PS2 Emulation On PS4 Is A “Big Deal”, Games Will Be Absolutely Worth Playing – Dev

Last week, Sony quietly released PS2 emulation on the PlayStation 4 via four classic games that came along with the Star Wars Battlefront PS4 bundle.

[BigBosss]

Oh man, super excited! Can I also add, super excited to play Crash Nitro Kart, loved CTR so much, but never had the change to play the second one. So many games! Resident Evil, Onimusha and so forth! Ahhhh, soo excited guys! :D

[Ezz_Snake]

Onimusha ;( well said

[BigBosss]

It's been a long time since we've had Onimusha and Dino Crisis man :(

PS. I wish at PSExperience they announce Crash for the PS4, I would run to the streets naked lool

[Ezz_Snake]

Also Anyone remember The Gateway, Obscure and Mark Eco

[kenshiro100]

Yeeeesss. Onimusha series will forever be my favorite one from Capcom.

They need a new one.

[breakpad]

it will be a big deal only id it is Disc Based (with optional PSN) and Free

[AnotherProGamer]

@BigBosss
@kenshiro100

Ni-Oh is the newest thing we will get to a Omimusha game

[TripleCs]

They teased Crash so it might be returning. I doubt Sony would tease it like that if they had no plans to bring it back.

http://static.gamespot.com/...

[Majin-vegeta]

Wouldn't doubt it.Acti has been playing nice with Sony this gen.Who know they probably budged and sold them the IP back.

[fei-hung]

I think they will bring back the old crash's with resolution and trophy support along with a deal in place with Activision maybe create a new game funded partially by Sony as an exclusive, but also a deal to make a Crash animated feature film similar to Ratchet and Sly.

[ninsigma]

It would be great to know that Sony have got the rights to crash for crash but I doubt it. There was that drawing competition naughty dog did and acti wouldn't allow them to use crash. As far as I remember, that was after the crash tease. So if we are getting a new game, it could be in the form that acti still owns the rights but is allowing a Sony Dev to develop it for ps. Who knows. I'd love to see him come back!

[mzupeman]

It's definitely coming. There was even a slight possibility of it being shown this past E3, but ultimately, nobody was comfortable showing it off yet.

You'll have to be patient, but a lot of Crash fans will be happy at some point this gen.

[TWB]

They need to make a Crash trilogy or + CTR+Bash collection with trophies and improved graphics/resolution the very least.

Personally a graphical remake would be awesome too (same for the Spyro series too ofcourse).

[subtenko]

Lol it was a trojan hore all along! Sony plays nice with activision even tho they despise the,. then when they get the rights to crash back kaz escapes the room kicking down the door leaving with crash!

The run down the stair way, gun fire everywhere as activision henchmen trys taking them out.

Yoshida calls in telling them, ditch the original getaway car, HES GOT A HELICOPTER! So they run back up the stairs as crash uses Aku Aku for invicibility.

They both escape in the heli but activision pulls out their Call Of Duty Black Ops 4 helicopter (cause its being worked on in the side)

ITS A BIG OL HELICOPTER FLOWN BY ZOMBIES, WITH ZOMBIES shootin bones at the helis propellers!

THEY GET HIT! Luckily they use their parachutes, but then crash bandicoot pulls out his bazooka and blows the nazi zombie helicopter away! Then he gets yelled at for not using it sooner.

The float down to an open pool where there seems to be a party going on. They stay there to blend in.

THE DAY IS SAVED! :D Im gonna make this story in Dreams PS4. THATS RIGHT, you thought that scenario was impossible, nope I can now make watever kind of game and story i want no matter how crazy it is!

[UserNameIsNotTaken]

OMG Onimusha will be so worth it! Tenchu too!

[Major_Glitch]

TENCHU!!!

[Bahamut]

Dark Cloud 1 and 2
Rogue Galaxy
Suikoden 3, 4, and 5
Final Fantasy XII
And yes, please, Onimusha. I miss that series.

[Dark_matter]

I bought Rogue Galaxy a couple years back at Gamestation and my god was it a good game. Wish I wouldn't have sold it now for another game. I need to get it again.

[Goldenarmz]

I never layed FF XII, maybei ll give that a play if they bring it.

[Ame_No_Shiryuu]

Yes sir

[styferion]

any info on whether it'll come with achievements? It'd offer sweet incentives for replaying the console's best games

[jaixvx]

yes, trophies will be included.

[Sly-Lupin]

You can't bake trophy support into an emulator. That has to be coded into the game itself. What Sony did was not so much allow for general PS2 emulation as simply use an emulator as a platform to run older titles instead of porting them.

The Star Wars games are no more an indication of backwards compatibility than anything else.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Please don't mention Onimusha :( Capcom would rather release another craptastic Resident Evil

[Goldenarmz]

I dont understand why they havent returned to this series. I think it would be better than that episodic RE they have going.

[Dynasty2021]

*sigh*

Thanks for letting Sony get away with this crap for free.

Way to let them and developers around the world see that they can keep getting away with bullcrap HD remakes, and make them think gamers want old-school stuff that brings nothing new.

Thanks for keeping the industry stagnant.

[Liqu1d]

You're a PC gamer, right? So do you complain about all the emulation on PC as well?

[SegaGamer]

What are you talking about ? how are things stagnating if loads of new games are coming out ?

[showtimefolks]

i am excited because i will be able to play ps2 games in 1080p(not native i know but still better than sd) and better frame rate

[3-4-5]

Don't own a PS4, and never owned a PS2, but I've seen the list of amazing games for PS2, and adding that would make buying a PS4 that much more appealing.

PS2 has arguably the greatest lineup of games ever in the somewhat modern era. ( NES/SNES/Sega Genesis are right there too).

So yea I don't own a PS4, but I hope those that do get to experience all these games.

[magiciandude]

All of a sudden backward compatibility is a big deal, and it's amazing because it's Sony, and because it has trophies or some other shit nobody really cares about, but this wasn't the case a few months ago when Microsoft announced BC for Xbox 360 games. Xbox fans were attacked when praising MS for giving them what they wanted.

These Sony fanboys all have given the excuse that "I didn't buy a new console to play old games" "I never played more than 1 PS2 game on my launch PS3" "nobody cared for BC on PS3 which is why Sony removed it" when dumping bucket loads of Morton salt in every single Xbox BC article. Now all of a sudden these same people are jumping up and down throwing confetti everywhere.

It's amazing. Sony hypocrisy is unmatched by anything else. That being said, the PS4 is for the PewDiePie/MTV/Fratboy crowd, so anything better than this shouldn't be expected at all. I've never seen this much brand worship with another company, even Apple. You Sony fanboys should be ashamed of yourselves.

[GrubsterBeater]

It's amazing because it's PS2..

360 is not a big deal, but that PS2 library though...

So stop being salty because the majority of people love the idea of PS2 BC more than 360 BC.

By the way, BC is not a game-changer for the PS4 or XBox One. It is a cool feature that many people may not even use that much, but according to the majority, PS2 BC definitely trumps 360 BC. That's my opinion, and many others.

[magiciandude]

"It's amazing because it's PS2.. "

Not what I've heard from the Sony camp this E3 when MS announced BC for Xbox 360. Instead I've heard that "I've never used more than 1 PS2 game on my PS3" "the majority of people don't care about PS2 BC, there is a survey out there proving that" "I didn't buy a new console to play old games" "if I want to play my old games I can just use my old consoles."

