Does the Decline of 'Destiny' Spell Doom for 'No Man's Sky'?

Bungie recently email-lapsed Destiny players to ask why they haven’t logged in recently, in a move that felt like a text to an ex: What happened? Where did we go wrong? As gamers sign off from Destiny and World of Warcraft in favor of quicker jolts in mobile games and MOBAs, could the waning popularity of the long-experience game signal an early doom for No Man’s Sky?

[Kaneki-Ken]

Nope, the two games different type of genre.

[PeaSFor]

theres no correlation between NMS and destiny other than they both include spaceships, the author of this blog is clearly out of touch with reality and even struggle to make a glimpse of a point.

Story quality? --> WTF?
Like this website? --> No

[MrDead]

N4G should make their approvers give reasons for approving articles like they have to for failing them. If they did 99% of these useless opinion pieces could be eradicated and we wouldn’t have to sift through monumental amounts of crud to find some gaming news.

I didn’t learn anything from this article apart from if you put doubt about an anticipated game in your title you get some cheap hits.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

What does Destiny have to do with No Mans.... Story Quality WTF indeed...

[Ron_Danger]

In other news...

Does the upcoming Super Bowl spell Doom for the auto industry?

Looks like I've got a bright future at inverse.com!

[freshslicepizza]

will no mans sky require you to be connected to get the full enjoyment of the game? maybe that's the connection other than that i don't see one.

there sure seems to be a lot of destiny talk recently.

[creeping judas]

@MrDead, it seems most contributors by passed the approval of this flamebait article, as it was only approved with 3 approvals. Which means it sat there for a very long time. So I can only assume it was friends of the article writer who approved the article.

And as everyone else has said, the two games have nothing to do with each other, and are in fact polar opposites of each other, only having space, planets and spaceships as a common denominator.

[nveenio]

Destiny just made me want No Man's Sky even more.

[SatanicEyeJesus]

Agreed lets try to filter a little of what is being presented here.

Story quality? --> WTF?
Like this website? --> No

[Griever]

Why does it looks like that a certain group actually wants No Man's Sky to flop? We frequently get articles about how the game might be a disappointment or underwhelming or a massive flop. This is reaching somewhat the hate level of Order 1886. Everybody wanted that game to flop so bad and now similar treatment is being given to No Man's Sky.

[freshslicepizza]

@Griever
"Why does it looks like that a certain group actually wants No Man's Sky to flop?"

what group are you talking about that the author is a member of?

"We frequently get articles about how the game might be a disappointment or underwhelming or a massive flop."

probably because there has been so much hype with little information in regards to what you actually do in the game. is most of the hype surrounded by the fact it's such a large scale game that people imagine exploring for years with no two planets the same while they ignore that it might actually be boring?

"This is reaching somewhat the hate level of Order 1886. Everybody wanted that game to flop so bad and now similar treatment is being given to No Man's Sky"

the order flopped because it was a game hyped mainly by graphics to showcase the power of the ps4 and nothing more. a game hindered by such extreme linear fashion with a bunch of qte and cutscense that slowed the immersion of actually playing a game. or are you going to blame all those average reviews on them belonging to a certain group too?

[IamTylerDurden1]

There is no parallel, and Destiny is doing just fine.

NMS is entirely different.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Agreed. My condolences to the author.

[awi5951]

Bungie never listen to its customers with halo so it doesnt surprise me. We asked for the Halo one pistol and grenades back for years and they would only give it back halfassed and nerfed so it would be useless.

[Jonin7Spartan]

" Destiny is doing just fine." Have you seen the Forums lately (you know, Bungie forums). What you said in an outright LIE.
- I agree that NMS is completely different from Destiny.

@Awi5951 - have you not played Reach, the Pistol is great in that, everything is balanced. Also pistols in Destiny were also OP for quite awhile.

[3-4-5]

Worst title ever.

That is like saying " People really like hamburgers, .....this the end of the hotdog."

or " People really watched a lot of NFL this year, does this mean the MLB,NBA, NHL & Premier league are doomed? "

Who are these lousy writers ?

Have they no skill ?

[ShottyatLaw]

It's a terrible title, but the proposition in the article is interesting enough.

