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Insomniac: No Plans To Release Sunset Overdrive On Any Other Platform, R&C Trilogy PS4 Unlikely

Insomniac Games have made it clear that they have no plans to release Sunset Overdrive on any other platform.

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Aloy-Boyfriend3194d ago (Edited 3194d ago )

That's a shame. I loved Sunset Overdrive. It was worth the purchase and I could have bought it again on PS4. Hopefully the sequel will be multiplat.

And no! No R&C remaster for PS4. The remake is supposed to reboot the series. Start from there and make a sequel.

nucky643194d ago

not sure it's a shame - I've heard SO didn't sell very well.

Christopher3194d ago (Edited 3194d ago )

Good sales or not, it's an interesting IP that I'm certain a good number of PS4/PC players wouldn't mind getting their hands on without having to buy a new console.

GrimmQuiorra3194d ago

What in god's name does that have to do with anything?

There are plenty of amazing games that did not "sell well".

Does not take away from the fact that to alot of people, SO was an amazing game.

On a less fanboyish note: I would love to play this on PC. But alas, my wishes have been pooped on.

nucky643194d ago (Edited 3194d ago )

grimm - it's not on a "fanboyish" note. it's on a business note. the game may very well be good and I'm sure people enjoyed it; but, why would they release it on ps4 when it didn't sell well on the x1???

btw - you don't have to invoke gods name to get answers- just think first.

Christopher - you must not understand money very well. it DID NOT SELL WELL ON X1 - WHY would they port it to other formats and risk more POOR SALES???

DevilOgreFish3194d ago

would have liked to see this in 1440p at 60fps but i guess it looks quite nice as an exclusive. exclusives are meant to generate such hype.

donthate3194d ago (Edited 3194d ago )

nucky:

"not sure it's a shame - I've heard SO didn't sell very well. "

I heard it did really well, and Insomniac is really happy with the sales!

Here, I will provide you with some facts instead of hearsay: "Sunset Overdrive Console Bundle got sold out and lots of people were still looking for them!"

Google it!

GrimmQuiorra3194d ago

Because the install base on the PS4 is almost twice as big?..

That...may or may not be a good enough reason.

Idk.

Gazondaily3194d ago

"not sure it's a shame - I've heard SO didn't sell very well."

Its not a shame because a great game might not have sold well. Right.

Furthermore, I thought it did well?

sonarus3193d ago

To be perfectly honest i played it but wasnt that impressed. Its like pretty much all Insomniac games to me. I wouldnt go out of my way to buy them or play them or wouldnt be my top 5 game to play on any given day but it can provide some mild entertainment on occassion.

DevilOgreFish3193d ago

Maybe Insomniac believes in making exclusives.

Christopher3193d ago

***you must not understand money very well. it DID NOT SELL WELL ON X1 - WHY would they port it to other formats and risk more POOR SALES???***

What part of my comment said it should be ported? What part of my comment brought up anything about profit at all? I even prefaced my comment with "Good sales or not..."

I was expressing that even though it may not have performed as hoped, there are definitely a good number of people on PS4 who have shown interest in wanting to play the game.

That's all.

antz11043193d ago

Lol you need to get your ears checked.

ghostface93193d ago

its over a mill and thats not including digital purchases which is what came with all those sunset overdrive bundles. Thats pretty good for an excluisve early in the console cycle

AstroCyborg3193d ago

only corporate slaves care about sales

lvl_headed_gmr3193d ago

Bloodborne didn't sell very well. I guess that game sucks...

Your logic is seriously flawed.

Why is it everything evolves around sales this gen?

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Crimzon3193d ago

Aren't poor sales actually a strong reason for porting a game to other platforms? To try and recoup as much money from development as possible?

I've no idea how Sunset Overdrive sold however. Insomniac have said it exceeded sales expectations and that they were very happy with its performance, but people on N4G are saying it didn't sell very well? Seems kinda like Titanfall, where the actual companies involved say the game sold brilliantly but people on N4G say otherwise. It's weird. I wonder who's lying?

BallsEye3193d ago

Call of duty has sales over the roof. Is it an amazing game? Sales =/= great game.

