Linux (Fedora 23 if you are interested) which can also run many MS Windows based games as well although rarely the latest ones.

Still if I want to play the latest PlayStation games I do have a PS4 and backwards compatible PS3 that can do just that.

[maybelovehate]

Linux is nice. Not as good for gaming but it is still fun to tinker with.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Sony doesn't make an OS that is on PC...they truly have no vested interest in growing PC. Their sole interest is in growing their own hardware. The one lone exception to this could be if Sony were looking to expand PS Now and grow it and PSN into a more universal solution. However, I just don't see them having that kind of vision for it at this point. I think they want it to be a hardware driver and rightfully so, that is their bread and butter.

edit: @joeorc does make a good point around Sony looking to create its own TV eco-system with Vue also adding into the mix but I just am not seeing a real push from them on really pushing the ecosystem. I think they are rather happy to continue on the hardware path with PS4 front and center. Whatever other small chunks of business they can carve out with Vue and the like they will be happy with.

[joeorc]

Dlacy13g + 36m ago
Sony is not just creating a TV Eco system by itself, its including SmartTV's into the PlayStation Eco system on top of that. The PS4 or , PS5 etc. Act ad a local streaming server to your TV itself or you can use playstation Now to gather streaming from server side.

Its not about putting a box under every TV in the house hold its about being able to employ to every TV in your house hold from one box or on a server side.

"edit: @joeorc does make a good point around Sony looking to create its own TV eco-system with Vue also adding into the mix but I just am not seeing a real push from them on really pushing the ecosystem. I think they are rather happy to continue on the hardware path with PS4 front and center. Whatever other small chunks of business they can carve out with Vue and the like they will be happy with."

Sony has on Samsung Smart TV's and their very own playstation Now, & playstation Vue. The point being is Android TV is more than just putting a box under the TV its allowing the TV itself to be a general usage compute platform. Intel & Arm Holdings chip sets are going into these smart TV's the number one OS is Android going into be the standard OS.

Vulkan is the standard Advanced Api universal in Android Builds of the OS as the default Graphics Api.

Sony is very heavy invested into Android and mobile in supply chips to mobile devices from CMOS sensors to Now ntsc HDTV tuner chips going into the smartphones themselves, not just excluding those chips to other vendors branded smart phones just like their camera sensors they are placing those chips into other hardware vendors smart devices.

Right now with Remote play being already developed to and for a large number of Arm holdings , snapdragon chipsets. Sony has Android set for remote play on pretty much any Android OS based device.

Not just to a box, but any smartTV that may or may not contain their chip set, but may contain Android as an OS and pretty much that is all Sony would need.

[nitus10]

@animalia

I won't deny that Microsoft owns the Desktop OS market but the mobile market is dominated by Android (Linux kernel) at 83% and to a lesser extent by IOS (Apple's Operating System) at 14%. Microsoft's share of the mobile market is only about 2.6% (see the following: http://www.idc.com/prodserv...

For super computers Linux just dominates, hardly any other OS gets a look-in. Linux also dominates in the server room although Microsoft is trying hard.

Microsoft is only dominate in the Desktop market and that market is starting to slowly shrink as other non Windows products start to appear.

[rainslacker]

I don't doubt for a second that PSNow will be available on PC's in the future...if not the near future.

Game's that are built to play directly on PC...not so likely....at least not for any new release. I could see them doing releases of older games, such as from the PS2/PS1 days. Many publishers are already doing this, and it seems to be going well. If Sony could tie that into the PS eco-system, then PC could help bolster the brand itself.

Would be a pretty long term thing though...which is what MS is likely looking at now, and not just the immediate benefit. I've always said MS to be a very forward thinking company for the things they want to achieve. Unfortunately, sometimes they give up too soon, which makes them look kind of wishy washy in certain areas. They could have had the tablet market on lock, but they jumped onto that before it was trending, and gave it up before Apple made it desirable.