Thanks for proving my point. :D

"360 is not a big deal, but that PS2 library though..."

Says your opinion only.

[SegaGamer]

Why are you asuming we are all Sony fanboys ?

I praised Microsoft for making BC available for the Xbox One and i'm now doing the same for Sony.

You need to grow up.

[lastking95]

Lol so true, ps3/ps2 BC was trashed and used to hate on 360 BC suddenly it's a big deal, smh no shame lol.

[lolosgolos]

I'm also surprised bc is such a big deal. Before Sony announcement it was shit and no one uses it Lol.

[Sly-Lupin]

All of a sudden?

It was always a big deal. It's just the asshat Sony fanboys that insisted it wasn't simply because the PS4 wasn't going to have any.

[lobocob]

the lack of self awareness in this comment combined with the absurdity of what he thinks is the ps4 crowd is just makes me think he might be a pychopath

[DigitalRaptor]

How does a personal attack/immature and troll comment get a well said on here? That's just ridiculous.

Don't be so full of it. You're here focusing on a small personal number of fanboys you've heard that behaviour from, and then trying and go out of your way to call Sony fanboys worse than Xbox fanboys without even going out of the way to see how the fanboys of this generation truly behave on a broad spectrum.

You know what? You can easily express that Sony hypocrisy is unmatched, whilst I can easily bring up the hypocritical 180s done by the Xbox fanboys this gen too. Downplaying the importance of PS4 superior resolution and performance on multiplats, whilst hyping up things like DX12 and Cloud as though they're going to help in that same regard. Throwing their faeces at Japanese games and indies, only to add them towards their boasted lineup when they feel it counts. Focusing on sales last gen, boasting NPDs last gen and now acting as though "it doesn't matter, it's all about the games". Really.... i could go on, but your one-sided outburst speaks for itself on how little you care to truly represent.

I should bring up how Xbox fanboys are the worst and most disingenuous liars this industry has ever seen from day one of the Xbone reveal where they felt the most aggressive and embarrassing damage control I've ever witnessed was required. It wouldn't make your point any more valid than mine.

I haven't seen Sony fanboys on any facet of the interwebs that are bigger bitter liars and spreaders of misinformation as people like Crapgamer, TheMooch, TimDog, Iron Wolf, and Zaire nxtgen720 on YouTube. Go and look those people up - they have THOUSANDS of followers that they mislead on a daily basis all in the name of being a corporate slave to Microsoft and bashing Sony. There is nobody out there even close to that level of disgrace on the Sony side.

I've seen nobody on the Sony side this gen that stalks consumers at BestBuy to see if they're buying Xbox Ones, and verbally abuses kids at retail for buying PS4s instead of Xbones. The 30-year-old man children who get their young relatives to draw pictures of the Xbox executives they actually think are their friends, instead of things that kids should be drawing. Stealing other people's gameplay footage to use to support their own (fake) negative reviews of PS4 exclusives to make it appear that they've played them. Then there's the folks DISGUSTINGLY calling PS4 the ISIS Station 4 after the Paris attacks rumoured information.

Yeah but let's call Sony fanboys a disgrace.

And the PewDiePie/MTV/Fratboy assumption.... yeahhhh. Now I've heard it all. You're just trying to pile on random drivel here which only further supports why you're a fanboy of the other console. Any fanboy that wants to label an entire group of fanboys worse than another whilst ignoring the whole picture has an agenda, and that dude, is you.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
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Even the REAL Xbox gamers are calling out the Xbox fanboys of this gen: https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[rainslacker]

"These Sony fanboys all have given the excuse that "I didn't buy a new console to play old games"

Isn't this the same thing both Sony AND MS fans said at the beginning of this gen when the whole BC argument was a thing.

Why do you care anyways? Is it good or not? Do you care more about calling out fan boys or getting good features? If you're happy with BC, or emulated games, then be happy for it, and let the people who care about it discuss it. If you're not happy about it, then talk about how both companies are screwing it up.

Trying to call out fan boys again and again will only lead to frustration...unless you're just one of those types who wants to incite a fan boy riot because you have nothing worth doing otherwise.

Just for the record, I was one that said it's a great feature to have, even before this gen started and was disappointed it wasn't available. But since before this gen started I also have always said, without fail, it's not really that big of a selling point, and that it would not prevent me from moving on to the next gen. At no point was I being hypocritical, because at no point has my viewpoint on BC or emulation actually changed.

[galgor]

I am a big crash team racing fan but Nitro Kart was awful. Major letdown.

[kaizokuspy]

Just think of all the new ps plus titles we can pull from ps2 emulation or ps1 classics.

[YinYangGaming]

Does this work with games I already own? Still got my PS2 but would love to put it away to play the games on PS4 due to the performance benefits

[madmonkey01]

we dont know yet,

[YinYangGaming]

I see thanks for the reply, hoping we hear more at PSX then

[Tainted Gene]

based on the comments in the linked article, it seems that unlike X1's free emulation... the PS4 will "charge you" for using that service.

[Double_O_Revan]

This is going to be the make or break detail we're all waiting for. If we can play our old games, the world would explode. The PS2 had a Massive library, and games can be found for next to nothing. And to be able to play them in a whole new experience with upgraded resolution and with trophy support.

[Thomaticus]

I'm looking forward to the using the share options. I will pay for the service if I can use my discs and get trophies. But the deal breaker is the use of my own discs.

[nitus10]

Having a PS2 emulator on the PS4 would be a nice feature for me since I still have over 60 PS2 games, although I am quite sure many people don't care. Still to each their own.

I would be fairly confident in saying that the emulator will only read PS2 disk images which would mean digital downloads you pay for or hopefully PS2 disk read at no cost to you and install like all PS4 games.

Personally I don't have any issues with Sony charging for PS2 game image digital downloads or even providing some free or at a good discount if you have a PS+ subscription. After all Sony is a business and this may provide extra revenue especially if trophy support is available. Of course most (myself included) would not consider paying for games they already own.

To those people who hate the idea, all I can say is you won't be charged for a service you won't use so effectively there would be no cost to you.

[JackEffinBlack]

The world isn't going to explode. HipHopGamer already confirmed from an inside SONY source that it's coming strictly to PS Now. Which, I'm a habitual 3-month subscriber so...I'm goody! 🙃

[Godmars290]

My money is on digital, that they'll have to be bought again, so that IP holders see income from it.

Then again because of expectation, opportunity to make MS look bad however slight, they very well do both. Let people who still own physical copies play them without restriction while also offering popular titles for sale digitally.

[Zeref]

How does this make MS look bad? You actually can buy digital 360 games and play them on X1. They have even been giving them away through GwG next to X1 games.

[ScaReCrow90]

Okay there you have it. Fanboyism at its finest.
I was waiting for the first comment to mention Microsoft in a negative way.

Fanboys are freaking hypocrites.

[Rookie_Monster]

"Then again because of expectation, opportunity to make MS look bad however slight, they very well do both."

Smh. How is making a system 2 generaton ago that already been emulated on PC going to make MS look bad? MS already have support for both disc based and digital titles for the games you already bought without having to spend a cent. Even if Sony allows disc based option, you seriously think they would not charged for the digital versions?