Bathyj3193d ago

Did it occur to you it might have sold better if it were on Playstation?

Not just because the PS userbase is about double the XB userbase, thats just maths.
Not just because PS gamers are more likely to support these type of games, thats just history.
But because all of Insomniacs previous great games have been on Playstation, ergo most of Insomniacs FANS are on Playstation. Thats just commonsense.

Its a hard lesson that should have been obvious to anyone, and one that Square and Crystal Dynamics are about to learn as well.

Yetter3193d ago

Who cares about sales numbers, the games a ton of fun, what else matters?

Kribwalker3193d ago

Shenmu 2 sold terribly and lost millions, yet Shenmu 3 is being considered the 2nd coming by some, good sales does not a good game make

nucky643193d ago

wow! what a lightning rod post.....I really didn't care about the subject and just posted an off-handed response to the first post - and the response just keeps going.
I never thought it'd get this kind of attention.

4Sh0w3193d ago (Edited 3193d ago )

Dont know where you get your sales info but I'll go with a dev who said in the same breath its not coming to another platform AND praised the game sales....definitely doesnt sound like a guy displeased or trying to leave the door open for grabbing more sales on another platform. btw every game would sell more if it was on more platforms, so you either appreciate the fact both consoles get exclusives or you don't.

-I'd I'dthink ps4 owners would be more concerned with this:

"According to him a trilogy collection for the PS4 won’t happen due to the presence of PlayStation Now.
“Sony ultimately would make this call, but here is why I think it won’t ever happen. Time and money. PS3 ports already exist. PlayStation Now. I could be wrong, but I highly doubt they remaster a remaster,” he explained."

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xHeavYx3193d ago

Were people even asking for Sunset Overdrive on PS4?
Or is it just Gamingbolt doing their usual clickbait article.?

itsmebryan3193d ago

It really was a good game. It was very funny and fun to play. Sales doesn't always mean a good game.

Scatpants3193d ago

Sunset Overdrive is great If people didn't buy it they are all missing out.

hduce3193d ago

So sales now justify how good a game is?

Tdmd3193d ago

Yeah it's a shame. I don't care how it sold, it seems like a great game from a awesome developer and I surely would love to play it on my PS4. I don't really get what numbers have to do with it.

fulnattybrah3193d ago

Alot of games don't sell well, does that mean the game is bad? by your logic COD is the greatest game in history...

jcnba283193d ago

What do sales have to do with whether a game is good or not?

Gazondaily3193d ago

@Heavy

Were people even asking for Sunset Overdrive on PS4?

Yes. Hence the petitions:

http://www.destructoid.com/...

EvilWay3193d ago

Well the Xbox one was doing poorly when it was released and is doing a lot better now. I am sure it has sold well with the sales

343_Guilty_Spark3193d ago

Too bad what you heard doesn't count as proof.

ChronoJoe3193d ago

Seeing as it's pretty easy to port games from XBOX ONE to PS4 it wouldn't have been a bad thing to push it over, the game is made and porting is a lot cheaper than initial development so they may have been able to justify the costs even if they weren't expecting the game to fly off of the shelves.

I would expect the game to sell a lot better on PS4 though, because that's where Insomniac's fanbase reside. I suspect this decision is probably driven by some form of exclusivity deal rather than it not being worthwhile to port to the Playstation 4 or other platforms.

In either case, we still may see it in the future. The number of time we heard that games like Mass Effect would not be on 'any other platform' then they appear later down the line when the exclusivity period has passed.

4Sh0w3193d ago (Edited 3193d ago )

Wow, theres a lot of interest in timed exclusive and exclusive Xbox One games.

It's comical how entitled and hypocritical some ps fans sound, pretty much like this:

"Why is ROTR exclusive for a year?"

Answer -Because Micorosoft secured a deal to support the game & SE/CD liked it.

"Hey they can't do that, oh btw Capcom thanks for SF5 exclusive deal, oh bu, bu, screw SE, hope the game fails for stabbing us in the back.

Answer -You know the game is comin...//

"Shut up!, nobody cares Lara's face will look like old pixels by then, TR is trash compared to UC4 anyway."
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"Why won't Insomniac port SO to ps4, it didn't sell well?"