[lastking95]

The biggest over reaction this gen. MS is suporting it OS. This is almost the equivalent of Sony releasing games on PS Now. Quantum break isn't even first party, just like SFV but unlike QB I don't see people going crazy over it being released on PC. I don't why I'm surprised this isn't the first or last time people have been hypocrites this gen.

[Majin-vegeta]

Ugghhhh i hate having to repeat myself.

The reason people are up in arms about this is the fact that MS always kept touting it as an "X1" excluisive.The only place you can play it is on X1 bla bla.SF5 isnt the same case cuz we knew since day 1 it could also be played on PC.

See the difference?

[lastking95]

Have you read the comments? I'm not denying some are upset MS didn't say it day one but this isn't the first or last time they did this. I honestly don't see why people are so up in arms. It's 2 months away people actually like they announced a pc release 1 day before or on the day of release. Btw they tout xbox exclusive for just about every console exclusive. The only games they don't are for low budget such as ori or free to plays.

Not all those who are complaining are upset simply because they weren't up front about it. Some if not most are upset simply because it's releasing on pc period.

[Dewitt]

And most of them are fanboys who just look at sales numbers that don't effect them whatsoever just to claim mine is better than yours. Smart consumers can see how much this benefits them by allowing alot more incentives such as free games, free PC version, free DLC, ect.

[LeoDDestroyer]

Isn't this argument like why doesn't apple let ios go on other types of smart phones or why doesn't McDonalds let Burger King sell their burgers.

[lastking95]

Sony doesn't have an OS on pc so yeah good analogy. Then you got ppl mad ms is supporting w10. It's like being upset McDonald's sells their coffee at grocery stores. Perfect analogy

[LeoDDestroyer]

My point is that there is exclusivity doesn't just exist in the gaming market like gamer make it out to be, it is everywhere. This is how business create and maintain their brand.

[2pacalypsenow]

Microsoft is doing For Windows 10 what Sony did for Blu ray on Ps3

[joeorc]

@2pacalypsenow + 33m ago
"Microsoft is doing For Windows 10 what Sony did for Blu ray on Ps3"

Sorta, yes and no, unlike Windows OS being a sole property IP from Microsoft.

Blu-Ray was not just only Sony's sole property IP.

Sony while true did have the 1st commercial released Blu-ray recorder/player of blu-ray content in 2003 in Asia markets. At the time blu-ray as a format was being worked on by 22 of the largest optical drive manufacturing companies.

Sony invested into blu-ray as a format since 1997.

HDDVD only had one time NEC & Toshiba in 2006 Toshiba lost NEC as another manufacturer of HDDVD opticsl drives , that left Toshiba as the only one left.

Microsoft only went with HDDVD because the blu-ray consortium chose BD-java over IHD player software.

Its not quite the sane thing , but close.

[2pacalypsenow]

I meant they are sacrificing the console to gain market share. If the Ps3 didn't have Blu Ray, it would have been a lot cheaper and Blu Ray prob wouldn't have won the format war and Sony invested a lot into Blu ray which at the end bit the in the ass, same with Windows 10 they want people to shift over to 10 so they are using the Xbox 1 games for it and im certain it will only benefit MS

[DDMNeo]

More like they're smart enough not to make the same mistake Microsoft is making. I will say that in MS defence that they're probably trying to start up their own Steam like service, but that's a pretty dumb idea too with all the competition that exists now.

[2pacalypsenow]

Like the smart phone party MS is always late for it.

[uth11]

I think they are trying to prevent SteamOS from gaining ground. Having an alternative PC gaming OS gain critical mass would be terrifying to them, especially as Linux has already beat them in many other markets.

[nitus10]

If you connect to Steam and look at the number of games you can play natively under SteamOS and Linux, they are slowly but surely increasing.

I am pretty sure Steam realises that Microsoft wants them sidelined although not out of business since that may bring Microsoft unwanted litigation so the three E's (Embrace, Extend and Extinguish) still apply but carefully.

[Pancit_Canton]

Not really true.

Kojima's New game is published by Sony and making a full released on PC.

