Is Nintendo Making a Mistake Releasing a New Zelda for a Dead System?

Because Nintendo is gearing up to lay one of their worst selling systems to rest, what does that mean for Zelda?

[ShadowKnight]

I don't think so. They can release it on both systems (Wii U and NX).

[MSBAUSTX]

Even if it only released on the Wii U, which I don't think it will at this point, it will sell like mad. If the sales of Smash, Mario Kart and even Hyrule warriors have shown us anything it is that Nintendo Wii U owners support and rally behind Nintendo exclusives. This would be the biggest game to hit Wii U to date. There are ten million or so Wii Us out there. If only 30 percent of those owners bought the New Zelda game on Wii U it would sell over three million copies. That would mean it would be a great success. So I don't really see the problem. Nintendo already said they are making money off of all game sales. If they make a 25 percent profit from the sale of one copy that would mean they are making $15 per copy. Multiply that by the about 3 million copies possibly sold and they make upwards of 45 million dollars. Conservatively divide that in half and they only make 22.5 million dollars. Would that mean it was a mistake? I think not. They still make millions of dollars.

[Yi-Long]

I believe there are a lot of people, like me, who have been on the fence for a long time about getting a WiiU (as a 2nd current-gen console) or not, and never did pick it up in the end, while waiting for games like Zelda WiiU.

If Zelda releases as a launch-title for the NX, that basically guarantees a lot of those doubters now getting that system at launch. I know I would, unless Nintendo somehow royally messes that up again.

I believe it might be a cross-gen game, so releasing on both WiiU & NX, but at this late moment, if it ONLY releases on WiiU, that would simply mean I wouldn't be buying it, cause unless the WiiU ends up very very cheap, I would prefer just buying an NX instead.

[pivotplease]

If NX does turn out to be their next-gen system and has Wii U backwards compatibility...I won't buy it. Not after being burned by the U's short life cycle.

[Ilovetheps5]

Yi-Long, if they haven't been able to convince you to buy the Wii U yet, I don't know what to tell you. You were a lost cause from the beginning. The Wii U has a fantastic library. I enjoy it more than my PS4 most of the time.

[Yi-Long]

@ILoveThePS4: I absolutely know the WiiU has some fantastic games, and I fully intended to buy a WiiU in 2015 for Xenoblade X and Zelda WiiU, but obviously Zelda WiiU got postponed and Xenoblade X didn't have the original Japanese voices (which to me is a deal-breaker, regardless of how others will think about that).

In the end, I have to make a decision on how I want to spend my money, and if that is on a 300€ WiiU which has 5-10 games I'm interested in, but of which most of those are still very much priced at 45-55€, or if I'll stick with my PS4 and by the games I'm interested in for that console, often after 6-12 months, when they're 15-30€.

Also obviously considering the huge backlog I already have.

Like I said, if the WiiU would have had the 2 games I mentioned out last year (Xeno X with Japanese voices, and Zelda WiiU), those would have been system-sellers for me, but now I think I prefer to wait and see what the NX will be all about, hoping Nintendo has learned from it's mistakes and doesn't focus on a gimmick-based console again.

[Realplaya]

I think your numbers are off.

[bouzebbal]

they did the same with Twilight Princess on NGC. What's wrong with that? People having NGC got the chance to experience one more great 1st party title.

[MSBAUSTX]

@YI-LONG

It isn't like the system is still 300. You can get bundles that come with two games all over the states still. That is essentially two free games valued at around $100 or it can be like you are paying $200 for the system and $100 for two games. Either way it is a bit of a misrepresentation to claim that the Wii U is still 300.

[Yi-Long]

@MSBAux, here in Holland, it's still priced pretty steeply, often around the 300€, and that usually comes with 32GB HDD and 1-2 games, but often those are not both games I'm actually interested in.

Also, you will also have to take into account that you probably need an extra HDD to really use the system to it's full potential, when it comes to owning and regularly playing multiple games.

The WiiU has some amazing games who absolutely interest me, but when most of them are still priced at 45-55€, I'm simply a bit hesitant to buy into the system. I did already buy The Wonderful 101 when it was only 15€ and I expected to buy the WiiU, and of some more of the games I'm interested in drop to 25-30 euro, I will absolutely still consider buying a WiiU, but TBH I really just hope the NX will be backwards compatible, and that Nintendo won't repeat the same mistakes they did with the Wii and WiiU.

[MSBAUSTX]

@Yi

An external HD is necessary if you want to download a lot of games true. But that is true of all three next gen systems. I have a 2TB hooked up to my XB1 and the 500GB in the XB1 is full and the 2 TB is half full. I have a 300GB external hooked up to the Wii U and it mainly holds games I have downloaded. But the DLC for these Ninty games is far smaller than anything on the other two consoles. You won't ever see a 20 or 50 GB day one patch. I play all my Wii U games mainly on Disc. I prefer it that way. Only reason I have HDs hooked up to the PS4 and XB1 is because I download virtually anything they give for free. LOL.

I do understand what you're saying though. My main point is that it is an expense you would have to buy for any of the new systems. Also I would mention that those games are priced that way because they are great and fun. You can literally buy them at that price and just about sell them after beating them for the same price. Can't do that with COD games.