Answer -Microsoft supported the game, that was the deal and actually they said it sold pretty well.

"Well I hate Microsoft getting 3rd party deals, they should make their own games, bu, bu, bu, Bloodborne is OK for Sony."

Answer -I don't see Xbox fans screaming about how unfair Bloodborne deal was, claiming it should come to X1 and it didn't exactly light up NPD sales charts, falling off pretty quickly, haven't seen any big #s released by Sony, so why does it seem exclusives are OK for Sony but not..///

"Shut up!...Even if it didn't sell a ton, selling it on Xbox One to make more money would be an absolutely terrible idea, money isn't the most important thing, devs don't sign contracts with Sony, they just write each other love letters, seal it with a kiss and its official."

-Seriously all the complaining about Microsoft deals are just getting old, fanboys do their best to make sonys deals seem different but in the end the result is the same, sony moneyhats games to keep them off xbox too, its a age old business practice, >>Why are we suddenly freaked out by it now???<< Microsoft just has the deep pockets to do it more than other platform manufacturers did in the past vs sony.

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Crimzon3194d ago

I've been hoping that the game would come to PC if a PS4 release wasn't going to happen, but it seems that even a PC port is unlikely now which is really frustrating. The game looks awesome fun and I've yet to see a bad thing said about it, so I'd have been all over a PS4 or PC release. Hopefully they make a sequel and it's multiplatform, although I'm probably just gonna buckle and buy an Xbox soon anyways.

Genuine-User3194d ago

Neither confirmation or denial. Usual PR talk.

lvl_headed_gmr3193d ago

Did you read the quote?

Insomniac said they won't be putting SO on any other platforms.

Genuine-User3193d ago (Edited 3193d ago )

Maybe you should read the quote again.

"We have no plans to release Sunset Overdrive on any other platform. We also don't discuss contracts"

Does that quote shout permanent exclusivity to you?

'Plans' can change.

Ezz20133193d ago (Edited 3193d ago )

@lvl_headed_gmr

"We have no plans to release Sunset Overdrive on any other platform. We also don't discuss contracts"

That's not the same as saying ..."We will never release it on Ps4/Pc"

Sound like PR to me.

spacedelete3194d ago (Edited 3194d ago )

Insomniac - "no we have no desire to release our game to 25 million PS4 owners". whatever they will regret it if R&C doesn't sell the studio risks layoffs or even closure.

also i don't see why Ratchet and Clank trilogy can't get a PS4 remaster. just look at Final Fantasy X/X2 which got remastered twice. no one cares about PS Now so if Sony actually wants to make money they will have to remaster it again.

donthate3194d ago

I think you got it all wrong!

Sony is the one funding R&C, so Insomniac just collects their paycheck and jumps onto the next project. Thus Sony is the one doing the layoffs when their financials continue to look bad.

GamerGT3193d ago

I care about PS Now. Was just playing Ratchet and Clank all for one last night with the wife. No complaints. Can't wait to see more titles added to it.

pivotplease3193d ago

I for one am excited about the reboot. It looks like one of the best games they've made since Tools of Destruction. When did things go down hill? All 4 One? Too many spinoffs.

AstroCyborg3193d ago

why would they create a new ip to just have sony steal it from them again http://www.ign.com/articles...

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KonaSquid3193d ago (Edited 3193d ago )

Guess they don't like money .-.

Spenok3193d ago

Didn't Microsoft help fund this game, thus making it pretty much guaranteed to always be an Xbone exclusive?

PhucSeeker3193d ago

They can make a PC ver if they want . Windows is M$'s main platform after all.

warczar3193d ago

I know insomniac was allowed to retain the ip rights. If Microsoft funded the game as well as gave insomniac the rights to the ip then Microsoft deserves a pat on the back.

_-EDMIX-_3193d ago

....so they say. The deal is likely not done yet and they can't speak about another version yet.

medman3193d ago

Were the masses even asking for Sunset Overdrive? That game underperformed on the xbox 1...Insomniac's mistake was taking the money and they got bit by it. That game is long forgotten.