[jstark]

why would i want horizon on PC? since guerrilla games hasn't made a decent game since 2011. please keep these normie games off pc sony

[Speak_da_Truth]

I'm seeing some ppl say Sony should follow suit to what MS is doing. IMO all this would lead to if Sony follows suit is the death of consoles and I really don't want that to happen so Nintendo and Sony don't follow what MS is doing.

[peshkavusCA]

agreed :)

[Sweetbrandigirl]

Microsoft is first and foremost a computer company Sony isn't besides sony doesn't need to put their games on pc. Their console is the best in the world and sales are outstanding ! They have the console and the games no arm twisted need to get people to buy that !

[Tobsesan]

They would have to pay a 3. party to get theire games on like steam. Its a fee sony dont have to pay at the playstation. They also sold the PC division and SOE, that is why they wont do it. They also dont have a own OS they wont to get into peoples homes with its own store.

[fathertime1980]

Isn't ps now available on tv's, blue ray players, and on pc?? My Samsung has access to it. Or exclusives are available on it. Same difference as me putting xbox exclusives on Windows pc. More money is more money regardless of what platform. It's obvious that not many people can see past their own oppinions and noses and see that a business has to make money or else they will go out of business

[uth11]

PS Now only has PS3 games right now. If PS4 games started showing up there, it would be a different story.

[oldassgamer]

Why would Sony want to cannibalize their own business? Selling your exclusives on PC could lead to fewer console sales.

[Angel911]

Can't wait to play all these sweet console exclusives on PC

QB
Recore
SFV
Hellblade
No Man's Sky
Shenmue 3
FF 7 Remake

Already playing Witness and Firewatch on PC.

Gears 4 and Halo are not on PC just like UC4 not on PC..Big selling console games never come to PC..QB is no Halo or Gears and it could never match sales of Halo and Gears..Better release it on PC to get some sales.

[Neonridr]

Exactly. SFV, Witness, No Man's Sky, Firewatch, FF7 remake (potentially).. these are all games that are touted for the PS4 but all happily exist on the PC too.

Why the hell is it such a crime that one exclusive Xbox One game has now been released on Windows as well.

Give me a break people. Let's put our big boy pants on for at least a few minutes without resort to tantrums.

[jb227]

I personally think (and it has been rumored) that Halo 5 will be announced for PC at the upcoming MS event & will be released in September. I also think Gears will be announced for PC as well. MS already back tracked on QB being a full XBO exclusive, it'd be kinda crazy to think they couldn't possibly do the same for any other game they are developing.

[Wallstreet37]

The same reason Sony wont put Ps4 games on Playstation now even though they could and mentioned numerous times the service will eventually support PS4 games. Sony doesnt want to damage PS4 sales by adding exclusive game support to PC. Many gamers buy Ps4s just for their exclusives. PS4 is killing it in hardware and software sales this generation so there is no need to even think of doing that.

[Neonridr]

PS Now isn't fast enough to support PS4 games. PS Now is capped at 720p/30fps. Not exactly a great way to show off your PS4 titles.

[Wallstreet37]

http://www.gamespot.com/art...

Lol if you really think ps now cant stream ps4 games i dont know what to tell you. Companies have many times stated a feature wasnt available or didnt make one available at first for strategic reasons. Sony has never said it cannot support ps4 games and there is nothing stopping it from doing so. They have one of the best servers companies behind ps now, a company as good as azure and well known that actually works in conjunction with Azure for certain things. Rackspace can without a question hook it up so ps4 games are streamed.

Come on man all these companies are playing chess and Sony doesnt offer ps4 games now because it doesnt make sense too. Theyll wait for ps4 to be at the end of its cycle or until ps5 comes out to offer ps4 game streaming. Its the same way they didnt initially offer background music support or music streaming unless it was under their music unlimited service, then changed when they saw it wasnt really generating revenue and then allowed spotify. Its like Microsoft saying xbone cant work without kinect, ppl believing that bs, then microsoft removing it due to sales.