The author's comparison between NMS and Destiny (as well as MMOs like WoW) seems to be that both belong to this broad genre of slow-burn, long-term investment titles. The "full" experience of these games is not your typical 10-15 hour linear adventure, nor is it indicative of an arguable market shift to quick-and-dirty mobile gaming.

The author's general premise is mainly based on the shrinking player bases for WoW and Destiny. Does this mean that there won't be an audience for a title like NMS, which has an appeal based so strongly on slowly enjoying a longer, more casual adventure?

Personally, I do not think so. Maybe I'm optimistic, but I don't think the audience that enjoys this type of experience has gone anywhere. WoW grew stale. Destiny failed to deliver the correct amount of content to keep players retained.

Gamers move on when the products fail to deliver what they seek. To me, it's not so much that players want entirely new game types, but simply want a game within that genre to deliver for them (even if the genre is a very broad one like the author is trying to identify here).

I gave up on Destiny already (and many MMOs in the past), but I can't wait to dig into NMS. It's still at the top of my 2016 list. If it doesn't deliver, I won't suddenly stop enjoying that type of experience; I will simply look for another game that delivers it.

[PSN_ZeroOnyx]

A much better comparison would be between Destiny and The Division.

[CorndogBurglar]

The big differenc is that the NMS dvs have said you will be start anywhere from 40 - a couple hundred of hours away from the center of the universe, which is the big mystery of the game....what is there?

Assuming you do only the bare minimum needed to continue upgrading your ship enough to make it there, that is how long it could take, but realistically it will take people longer.

People played Destiny for about a year and a half straight and millions of people have put well over 500 hours into it. If that is any indicator then NMS will be fine. The big question is "Can NMS keep people's attention as long as Destiny did." For me the answer is however long it takes before all the planets and life-forms start looking alike, or repeating certain characteristics.

[vikingland1]

@ Shottyatlaw

Author should've changed headline to something else though. I get the premise of the aricle but the headline doesn't convey it well.

[ShottyatLaw]

@ Zero, Corndog, & Viking

100% agree with each of your points.

It's frustrating that clickbait titles ruin any chance we have to actually discuss games and the industry in interesting ways.

[FITgamer]

This articled should of been failed as soon as the mods read the title. What a joke.

[rainslacker]

Obviously it spells the doom of other games though. Like WOW, Paragon, whatever other MMO type game there is out there./s

What a stupid question this article asks. Might as well ask if Destiny's decline spells doom for Super Mario Kart.

All online games have slumps, and there is nothing to say that it won't pick back up again if Bungie listens to it's fan base, and makes a compelling game.

If NMS fails, then it will be on it's own accord, not because a 2 year old game is on the decline. NMS isn't even comparable to destiny as an MMO. It's more a SP game with an online component. I mean, would something like Bloodborne be doomed because of Destiny's decline?

[C-H-E-F]

I thought Destiny was in decline since release? this isn't news hmph. and this is like me comparing the decline in nba live to the potential success of 2k

[OhMyGandhi]

At first, I agreed with you.
I was like, "No Man's Sky" has nothing to do with Destiny. And then I read the article.

The author states what everyone here has stated, further down the page:

"While there are major fundamental differences between No Man’s Sky and MMOs, they share evergreen engagement and long-term investment in their respective appeals to players."

He continues to mention that there are vast differences between the two games. What the author (I believe) was getting at, was the idea of going against the grain in favor of pure ambition, and what happens to those who don't listen to feedback from the first say of preproduction to a full release.

I really enjoyed the article. I really wish people read past the N4G heading, and actually bothered to read it.

[Pogmathoin]

Ridiculous article.... Crying out for NMS...

[Neonridr]

well I don't know how it can spell doom for a game that hasn't been released yet. If No Man's Sky provides enough content and reason to continue playing, then it will do fine.

It is exactly the limited content that is starting to cause Destiny fans to shift away to other games.