[Loadedklip]

Smash has less than 5 million on Wii U.

Mario Kart has about 5 million but this is a franchise that sold 40 million last gen and over 10 million on 3DS.

My point? It's not that impressive in sales due to the small user base of the Wii U.

The Wii U holds back potential sales due to its limited user base.

Zelda I would assume actually COST more to make than Smash or Mario Kart thus if it gets hurt as much as those games have on Wii U ... it's actually hurting it more when you take into account the cost of making the game.

[MSBAUSTX]

@Loaded
It is still almost a fifty percent attach rate for MK8 and a 40 percent for smash! Wii sold almost 100 million units last gen and 40 million MK games. That is about 40 percent. The ratio is the exact same my friend. No matter how you spin it the Wii U has the same attach rate when it comes to its supporters buying games.

So what is Nintendo supposed to do. Stop making games completely for the Wii U in essence screwing everyone by not giving it a full life cycle support? What kind of respect and support do you think NX would get if they dropped production for the Wii U and didn't release this LOZ game which they said they would?

When games sell in the 2 to 3 million copy range, which this one will, and for 60 bucks a pop we are talking around 180 million dollars. If only 10 percent of that was profit they would be making 18 million dollars. That is at only 3 million sold and a low 10 percent profit margin.

No matter what they will make money off of this game and give their supporters and fans the game they promised. It would be suicide for them to not release it for Wii U because it would in essence lose millions of potential NX supporters. There is a big picture here and Nintendo is looking at it. Invest in your supporters and the future. Not just the future.

[pcz]

i think its commercial suicide.

nintendo dont mind throwing millions down the drain, it seems

[Concertoine]

It wont do as well as say, Twilight Princess but it wont be a financial failure. Games have no problem selling in the multi-millions on Wii U.

I wonder what people would be saying if they didnt release it on Wii U?

"Nintendo abandoned its fans and console" sounds a whole lot worse than "Nintendo is releasing Zelda on Wii U."

[garrettbobbyferguson]

@Concertoine

Twilight Princess released on both the Gamecube and the Wii at the same time.

[3-4-5]

They will get sales of it on Wii U & then on NX, and that money will go towards the new NX Legend of Zelda.

I wouldn't be surprised if they already had a small team starting on NX Legend of Zelda, so that it doesn't take 4 years to arrive on that console.

[jonivtec]

They are working on porting it on NX.People on WII U will have a 720p/30 fps and maybe higher res on the NX...this is what i think they do or should do.

[3-4-5]

It will obviously look better on NX. It is still going to be the best looking Legend of Zelda game ever though when it releases for NX.

[dantesparda]

"Is Nintendo Making a Mistake Releasing a New Zelda for a Dead System?"

No, hells no! Wii U needs this!

[_-EDMIX-_]

Agreed. The point is to make money selling software. The system failing or not means very little. They are already making the game and might as well merely release it on both.

Gamecube failing didn't stop Twilight Princess..

[kotaku77]

yeah that way they keep their promises

[kupomogli]

@abzdiine

Yeah. A month later after the Wii owners did. Nintendo giving a big f you to their fans of the previous console. This is despite the game already being delayed for over a year because they were porting it over to the Wii.

That's actually around the time I've grown to hate Nintendo. I was interested in Twilight Princess as well as a couple of other first party exclusives that were cancelled and moved over to the Wii. I still purchase their handhelds and consoles because of the third party games and some first party games I'm still interested in, but I don't like the company because they quite clearly show their fanbase they don't appreciate them in the least on a regular basis. Too many anti consumer sales tactics.

[MSBAUSTX]

But the GC had a full lifespan as far as Nintendo is concerned. Also it isn't like every other major console developer doesn't do the same thing with games. The last Guardian was supposed to be a PS3 game. It has gotten pushed drastically, Rhodea has been pushed to Wii U, and look at the rash of HD Remasters we have seen rereleased for new consoles because they released at the end of last generation and didn't sell well. This isn't something that Ninty only does. I mean why hate them for giving options? That makes no sense. They supported the loyal GC backers by providing a first party title and supported their customers who backed the new system of the time. I don't see any reason to hate them for taking care of as many people as they could.

[kupomogli]

@MSBAUSTX

There's a difference between a game that was ported over to a new console afterwards and a game that was specifically held back over a year for the console that it was in development for and released on the successor to try and push sales.

Are you honestly defending Nintendo for the one year delay of Twilight Princess AND releasing it on the Wii for a full month before releasing the Gamecube version.

That's only part of why I dislike Nitnendo, and again, I still support their consoles and portables as long as the games are there, but as a company, I despise them. It isn't just that but a long list of what Nintendo does that has disappointed me.

But another thing the games that were cancelled were cancelled around when the Wii released and were all launch window games, so you know they were near completion.

So what about The Last Guardian? Well, the PS4 has been out for over two years and the game still doesn't have a release date. There's your answer right there. It wasn't announced that it was going to be on the PS4 until this E3, which was over a year after the systems launch. It was actually a game I expected was silently cancelled with Sony bsing their fanbase saying it's still in development and then later finding out it really was still in development.