Come on bro you should know better than that.

[Angel911]

@The_Infected

Scalebound won't come as it's by Platinum and they don't make PC games...SunsetOversrive is still not on PC coz Insomniac don't make PC games.

Also Halo and Gears 4 won't come as these 2 will sell good amount of copies on Xbox.

Gears original sold 6m on 360 compared to less than 1m on Vista back in 2007. Gears Ultimate is just a remaster of original, so it will not hurt Xbox one in anyway.

Halo Wars 2 is a RTS , it makes more sense on PC than Xbox.

Sea of Thieves Cross-platform online MMO game..PC platform perfect for it...

Recore - A new niche looking IP, could do really well if it's on PC as well along with Xbox.

[jb227]

Scalebound won't come as it's by Platinum and they don't make PC games...SunsetOversrive is still not on PC coz Insomniac don't make PC games"

Difference is MS owns the Scalebound IP & all rights but they don't own Sunset Overdrive. Also there are many devs capable of porting an XBO game to PC...happens literally all the time.

Pretty sure Halo 5 will get announced for PC at the MS event.

Frank O'Conner, head of 343 said "There is plenty of a chance for Halo 5 to release for the PC. Nothing to announce at the moment though."

MS want to make Win10 a unified platform, which means that MS exclusives will now be Win 10 Exclusives...for better or worse that seems to be the way the tide is turning.

[kenwonobi]

There is no need to help the competition is why. They have operating systems on the PC. They will want to promote everything using direct x12 too. They would be splitting their base towards PC more. None of it makes sense for Sony. Microsoft wants some form of control. Sony wants to give Microsoft absolutely no form of control. It makes complete sense.

[InTheZoneAC]

1. it would be stupid in every possible way
2. if sony were desperate like microsoft or sega then that might be a possbility. Hey Xbox went that way because they're lagging in console sales...
3. it would be incredibly stupid and limit console sales
4. don't write anymore articles for n4g for even suggesting such nonsense

[its_JEFF]

The article makes some good points. Mainly that Sony doesn't have a OS its trying to sell, MS does. MS is using the Xbox as a way to help sell people on Windows10.

[weirdo]

F*CK PC

[PistolsAtDawn]

Um like 95% of their "exclusives" ARE on PC. Their first party stuff wont go there because then they will have to pay MS for the rights to use Windows and Dx

[jb227]

That's a pretty rich sentiment. Firstly, there isn't a single Sony first party title on PC. 100% are only available on PS platforms. Secondly Sony wouldn't have to pay MS a dime to release on PC as they could just distribute their game through the market leaders in Steam...wouldn't be using DX12 either.

[PistolsAtDawn]

Point to where I said PS 1st party games are on PC.... Don't worry, I'll wait.

[Night99]

Sony doesn't have their own OS and they don't have their own Store on PC.

Microsoft clearly wants to rival Steam and push Windows 10 and Windows Store. I am sure Quantum Break and most other Microsoft developed games will not be on Steam only on Windows Store.

[cimerians]

"Apple/Nintendo won't release their exclusives on PC". Sounds silly right? Just like the article.

[iceman600]

"Why Sony Won't Deploy PS4 Exclusives on PC"

um because their stupid? I guess they want to go broke instead.

[Liveevirdtset]

Seriously, that's the guys stance the exclusives will drive system sales and Microsoft may stretch itself too thin. So lets debunk (or completely omit) Microsoft's software sales reaching a larger audience and the fact that Sony until present had Knack as a flagship title and its only selling point is securing a third party title (SF-V) and finally getting Uncharted 4 underway (what was the last Metacritic score for the third game). Truth, porting over some of Sony's exclusives disastrous as they just aren't as popular, nobodies dying to play any of the Killzones on PC I'm sure. Microsoft in the west is doing arguably as well as Sony and seeing the timed exclusivity for FFVII for example only illustrates this point further. Sony fanboys bought the system when they were told its trending, and as long as Sony can again lie to its costomers and keep this propaganda going these same individuals will buy said games due to scarcity of available software on the system. Not denying both Uncharted and TLoUs are great cinematic experiences simply saying nether title had the gameplay to came back to, isn't that what defines this genre from other media? Maybe buying a system because its trending rather than for its games doesn't make someone a gamer, same argument was made for the Wii last gen.