So to answer the question, if No Man's Sky is structured in the same model as Destiny, which would be quite a feat since they are completely different games, then sure, that would be bad news for No Man's Sky. But since it is a different kind of game with different mechanics, all I can say is that we will have to wait to try the game to see if there is enough there to sustain itself.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Destiny sold 20m copies, it's not an mmo service player count is bound to drop. Between all the dlc, TTK, SRL, events, Crucible, and main game Destiny has plenty of content. It could use more planets and story, but most avid Destiny players have logged hundreds of hours. It's like BL2 in a sense.

How long are people supposed to play Destiny? There are other games as well. Millions of people hold their Guardians near and dear and aren't willing to give up on them. The next iteration of Destiny will sell just fine.

[Neonridr]

Destiny has become a snore fest. This coming from someone who has logged hundreds of hours, was there from the Alpha, and has 3 characters that are all 319 light level. There is no regular content outside of the raid that gives me any sort of value or reason to actually do it. All the drops are pointless, they haven't updated the old content to higher levels - why not give us a 300 light level Vault of Glass or Crota's End?.

I am not saying I didn't get value from it, but if this sort of piecemeal content is the norm for Destiny 2 or whatever, then count me out this time.

[rainslacker]

Even unlimited content can get boring to players. Gamers often seek out new stuff, even if they're dedicated to progressing in an online MMO. If an MMO has a lot of content, they take longer to get bored, but eventually they will. Same will happen for NMS eventually, and how long that takes depends on how compelling and varied the content is. Sure it sounds great to explore and find new things, but even if that was infinite, people would just grow tired of it.

It's not really the amount of content, it's about the lack of new experiences. Games often become samey after a while. WOW keeps itself alive by mixing it up from time to time...for better or worse, and it has a vast lore that gets people interested. Bungie itself would do well to explore the aspect of lore more deeply, since I understand it has a good one...because you get people to care about that, and the characters behind it, and somehow make them a part of that lore, and you have a recipe to retain players. All they have to do is look at WOW. People flock to it because people are interested in how it progresses. In Destiny, you are just not part of all that to the same degree, and the content is limited. WOW isn't perfect by any means, but there's a reason it's the most popular MMO, there's a reason that it's been around so long, and there's a reason that people often seem to keep coming back to it.

[IamTylerDurden1]

WoW is a subscription based pc mmo, Destiny is an mmo-like console FPS. You buy WoW and then pay $15 per month to continue playing it, they damn well better add new content for over $150/yr in subscription fees alone. Destiny is a game, not a subscription. After a year and a half people are bound to get jaded, but if you got hundreds of hours of enjoyment out of it i'd say you got your moneys worth.

If people get even 60 hours of enjoyment out of NMS before they become jaded, i'd say they got their moneys worth as well. Non subscription based games aren't expected to hold your attention forever.

[rainslacker]

No doubt. I didn't mean to insinuate otherwise. I was just saying that eventually, people seek out new things.

As far as Destiny though, they had a ten year content plan for it. While it's not sub based, there are expansion packs.

[Rearden]

WTF?

[Eonjay]

You know... like if I have chicken for dinner, you might burn you toast in the morning.... same logic I think.

[Ezz2013]

Reading the headline i was like
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e...

[uth11]

Or you could flip it around and ask if the runaway success of Force Awakens mean a space exploration game like NMS will be a huge hit?

But really, none have anything to do with each other.NMS will rise or fall on its own merits

[wellard]

We could also ask pointless questions like, does Argentinas renewed political interest in the Falkland islands spell doom for the division?

Does the buyout of Cadburys by kraft spell doom for Uncharted 4?

What a silly article,

[Kingdomcome247]

Lol!

[uth11]

"Does Doom spell Doom 'D-O-O-M'?"

[rainslacker]

Why even ask anymore? We all know everything is doomed. Consoles, games, gamers, MMO's, COD, FFVIIR, VR, creative thought, Dr. Doom, sexy game characters, physical media, the planet, the new Batman movie, the next Star Wars movie, my pet bunny rabbit, and everything else in this life that we hold dear. Ironically, the only thing that will probably succeed is the new Doom game.

[T1ttyMunch3r]

Umm uhhh... the only similarities i can see are planets and spaceships...