The Last of Us released the same year the PS4 launched, it's not like Sony delayed The Last of Us to push PS4 sales. They just ported it over to the PS4 for release in the following year. Same goes with Rockstar and GTA5, which the PS4 and Xbox One got better textures, first person mode, etc. Same with Dark Souls 2, same with Borderlands 2.

Sony and Microsoft didn't do anything to slap their fans in the face. Microsoft would have, but they didn't go through iwth it because of the massive amount of backlash. Nintendo has most of their fanbase wrapped around their finger and treat them with no respect, following through every bad idea they've had, even when complaints arise.

[kupomogli]

@MSBAUSTX

Nintendo is the same publisher that's removed the ac adapter from the 3DS XL and New 3DS systems with the comment that these gamers can still use their old 3DS and DS ac adapters while still charging full price for the system itself. Basically forcing the gamer to either keep their old system or devalue the system when they sell it, or the third option, pay for another ac adapter to include with the sale.

Nintendo is the same publisher who's stated there's going to be no XL version of the 3DS and then officially announcing one a week later. Their announcement of no XL version made me assume that okay, it's atleast a year or two out then, so I bought a 3DS, only to upgrade to an XL, only for them to release the New 3DS XL a short time later so I still had the inferior version in less than a few years out.

Nintendo is the company that launched the New 3DS with Xenoblade Chronicles and a statement that there are many more first party exclusives currently in development for the system, only it's been a year since it launched and there's been no such unveiling of any New Nintendo 3DS exclusives.

Nintendo bashed on DLC all last gen, but they quickly became the worst when the moment they started doing DLC. The Fire Emblem Awakening DLC costs more than the game itself. The FIRST map pack for Fire Emblem Fates is $18. The ridiculous amount of DLC in Super Smash Bros for Wii U and 3DS and the fact that it's not even cross buy, it's only cheaper if you buy both versions of that DLC at the time of purchase. The Mario Golf and Fantasy Life day one DLC. Fantasy Life is actually an unfinished game without the DLC.

Amiibo figurines are overpriced toys that allow the player to use disc locked content. It's bad when Capcom does it, but yay Nintendo. Nintendo enthusiasts will give the excuse that the features work on multiple games while you're only paying for one Amiibo and while that's true with characters like Mario, but what about characters like Marth, Ike, Robin, and Lucina. The Fire Emblem characters only have SSB AI integration which I don't care about in the least and Code Named S.T.E.A.M where each character is a unique playable character and if you use all four of them, Fire Emblem music will play. $52 in DLC for four different characters that could have been in game as bonus content. There's been cross over characters that have been bonus content. Cloud in Final Fantasy Tactics, 8bit Simon Belmont in Castlevania Harmony of Dissonance, Federation missions with playable characters like Amuro in Zeonic Front(a game based on Zeon soldiers.) Hitoshura/Demi Fiend as a super boss in Digital Devil Saga, etc, etc, etc. Did we need Amiibos to gain access to cross over characters? No, it's just some nice bonus content that the developers gave us access to.

Nintendo commenting about how Fire Emblem Fates is impossible to be on the same cartridge, then later on announces a special edition with all three versions on the same cartridge. Remember when Fire Emblem the Sacred Stones had two separate storylines on a single cartridge and you only had to pay for the game once? Fire Emblem fates is the same engine with some of the same maps on all three games, and a lot of the same character sprites on all three games. Nintendo is taking what worked with Pokemon and pushing that onto other games, amd while Pokemon is one of their biggest sellers, Fire Emblem isn't, and this way they can put less work into a game that isn't as profitable as their others and get more sales.

This is just the most recent, but everything Nintendo does is in the interest of making as much as they can while giving as little as they can. Pure greed. They make some good games, but one of my least favorite Japanese companies.

[sk8ofmnd]

I hope it is canceled on the wiiu and made an nx launch title. I knew when they gave the dumbest zelda name (ZELDAU) in history, it was doomed right from the start. I knew once the rumors started running wild last year about the nx, many of Nintendo's first party games would be swimming for land on a sinking ship. Then what the f*ck do you know? A zelda game said to release last holiday season was DELAYED... Not just delayed a few months but indefinitely. Who didnt see that comming? Rhetorical question. And guess what? Considerably bigger nintendo fans than i took this news on the chin accepting nintendos excuses... Ohh it was to add game mechanics ohhh it was because of zeldas 25th anniversary... I call BULLSHIT! The same nintendo fans that are saying its ok it was delayed, or that nintendo owes us zeldau, are the same ones that will be standing in line day one to buy it for the nx... **Even if** it skips the wiiu all together. So you entitled nintendo fans need to just stfu.

[Concertoine]

Zelda U is a temporary name.

[Metallox]

"I knew when they gave the dumbest zelda name (ZELDAU) in history."

This makes me cringe...

@Concertoine It's not even a temporary name, that's how the community calls it. Nintendo officially refers to it as The Legend of Zelda for Wii U.

[Eterna1Ice]

I mean, that's the only good way out, right? If they'll only release Zelda on NX, people will lose all the respect for Nintendo. Many people straight up bought the Wii U mainly for the Zelda game, when its fake gameplay was shown on E3 presentation.

[donman1]

Like the previous generation... it will be on both the WiiU and the NX (with some added functionality unique to the new console). This satisfies the die hards that supported the failed WiiU (failed in terms that it will not even come close the the Wii success) and adds to the games available to the new console launch.