[Godmars290]

How do I explain this to people who don't want an explanation? Who are only going to twist whatever is offered to their own petty narrative?

Yeah,I got nothing. So I'll just be frank.

The games in the PS2 library represent one of the best known and/or popular of its time, before we got to the mess which is the modern game industry, so it would be a great thing is Sony pulled some common sense out of their @$$, put it to some actual good use, and allow the owners of the physical copies of the games enjoy them without fishing for old PS2s while also giving new gamers access to them as well in the form of digital sales. Otherwise all will be left to fickle money grubbing wants of the likes of Capcom and Square.

As for XBO BC for 360 games - so what. We're coming off of what was the 360's cycle, so BC should have been something given day one rather than two years post launch. Its Spencer cleaning up after the last guy with what was left to him.

[Thomaticus]

if it wasn't for MS we wouldn't have backwards compatability. Sony was done with it. MS having their 360 games compatible is a big win for them. I hope Sony can b get ps3 games running on ps4 somehow someway.

[nitus10]

I would say the digital download part is a given, however it would also be easy for the PS4 to read a PS2 game disk and install the image onto the PS4's game disk for playing via the emulator.

@DoctorFraud

Note sure about PS1 CD's and some PS2 games that came on CD but if the PS4 can read DVD's it should also be able to read CD's.

Actually the PS4 has an emulator that can play and enhance PS2 games (not sure about PS1 games though).

The original PS3's had PS2 hardware (NTSC regions) or a combination PS2 hardware and software (PAL regions) to provide PS2 backwards compatibility. All PS3's can play PS1 game disks.

[BoboBuey]

Do you really think if Sony could emulate PS3 that PS2 would even be a thing? Absolutely not, Sony is grabbing for anything here after MS came out with BC first. Sony's problem is they can't emulate PS3 so they're doing it with PS2.

[Godmars290]

@BoboBuey:
Pretty sure they've talked about PS1 thru PS4 titles eventually being available on PSnow, or whatever their game streaming service is called. That the service itself is going to be usable on devices other than a console like TVs and media boxes. Given that the PS5 could be little more than a BC rig. If it remains a physical console.

[lastking95]

Wait.....Sony doing the exact same thing MS already done makes MS look bad? Lol you just made yourself and ps fanboys look bad.

[Godmars290]

More like having to think about something that you shouldn't have to think about. That what MS is trying to phase onto one of their consoles over time for the second time they've tried, is something that Sony offered day one on two of their systems before removing it from later models of their third console. That all in all the issue of BC has been made overly and needlessly complex.

[rainslacker]

Full retail playability may not be available. Quite a few PS2 games were actually released on CD, and it's unknown if the PS4 diode can actually read them. I know Sony didn't include the software to decode CD music, but it was never determined if it could physically read the CD's themselves.

I'd imagine it could, but it's still something to consider.

I would love BC for all retail releases. I think relying on the approval of the publisher is going to be more hassle over the long run, and I'd prefer to not have to fill up my hard drive with my more frequent PS2 games. But anything is better than nothing I suppose.

Really hope it's not repurchase though...I own almost every PS2 game I would ever want to play, and a lot I probably never will. I see no reason to purchase a digital version, nor would I since I have a full BC PS3.

[Sly-Lupin]

I dumped my PS2 ages ago for PC emulation. Cel-shaded games in particular look phenomenal at 1080p.

Only real problem is the Ace Combat games don't work well....

[Fro_xoxo]

Oh now it's a 'big deal'...hmmm

[Sonyslave3]

I know right didn't sony Just said Bc not important at all lol.

I could of sworn I say article of Sony Ceo saying Bc is not important on this website.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

Except this wasn't Sony who said this but a developer.

The big deal to me is still PSX and the 2016 lineup. PS2 BC isn't big to me, but that doesn't mean I won't try some PS2 games I missed or loved in the past

[Majin-vegeta]

I also remember someone from the other camp saying.

"IF YOUR BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE YOUR TRULY BACKWARDS".

Ring a bell?

[StormLegend]

That was PS3 BC this is PS2 BC Totally different from what MS has going on.

PS2 games with trophies!!!

Now let's see if MS does Xbox games with Achievments

[showtimefolks]

Sonyslave3

oh i didn't see sony making any statement did you?

[medman]

To be able to play ps2 and possibly ps1 games on the ps4 is a bigger deal to me than being able to play xbox 360 games on the xbox one simply because of the disparity in generations and the length of time between generations.

It would be quite amazing to replay ps1 ps2 era games on ps4, but the 360 generation is so much fresher in my mind I am not as keen to replay those games as they are quite recent in my memory. That's my take anyway, but either way it's good for both Sony and Microsoft to be doing this....hopefully in the future Microsoft can get original xbox games up and running on xbox one...not sure if it's going to be possible, but we'll see.

[maniacmayhem]

Yea, I remember a lot of Sony fans on this site quoting Sony as saying that BC was hardly ever used and then these same people saying they would rather play new games than old ones. Now, it's a great "feature" to have, something Nintendo/Xbox fans were saying since day one when they were under attack and "overhyping" it.

[nitus10]

This is not backwards compatibility but software emulation that can play PS2 and possibly PS1 games. If those people who are not interested then fine since it won't effect you one way or the other.

I have said this before. I don't object to Sony charging for digital downloads of PS2 and possibly PS1 games however I do object to having to play for games I already own so hopefully the emulator will have a feature for reading and installing PS2 and possibly PS1 game disks images for play via the emulator.

[rainslacker]

I could have sworn both sides said it wasn't a big deal before this gen started, and the whole argument died down.

I also remember most people from both sides saying it wasn't that big of a system seller before this gen started.

I also remember that some of the more extreme Xbox fan boys can't really discern the difference between true BC and streaming/emulation....which lets be honest, Sony and MS both did last gen with Xbox classics and PS1/2 classics. I mean, right now, Sony isn't offering more with their PS2 classics than they did last gen on the PS3, so why is Sony getting so much hate for it, and so many people acting like it's such a big new thing for fighting out the console wars with?

Christ, almost no one last gen seemed to discuss the PS1/2 BC on the original PS3's, nor did anyone seem to care that much that PS1 games were fully BC all gen on the PS3.

Just let the people that want to use the features use them, and those that want to use it as a fan boy fodder can just keep it to themselves, because it's pretty obvious that they care more about inciting hate than playing older games.

I'm personally excited for both companies to be offering what they are, and I can say right now, I absolutely do hope that Sony offers a BC solution more in line with MS. If MS forced their hand, then I say great. Not going to gush over MS because of it, nor care how it came about...just going to enjoy the feature since I am a regular player of prior gen games, and it's a big reason my PS2 was planned to be kept in service for many years to come.

[OB1Biker]

No its not a big deal either but its cool for people who are interested just like I said about BC on xb1. Of course you will see the same opinion pieces blowing things out of proportion for both and fan boys running with it.
Edit: with the new site layout I realised to late its Gamingbolt and clicked on it.. damm haha You should know by now that site is all about controversy and fanboy wars (in their agenda)

[SpaceRanger]

It's a big deal like BC on the Xbox one. The main difference is that they're not crying at the top of their lungs that it's a "Console Seller" feature lol and they're not praising it like its the second coming or that no one else has it when the Wii U had it from the start lol

[maniacmayhem]

No one was crying at the top of their lungs, no one said no other console didn't have it and I doubt many said it was a console seller. But I did see a lot of sony fanboys in every Xbox BC article claiming they read nothing but this.