[rainslacker]

Destiny's decline is obviously indicative of people's lack of interest in those things. After the epicness of the last Star Wars movie, it's obvious that nothing will ever top that, so how can we be excited for more planets and spaceships. Maybe Destiny can start focusing on row boats and porta potties to liven things up.

[Cy]

Um, people aren't turning away from Destiny because of "mobile and MOBAs" they're turning away because there's nothing to do once you reach a certain level. This happens to every FPS, and every MMO that doesn't consistently add new content. NMS is an exploration game, and if you want to compare a console exploration game to another console exploration game, compare NMS to Elite: Dangerous. This is one of the stupidest things I've read recently, and I've been following a lot of politics over the past few weeks.

[Khaotic]

People want a steady stream of quality content, no microtransaction ridden special events. If they provided this people would still play. If tou read the same book 5 times in a row you get bored. If you have 10 books in a series then you are set for months. These games get stale if content cant be released in a steady stream

[Errorist76]

This must be most senseless headline I saw on here in a while... Seriously WTF?!

[gangsta_red]

NMS concept is excellent and great but I have a feeling it will get old fast.

But we still haven't seen a lot of the game. I really want to know will you be able to discover actual humanoid like aliens or working civilizations...or will they all be alien wild life preserves?

[Lon3wolf]

Well there are factions that are AI in the game but we have only seen them fight in space craft.

[DigitalRaptor]

If you think it will get old fast, then I think what you are expecting and what the devs are shooting for, as well as what the fans that know exactly why they are looking forward to it, is completely incompatible.

BOUNDLESS ( https://www.youtube.com/wat... ) looks closer to what you seem to be wishing from No Man's Sky. Luckily, both are heading to PS4 and PC in 2016.

[gangsta_red]

Doesn't matter what the fans know , what the devs are shooting for, it all SOUNDS good in theory. But we do not know if that execution will be fun or if it will even last long enough for players to still hold interest 2 or 3 years from now...let alone 10.

That is the problem with NMS that I am seeing. How long will people play before it gets boring? How long can you explore endless planets before they all start looking the same? How long will you grind to update your ship only to repeat the process over and over again without any real progress or goal in sight?

Boundless looks horrible, sorry, going to have to pass on that game. Thanks for the promo though.

[DigitalRaptor]

It kinda matters what the fans know to expect or not expect. It kinda does. Ignoring released information speaks for itself. The devs have a vision, fans know what to expect from what they've shown and told us, and if people find what the devs are creating to be fun, because of their personal tastes then so be that. If you build up an expectation of what the devs are NOT creating and have expressly said they're not creating, you will be disappointed and this game will be short lived for you.

If you don't find sci-fi exploration fun and endearing, then you might possibly get bored after 2 or 3 years..... It's still remarkable that you would consider that a short amount of time to get bored of a single player game that is not even a AAA game. There are some tremendous AAA games that people play and get bored of within a week, and stop playing - any game has the same potential so I’m not sure why you’re levelling it here. Sean Murray has also expressed interest in creating a multiplayer addition once he's completed the base game. So there's already a hint for future expansion.

On PC, there's even more potential with mod support.
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"How long will people play before it gets boring?" - As I already said, the same can be said for any game.

"How long can you explore endless planets before they all start looking the same?" - Do you know? Sounds like you're reaching for excuses and reasons to complain here.

"How long will you grind to update your ship only to repeat the process over and over again without any real progress or goal in sight?" - There's more to do than upgrade your ship. We already know what the overarching goal of the game is - but i'll let you find that out for yourself, because it’s been reiterated enough times.
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What about Boundless do you think looks horrible? And by ”promo”…. you must mean trailer. Boundless and No Man's Sky are both multiplatform games and will be available to play on PC. If a game looks interesting to me, I will talk about it. And FYI, I brought that game up because you mentioned “actual humanoid like aliens or working civilizations”, which that trailer has displayed.

[jb227]

@gangsta

"we do not know if that execution will be fun or if it will even last long enough for players to still hold interest 2 or 3 years from now...let alone 10."