[Moonman]

No, and selling slow does not mean dead. In fact, if it's as awesome as it sounds/appears it might help Wii U get closer to 20 million over the next couple years. This game is going to sell! Wii U attach rate is extremely healthy in every market worldwide except maybe the UK.

[donwel]

This. It's like saying the xbox one is dead because it's only selling 200-ish units a week in Japan.
Though I will say that I know a few people who own Wii U and they have quite a number of games for them, also they tend to buy a lot of games on the eshop as well. Then again they could be the exception as opposed to the rule.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I mean...I agree the game is going to sell, but I'm very doubtful Wii U is going to reach 20 million. NX's reveal will likely see to that.

The game for sure is going to sell, I don't really see it moving massive units.

[Moonman]

Wii U is still $299.99. Drop the price when Zelda hits and it will explode sales to levels unseen so far. I suggest $189.99 with a game!

[Sly-Lupin]

...I think we should all be able to agree that, yeah, the WiiU is kind of a dead platform. There's no major third party support to speak of, and first party support has been pretty damned spartan... yes, the WiiU's library is fantastic, and yes, it's library of exclusives is arguably (much) better than it's competition... but it's time to admit that things probably aren't going to turn around for it, and that's a shame.

[Loadedklip]

Wii U is never gonna get close to 20 million.

[Relientk77]

Don't worry they'll port it onto NX as well

[Vhampir]

Maybe NX will be backwards compatible and up the resolution to 1080p on all Wii U titles.

Let me dream a little while longer...

[nowitzki2004]

When was the last time a Nintendo console was not backwards compatible?

[TheGrimReaper]

@nowitzki2004
Nintendo Gamecube was not backwards compatible.

[Sly-Lupin]

What WiiU titles aren't 1080p?

[TheGrimReaper]

@Sly-Lupin
https://www.reddit.com/r/wi...

quite a few...

[MJunior]

From a marketing/selling point? Yes.

But I think that they will do this to show respect for WiiU owners.

And they can just port it to NX.

[FallenAngel1984]

They already confirmed this game for the Wii U, they can't go back on their word. And this game couldn't be ported to NX as easily as Twilight Princess. The NX would be a significant step up in terms of hardware from Wii U compared to the GCN's and Wii's comparatively similar hardware.

[Moonman]

Thank you. I stand by my belief that NX won't see this port until later after it launches.

[eagle21]

If rumors are true, the only place to play it if it arrives in 2016 is Wii U. NX console version seems more mid to late 2017.

[smashman98]

If the rumors are true nx games will be cross platform and they could release this on nx handheld this year

[_-EDMIX-_]

I think NX sees this port day 1 when it launches.

Ports don't take long to create, zero reason why they couldn't launch it day 1 on that platform, especially if they are making it concurrently with the Wii U.

[Moonman]

@EDMIX This is a huge game to simply port....and then to a handheld without the power of the home console to help it?

[_-EDMIX-_]

@Moonman- You don't know the size of the game and irrelevant if you factor that can be changed for the NX version if need be.

Also we don't know if its a handheld or not or how powerful it is.

Typically speaking, handhelds are actually more powerful then their console counterparts that released either during the gen they released in or after.

Your saying "power of the home console" as if you actually know what the NX is or even if the handheld would be weak.

Technically speaking, some phones right now on the market are more powerful then Wii U, PS4 and XONE. Its actually not as uncommon as some of you think and I think many of you get this idea in your head that because its a handheld, it suddenly can't do what a console can do, when that is actually based on its power, not based on being a handheld.

PSP was more powerful then the PS2.
3DS was more powerful then the Wii.

Soooo why wouldn't Nintendo's next handheld be more powerful then the Wii U?

Its not actually that uncommon..

http://gamerant.com/nintend...

http://www.theguardian.com/...

[Kallisti]

You mean like how The Last Guardian & Final Fantasy Versus XIII were confirmed for the PS3? I still think that it will come out for the Wii U but if it doesn't, it won't be the first time a game has been announced for one console but then released on its successor instead.

[MSBAUSTX]

The difference is that Nintendo has much higher standards when it comes to telling the truth to their customers than Sony or Squar ever will or have.

[Moonman]

Nintendo has never not released a new Zelda for a console since the NES. This isn't Metroid or Star Fox.

[WeAreLegion]

@MSBAUSTX - So, Nintendo has never told us something and then NOT done that? You can't think of any video games or peripherals they've announced, but not released? Really?

These claims don't make the companies liars. They're just delays. It's out of their hands. Releasing The Last Guardian on PS3 or FFVXIII on PS3 right now wouldn't make any sense.

[Moonman]

They know core gamers buy their consoles with Zelda in mind. Zelda never skipped a Nintendo console like Metroid did. That is fact. Disagree all you want.

[WeAreLegion]

Their word? Yes, they would. They've done it several times. They can't help it. Sometimes, games just don't work out. Or they take so long to make that releasing it on a new console is the only thing that makes sense.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I don't think the will, but the 100% can go back on their word. It wouldn't be the first time a publisher has done that, but I don't see it happening.

I also see it going to NX too.

A game doesn't need to be on "similar hardware" to be ported, in fact ironically porting is due to the game not running on the hardware in the first place.