AstroCyborg3193d ago

it wasn't insomiacs fault sony wanted to steal yet another insomiac created i,p blame sony not insomiac & ms

warczar3193d ago

@astro

The whole idea behind intellectual properties is so that corporations can steal there employees ideas. You don't honestly believe that Microsoft has never stolen another persons idea do you? And I read the article you posted above, nowhere does it say anything about ip theft only that owning the ip was a deal breaker for insomniac.

Bobby Kotex3193d ago

Sunset Overdrive wasn't bad, but buying it twice makes zero sense.

Professor_K3193d ago

Fantastic game with killer soundtrack and atmosphere.

Cant wait for the sequel

Also what happened to the ps4 version? i thought it would come out 9 months prior to xbox launch according to all the analyst here LOL.

kraenk123193d ago

The game was targeted at American teenagers anyway so it makes sense to only release it on XBox One.

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gangsta_red3194d ago

Sunset Overdrive was a great game. Hopefully they make a sequel and it stays on Xbox One.

mkis0073194d ago

Well Insomniac owns the IP, they can do with it what they want. I love the game; it is the only physical xbox 1 game I own. (the rest are all digital until rare collecton) It would have sold like gangbusters to the PlayStation crowd though. They should have made it multi to get the ip off the ground! Taken out a loan or something.

gangsta_red3194d ago

How do you know it would have done gangbusters for the Playstation crowd? The IP is already off the ground and I know a lot of XBO gamers who are still enjoying this game.

pivotplease3193d ago (Edited 3193d ago )

Looks at Ratchet and Clank and Infamous fan bases on Playstation. Looks at nearly twice the install base.

I think gangbusters was a pretty appropriate term. PlayStation is about appealing to fans of a wide variety of genres and quirky games all around. While I didn't like what I saw when friend was playing it, I think it would have impressed quite a few in the PS crowd.

mkis0073193d ago

I am still enjoying it too. I just feel like the ip could have been a lot bigger (what they wanted fuse to be) if they had just found a way to publish it themselves.

DigitalRaptor3193d ago (Edited 3193d ago )

"I think gangbusters was a pretty appropriate term. PlayStation is about appealing to fans of a wide variety of genres and quirky games all around."

Pretty much nailed it. This IP could have been the potential to be Ratchet or inFamous levels of big. PlayStation gamers have proven their love for games like this in the past and PS4 has double the install base. Instead though, it's been relegated to Jet Set Radio status - whilst a great, stylish, memorable game, it risks not getting a sequel due to sales performance.
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@ Gangsta

The IP is already off the ground in the same way that something like Shenmue was at the time. Your theory doesn't guarantee continued success or a sequel, as much as I'm sure lots of people would love to see one. The game was well produced, has that mass market appeal and was marketed as such, but after 8 months has failed to sell a million units, on one of the biggest gaming brand platforms across the globe.

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MasterCornholio3194d ago (Edited 3194d ago )

I don't see why it cant be multiplatform. Since Insomniac owns the IP they can bring it to any platform that they want.

@Mkis

Agreed if the title was multiplatform it would have done much better.

gangsta_red3194d ago

I don't see why it should. Since it appeared on Xbox first it should stay. We wouldn't want SO fans feeling betrayed and Insomniac turning their backs on their biggest fanbase.

"Agreed if the title was multiplatform it would have done much better."

Who says? If it didn't do as well as some pretend it didn't then wouldn't it have gone on other platforms sooner?

FlexLuger3194d ago

"I don't see why it cant be multiplatform. Since Insomniac owns the IP they can bring it to any platform that they want."

But MS Did help fund development aswell as publishing/marketing. Its no different from SF5.

http://www.escapistmagazine...

The key difference is capcom cant release an xbox version because they are bound by contract.Insomniac at least chose of their own accord..so which type of deal REALLY sets the bad precedent here, for gamers? At least sony fans only need wait a year for TR. If MS buy a bunch of 3rd party IPs or the company that owns them outright, it will be interesting to see how the conversation goes. But then I guess sony will buy some other ones too, and thus it continues.

ziggurcat3193d ago

@gangsta:

um... insomniac has been predominantly developing for sony, so the biggest fanbase for insomniac is still with sony.