[HawaiianDreads]

@maniacmayhem Then you must have selective memory, because I remember seeing the Sony fanboys trying to down play this while the Xbox fanboys were making a huge deal out of this, while rubbing it in the Sony fanboys face.

[magiciandude]

No, it wasn't a big deal at all, or so you Sony fanboys said during E3 up until Sony announced PS2 emulation. The Sony camp is now trying fix what they've said about Xbox One's BC in the past with their usual cheap spin tactics.

No doubt BC moved some Xbox One's. It moved a few people I know personally. It's a selling point for some people, regardless what you say about it. I've seen this first hand, and I've spoken with GameStop employees that know me on a personal level. They said Xbox One sales have been on the incline since the announcement at E3. I've also met a few new friends just because of that feature.

The bucket loads of cheap PSN games you call "variety" that flood the PS4 are touted daily by Sony fanboys as a huge selling point over the Xbox One. Why do you take issue with Xbox fans considering their feature a selling point? Do you think nobody will more likely upgrade from their 360s to the Xbox One? Get real here...

[Ezz2013]

Lies and lies from Xbox camp who love to flip flop so much

E3 2015: Xbox One Backward Compatibility Update Enables 360, XBLA:
http://n4g.com/news/1742559...

All the comments from Xone camp :
"MEGATON"
"That was a finger to Sony"
"Single biggest announcement of E3"
"Megaton of all Megaton"
"Nuclear bomb dropped"

rinse and repeat for the whole comment section in that article
and you guys have the guts to say you didn't treat that news as big deal ?!

@magiciandude
**No, it wasn't a big deal at all**

lol, i just found your comment in that article:

"This is the best news I've heard the entire generation. Megaton!"

Not a big deal you say ?! lolXD

[gangsta_red]

@Ezz

So wait, you are mistaken enthusiasm and excitement for a feature as some kind of negative like SpaceRanger here is suggesting?

Please show the comments that said NO OTHER CONSOLE has it. Please list the comments that said it's a system seller, please show the comments that praised it like the second coming...No?

All you did is quote fans who are excited that a feature that was highly requested is coming to XBO.

Similar to when Shenmue III was presented at E3 and this site lit up with "Sony won E3", "Sony loves gamers" and similar specific quotes. Should we also apply that to all Sony fans and say that they were praising it to high heaven, screaming at the top of their lungs and other over exaggerated statements like Space Ranger there suggested?

Maniac is right and now he has you to prove it once again. It's Sony fanboys over exaggerating and trying to turn general excitement into some kind of negative .

Now we're seeing that same type of excitement here in this article and somehow it's different than in the Xbox article.

[Ezz2013]

@gangsta_red

Lol, It's kinda sad that you look for my comments i made from 2days ago
just so you can reply to anything when no one looking
What a sad life you must have
I didn't even know that you reply to this comment until a friend of mine saw it and notify me about it.

Xbox fanboys here keep say how they didn't make a big deal out Xbox BC
and i did my job pointing out that they are hypcrites and they indeed made a big deal out of it....and here you are doing your best to defened them and playing with words
but i didn't expect anything less from Xbox fanboy like yourself, red
and i didn't say anything about :
"NO OTHER CONSOLE has it"
"it's a system seller"
"the second coming"
In my comment ....feel free to point that out.

I said they made a big deal out of it as a MEGATON and Nuclear bomb dropped....which they did and that was the point of my reply.

**Now we're seeing that same type of excitement here in this article and somehow it's different than in the Xbox article.**

No, we are not
Show me the same amount of comments that as comments like :

"MEGATON"
"That was a finger to Sony"
"Single biggest announcement of E3"
"Megaton of all Megaton"
"Nuclear bomb dropped"

Or even like them
And those are very few
the comment section in Xone BC article is full of those type of comments.
http://n4g.com/news/1742559...

You are just as hypcrite, Red
and no that's not just *excitement*
that's making a big deal out of something that isn't big deal what so ever
whatever it's on Ps4 or Xone
and it was even funny when i pointed out one of the hypcrites here....and if there is Ps fanboy here saying it's a big deal somewhere here then he is as hypcrite as those Xbox fanboys.
Only one saying *it's big deal* so far is a DEVELOPER.

--------------------------
Also about your comment:
" The only ones who pulls that victim card is you time and time again. "

Where ?!
where did i play the victim card again and again?!
and Gamingbolt is a trash who love to talk too much about DX12 and fuel consoles war
That's was my opinion from the start
but
*release notes shown by the official SDK release update*
and What xbox fanboys do ?! ...say that now Ps gamers believe or trust Gamingbolt
even though Gamingbolt have nothing to do with it this time because it was reported on other sites including Gamespots and others

You are soo full of it,Red.

[Germany7]

Playing the victim card again? What a surprise.

[Spotie]

Who's saying it's a big deal now, and who was saying it wasn't before? Are they the same people?

If not, what the hell are you even talking about?

[maniacmayhem]

Well should you be trying to do your best to bring these Sony fans back down to Earth? And one look through these comments and reading people's excitement not to mention THE ACTUAL ARTICLE should tell you that it seems to be a big deal.

Or are you just here to bring Xbox fans only "back down to Earth?"

[Spotie]

What needs to be brought down to earth? Which comments label it as the best thing ever? Who is calling it a game changer?

Oh, only Xbox fans who are trying to call Sony fans hypocrites.

[magiciandude]

@Hicken

Please provide proof that Xbox fans said BC is THE best thing ever. All I remember was it's one of the greatest features the console has, which is just a harmless opinion. I do agree that playing your Xbox 360 games on the same console with your new games is a godsend. Who in their right mind has this much an issue with convenience as you Sony people do? Why do you take issue with the opinions of Xbox fans loving BC to death? They love it. That's something that makes them happier with their console. That's something that makes the Xbox One more attractive to Xbox 360 fans deciding which next gen console (for them) to upgrade to.

Most of us aren't collectors with a bunch of old electronics piled up around our TV. Get off your high horse Hicken. You Sony clowns are just as bad, if not worse, than the Xbox fans getting excited over a highly requested feature becoming actual. Not to mention you guys are the biggest hypocrites on the entire planet, as proven by the comments in this article, yours also.

As far as it being a game changer, well that looks about right. Funny how Sony, shortly after the announcement of MS' BC, now announced PS2 emulation on the PS4 to compete with Xbox One's BC. Although you said in the past that PS2 BC will be better just because PS2 has more games than the 360, it remains to be known how this BC works, that if it covers disk-based support of most PS2 games, or that it's just limited to downloadable classics. If it's the latter, then no doubt only a sliver of this massive PS2 library will be compatible on the PS4 even by the end of this generation.

In addition to that, you'd have a lot of spinning to do, spewing out the usual hypocritical hot garbage in the process. :)

@Digital

Best news this generation and best thing ever are different. I did think it was the best news so far this generation at the time, but not best thing ever. This generation has been a long three years of mostly disappointment. The Wii U being revealed as a next gen console with very little to bring to the table apart from some tablet controller. The Xbox One for their DRM issues, and PS4 for pulling a leaf out of MS's book and charging for online play. Since then, PS+ content has been disappointing most of the time. In addition to that, PS4 fans were being treated with mediocre games like Knack, Killzone Shadowfall, The Order 1886, Driveclub, and inFamous Second Son, with only one really good game, Bloodborne.