NX wouldn't even need to be a huge step up to run it if you consider the port wouldn't even be the same build.

[OldGuyStillGaming]

It's not a dead system and far from it

[XXXL]

They owe it to us Wii U owners. They bail on their word of releasing it for the Wii U I bail on Nintendo and I can imagine others will too.

[WeAreLegion]

They don't owe us anything. They can do whatever they want. We know the risks of buying a console. Games get delayed or canceled. They owe us nothing.

[XXXL]

Really? They've been promising this game for years only to push it back again and again. I'd say Wii U owners deserve a version of it for being loyal and supporting a "dead" system. Or maybe you're just one of those idiot Nintendo fanboys with his blinders on thinking they walk on water.

[WeAreLegion]

Haha. Read my other comments. I like Nintendo, but I'm no fanboy. These companies (Nintendo, MS, Sony) owe us nothing unless it is promised. You need to understand what a promise it. Announcing a game is not a promise.

[smashman98]

@XXXL Entitled much?

[_-EDMIX-_]

lol no.

No they don't. The Zelda U being announced as not some sort of contract that 100% guaranteed its release on Wii U.

Nintendo still owns the rights to their titles, not consumers.

That is just pure entitlement. They again don't really owe you anything. Its Nintendo's game, not yours.

[smashman98]

Lol very cute... But no I'm no moron I bought a Wii u to play Mario 3d world and pikmin 3 I did that and then played a whole lot more I will also play Zelda when it comes to Wii u. If the nx comes simultaneously I might get that one. It's a business Nintendo owes you nothing. Sony owes you nothing Microsoft owes you nothing. Nobody owes you anything. And thinking somebody's owes you something you haven't bought is kind of moronic

[XXXL]

So a company pulls the old bait and switch on you guys and you say that's ok I'll just get the next iteration and keep my fingers crossed they won't do it again. Ok. Gotcha. Im sure as hell glad I don't think like you guys.

[nitus10]

So Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony don't owe us anything? Fine I guess we the consumer don't need to buy their products either.

Show me a business that adopts that type of attitude and I will show you a business that is going out of business.

[WeAreLegion]

@nitus - You completely missed the point of smashman's post. Nintendo wants to make games and release them for us, but sometimes it makes more sense to cancel a game or push it to a new platform. Whwt don't you understand about that? They don't owe you a game.

[AJBACK2FRAG]

What if Nintendo release's a new hand held in 2016 that can play Zelda U but in 3d or even VR or God only knows what!(any where on the planet)... They'd definitely sell two hundred million of them lol! What company would be ready to compete with that? I think the two letter's in NX signify two different video game devices one N, one X, together NX.

[smashman98]

Lol tell yourself that if it makes you feel better

[Tsunade]

Yes is a mistake. They should make it a launch title for NX. I like Zelda games, but I won't buy a Wii U just for that game. And even now, the NX could be yet another mistake.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

but you're buying the NX for one game?
So what the difference?

[kaizokuspy]

One is suppusodely with the times in terms of hardware power and the other is not. That alone will mean more games for NX and less for wii u. So would you rather gamble on NX for one game in hopes that later on more will be added, or buy an inferior one for one game that has shown weak support?

[MSBAUSTX]

Then you are the one who is irrelevant and not Nintendo. If you won't buy a Wii U for the price it is with the incredible bundles they have and awesome first party log, why would you buy a new system that is unproven for more money with zero games in its log? If you won't buy a Wii U for one game like LOZ then why the hell should we believe you would buy an NX for one game like LOZ. Go talk to people who buy your crap dude.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Because he is choosing to support their new console that could receive many of Wii U's top titles anyway.

Relax on the personal attacks too, you can still prove your point without such things. You bring up good points, but this is purely based on individual choice, subjective opinion etc.

I mean...what if they only wanted a Wii U for Zelda U? If NX gets it too and its more powerful, and the game runs better, why get a Wii U and play the lessor version?

Millions got a PS4, millions also got The Last Of Us remaster. Maybe it was the only PS3 game they wanted, but it being on PS4 made them go that route considering its currently getting more support.

"buy a new system that is unproven for more money with zero games in its log?"

I also don't believe NX is releasing with 1 game.

" they have and awesome first party log"

I mean...subjective. They don't have a Mario RPG, Animal Crossing or Zelda title.

Thus for some, it may not be worth it. Consider at my age, those are the only titles I care for from them currently.

I'm no longer into Smash, Mario Kart, Mario Party etc.

Love the Animal Crossing series, Zelda and Mario RPG series ie Paper Mario, Super Star Saga etc.

So what you need to really consider, is some Nintendo fans are not just by default in LOVE with ALL Nintendo titles. That is like saying because I like some EA games, I love all, I like some Bethesda games, thus I should love their MMO etc.

Many like a select few titles from publishers, many might just so happen to not be picking it up because of a lack of a few. If those are on NX, sure I'll get Zelda for NX vs Wii U, Wii U already doesn't have the series I normally play from Nintendo anyway.