@flex:

since insomniac owns the IP, they are actually free to release the game wherever they feel like... exactly like despite MS publishing RoTR on xbox, the game is still being released on other platforms... because SE *owns* the IP. I doubt SSoD will make its way to PS4, but there's always the distinct possibility that the sequel (if it does get made) could end up on multiple platforms.

but really... how many times have we all seen the "we have no plans to do X" thing only to find out that X thing ends up happening anyway?

AstroCyborg3193d ago

because if they did sony would just & try to steal it away from them

pivotplease3193d ago

Biggest franchise? It's a new IP with one game so far? And Ratchet games have sold better in the past (and even reviewed better as well). I would also argue thaT Resistance is a bigger deal though SO has potential for the future.

DigitalRaptor3193d ago

Gangsta. You just failed at trying to take a jab at PlayStation fans.

Your comparison might have had some validity, if Sunset Overdrive had been instrumental in launching Insomniac's biggest fanbase. Insomniac has an unmatched history with PlayStation, something of which you could call a legacy. The day Sunset Overdrive is considered a legacy to Xbox I will apologise to you. Until then.. keep trying to pre-meditate absolute nonsense.
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"Who says? If it didn't do as well as some pretend it didn't then wouldn't it have gone on other platforms sooner?"

Stop trying to distract from common sense. The game would have resonated with PlayStation and PC gamers as much as or more as it has with Xbox gamers. It very clearly would have sold the same again on each new platform it was announced for. So that would take it up to around 3 million across 3 platforms.

For all we know, internal discussions might have lead to multiplatform ports. MS has no ties to SO and Insomniac owns the IP. And as I'm sure you can work out, it takes more than 8 months to strategically discuss, green-light, produce, develop, announce and release ports of already released games. Lots of details to discuss. The fact your logic is hinging on Insomniac announcing ports they very well might not be ready to announce yet, is telling. Your logic also insinuates that Rise of the Tomb Raider was going to perform poorly on Xbox so they announced other platforms BEFORE the game even came out, which is unprecedented. Be careful with that.

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Genuine-User3194d ago (Edited 3194d ago )

Why do you hope for it to stay on Xbox? It's neither created or owned by Microsoft. I really enjoyed the game, and I hope more people get to enjoy it too.

Christopher3194d ago

lol

***stays on Xbox***

Spoken like a true gamer there. There is no benefit to maintaining a minimal market reach for a third-party developer unless they are being "funded" for said limitation.

***Since it appeared on Xbox first it should stay. We wouldn't want SO fans feeling betrayed and Insomniac turning their backs on their biggest fanbase. ***

How would putting it out on various platforms, in addition to XBO, be seen as turning their back on their "biggest" fanbase? I mean, it's not like Insomniac doesn't have a massive fanbase on the PS4 already, but even then, they would only be growing their fanbase with it available to a much wider audience on PC and/or PS4. More fans, more money to continue making games. And it's not like anyone is asking them to _not_ put it on XBO.

gangsta_red3194d ago (Edited 3194d ago )

Interesting...but TR being on XBO first is Square turning their backs on their fanbase am I right? I mean you even said in another comment that Square made you feel "less important". Maybe that's how XBO fans would feel if this franchise went on to another platform, less important.

Isn't funny how whenever a so called Sony franchise makes it way to another system (FF, Metal Gear, etc) you get a boatload of people quick to call out the developer of taking money from MS, turning their backs on their "BIGGIST" fanbase, the game will be gimped, or the dev is catering to a western audience and it should stay on the PS brand. No questions asked, no arguments made.

But have someone say that a MS brand that started on Xbox should stay on Xbox and we have people quick to pounce on you and question your true gamer status and state how there's no benefit keeping a third party game on one system.

But hey, maybe MS can "FUND" the sequel and then that will make the pill easier to swallow when kept out of the hands of all gamers.

MasterCornholio3194d ago (Edited 3194d ago )

"More fans, more money to continue making games. And it's not like anyone is asking them to _not_ put it on XBO."

As someone who grew up with their games I would love it if they brought it to everybody. Not only does it mean extra income like you said but they can bring joy to tons of other people.