Seeing remasters flooding retailers and the digital storefronts for both consoles is getting ridiculous. Even RE6, of all games, gets a port. TLOU releasing only a year from launch of the original PS3 game is a slap in the face to Sony fans supporting their highly-rated exclusives until the end of the PS3 generation. All I've heard from the most die-hard Sony fans is silly excuses that "it's for Xbox players switching to PS." Sony fanboys all of a sudden care about Xbox fans only if they buy their console. The damage control from these guys is amazing and unmatched.

BC for Xbox 360 is something Xbox fans have wanted and it happened. It's a nice change of things for this lukewarm and a bit disappointing generation, but I never said it's the best thing ever in that quote. You're just like Spotie, taking the excitement of gamers getting the fanservice they wanted, and blowing it up into something else. Not to mention you had to reach for some quote that said different than what Spotie accused Xbox fans for.

"And PS2 emulation is not even backwards compatibility"

PS2 emulation is backward compatibility. Stop hitting yourself.... stop hitting yourself... stop hitting yourself....

[lobocob]

You will drive yourself crazy if you value logic and rational thought in this community

[Ezz2013]

Don't try using commen sense with them,Spotie.

[DigitalRaptor]

@ Magiciandude

What. An. Embarrassment.

Try doing research: http://n4g.com/news/1742559...

Your comment on there: "This is the best news I've heard the entire generation. I am going to have a happy evening when I get back home from work. Megaton!"

Stop hitting yourself.... stop hitting yourself... stop hitting yourself.... https://www.youtube.com/wat...

And PS2 emulation is not even backwards compatibility, and what Sony is doing with old games is not even comparable. It's so embarrassing to see bitter Xbox fanboys stumbling over themselves to make themselves feel better by creating a noise about fake hypocrisy.

[Ezz2013]

@digitalraptor

I'm still waiting for him to reply to my above comment.

[rainslacker]

We're all one person Spotie....you and I are an amorphous mob with a single mind...and multiple accounts apparently.

I do understand the need to generalize certain groups for making an argument, but there are times when it pays to qualify who exactly one is talking about. While I'm guilty of generalizing to the extreme, I do try to call out individuals isntead, because it's easier to back up, and sometimes, the majority is hard to judge what they actually think from one moment to the next.

[DigitalRaptor]

@ Magiciandude

"Best news this generation and best thing ever are different."

Nice backtracking, and nice spin - it's actually quite an epic level of spin considering how you said so little from so much. From somebody like yourself, it has pretty much the same connotation. Regardless, instead of being pedantic, just go through that link I posted, and you don't have to look hard to see people going off on a limb to imply this is the be-all and end-all feature.

Next up, you're calling a number of quality games, mediocre, and what's that.... ? They're PS4 exclusives? Wow. And then you go on about TLOU Remastered being a slap in the face, which is only hyperbole that a fanboy would use. Why are you even bringing up all this biased opinion in an unrelated article? Like I said you are spinning so, so hard here.
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"The damage control from these guys is amazing and unmatched."
"Not to mention you guys are the biggest hypocrites on the entire planet"

Again more shoddy, disgustingly disingenuous and unfounded claims. I exposed you on claims like that here: http://n4g.com/news/1828342...

But see what you're doing here? You're putting together a hodgepodge of desperate, unrelated fanboy criticisms to try and make Sony, the PS4 and its fans seem like the worst, without even going as far as being representative of both. And why are you even mentioning things like "claims that 360 fans are buying PS4s". I mean seriously... it's neither on topic, nor something a balanced gamer would say. It's a bitter, personal thing that proves you were a dedicated 360 fanboy last-gen and even more so this gen. Your behaviour is nothing short of fanboy, so it's time to stop pretending.

[DigitalRaptor]

And NO..... what we have been told about PS2 emulation on PS4 is very little. We can only go off of what we know, until we hear more. So far we have been shown a small handful of PS2 games that have been given trophy support and have an upscaler for the resolution and frame rate. The Sony twitter account was even asking us what games we'd like to see..... which would indicate that this appears to be for some select titles and not the entire library. That is not backwards compatibility. BC is when you put in any original format disc, and expect it to work, and it plays your game from the disc. So you can't have it both ways. It's either backwards "COMPATIBLE" or it's not. We'll have to wait and see.

So... do your research instead of trying and failing.... and like I said, stop hitting yourself.
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"As far as it being a game changer, well that looks about right. Funny how Sony, shortly after the announcement of MS' BC, now announced PS2 emulation on the PS4 to compete with Xbox One's BC"

If you do your research, it's actually not that funny, and you are the laughable one in this instance. Here, you're even distinguishing between PS4 "emulation" and XB1 "BC". The two are different and I'm glad you're happy with your own hypocrisy. Aside from that, only a fanboy with few cards short of a deck would actually believe the Sony has developed and demonstrated a consumer level, PS2 emulation on PS4, with enhanced visuals, performance and added trophy support in less than 6 months in reaction to something that MS announced that is not even affecting their business or hindering the success of their console in the slightest.

Not to mention the related patent that Sony filed back in 2013: http://www.pushsquare.com/n...

Or the semi-confirmation of PS2 games on PS4 in September, which by your logic would indicate that Sony developed PS2 emulation, in not 5 months but in 3 months.... just to compete... HAHAHA http://www.realtytoday.com/...

Yeah... because that is totally feasible..... /s

[Rookie_Monster]

Of course it is a big deal. It is on the PS4 now. Just like streaming games on PC wasn't important, now with news Sony making remote play on PC, it is amazing or Achievements wasn't important before Sony added Trophies on their system. That is how most of the crowd roll on N4G.

I had been saying BC is amazing from the beginning and if Sony support disc Based PS2 titles for the games I already owned, I fully be embracing it.

[Liqu1d]

Everything you listed isn't a big deal. They're cool options, nothing more.

[LP-Eleven]

I'd love to know who's made it a big deal??? Most Sony fans I've seen here are happy with PS2 emulation, but didn't require it to enjoy their systems.

Sounds like a case of people making mountains out of mole hills.

[Ezz2013]

And who said any of that a **big deal** again ?!

It's not for me since i still own my ps2,ps1,ps3
i could care less about BC.

[Ricegum]

Sigh. Microsoft fans man. See, comments like this just sound like they're salty to me since Sony is going to be offering B/C too, so they can't brag anymore. Plus Sony's is a much bigger deal since it's PS2 emulation which is obviously far more interesting and popular than 360 games, which we have played only a few years back. Playing PS2 games again is going to be so refreshing, I'm so hyped for this.

[maniacmayhem]

It is funny to see Sony doing everything MS's Xbox 1 is.

[DigitalRaptor]

Just like cross-play on PlayStation wasn't a big deal until Xbox One had it. Just like a monthly subscription for having games at no extra cost wasn't a big deal until Xbox started offering it. Just like sales are not a big deal.... until Xbox wins a month in NPD. Just like multiplats performing worse on Xbox is not a big deal, until there is an instance of Xbox outperforming PS4 or some news about DX12 and Cloud comes out and fans consider it relevant. Just like PSVR is not a big deal, will flop etc. - until Microsoft announced HoloLens and Oculus Rift support for Xbox One. Just like indies weren't a big deal on PS4, until Xbox One started getting more of them. Just like Japanese games on PS4 are niche and laughable, until Xbox gets a couple and then those are deemed worthy. Just like a game-focused and snappy OS doesn't matter, until Xbox gets an update to give it those things.