[kenwonobi]

Forgot Bloodbourne and Infamous we understand though. You're trying to get your point across with slanted bias

[Liveevirdtset]

weren't we talking this year, Bloodborne was not launch and even PS fanboys forgot about infamous, everything people want play Titanfall, Tomb Raider even Rare Replay has more games in the one compilation than anything that has come out on Sony's console. Lets not forget backwards compatibility ushering in all the games the previous generations winning console being included. I own all three systems PS4 excluded there simply is no reason to upgrade, what for a GoW3 or LoU remastered. How many systems do you own? gamer or fanboy, look if the PS4 had that many worthy titles you wouldn't be policing forums you would be playing your system.

[kenwonobi]

I've owned every system nearly made. Ever. Including eventually all of these systems. Well maybe not Wii U. Currently only PS4 but before this generation it was every Xbox, every PlayStation, every Nintendo, Atari, Dreamcast, Sega Saturn, Master system, Turbo Graphix 16, Jaguar, super scope, the glove, virtual boy, light gun, and bunch of random miniature arcades.

[hardcorehippiez]

tlou didnt have the gameplay ? yea right lol

[Tzuno]

Because exclusivity brings them more money, they want to sell more hardware than software, maybe they will change their mind in time if money will be good for such a stunt.

[Sadist3]

Like I said before, street fighter V

[MasterCornholio]

Does Sony own the IP though?

Then it isn't the same thing then.

Now if Bloodborne comes to PC than it would be the same case as Quantum Break.

[QuickdrawMcgraw]

PS4 owners thinking of getting a Xbox1 as a their second console...Can now consider getting a PSVR instead...all the while getting to play Xbox1 exclusives on the PC if they choose...a huge win for Sony and PS owners...

[Tedakin]

A huge win that Microsoft is doing? You're still paying MS to play the games and using their operating system. You're an MS customer whether you buy the xbox or not :) And they're getting your money and usage.

[Liveevirdtset]

Relax this is the Sony fanboy in their natural environment, just picture an ostrich with their head in the sand policing forums like hall monitors. If their system had games they wouldn't be here with all their free time :)

[Tedakin]

MS isn't deploying to PC. They're deploying to WIN 10. Their other platform. Just throwing MS games up on Steam is one thing... using them to promote Win 10 is another. And if you buy Xbox versions, you get the Windows version free. Quantum Break and KI are both doing this, more games will in the future.

[Germany7]

Sony and Nintendo have no business with pc, stop with the port begging and move on.

[Ratty]

Well if the big three started releasing their exclusives to PC, I'd just get a PC. Which is probably what I'll do to play Quantum Break eventually.

[Tedakin]

If Sony was in the PC business you'd see games there too probably. MS has two platforms, not one like Sony. They support both and somehow it's used as a negative against them.

[travelguy2k]

I always thought Sony should team up with apple on their OS, then they could release on apple's OS and bring up the gaming chops of apple. Plus have a great OS on their console.

[kenwonobi]

That's not a bad idea partnering with Microsoft's competition. Benefits to both Apple and Sony are obvious. Even making PSVR a open system to Apple computers is a great strategy.

[ecchiless]

Indeed in thay way sony could add the premium fee that apple products have and make a better profit, but i can't see this happend, at least not right now.

[Bebedora]

Sometimes I just hate the commercial side of gaming - entering my world.

[NeoGamer232]

I would buy all the big sony games if they were on another platform.

I will not be black mailed into buying their console because they have great games.

I buy my consoles based on the console, its OS/firmware, and fit into my home environment. Not because they have a bunch of games I can't play anywhere else.