Only idiots would see that as a betrayal. A betrayal would be if Insomniac decides to produce the sequel as an exclusive on some other system.

Christopher3193d ago (Edited 3193d ago )

***Interesting...but TR being on XBO first is Square turning their backs on their fanbase am I right?***

And in what world did anyone ask Sunset Overdrive 2 to go first to PS4? What the hell does any of that have to do with not releasing Sunset Overdrive on other platforms at all?

***I mean you even said in another comment that Square made you feel "less important". Maybe that's how XBO fans would feel if this franchise went on to another platform, less important.***

Less important because they took away an established IP to give it to other gamers first. Yes.

What the hell does that have anything to do with Sunset Overdrive possibly expanding to other platforms? XBO already had it first. What's the issue here?

***you get a boatload of people quick to call out the developer of taking money from MS, turning their backs on their "BIGGIST" fanbase,***

And those people are acting just as fanboyish as you are now.

I personally prefer more third-party IPs on more platforms. Even if it comes with some ridiculous timed exclusivity deals.

http://n4g.com/news/509614/...

***But hey, maybe MS can "FUND" the sequel and then that will make the pill easier to swallow when kept out of the hands of all gamers.***

I'll leave it up to MS and Insomniac on how they want to fund it, but my opinion is that it should go everywhere it can. I still want to play the first one and likely won't for a while until I see more reasons to own an XBO. But, to say "it should stay with XBO" is just as petty as anyone who would say FF, MGS, or other IPs should "stay with PS4".

So, enjoy having a fanboy mindset there.

gangsta_red3193d ago

"What the hell does that have anything to do with Sunset Overdrive possibly expanding to other platforms?"

Has everything to do with the exact same excuses I read from you and others when a supposed 3rd party franchise that has been associated with a platform goes to another system either timed or not.

The excuses of "betrayal", "less important" or "money hatting" always gets dropped.

"And those people are acting just as fanboyish as you are now."

And yet they get no where near the level of annoyance you are displaying whenever a supposed Xbox fanboy wants an Xbox game to stay on Xbox. No where near the specific comment directed at a person but more broad directed and ambiguous.

I mean seriously, we have had multiple comments here based on no proof and all speculative of people claiming "the game didn't sell well", "the game would have done much better on PS4', "PS gamers would love this game more" and all sorts of such related comments. But my comment is the one you choose to bee line for and call out.

It just shows how passive and accepting a lot of people are on this site to accept one side of ridiculousness but not put up with another.

Why wouldn't an Xbox gamer want this game to stay on Xbox even if it was for fanboyish reasons? It goes multiplatform and we have people rushing in those articles claiming MS has no real exclusives and then I wonder if we would have you and others as annoyed with those types of comments as you are with mine?

More than likely not. I mean we have already seen proof of that.

As I said in another post, it all seems to boil down to gamer entitlement. Gamers don't seem to care or get as angry when games/content come to their preferred system first and others later or not at all. But lord forbid a 3rd party title/content be kept off your system of choice for whatever reason.

Watch out when that happens.

Christopher3193d ago (Edited 3193d ago )

I think you're losing it, gangsta_red.

***Has everything to do with the exact same excuses I read from you and others when a supposed 3rd party franchise that has been associated with a platform goes to another system either timed or not.***

You're mixing an IP that was established on all platforms being limited by timed release on multiple platforms but just one compared to a completely new IP that people would just want to see either expanded to a new platform or see the sequel to go to multiple platforms. No one here has said anything about just taking it away from anyone through permanent or timed releases at all. Two completely different topics.

***And yet they get no where near the level of annoyance you are displaying whenever a supposed Xbox fanboy wants an Xbox game to stay on Xbox. ***

Who said anyone wants an Xbox game to not stay on Xbox? The Tomb Raider is wanting the game to be released on all platforms at the same time. I've never said anything about taking games away from Xbox users. Never.

WTH are you on about?

***It just shows how passive and accepting a lot of people are on this site to accept one side of ridiculousness but not put up with another. ***

You are comment #2... I didn't really have to look for your comment at all here. And your comment is just ridiculous, to say the least. The follow-ups even more ridiculous.