Who set the metric that a game like NMS has to hold gamers interest for 10 years to be considered successful? Destiny & NMS are completely different experiences. NMS is not an MMO & its likely that you may never see another player as the universe is so big. This game would be more akin to something like The Witcher crossed w/ Journey functionality. It is a game meant to be played solo that can allow for players to cross paths. Would you consider The Witcher to be a failure if there is no "community" in 10 years? The community is irrelevant to NMS beyond interesting encounters. NMS only needs to sell in the here & now to be successful and gamers only need to understand that this game is nothing like Destiny & the prevalence of other gamers in the universe is entirely irrelevant. Not like a Halo mp match that would require other players to work.

As far as how long the grind can be enjoyable, you could literally say the exact thing about any other rpg, different people will get different fills of that stuff. The objective of the game is to reach the center of the universe, everything else is just part of the journey.

[gangsta_red]

@Digital

All you're doing is speculating as I am too.

We all know what this game is trying to accomplish, what we don't know is if that will be successful, we don't know if it will actually be fun, we don't even know if the game will even be played a year or two from now. Maybe it will, maybe it won't.

But please don't sit there and say I or others are building up some high expectations the devs are not creating when you have little clue of how the game plays out yourself.

"If you don't find sci-fi exploration fun and endearing, then you might possibly get bored after 2 or 3 years"

If every planet is the same just with a different skin, if all you do is collect the same resources, if you have the potential to not meet any other player as the dev suggested than yes...sci-fi exploration will get boring in 2 to 3 years.

"...any game has the same potential so I’m not sure why you’re levelling it here."

Because it's an article about NMS, comparing it to the supposed decline of interest in Destiny for some of the same reasons I expressed in my comment.

"What about Boundless do you think looks horrible?"

I don't like the style or what was shown. It's not a game for me, I don't have any interest in playing this for my PS4. So thanks for promoting Sony's up and coming games but that's a game I have no interest in.

@jb227

"Who set the metric that a game like NMS has to hold gamers interest for 10 years to be considered successful?"

I don't know, who said that a game had to hold a player's interest for 10 years for it to be successful? I sure didn't.

"you could literally say the exact thing about any other rpg,"

Except I am literally not talking about any other rpg.

"The objective of the game is to reach the center of the universe,"

And exactly how long will that take? And how long will that keep a player's interest if they keep doing the same repetitive thing over and over and over again.

[rainslacker]

There is a point where people just stop caring.

Lets say NMS has billions of planets, but of all those, there is only 10 variations that you will see. So eventually they get boring and you stop caring to explore them.

Or, Lets say NMS has billions of planets, and hundreds of millions of variations. Well, great, lots of content, but if those variations don't afford much to do, you stop caring to explore them.

But, lets say there are billions of planets, and hundreds of millions of variations, AND an engaging game play mechanic in which to explore those planets, then well, eventually people will stop caring because it just gets old after a while.

Biggest thing for player retention is having engaging content. For a long term MMO, that has to come from many different directions. Lots of variety in what there is to explore. Engaging and immersive game play which offers up enough variety so you have to adapt. In some cases, a good story, to help people to care about what they're doing beyond the "wow factor" which is what the first 2 examples show as what people get bored of. There needs to be variety on how you are allowed to play the game. For instance, you should be able to do nothing but space battles if you want, or you can become a trader of materials from unexplored worlds, and forge your experiance in the way you want to, and not the way the developers insist you do it.

From what I see, it would appear Destiny wants players to forge ahead by a rather rigid and limited interaction with the world. People have grown bored of that, and since there isn't another way to progress, they move on. Then of course, people are getting to the point where the content isn't that engaging, so they're playing less.

All Bungie has to do is fix a couple problems with engagement. You'd think being published by Activision, they could maybe get some help from Blizzard who are pretty adept at player retention..and even then they can lapse.

As far as NMS, hard to judge the quality of the content as of now. We haven't seen enough. I like the premise, but what little has been show has been impressive in some ways, but not in others, so for me, it's a waiting game with me staying on the optimistic side until more info is released...or I play the game.

[Aenea]

How many games are actually able to keep a player interested in playing it for years on end? Not that many.

Destiny tried to be such a game but seems to me it's currently failing. NMS isn't trying to be such a game at all.

I'm expecting to have a lot of fun with NMS for a while, but I don't think it will keep me occupied even for 2 months, and that's okay by me! If the time I spend with it is really enjoyable I've had my money's worth...