That is how most of the Xbox fanboy crowd in and outside of N4G roll.
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@ maniacmayhem

Xbox One is not giving a resolution or performance boost on backwards compatible 360 games, and it's not providing achievements on unsupported titles either. Aside from that, you guys are all wrong. PS2 emulation here is not even backwards compatibility, which is why nobody other than Xbox fanboys are trying to draw out some kind of hypocrisy where it doesn't exist. If what most people think this is, is true, then it's just the ability to buy PS2 games on PS4 with upgrades. Try harder.

[rainslacker]

@digital

That's how all fan boys roll both in and outside of N4G. One thing you can count on with fan boys is that they are at least consistent with their hate, and that they both make stupid arguments.

[SegaGamer]

It's always been a big deal to me, same goes with any kind of backwards compatibility.

I think a few people on here need to realise that we aren't all a bunch of fanboys.

[DarXyde]

I wouldn't believe it's a big deal if it was
BC for PS3, but that's really just because it's only last gen. What Microsoft did with X360 BC was indeed a great move, but there aren't many games that need revisiting to me from last gen. But PS2 being my favorite console of all time and having these games possibly sporting resolution bumps and trophies make it an obvious win. I've already stated since day one that I'd only care for BC if it included PS2 games. Naturally, there's hypocrisy, but you're painting with broad strokes here.

The truth is what Sony is doing and what Microsoft is doing are not synonymous; you cannot accurately compare them. Both bring classics to the table, but one is talking about games from 2 generations ago with possible improvements.

It would be wrong to have objections to either since both are offering improvements to the pre-existing library, but naturally, people will care about one more than the other. In this case, you better believe I care about PS2 more than X360, especially since that's still hooked up.

Now if it supports games with online functions, that would be legendary. I'd love to replay Resident Evil Outbreak with my mates.

[rainslacker]

Funny enough, I played most of the games available on the 360 last gen on my PS3. The exclusives for the 360 don't really get me overly excited for the feature, especially since it's not known how many of them will make it to the approved list. Not that there aren't a few I would like to play, but I'm not drooling over the apparent ability to finally do so. It may be convenient to not have to buy a 360 for those few games though.

I did play a lot of PS2/1 games last gen on my PS3 also, because I have a full BC PS3. I wouldn't mind some improvements, and trophy support added in could give me another reason to revisit some older games that I've played to death on those occasions when I get tired of more modern games.

[jay2]

I don't agree what Xbox one did was better, upscaling, trophies and 60fps to me justifies re-buying the games (not that I will get many)

[LP-Eleven]

There's a difference between upscaling 720p games and upscaling PS2 games. If it were PS3 titles, your comparison would be spot on.

[TheFirstClassic]

Uh, what is the difference? I would assume it will work the same way on ps2 emulators on the pc, and they look great at higher resolutions.

[LP-Eleven]

@ cpayne93:

Uh, you're telling me that PS2 games will upscale just like 360 games would? One is coming from 720p. PS2 games would have to go from way below that to 1080p.

[TheFirstClassic]

Yes, there would have to be a larger increase in resolution to get to 1080p. What difference does that make in practice? Ps2 emulation is easier in general so meeting 1080p through ps2 would be easier than ps3 emulation in 1080p.

I just don't understand what your point is.

[UserNameIsNotTaken]

Agreed. Trophies will definitely bring back some trophy hunters! I'm one of them.

[Masterchief_thegoat]

As long we don't have to be force to pay PS now. I'm ready to put my socom and 2

[WickedLester]

I barely have time to play current titles. I can't imagine going back 2 generations ago to play old games again. For those excited for this, great! For me, meh.

[AnubisG]

Well there are some people who like playing old games. I regularly play PS1 games on my PS3. It's up to you to decide what you want to play. I don't have much time either but sometimes it feels good to go back.

[WelkinCole]

Same here. Got 15 games now on backlog. Makes me laugh every time xbox fans claims the PS4 does not have any games.

[WickedLester]

I feel ya' man! Open world games are killing me LOL! I absolutely love them but man has it made me less prolific as a gamer. I'm still playing Witcher 3 right now and right behind it I have Batman Arkham Knight and Metal Gear 5! I want Fallout 4 as well but I'm not even entertaining the notion of buying that until I finish the backlog I already have!

[Summons75]

There are a lot of games that are worth replaying on older systems and people who grew up with the systems have very fond memories of the games and possibly the events going on in our lives at the time. It's fun to go back and replay/remember.

[rainslacker]

I have 6 generations worth of backlog. However, I will say that pre-PS1, most of them are play them for a while then move on with some exceptions on platformers and RPG's. More often than not I try to play them on compilation releases because they tend to have improved resolutions, or at the very least I can use nicer controllers from the original.

There is something special about playing the old Gradius games on an original NES controller though.

[AnubisG]

I just want to play Onimusha again. That's all.

[StormLegend]

Trophies make it worth playing

[nitus10]

For some trophies are great for others like myself they don't care although I don't have any objection to them.

[SegaGamer]

Trophy support and upscalling is the most appealing thing for me. If it didn't do these things then i would probably just stick to playing them on a PS2.

[SNACK_SHARK_TROLL]

If they can't get the PS4 to play PS2 disk based games with all the benefits of the downloaded PS2 game version.Then It'll be cool if they offer the option to either download the PS2 game(s) for cash (The Buy out Version), or you can download it for free, but you must insert the disk of that specific game to play it (the required DIsk version), similar to how battlefield 4 did, if you wanted to upgrade the game from the PS3 to the PS4, expect that required you to pay a small fee.

[nitus10]

I would rather the emulator could read your PS2 disk and install it as an image onto the PS4 where it could then be played by the emulator. I would expect that to be a free service although I don't have any objection to Sony charging for a digital download of a PS2 game that is not already owned by the player.

[rainslacker]

Some PS2 games were actually on CD, and the laser may not be able to read them.

Otherwise, there are probably copyright laws which prevent Sony from ripping the disc to the hard drive without the publishers consent...although requiring the actual disc to be inserted could circumvent that.

MS solution would seem to be the most logical for Sony as well, because Sony can't just deem that these games should be playable on the new system on behalf of the publisher as far as I'm aware. Maybe they have some latitude given prior gens, but usually the games are licensed to play on a specific set of hardware. The older systems until the software PS1 emulation on PS3, all ran on the actual hardware internally, so they probably sidestepped that whole copyright thing. The PS2/3 even boot up into the PS1 boot screen when inserting a PS1 game

[superterabyte]

I hope we can play using discs because I very much doubt that the games that I'll want to play will be made available on the store as the weren't on the PS3.

[Tsunade]

That is good for those who like playing old games. Hope you guys enjoy it.

[corroios]

they can put those game on the free that they give with the ps plus.

[Kalebninja]

Okay, unless they add trophies I could care less. If I want to play a game from 2 gens ago I can get it on my PC in HD.

[StormLegend]

If no trophies then no buy from me.

I wanna play some of my favorites and platinum them.