***Why wouldn't an Xbox gamer want this game to stay on Xbox even if it was for fanboyish reasons?***

No one wants to take it away from Xbox... Who said anything about it not being on Xbox One? People just want to play it on other platforms (PC or PS4).

*** It goes multiplatform and we have people rushing in those articles claiming MS has no real exclusives***

As opposed to Xbox fanboys rushing PS4 articles saying Sony doesn't have any real games, just cinematic experiences. Or how about the lovely "no 60fps" stuff? Or how about "greatness keeps waiting"?

I see tons of stuff from everyone all day long. It's my job. Let's not act like there's only one side of this that says stupid stuff or waits for certain posts to troll in.

That's stupid fanboy stuff. You're dragging yourself down to that level now. Don't do that.

***Gamers don't seem to care or get as angry when games/content come to their preferred system first and others later or not at all.***

You're letting your perception decide your own bias. I would be careful with doing that.

http://n4g.com/user/blogpos...

Comment #6. Notice the last issue I mention on both the PS4 and the XBO. That is what I think. That is how I think. You are letting what you see in specific submissions determine everything without seeing the forest, just a few trees.

You start doing that, you go right into the same path as most fanboys.

gangsta_red3193d ago (Edited 3193d ago )

“Two completely different topics.”

I don’t think there different topics at all. Both topics have the same results in the end. I think one scenario is just more accepted than the other and definitely more argued than any topic on here.

“Who said anyone wants an Xbox game to not stay on Xbox?”

But who wants it to go to another platform? For what reason? To you and many others TR could appear only on PS4 and that would be acceptable but a new franchise that started on XBO can go multiplat? The irony is hilarious with that.

I see no reason why this game, that has first appeared on XBO, has to go multiplatform. No where has Insomiac said the game failed, there are no facts to suggest it would have done better if on the PS4 and once again the excuse of the biggest fanbase holds no weight.

And reading the current comments I have to laugh on how many times I see people saying that it’s Insomniac’s IP and they can do whatever they want with it…and yet…with Square you don’t get the same thought out compassionate remarks regarding their IP.

“The follow-ups even more ridiculous.”

Of course, but I guess you missed the comments under my own that said SO failed, it would have been better on PS4, it would have sold gangbusters on PS4. You must have just strolled passed those remarks just to debate mine.

“No one wants to take it away from Xbox..”

And I am not saying it would, I am saying it should STAY on Xbox. Just like how some said FF, MGS should have stayed on PS. The fact that so many have a problem with that just goes to show the level of bias some have of not wanting a game to stay on Xbox.

“I see tons of stuff from everyone all day long. It's my job. Let's not act like there's only one side of this that says stupid stuff or waits for certain posts to troll in.”

Oh, you mean like paying to pay online is now okay, Indie games are now accepted, it’s cool to pay for timed DLC exclusive content. Let’s see how many times we see you rushing in to call those comments out, to call their comments ridiculous and say it’s nothing but fanboyism or whatever. I understand it’s impossible to call out everyone but let’s not be too choosy with who we decide to call ridiculous in an ocean filled with such.

“You're letting your perception decide your own bias. I would be careful with doing that. “

How, when it’s true? You’re an Xbox owner and you don’t care that TR is coming to your system first. But if you are a PS4 owner, it’s an outrage, Square turned their backs on us. If you are a PS4 owner, the SFV deal is awesome, you have an Xbox and it’s a slap in the face, Capcom doesn’t care about our fighting community, yada yada yada.
It’s not a perception it’s the truth about the gaming community particularly on this site.

I say the game should stay on XBO no different than what others have said for FF and MGS. How interesting this community can be when supporting a certain brand, just look at the ones who responded negatively towards my statement. Please tell me if those who responded harshly aren’t known to prefer Playstation.

If the game goes somewhere else, right on. I won’t care either way but let’s not jump on someone for wanting a franchise to stay on the console it started on just like how a lot felt with FF,TR and MGS.

Christopher3193d ago (Edited 3193d ago )

***But who wants it to go to another platform? For what reason?***

To reach more gamers.