[MSBAUSTX]

@EDMIX
Wasn't necessarily meaning to personally attack anyone. The guy said the Wii U isn't worth it for one game. Well it obviously has many many more gems for it than he realizes because if it isn't worth it now then NX with only a couple wouldn't be worth it by those same standards. That was my point. Wii U has great games spanning a lot of genres

Also you said it doesn't have the game you usually play. I couldn't think of any it hasn't released at least one of. Which were you talking bout about?

[AJBACK2FRAG]

I think all the extra space we've seen in video's for Zelda U could mean an online combative or co op aspect to Zelda U. Maybe even lol a mmorpg! I don't know Nintendo might figure it would be a nice thing for early adopters that paid full price for basically an unpopular slow selling home video game console. People that went out and supported Wii U games and a of independent video game studios! Maybe Nintendo think's those guy's deserve a sweet video game so the Wii U can go out on a high note! Maybe?

Me? I thought the Wii U was gonna' be hUge! I couldn't forsee the public's demand for a super powerful home video game console that... really wasn't. Oh well live and learn!

[_-EDMIX-_]

@MSB- "Wasn't necessarily meaning to personally attack anyone. The guy said the Wii U isn't worth it for one game"

He likely means for him personally and not all in general, but if you didn't mean to, no problem.

"Also you said it doesn't have the game you usually play. I couldn't think of any it hasn't released at least one of. Which were you talking bout about?"

I stated them in my comment.

"Love the Animal Crossing series, Zelda and Mario RPG series ie Paper Mario, Super Star Saga etc"

The Animal Crossing game they released....well isn't an Animal Crossing game, its a party game of the same name.

I'm still waiting of course for a Wii U Zelda outside of remasters as I'm not buying a Wii U for titles I already own, even though they do look great, I just can't buy a platform merely for a remaster and of course if it releases on NX, I'd rather just get it on NX vs Wii U when its already on its way out and its clear they are not making the titles I'm looking for when NX could get a real Animal Crossing game and Mario RPG game.

Speaking of Mario RPG....a Mario RPG lol. No Mario RPG on Wii U like the Paper Mario series on N64 and Gamecube and Wii.

" I couldn't think of any it hasn't released at least one of"

I mean...you "couldn't think of any" that is all that is being stated. Not that it hasn't merely that you couldn't think of any. Those are their ace titles for me as of now, but that is for me personally.

I hope you can see not all Nintendo fans are the same. Wii U does has some great games, they merely don't have titles that I like from Nintendo.

No Animal Crossing...ie a real one not a party game.
No Mario RPG (or Paper series)

Thus, Zelda coming to NX very much will mean me getting it for NX by default..I mean that is unless Nintendo announces a traditional Animal Crossing game for Wii U, but I think thats just unlikely right now.

and fyi I bought a 3DS for Animal Crossing new leaf day 1 lol.

I'll buy any platform they make with Animal Crossing day 1. I've yet to miss an entry, but I won't buy their milking games like that party game Animal Crossing..that isn't a real entry to me lolz

[MSBAUSTX]

@EDMIX

Yeah an Animal crossing would be cool. A paper Mario would have been cool too. Those unfortunately seem to be Series that they are moving to the mobile market.

[blawren4]

No system is ever worth buying for one game. The wii u, however, has enough games already released to more than justify your purchase.

[DarXyde]

Wii U gets plenty of play time in my dojo. I don't speak for everyone, but I'll be playing this, day one.

Dead console? Nah.

[AJBACK2FRAG]

I couldn't understand saying no to a new great looking Zelda video game but hey that's me!

[WormholeToParadise]

Yes. Make it a launch title for the NX that way it doesnt start off slow and fail like the Wii U did.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

yeah the NX must be weak to. Must be a Wii U but stronger. Just like the Wii was to the GC. Yup what everyone wanted.

[Wallstreet37]

Itll go a long way to validating our purchase for some of us who bought the system although we didnt see many offerings we cared for on it. I bought it later on during a sale and rarely play it but im patiently waiting for Zelda. Zelda is one of those Nintendo ips i havent grown out of and enjoy tremendously.

[_LarZen_]

Yes.

It should be a launch title on the new console.

[Summons75]

Click bait much? WiiU isn't dead at all and this years game line up is more to prove that.

[RPGrinder]

Why cant they release on both systems? Click bate.

[RIPWiiU]

Read the name.

[user6666047]

It'll be on both systems. Even my hamster could tell you that.

[RIPWiiU]

In Peru they would eat your hamster.

[user6666047]

O...O

[higgins78]

Better be a 'dead system' than vanilla. First, let us leave those who don't own said system behind - trolling from the sidelines is just that, trolling. Secondly, the Wii U - which I've owned since launch - has offered me a wide and varied library of games, both retail, Indie AND Virtual Console...so much so I've barely scratched the surface of many. Job, Girlfriend, Dog, Family, Friends AND other non-videogame related interests/activities will just not end - gratefully.

Oh, I almost forgot...OF COURSE Zelda U should be released on the Wii U.

[Apollosupreme]

Yes and no. Yes because the next gen console would move units faster with this. No because those gamers who bought into the Wii U deserve this.

[RustyShackleford]

They pretty much owe it to Wii U owners at this point. They can port it to NX when it releases if they want, but honestly the U owners have been waiting much longer than originally expected for Zelda. It'd be a huge slap in the face to their loyal customers if they switched it to NX only.

[from the beach]

The Last of Us.