Comparing these 2 games is silly...

[shammgod]

What?

[Eonjay]

I found an explanation:
https://www.facebook.com/li...

[shammgod]

it all makes sense now. Thanks!

[Lon3wolf]

Eh? Talk about chalk and cheese.

[averagejoe26]

Whoever wrote this lacks simple logic and reasoning skills. Don't waste your time with it.

[OrangePowerz]

What a stupid article. Maybe they want to gather feedback for the future? WoW asks you always why you quit if you cancel your subscription. Plenty of MMOs send out mails like that when you don't play for a while. Guess they don't get attention because there is less bias towards those games.

[Omnisonne]

I'd hate to use this image again but..

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entri...

[Kingdomcome247]

Will Titanfall 2 have a single player campaign if Nathan Drake dies in Uncharted 4? All these burning questions answered, and more in the next installment from inverse.com ????!!!! The site's name is apt, I guess... I admittedly didn't read the article, and they may have had something akin to an actual point somewhere within the article, but their baffling title ensured that myself, along with many others, I presume would never get that far to find out.

[HeartlessGamer]

LOL what?

[OC_MurphysLaw]

100% my reaction. What? How? Why....oh yeah clicks. Never mind. How anyone came up with this question / hypothesis is beyond me.

[Guyfamily999]

Well, I'd say the decline of Destiny mainly stems from lack of content and shady business practices, especially microtransactions. I don't think No Man's Sky will have those issues.

And more importantly, No Man's Sky doesn't require an active playerbase, in terms of gameplay or financials. Destiny needs players to keep its matchmaking populated and for there to be people to raid with. It also tries to keep people addicted so they'll buy the next expansion/game.

Hello games (I'd like to believe) will make their money by people purchasing their wonderful game, not manipulating people's addictive tendencies and milking their wallets.

[Trilithon]

what a stupid article. omg people aren't playing old games... DOES THAT MEAN THEY WONT PLAY A NEW GAME?!

[Goldby]

no actually becuase people aren't playing old games, there's going to be an increase in costs to develop and maintain proper standards for creating waffle cones...

some people just dont see things right in front of them... /s

[Deepfell]

Let's see, I need to get paid....I know I'll just write a piece of incendiary rubbish that will get me noticed but has no real merit whatsoever.....Despite your efforts at demonizing NMS it will sell just fine....

[arkard]

That's like saying with Football season set to end this weekend, will people still watch hockey?

[CobraKai]

Imma gonna start comparing apples to crowbars too...

Fant4stic sucked, it will spell doom for Gran Turismo.

[alfcrippinjr]

where did they go wrong

well they really fucked up destiny bigtime

could had been a hit if they made it offline campaign with a good story.

now we get no mans land
if this is offline play with a story mode then it will do very well

but will die with in the year if they decided online play only

not everyone has internet

these companys have to start making these games offline play with a story mode
rather then bullshit online only crap

[DigitalRaptor]

Pure garbage article.

Destiny is a multiplayer shooter. No Man's Sky is an exploration game.

How can anyone have the mind to publish such tripe?

[Pongwater]

Wow, whoa, and what the…?

[dragonopt1]

Surprised people still played it to be honest. The gameplay was great but lack of content seriously killed it for me.

[FPS_D3TH]

How the hell did we get here again??

[Chaosdreams]

I'm sorry but what? What kind of question is that?

You do zero research, come up with a stupid question and then call it a day. Priceless quality of effort right here.

[ArnoDorian]

[](/facehoof)
there two different titles, who approved this?

[frostypants]

What is this I don't even...

Just...

Wtf?

[Whirlwind_Fanfare_08]

Uhhh, WTF?!?!

[teo72]

Absolutely not! Destiny is a online game with limited contents in one very limited solar system. No Man's Sky is a online game with enough contents equivilant to 500-600 billion years on 18,5 quintillion planets in one huge galaxy.

[cash_longfellow]

What does Destiny have to do with No Man's Sky? This is a joke right?