[jb227]

Is your comment meant to be satire? Never heard of anyone buying a video gaming box based off of everything except video games. Sucks to deprive yourself of a lot of games that'd you'd admittedly like to play...."blackmail" is a bit of a stretch, those exclusives are funded solely by Sony & they have the right to release them on any platform they choose, if you don't want to play them, no one is twisting your arm...if you do want to play them & refuse to because the box "doesn't fit into your home entertainment" then more power to you...makes zero sense to me though.

[NeoGamer232]

First, I have had many bad experiences with Sony's electronics. While they are usually state-of-the-art cool, they are not at all durable over time. (I am not saying MS is any better, but in my experiences as a consumer MS dealt with my issues much better).

Second, I travel a lot and use a lot of different devices all the time. Vendors who support all my different devices best get my dollars.

Third, it is blackmail. And that is not a stretch. The legal definition of blackmail is:

A crime involving a threat for purposes of compelling a person to do an act against his or her will, or for purposes of taking the person's money or property.

By doing exclusives on only one platform Sony is threatening that you cannot have the gaming experience you may want and compelling people to buy the Playstation platform whether that is their preference or not and it is solely to make sure they take my money vs letting Dell or Microsoft do so on the hardware.

As for your theory it goes both ways. If it is Sony's choice to stay on only one platform it is MS' choice to release their games on two and sometimes more platforms (Age of Empires Castle Seige is on iOS and Android as well for example). So why you even commenting in this thread because if they do it their own way and you just have to accept it you really aren't concerned either way then right?

[jerethdagryphon]

Key word for black mail is THREAT either real or implied there is no threat no more then tesla saying only teslas can use our superchargers no shere does sony say give us your money or else. Nor is it extortion as again there is no threat simply a offer of goods or services in exchange for currency.

[Zoombael]

"I buy my consoles based on the console, its OS/firmware, and fit into my home environment. Not because they have a bunch of games I can't play anywhere else."

That's the dumbest thing i've read on n4g so far. But don't fret, i'm relatively new here and i'm sure there will be comments even more stupid than yours.

[NeoGamer232]

I use Microsoft Windows at work and have many Windows devices so why would I buy a PlayStation when Microsoft has started cross buy with Quantum Break on XB/Windows and I can now play Quantum Break on all my Windows/XB devices?

I have an achievement Gamerscore of over 200,000 so why would I switch to PlayStation to play Uncharted? (I really love the game, but I will not buy a device just to play it)

Most of my friends own Xbox Ones so why would I play on PlayStation to play multiplayer for Killzone?

I have a large backlog of Xbox 360 games so why wouldn't I buy a Xbox One and play games through Backwards Compatibility?

I prefer the Microsoft game and elite controllers over Dual Shock controllers (in fact I hate dual shock) so why would I buy a PlayStation?

I like the OS on XB1 more than PS4 so why would I buy a PS4?

I only have 802.11ac setup for my network so why would I buy a PS4 which cannot connect to it?

I have had negative customer service experiences with Sony on at least four occasions that cost me several thousands of dollars so why would I buy PlayStation?

Everything is not just about games. Games do play a role, in that there has to be a minimum number of good games to make the console purchase feasible. But there are many other things that factor into the console purchasing decision.

If games are the sole factor in a console purchase then everyone would be buying Wii U. Super Mario World 3D, Super Smash Brothers, Bayonetta 2, Zelda Wind Waker, Mario Kart 8, Super Mario Maker, Pikmin 3 are all 85+ Wii U first party exclusive games on Metacritic. PS and XB aren't even in the same neighbourhood for highly rated first party exclusive games on Metacritic.

For me, the only dumb thing would be to buy a PlayStation instead of an Xbox One.

[JunMei]

I don't think they'd really have anything to lose on the hardware side. Think about how many people are able to partake in PC gaming, but simply don't because they can't be bothered with anything more complicated than a console. It'd be cool if we could get something a hardware emulator that we could put in a PC motherboard to act as a console thigh. Or maybe something through USB. I'd certainly buy that.