Nintendo can release Zelda on Wii U and then release a remaster next year or whenever on NX, same as what happened with GTAV, TLOU, Tomb Raider etc. etc.

[specialguest]

I like that idea. I was just thinking about that, but you already mentioned it.

[parentoftheyear]

This is the best comment itt

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

there a difference.
Concept of the system
Power of the System.

The NX must be not that much stronger than the Wii U then/

[Germany7]

Terrible article.

[Moonman]

With a horrible disrespect to Mr. Iwata. I rarely get offended but that picture was absolutely disrespectful!

[Germany7]

It's disgusting what gaming journalism do to get some clicks, and these are the same SJW who want to censor games.
It is disrespectful indeed, but according to them, what really is disrespectful are women playing volleyball on the beach...

[melonfarm3r]

What a terrible article.
First of all, there is no way NX will release in June it will be November guaranteed. Second of all, Zelda will clearly be multiplatform like Twilight Princess.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

so the NX will be a bit stronger and use the gamepad.

[blawren4]

I hope it doesn't come to NX until a full year after launch.

[parentoftheyear]

Why?

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

I hope it doesnt come to the NX at a

[StormLegend]

It needs to be for both. I can't gamble on buying a WiiU for one game. The other games it has doesn't interest me. The NX will most likely release with some good first party games.

[thepatientgamer]

No. I paid good money for my Wii U for Xenoblade Chronicles X and this game. They better damn well release this game for the Wii U.

[kenwonobi]

Yes. I see wy Wii U owners would want it. The smart people thinking about Nintendo's future think it should be a launch NX game. Starting that system off on a good foot. They can't afford to launch with light software this time.

[KentBlake]

The only right decision is to release it for both (Wii U and NX).

[jay2]

Big mistake nx lsunch title

[specialguest]

They just can't win can they? If Nintendo abandons it on the Wii U, we'll have articles blasting Nintendo for back-stabbling or abandoning their core fans who stuck through the years with Nintendo. If Nintendo keeps their promise and plans to release it on the Wii U as intended, we get an article like this. lol

[hiawa23]

No, the game was made for the Wiiu, they can always re release an NX version..

[kevnb]

I think it will come out this year, Zelda is one of those series that will sell pretty well even on a "dead" console.

[Moonman]

It's coming this year (30th Anniversary of The Legend Of Zelda).....

[zep]

If nintendo do not release zelda wii u on wii u i would not buy a nintendo system ever again i have waited for so long for this and xenoblade chronicles x wich is one of the best game last year too bad it was release so late i could have gotten some awards on vga never had so much fun in jrpgs lately thank god for jrpgs like xenoblade chronicles x and ni no kuni that stay on its jrpg roots

[showtimefolks]

release it on wii-u and it will sell a lot of consoles/software. than release it at launch for NX(or whatever it's called)

[bangoskank]

This is what they did with Twilight Princess. I'm surprised Skyward Sword wasn't released for the Wii.

[showtimefolks]

i actually want most of zelda games via hd remasters like windwaker

[S2Killinit]

a "dead system" WTfudge.

[Segata]

Click bait. It's not dead if it's getting support. Nintendo and indies releasing several games for Wii U this year. 3Rd parties may not be strong but still getting some titles like book of unwritten tales 2 retail. This title screams of Polygon levels of retarded when they said Mario Kart 8 would only sell 1 million lifetime. Guess what 1st party games on Wii U have insane attach rates. MK8 has a 60 percent attach rate. Splatoon like 25-30%,Smash 40% as examples.

[DivineAssault]

They should for everyone that bought it in good faith.. Every system got a zelda game except VB lol

[RosweeSon]

This is a Wii U exclusive, possibly with a port or some form of backwards compatabilty on NX which won't launch until 2017 looking on their previous home console launch years there's a clear pattern...

86, 92, 97, 01, 06, 12.... 17?! I would say that's 6, 5, 4, 5, 6 and back to a 5 year gap me thinks gets it out for next year gives them a good 3 to more likely at least 4 years before they would need to think of NX2 to come out alongside any eventual ps5/xbox720's so they can be on par again. I hope NX is a great system but I'm in no rush as have no major problems with Wii U, it's great apart from lack of voice chat online and a few other things, games wise they've got that covered.

[Melankolis]

Typical Nintendo..
It's coming to NX eventually, whether it's a port or remaster after the launch of the Wii U version...

[noksucow73]

I enjoy the Wiiu and I hope it does get released on it. I don't care if it comes to both, but I personally don't wanna invest in another console just yet. I have xbox1, ps4, wiiu, and gaming pc, and I'm happy with these platforms , and also finding it hard to keep up with all the games on each. Lol. Lately I've been playing the Wiiu The most, With xenoblade taking up most of my time. Great game.

[GrmpyolGamer]

Regardless of the Wii U Sales figures Zelda will sell like crazy and may even push a few consoles as well

[Realplaya]

Why the hell would Nintendo cut into potential Zelda and Wii U sales. Nintendo is going to give Zelda on the Wii U time to sale which is whu it won't be a NX release. Also if there is a Zelda on every console they can basically release a NX Zelda and 2 years down the road port Zelda U.I would say if there is a game that will release on the NX it would be Metroid maybe an F Zero game. Def a #D and 2D Mario.