[JoeMcCallister]

Alternatively: "Does the decline of Last of Us mean that third person action games set on earth are doomed" or "since no one is playing left 4 dead anymore, is the zombie genre dead" - come on man - couldn't be further from a relevant argument. Not even a discussion to be had.

[FN4GM]

I stopped eating apples the other day, so I guess I'll never eat oranges again either.

[KingKevo]

How did you come up with the ide for that article?

"Well... uhm, Destiny has players leaving. It's a space game. No Man's Sky is as well. So, will people even play that game. Yeah, that sounds like a solid article."

But seriously. Those games couldn't be any more different.

[r3f1cul]

i dont get this... wtf did they expect? the game is ancient now, and it isnt coming out with anymore meaningful content... did they expect people to keep playing out of the kindness of their hearts or something when all kinds of newer great games keep coming out month after month? i mean seriously ...

[rezzah]

I bet NMS will have a better story than Destiny.

[Clown_Syndr0me]

Does the decline of Battlefield Hardline spell doom for FIFA?

[killer_goat]

What a random article. It must be a very very slow news day.

[rocketpanda]

The question should be, how high was the writer when the article was being written?

[ps5fanboy]

Come now , I'm sure no man's sky can spell doom , a child could....
But in all seriousness? Wtf.

[Night99]

Yes Destiny wasn't this the supposed to be next big smash-hit-game-wonder for the next decade? But sadly after one year no one cared for it anymore, Activision and the former glory Bungie buried it with their greed and boring repetitive gameplay and worst story campaign ever.

[Malacath]

If No mans sky fails it will because the game turns out to be crap.

It will have nothing to do with Destiny. I've stopped playing Destiny too. Doesn't mean I wont get No Mans sky if it gets a lot of praise when released.

[PSN_ZeroOnyx]

Why not compare Destiny and The Division? I know it's a radical concept, but comparing two somewhat similar games actually make more since.

[UgoGalimbertti]

lol The article is trending for the absurd it says. This comparison makes no sense at all

[MCTJim]

Where did you go wrong? Its called lack of content...nothing more.

[GrimDragon]

Wow talk about bobbing for apples smh.

[dmonee]

No man's sky will fail on it's own. It has nothing to do with destiny. Having seen it at an event, I can honestly say,"What is the point of this?" The developer has kept some things secret though. We will have to wait and see.

[mochachino]

WTF

NO

Hope to never see you again inverse.com

[NeoGamer232]

There are two things that a game like No Man's Sky has to do to keep the interest of gamers.

1) They need to make sure their is purpose to the game or that the gamer can create purpose.
2) They have to make sure the content of the game continues to evolve and that the content is tied to purpose.

The problem I have with Destiny is purpose. What is the sense in playing the game? There are MP mission that you do stuff, but they are all the same types of missions with the same purpose. Once you've been through a raid a few times it gets old. Once you've played a location a few times it gets old, etc. You have to add new purpose to the game. And items in the game aren't a purpose. It has to be something more.

[fllysurfer]

Well of course it does!!!!

I mean definately, since NMS is really Destiny 2 !

[Dyldog69]

Dafuq?

[jmc8888]

Well let's see. The game started out fine... then you hit the part where you had to find fireteams for everything, and the game fell off a cliff...

Lots of people still hung in there despite the lack of content, nerfs, and changing what you grind for. Feels great to spend tens or I bet for some people hundreds of hours to stockpile certain things... only for them to be made basically worthless with updates.

With every expansion pack people hoped for a sufficient amount of content. Nope. Just small piecemeal crap.

They hoped for some changes to make the game better... and they delivered on some of them. But it wasn't enough. More people left. Of course since many people wanted to try it out the numbers stayed pretty good, as tons joined to replace the tons lost. But the key point is... tons fled.

This despite pretty much everyone could agree that actual gunplay was fun. Imagine that.

So many people stayed in thinking that the lack of content was from them rushing it out the door and that it would be fixed in season 2. Nope.

Literally I bet if you added up all the content from launch until now, it still would be seen as a fairly light game content wise.

In fact, you could get more content for free on Warframe.

Now some are holding out hope for Destiny 2. But I think lots of people are done with it. They don't want to get sucked into a grind for little reason other to play a smattering of content over and over again, and only if you have friends who can play it with you and you meet up outside the game to make it happen.