[JoeDaniel]

Is that so hard to understand that Microsoft has an interest in WINDOWS gaming?

[Smokingunz]

I agree with griever,but u were wrong about sony beating xbox in three consecutive generations,do your home work, 360 spanked ps3 in sales.you can google that.

[PiperMCFierceson]

Business is business. And with all the pirating on pc, it'll be bad business.

[ickysweat77]

If you ever took a business class in college, you would know it's a smart business decision by Microsoft; plain and simple. There are hundreds of millions of PC owners who are potential customers. They also are smart enough to know that software is where the profits lie, and those who think that excluding an install base that is many times larger than their console base, is simply a failure at understanding business 101.

[airforcex]

Scenario 1: You time it right. At the end of a consoles lifespan you release on PC. Then, if you invest on specs, you release a better version (or sequel) on your next gen system. The current problem is that, unlike the 360/PS3 era, consoles will remain way behind PC.
Scenario 2: You know that PC, although more powerful, is a smaller market. Still, you can make $$$ and get an additional return on your investment.

Someone hire me as a consultant!

[FN4GM]

Sony wont do that because they are smart, just because Microsoft has decided to make their console irrelevant by continually putting their console" exclusives" on PC doesn't mean Sony ever will.

[TheTwelve]

Short answer: Sony wants to win the console war.

[Dyldog69]

Let em have that p.o.s. Bloodborne

[sactownlawyer916]

Last I checked Bloodborne was the only exclusive that was up for goty last year. And guess what uncharted 4 will be the only exclusive up for goty this year. Here is some popcorn for your salt though.

[MasterCornholio]

Bloodborne was the highest rated exclusive of 2015. Its anything but a P.O.S Crap Gamer.

[StormLegend]

Salty as ever! go play those POS Halo games you guys get all the time.

[dip321]

Why ps4 exclusives are not on pc :
1. They don't own a monopoly in os there. No extra profit for them.
2. Playstation devision is what keeping Sony afloat. They are gonna try their best to make it sell well.
Why Ms exclusives will be on pc:
1. Ms is a much bigger company than Sony and more so a software company. They will get tons of money from games going to pc.
2.It's there vision of unified ecosystem.
Xbox : Convenient , easy to use , console ecosystem for playing win10 games.
Windows 10 pc : Sophisticated , high end solution for playing win 10 games. I am surprised so very few people get this idea.

[Zoombael]

"1. They don't own a monopoly in os there. No extra profit for them. "

What has this to do with the OS? Let me put the emphasis on the term MONOPOLY!

There is no pushing of Win10 by making a few more games Win10 only. DirectX is doing this a lot better.

"2. Playstation devision is what keeping Sony afloat. They are gonna try their best to make it sell well. "

It's doing pretty well, but no reason to overact.

"1. Ms is a much bigger company than Sony and more so a software company. They will get tons of money from games going to pc."

Because MS is a much bigger company than Sony, is the reason why not many Sony IPs will find there way to PC? Is this suppose to make sense?

"2.It's there vision of unified ecosystem. "

It's there [sic] vision of a plan b alright.

[dip321]

@Zoombael
1. What it has to do with os ? They are trying to push win 10 and you do realize with every game published on windows they get a certain cut of the profit ? If sony had a operating system and a store on pcs , they would have published their games on pc too.
2. It's true. Sony can't afford to make a loss on playstation division , it's their lifeline , they are throwing their every bet on that divison.
3. Yep. Microsoft and sony is not in the same league. Microsoft is competing with Google and Apple for the unified system vision. Microsoft is a software company , they will try to make money on every software they can. Sony doesn't have as many services as Ms , nor do they have a presence on pc. All they are trying to do is making sure their consoles are selling like hot cakes , they don't have a bigger goal of unified system like Ms , apple , google.
4. It has been their plan from all along the beginning. They want products in every section of people's degital life.

[wannabe gamer]

1-4 LOL

[wannabe gamer]

because they are EXCLUSIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!