[AusGamer]

Don't forget that the GameCube was also a dead system when Twilight Princess was released, but Nintendo went a head and released it anyway because they wished to honor the commitment they made to the Nintendo fans who bought the system.

I think this is a similar situation. Zelda Wii U will get released on the Wii U because they promised it for the system. But, just like last time, I bet they'll release a shinier version on the NX.

[Jag-T1000]

Yes, but the problem right now is that the regular wii sold over 30million. Now nintendo is hurting in sales and if they want the NX to sell, they will release it only for the NX.

[DDMNeo]

Like many are saying it'll be both. They'll be holding it for the NX release. It'll probably be scaled down for Wii U too.

[skratchy]

Not at all. Zelda is a system seller. Plenty of people BOUGHT, and will buy, a WiiU, just for this game. Guaranteed

[masterfox]

At this point I don't see any game a system seller for the WiiU cause the system limitations.

[Geobros]

A really bad article. I read that which is no true: "Nintendo usually does one of two things when they release a new Console: launch the platform with a brand new Mario game or a brand new Zelda game."

I have bought all Nintendo consoles from Nes till Wii U and I never had a Zelda title in the launch. As for the Twillight Princess on Wii, I had played already on GC, so it cannot be considered as launch title.

[JunMei]

Well Wii U still sells a lot of software, and it's still profitable, so it's not all doom and gloom. That said, the N4G would doo much better were this a launch title. Even if the console N4G doesn't cone out until 2017.

[sk8ofmnd]

I hope it is canceled on the wiiu and made an nx launch title. I knew when they gave the dumbest zelda name (ZELDAU) in history, it was doomed right from the start. I knew once the rumors started running wild last year about the nx, many of Nintendo's first party games would be swimming for land on a sinking ship. Then what the f*ck do you know? A zelda game said to release last holiday season was DELAYED... Not just delayed a few months but indefinitely. Who didnt see that comming? Rhetorical question. And guess what? Considerably bigger nintendo fans than i took this news on the chin accepting nintendos excuses... Ohh it was to add game mechanics ohhh it was because of zeldas 25th anniversary... I call BULLSHIT! The same nintendo fans that are saying its ok it was delayed, or that nintendo owes zeldau, are the same ones that will be standing in line day one to buy it for the nx... **Even if** it skips the wiiu all together

[2cents]

If it is WiiU only I will get it as the swan song game to say farewell.
If it comes out on both it will be the Launch game that I pick up the NX for.

Either way it should be a win!

[Jag-T1000]

Why buy it for the Wii-u if it's coming for the NX. If they want the NX to sell millions on day one, it is better they not release it for the Wii-u.

[MoveTheGlow]

We have no actual idea what the NX is yet, so I wouldn't call the WiiU "dead." For all we know, it could be a new system that leverages the WiiU's current library.

[maybelovehate]

Wish they would release it for PC. I am getting a Wii U just for this game, but I would much rather not.

[iliimaster]

i hope they save it for the new consoles sake because the wiiU can output as it stands now an amazing zelda game, with a world as big as read dead redemption it would be the best looking zelda game ever
but save it for the new console because it still has to sell and it would help nx more than it would help the wii u at this point in time.

[Duke19]

Seeing as the NX isn't out yet, and people want to play the game... no, they are not making a mistake at all.

Giving gamers what they want to play. If its good - ill be picking it up

[contra157]

I think there will be a version for both consoles . Who knows they both may have some connection together

[Zarock]

I think Nintendo should stop developing the game on the WiiU and
start Remastering It for the NX to make It a launch title Instead.

[SegaGamer]

It's not a dead system, it's just not doing as well as the competition.

[Jag-T1000]

It's dead dude, stop kidding yourself. It's on its last leg. Time to put her down.

[sk8ofmnd]

Its def done for, 13 million in +3 years is laughable at best. Thats 4 million a year in the whole world. Im not saying that it wont sell truck loads on the wiiu, im saying shift resources to making zelda 2016 the most vast, content rich, adventure we have ever seen.

[Mike04]

I think it would be fine, coz if you base it on Nintendo's way of making their system backwards compatibility is where they shine the most. WiiU is still a good system and i think it would be mean for current owners be neglected to what is promised Zelda game flr wiiU.

[D-riders]

wii U is dead???? damn i guess I should stop playing it

[bangoskank]

Short answer: yes.

[Donnywho]

When you want to play the new Zelda game but you hate Nintendo. LMAO, You guys crack me up. Don't ever change.

[Liveevirdtset]

I love the propaganda this generation, accentuates the divide between those who dabbled in gaming when they were children and then back in once it became mainstream. I same could be said for The Last of Us on the then dying PS3 (remember when the PS3 won worst tech of the year) clearly this reviewer falls in the latter category another gaming site trying to become relevant through none other than riding the PS4 hype train. Anyone remember when software was why you bought a gaming system, (some of the highest rated exclusives are on the Wii U, they boast about and rightly so). With a little bit of digging anyone can find there is no substantial evidence to support this or many of the other supposed cherry picked facts in these types of opinion pieces.

[MilkMan]

What dead system? The only system they have right now is the WiiU so have at it. NX is make believe at this point.