It all boils down to for ease of access for some, and for the diehards lack of content.

Still no matchmaking. Still a lack of content. Still a grind (which you can't get away from, and eventually sinks every game like this as people tire of it... well they tire of it more when it's so repetitive). Still changes that nerf and waste your time.

They wanted this game to last 10 years? Well it's not going to with what amounts to 2...maybe 3 games worth of content over 10 years. People simply aren't going to grind that, and the fact they make it so inaccessible is the dumbest thing ever.

Destiny in a nutshell:
Here please play this same thing over and over, while the loot you got while grinding we make worthless, and you have to take the time to find people outside the game to play, and we charge you an arm and a leg to do it.

If you bought everything as it came and got the discounts... $60 game, $35 expansion pass, $40 Year 2.

Add that up and multiply by 5, since they plan on this game lasting 10 years...and you come to the discounted price of $675 to grind this small content, unfriendly accessible, changing rules game.

No Man's Sky isn't Destiny.

It's about exploration as much or as little as you want which then your discoveries are sent back to alter the existing universe.

It'll be a fun game to play around in, but I think some people are missing the point. No Man's Sky isn't a MMO. It's not something that's going to last for many people. It's a game where you have some exploration fun, and perhaps pick back up once in a blue moon to explore some more. The art style and vibrant colors look nice. You actually get to take off and land and get to name stuff.

It's just completely different, with completely different scopes, different structures, different goals.

This article is like saying....the future of Call of Duty is in trouble because Super Mario Bros didn't sell well on the Wii U.

[jmc8888]

The lack of matchmaking is going to get worse over time. Since so many people tire out of the grind, those players people play with, stop responding. Those fireteams wither, and then more and more people are going to quit because no one else they know plays it. Sure many will go to those 3rd party websites to hook up, but that is SO STUPID to need to do. I've been with fireteams and with randoms, and quite frankly... randoms didn't quit much more often then fireteams.

Without matchmaking I wholly didn't want to play anymore. I don't want to be sucked into a grind. I want to play at my own pace and not get pressured into joining a game I don't want to play. I've got to many other games to play and other stuff in my life. Peer pressure to play a game that grinds is not what I want out of a game. It becomes a chore. I want to have fun, not scrub the floors. So without matchmaking allowing me to play as I pleased, and making me jump through hoops, I left. They won't get a dime more from me.

Now that I'm so far behind, that grind seems enormous to make up. So even if they changed and allowed matchmaking, and massively upped the content, I don't think I could ever get back in. They missed their chance to keep me playing. They missed their chance with many millions. They squandered it, because they rushed it out the door before fleshing out the game.

I want to play a game, not jump through hoops, pay a ton of money, to grind a shallow content game.

Again I don't see No Man's Sky as that at all. They get right what Destiny and Bungie got wrong.

I can explore and explore and explore something new, and name it. SO even if much of the content rhymes with other things, it is new and unique.

I will be able to pick up and put it down. I won't have to go searching on a website for others to play it, or have to 'make friends' with people and have them harass me into playing the game.

I won't have to worry about rules changes that waste tens or hundreds of my hours. Nor do I have to worry about buying a ton of expansion packs, or four more games to continue it all.

Now maybe they will have some sort of DLC, but it won't be like pay $60, then $35 more, then $40 more... then buy four more games and expansion passes and year two's on all of them... just to keep your game going.

In that way No Man's Sky is the complete opposite. 16.8 quintillion locations for $60 or whatever it ends up being priced at. Compared to a few raids played a quintillion amount of times because of the lack of content on Destiny and being asked to spend over and over and over again or else everything I did is wasted.

Don't forget, if you don't buy the expansion passes, the base game gets screwed for you. The base Destiny game right now is worse then it was at launch because they took some of the raid options away from you.

I'm pretty sure No Man's Sky isn't going to screw you over a few months after launch and say half the universe is off limits because (like the Raids) you didn't pay for the expansion.

The more I think about it, the more I think No Man's Sky is the antithesis of Destiny.

[peshkavusCA]

should have just made it stand alone game :)