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Kingdom Hearts: A bad series?

GE writes: "Even though Kingdom Hearts is right up there as my favourite game series (that’s why I have a group solely dedicated to it), I decided to do something a bit different. I’m not going to have one of these game sites that will not let people have an opinion. [One of my admins] Casey doesn’t like it. And nothing will change that. So, I’m going to look at all the bad things about Kingdom Hearts to try and understand his reasons."

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I-Hate-usernames3160d ago

I love kingdom hearts but sora is gay :)

Magicite3159d ago

No, he is not, he acts like a normal child most of time.

trywizardo3160d ago

I won't say its bad , but its not my cup of tea (and I hate tea)

trywizardo3159d ago

then its your cup of tea :P

Bimkoblerutso3159d ago

I have soured a bit to it as I've gotten older. I used to love all that melodrama and that convoluted plot, but now it's not really for me anymore.

To be fair, there's a lot of anime and JRPG's I feel the same way about. Got nothing against it, but it's not my cup of tea either...and I love tea.

Unlimax3160d ago

I would say it has a special place on peoples hearts , specifically for those who lived the early days of the PS2 era ( as for me when i got a PS1 gameshark disc this disc includes a trailer for the first KH in its early development and i gotta be honest i was literally hooked ) the OP / ED definitely has a huge impact .

Mark73160d ago

I agree beczzz i too hate this series...

MrSwankSinatra3160d ago (Edited 3160d ago )

I like KH and all, but one thing that irritates me about this series is the ocean sized amount of bullsh** jargon it has.

pivotplease3160d ago

Agreed. The story is so convoluted and forces you to suspend belief more and more with every iteration. Like oh we're fighting heartless. And oh you never really saw or heard about them before but now nobodies are all the rage. Now we're fighting dreams. What's next? Time lapse entities from alternate dimensions?

Spotie3160d ago

Well, there's a lot that's going on in ANY world. For somebody that's just thrown into being the hero, there's no way in hell you'd know about EVERYTHING going on. And there's no way enemies would sit around, knowing you're beating up on their mooks, and not come up with better mooks.

Honestly, it's not all that different from many other games. It just seems like a lot because it's introduced in increments through a half dozen games.

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Kingdom Hearts Is Too Hard To Get Into

Trying to break into Kingdom Hearts is a nightmare.

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wwinterj111d ago

Play the first game. That is a simple enough story to get into the series.

Crows90111d ago

Was going to say the same. It's really not hard to get into.

Hofstaderman111d ago

My advice; play the games in release order. Alot of people say story chronological order but that can be really confusing. Trust me.

Inverno111d ago

Read the manga, story makes more sense there.

-Gespenst-111d ago (Edited 111d ago )

I think a problem that SE is going to run into (or already has run into) with this series is that a lot of the people still following it were kids / teens when they played the first one, and are now much older. I know I'm finding it increasingly hard to tolerate the childishness of some of the stuff in these games, and I'm sure there are plenty of original players who have since just stopped following the series for this reason. I can't count the number of times I was playing KH3 and just feeling like, "What the f*** am I doing?"

SE can keep the series PG-13, and try to get a new audience of kids, but how do they intend to get kids into a series with a story that has been expanding since 2002, and over the course of like a dozen games? Especially when there are already loads of newer franchises out there that have already pretty much cornered the kids / teens market.

Honestly, I think they should either end the series once and for all, or take it in a more mature direction, and ditch the Disney stuff (I know, unpopular opinion, probably). It is a series that hasn't really grown with its audience, I feel. Alternatively, they could try to steer it in a more all-ages Studio Ghibli direction, sort of like Final Fantasy.

banger88111d ago

I felt this way with KH3 as well, ended up dropping it around half way through. I won't even bother with KH4.

CS7111d ago

Same here. Kingdom Hearts 3’s dialog was way to childish for me and I only played just to finish the story and wrap up the near 15 year wait.

I doubt I would be buying any other games unless they go in a more mature (all-ages) direction as OP said.

jambola110d ago

It doesn't help with Sora's loud stretched out constant yelling either

smashman98111d ago

you gotta remember Disney has to sign off on everything they do with KH. Disney is super protective of their IP,

Either way I don't disagree with you on a lot of this stuff becoming more and more of an issue. But it's okay that fans grow out of things like this. But if they do decide to keep it more for the young audience then they will have to solve the problem that the article mentions.

-Gespenst-110d ago

Yeah, I just don't know what they could do to get all the kids invested in it at this stage. The only thing I can think of is a total reboot, but that would be an enormous project, and they clearly have no intention of doing it. I mean, the series has just embarked upon another "saga", which, if it's anything like the last "saga", will take another 2 decades to complete, will consist of 6+ games, and will convolute the overall narrative even further (if that's even possible). It seems to me that, if this is SE's plan, and if they want people to still care about the series in 5-6 years time, then their only real option is to try to appeal more to a non-adolescent audience. Otherwise, the kids won't care because they won't have a clue what's going on, and the adults won't care because the series is too childish.

Having said all that, the Yozora stuff, and the footage we've seen from KH4, does seem to MAYBE indicate that the series is going in the direction I'm talking about, but it's too early to say for sure. KH4 might look completely different the next time we see it, knowing SE.

Crows90111d ago

Kingdom hearts 3 is horrible ..that's why you felt that way. It's the worst in the series by far.

FinalFantasyFanatic111d ago

My issue is with the decline of the writing which has been an issue for Square-Enix games across the board. KH3 should have gone out with a bang and felt very satisfying, but instead it was like a wet tissue and left feeling like I missed a lot of content. Having said that, KH3 was probably the last KH game I'll purchase.

Rainbowcookie110d ago

Im playing 3 as my first one and I got that same feeling. Enjoying the variety and combat but im not into the story...too confusing.

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GoodGuy09111d ago

Indeed. If you wanna give it a try, just go with 1-3. The other games are unfortunately needed to know but you can just youtube all the cutscenes by order of release of each game.

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8 Best Games Set In A Multiverse

One of the biggest TV and movie tropes in the last decade has been the multiverse, the idea of exploring multiple dimensions to uncover alternate versions of existing ideas. From both a business and creative perspective, it makes sense why established franchises are shaking things up in this way.

However, there aren't many video games latching on to this trend, as rendering multiple worlds in real-time is a difficult feat and the medium is relatively young in comparison to its contemporaries, making crossover opportunities more difficult. Still, there are a few great titles that manage enough to overcome these challenges, and here are some of the best examples.

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Christopher290d ago

While I love someone mentioning Planescape, not really multiverse. Planes and dimensions, yes. But, they are typically their own locations and are very rarely tied to another 'verse' let alone another plane. The only things that are directly tied are the ethereal and material planes. Otherwise, they are dimensions created of their own design and goals by the creator/owner and not comprised of 'their own version of another dimension'.

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Final Fantasy XVI Combat Owes A Lot To Kingdom Hearts Staff

NP: “When I played through Final Fantasy XVI, I occasionally found what I believed to be evident Kingdom Hearts gameplay inspirations that I’d rather not detail here due to spoilers. Still, with it having been previously confirmed that Kingdom Hearts staff was working on this title, the notion wasn’t all that surprising.

However, I didn’t realize how truly instrumental Kingdom Hearts team members were in developing Final Fantasy XVI. After digging through the title’s credits, I found crucial Kingdom Hearts development staff who played significant roles in ensuring the combat design excelled.”

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