[JackEffinBlack]

Trophies have been confirmed and double-confirmed for a couple of months, now...

[Kalebninja]

How so? We were only just told that ps2 emulation will happen.

[JackEffinBlack]

@Kalebninja

Check out NXGamer on YouTube. He did a video on the PS2 versions of the Star Wars games packaged with the Limited Edition version of Battlefront. He had confirmed that the games were reported by PS2 emulator software with trophy support, about 900p resolution, and solid 60fps. But HipHopGamer has also confirmed from a SONY insider that at PSX they'll reveal that games will be added to PS Now like PS3 games, and not *necessarily* a disc-based option. Which...I'm good with me using my 3-month PS Now subscription to play PS1/2/3 games across a number of different platforms easily, to be truthful...

[Realms]

Vice City on the ps4 would definitely replay it one of my favorite games of all time.

[Yetter]

The hypocrisy in this comment section is truly incredible

[Dinkis]

I thought BC wasn't a big deal lol. I guess some ppl were wrong

[TwistedMetal]

look at them disagrees you have lol. Im about to give you one more bro.

[kenshiro100]

Who's making a big deal out of BC?

Its nice to have but it's not a game changer. Stop playing victim cards already.

[Dinkis]

Who's playing victim? I'm certainly not hurt by this. I think its great and I don't need to give you any proof. Just go to any thread on this site about xbone BC and theirs plenty down playing it like its not a big deal but here in this thread its hot and ppl welcome it like they should

[kenshiro100]

But nobody's jumping up and down in this thread. BC is great but it doesn't change the fact that new games move sales.

The 'b-but they said this!' nonsense is silly, at best.

[Spotie]

Gimme proof, Yetter. Show me who is being a hypocrite, both with their original comment, and with what they're saying now.

These cries of hypocrisy are always accompanied by a whole lot of NOTHING in terms of proof.

[SegaGamer]

Exactly, i fail to see how i am in any way a hypocrite. I have always loved the idea of backwards compatibility.

[Realms]

@yetter

LOL anyone that claims BC is not a good feature is lying but it's not a deal breaker a game changer it's just nice to have. Funny thing is MS fanboys were claiming it would somehow change the video game world when BC has been around on other consoles and it wasn't made a big deal.

Sorry but the ps2 lineup is massive and brining those games over kind of makes sense. Hypocrites are those that constantly try to move the goal post to fit there own agenda.

[magiciandude]

Seems like a game changer when Sony announced BC with a console two generations old, shortly after MS did with their previous generation console. :D

[rainslacker]

The number of people calling out hypocrisy in off-topic comments and not getting flagged for it is incredible as well.

But hey...that's N4G for you.

Have any actual opinion on the feature itself?

[Tobsesan]

Hope they will ad ps1 games in the future, i love crash and spyro.

[PS4XBOXONEPC]

Gamingbolt.com=SPAM

can't wait to play ps2 games on my ps4,this is great news!

[DDMNeo]

I'm happy about this, but one thing concerns me. Pretty sure (based on some of the comments on N4G) that there's a lot of babbies of the PS2 gen commenting, so they might have forgotten the fact that there was the whole pressure sensitive buttons on the DS2. I wonder how they'll work around it, or if they even can since the DS4 doesn't have that capability.

[Fin_The_Human]

Good question...hope Sony has thought about this.

[MasterCornholio]

The same way the Vita handles MGS3 and MGS2 which used pressure sensitive buttons on the PS2.

[DDMNeo]

They remapped the game, but you forget they're not changing the games. They're just emulating them.

[MasterCornholio]

@DD

Well i remapped control schemes all the time with my emulators.

I dont see why Sony cant do the same with PS2 emulation.

[Dragonking007]

Wonder if they would add trophy support

[neocores]

From what i been hearing developer can add trophy's so the games :D

[neocores]

:D i can finally dust off my Ps2 games from my Closet. I really hope they allow us to use Disc. :D we can only hope.... plz :D

[SegaGamer]

If we can use PS2 disc's AND all games have upscaled resolutions and Trophies, then this will be one of the best features i have ever seen added to a console.

If we can only get the games digitally, it will be a bit of a bummer.

[JasonKCK]

Before PS2 BC: BC is overrated and not needed.
After PS2 BC: Fantastic, greatest thing ever!

Pick something and stick to it for a change.

[LP-Eleven]

As asked above, who called this the greatest thing ever that said otherwise before?

[WelkinCole]

Umm BC is overrated before and after this.

I have a backlog of 15 games on the PS4.

However as I said before. It is a nice feature for those that want it.

But again it is not a game changer feature. The PS4 will not suddenly sell an extra million plus console a month because of PS2 bc.

As I said it is already 2 years in this console gen and there are crapload of PS4 games.

PS4 without BC has managed to sell 1.3 million a month without BC more than any other console. That alone is proof bc is not a game changer but you folks still refuse to believe it.

[Spotie]

Why do you guys keep saying this when NOBODY has that reaction?

[maniacmayhem]

NOBODY!? Have you not read the comments in this article?

[Spotie]

Who?

Who has said it's the greatest thing ever?

[TripleCs]

@JasonKCK

I don't care much for the feature as I've stated several times before and I still don't care much about the feature now that Sony has announced it. I'll use it to try it out of course but it Isn't something I'll use a lot. I don't really see PlayStation fans denying that it's a great feature and as I've said before, it is a great feature, there's no denying that it's a great feature but I also don't see PlayStation fans making claims that it's going to sell millions of consoles and somehow have a big effect towards console sales like people in another camp. People in the Xbox camp are making this feature into a way bigger deal than it really is and I don't see people in the PlayStation camp doing that. People in the PlayStation camp are treating this feature like fan service and are greatful Sony is adding the feature, nothing more.

You have people in 1 camp that are overhyping the feature like it's the second coming of jesus, acting like it's somehow going to turn the tide for their console of choice and sell millions of consoles.

And you have people in another camp that are not overhyping the feature and are only treating it as fan service and not acting like the feature is going to sell millions of consoles.

There's a difference between both camps in terms of how they're reacting to the feature. 1 camp is overhyping the feature, acting like it's going to have a big effect on consoles sales war and turn the tide for their console of choice and the other camp is greatful for the feature but not overhyping the feature and only treating it as fan service.

[NotanotherReboot]

If this isn't a means of allowing you to play your original discs, then it sucks. Simple as.

Also, why are Playstation fans so excited for this? You do realize all those HD collections you bought last gen are now redundant on the PS4?

[LP-Eleven]

Again, show us the "excited PlayStation fans."

[nitus10]

Emulation of PS2 games on the PS4 is a nice feature but not a game changer and am quite sure most PlayStation fans are aware, or at least should be aware of this.

I definitely do agree with you with regard to being able to play your original PS2 disks however for those people that don't have the disk for a particular game I don't object to a fee being charged to download the image.

As for people downloading HD collections for their PS3 well too bad since PS3 games are not supported on the PS4.

Basically I prefer media rather than a digital download and I definitely don't buy on-line only games but then again to each their own.

[chaosx]

still keen to hear if this is a feature thats adds value to the PS4 or if this is a money grab by Sony. It will be pretty sucky to not be able to just share my friends PS2 games by them simply handing me a disc. /s

seriously this whole thing is just going to be used as marketing tool to say PS4 has the largest number of game titles available on a current platform.

[nitus10]

PS2 emulation is definitely a feature that adds value to the PS4 and possibly additional revenue to Sony and PS2 game developers. One thing this is not is a game changer since there will be many that have no interest in playing older games.

As far as marketing goes all companies try to push their products, so touting PS2 emulation just as Microsoft touting XBox360 emulation on their XB1 is a valid business practice.

[u-bEttA-rUn]

So I get to replay SSX 3 Burnout 2 burnout 3 Burnout Revenge Bloody war Marvel vs Capcom 2 Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2
And Black?
Dragon Ball Z Budokai 3

[FN4GM]

Its really not that big of a deal, its a niche interest just as BC on xbone is, its just a vocal minority making it sound like it matters when it really doesn't.

[Skate-AK]

Fatal Frame series, Siren and Rule of Roses please.

[GreenUp]

SOCOM 1 and 2, Need For Speed: Underground 1 and 2, Battlefield 2: Modern Combat, Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2. These are the games I want to play again. All with online support. :)

[cutthroatslim]

sounds fantastic

[PizzaSteve]

I've played just about all the PS2 games I wanted to play so not a big deal.

[fonduktoe]

i wanna play intelligent cube...amazing game

[Orionsangel]

SSX series please!!!

[fitfox]

Give me PS2 disc backwards compatibility and will be square SONY

[Kingoftherodeo]

while this is cool is not a big deal most of us who grew up on the ps2 era played the shhhh out of all those games. the ones who have nostalgia for the ps2 games have been emulating them for a while on pc.

I'm pretty sure most gamers kept their ps2 games which means they kept their ps2's. only other place that still find these games is eBay or gamestop. the minute they start to move a few games prices will go up.

what people really want was ps3 games

[Yui_Suzumiya]

Actually I started with the NES in 1990. I wasn't even gaming during the ps2 era got back into gaming in 2007. Yeah, played a bunch of PS2 games on my PS3 but this is still quite welcome because alot of them I wouldn't mind playing again. I also missed the Fatal Frame games so I'd love to finally play them.

[X-23]

PS2 has one of the greatest gaming libraries of all time. I'll take PS2 Emulation over PS3 Emulation any day.

[lastking95]

The hypocrisy.....IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!!
Nappa: "over 9000! No way." lol

[Condemnedman]

This is honestly good news for PS4 owners, but I just dont get the ps2 hype I hated that gen.

[Many-hat5]

I own: Gaming PC,Xboxone,PS4.....
PS2 emulation on PS4 really is, a big deal.Setting aside all the issues surrounding how it will be implemented from a financial perspective - Personally,I would be happy with a digital purchase option if it turns out not to be free.However, and I don't know if this point has already been mentioned, but the technical requirements of doing this right, far exceed what MS has donewith 360 BC,IMHO.Here's why.Both the 360 and X1 provide digitial display outputs,natively.Both are HDMI based machines,therefore as long as X1 has sufficent Graphics grunt -which it does,then it's just going to output 360 level graphics with a few enhancement.Now, I know I'm simplifying here,and obviously 360 BC isn't EASY, but hopefully, you get my point.The PS2 however,outputs it's display in analogue format - geared up for old CRT output.Anyone who has ever connected their PS2 up on a nice big LCD display will know exacly how pixellated and crappy the games look on digital displays. And there's the rub.For this to be successful,they will need to convert the output to suit digital displays - that's not easy to do. Just increasing res and and textures and adding a bit of AA,will not do it.I am really looking forward to this,but it needs to be done right.I await to be amazed.

[LastcenuryRob]

The hypocrisy here is thick. I hate to troll...well, I kinda hate to troll but sooooo many PS4 owners were all over the X1 with negative comments when they announced 360 bc for the X1. Some of those same negative Nancy's are now on here saying how great PS2 bc on the PS4 will be. Personally, I think it is great for the PS4 as it is great for the X1. Many games will be re-discovered and some new owners will get to see what they missed out on generations past. Some incredible classics will now be readily available on both consoles. Also, having an all in one console simply saves some space and is a bit more convenient overall. I like the idea of bc and hope it is a mainstay with all systems in the future. I just don't like the hypocrisy of some "gamers" out there... Oh well, what can you do. Enjoy the PS2 games! Lots of gaming goodness there!

[Spotie]

Saying BC won't help the XB1 win the generation is NOT being a negative Nancy. It's being realistic.

Folks have been saying it's a nice feature that's not a game changer. It wasn't an announcement that should have been pointed to as why Microsoft won E3.

And be honest: which of the two libraries is generally considered to be better, PS2 or 360?

Nobody's praising this move as the best ever. It's not a game changer, and no one is calling it that. But if there's ONE advantage, it's that the library of the PS2 is better than that of the 360, generally speaking.

[Dinkis]

"Saying BC won't help the XB1 win the generation is NOT being a negative Nancy. It's being realistic."
I don't recall any Xbox fan saying it was going to be a game changer. PS fans that say that are a negative Nancy because there throwing that in there to just to down play it. I know its not a game changer and hope everyone else know that too

[D3juan1]

I hope they have Def Jam Fight For New York and NFL Streets 2! Man I loved those games.

[airforcex]

This is damage control from Sony. Not against new features but MS won BC by a mile...

[Majin-vegeta]

How is this damage Control??Lol we knew they were already working on some form of emulation since early last year when the patent showed up online.Nice try though.

[MannGamer]

This is no bigger than Xbox One Backward Compatibility. People are not going to buy a PS4 to play PS2 games. Is it nice to have?? Absolutely amazing to have. But is that a system seller?? I don't think so. The system already sold 30.2 million at freaking $400 without ever mentioning PS2 BC. Games, brand recognition are selling PS4.

[xxLuckyStrike]

BC is only relevant to the crowd still stuck in last gen or in Sony's case last last gen XD jk.. Most of us want new games. FML haven't we all been remastered to death enough this gen already. I can play Nintendo ps1 ps2 XBOX games on my phone or laptop free. Plus BC is meh to me on my XBOX ONE.

But MC got a clever hook to get more 360 owners to upgrade to XB1.. They added 360 BC and NOBODY saw it coming... However Sony now found a way to counter XBOX 360 BC by BC bringing BC to PS4. I myself had a PS1 and PS2 way back when. Since the mobile and pc emulation plays most Nintendo ANS PS 1-2 games. Soo meh ..aaand be able to sell their fanboys a bunch more old games from last gen(s) and make it sound AWESOME lol XD

[Bismarn]

Not a big deal to me unless trophies.

[Feriku]

I hope they go the same path as Microsoft and let you use physical discs as well as digital games.

[spoonard]

So is this going to work with ANY disc or is it going to be like Xbox One where they have to use only discs that are approved by publishers?

[cuppa]

it would be cool if you could just buy a usb add on so you could play ps1,2,3 and even xbox games am talking a 3rd party add on

[BLAKHOODe]

I'm all for the ability to play any classic game - there are some gamers out there that will ONLY play the classics, BUT I've seen "classic game" consoles (like Atari) for sale at Toys R Us for like $25. And for that price, you not only get the console, but a TON of classic games that you can play FOREVER at no additional price. So I think Sony should make PS1/PS2 classics "free" to Playstation Plus subscribers... and I also think they should (and eventually will) follow Microsoft in not charging us to play the PS3 digital games we already bought.