***You must have just strolled passed those remarks just to debate mine. ***

I ignore stupid comments because those people aren't worth responding to. I also don't see every single comment since things get added over time, but tend to keep up a conversation I've been involved in.

Having said that...

*** To you and many others TR could appear only on PS4 and that would be acceptable but a new franchise that started on XBO can go multiplat? The irony is hilarious with that. ***

I'm going to stop here. I have never said any such thing. There is no point in continuing this discussion when you make up stuff like this. You are quickly falling into the category of people I ignore because there's just no point in debating with you.

nix3193d ago

guys.. this is how people with many bubbles waste their bubbles..

gangsta_red3193d ago (Edited 3193d ago )

"To reach more gamers.'

What's the point of exclusives then?

@Nix
I agree

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MasterCornholio3194d ago (Edited 3194d ago )

"We wouldn't want SO fans feeling betrayed and Insomniac turning their backs on their biggest fanbase. "

You know nothing of betrayal.

:I

I started playing Insomniac games ever since they produced Spyro the Dragon. After that I played Ratchett and Clank which was made by them. Most of their fanbase is on PlayStation and you know it. If anything PlayStation fans have more right to feel betrayed than Xbox fans do.

Besides if SO became a multiplatform game that would stop you from playing it. Here you are demanding that Insomniac ignore their fans on PlayStation while I'm here wishing for them to sell more copys by going multiplatform.

Proof:

http://www.darkspyro.net/sp...

http://www.theisozone.com/i...

Not a fan of resistance but they made that as well.

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3...

gangsta_red3194d ago

"If anything PlayStation fans have more right to feel betrayed than Xbox fans do."

Of course they do...reading most of the comments on this site it would seem you guys always get the short end of the stick.

Like I said in other comments all I read is how Sony is the victim and their fans seem to deserve every thing including every 3rd party exclusive game on every competing console because supposedly either the "game will do so much better on PS3/4", "the game flopped" or "PS has that game's biggest fanbase".

How about you wish for them to sell more copies for their sequel on Xbox One?

Paytaa3193d ago (Edited 3193d ago )

Us Xbox gamers could say the exact same thing with Bungie.

DeadlyOreo3193d ago (Edited 3193d ago )

@Paytaa

Bungie made Destiny multiplatform though. Your point isn't quite valid.

snoopgg3193d ago

Being a big fan of Resistance, I would like a new Resistance game before this game anyday. Xbox can keep this exclusive.

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_-EDMIX-_3193d ago

Gangsta Red-"I don't see why it should"

....huge shock everyone, Gangster Red on an XONE "exclusive" from a game where MS doesn't own the IP......and Red sees no reason why the IP owner should make money porting it else where.

I'm sorry but your logic simply fails to convey exactly the title should continue to get less appeal because it was on XB first...

Thats not how it works bud, how many IPs where on XB first?

Yet....they BETTER going to many platforms vs just staying on 1. I don't think you can really offer a real business reason why it should stay on one platform as it just makes zero sense bud, not even a little.

I'm sure the PC and PS4 versions will cover the transfer or porting of it from XONE to PC, PS4 etc. If they want to self publish and hope to make money in the future as a series on 3 platforms, they sorta need to do this.

Bioshock was um.. "first" on XB, Mass Effect 1 for a few months was um "first" on XB, Splinter Cell if anyone remembers was "first" on XB.

The reality is.....those 3 series are multiplatform games, I don't see them doing well in a future where they just never ported any titles over and just kept making them on 1 platform JUST BECAUSE.

Get your fanboy warz out of this for once and offer a real logical business reason why it should not be on many platforms vs classic G-Red response. ie

" We wouldn't want SO fans feeling betrayed and Insomniac"

Betrayed? Yet Ratchet fans are THRILLED about the remake! You hear anything regarding PS fans feeling um "betrayed" because they are making a XB exclusive?

Please...get your fanboy logic out of it, its business. They are not taking SO AWAY from XONE, its merely appearing else where, why is a game appearing else where hurting you?

This goes back to the same BS regarding timed games, as if the game not appearing on another platform is wanted even MORE then a new title....

The fact of the matter is, if it was multiplatform, by DEFAULT it would have done better, that is just a matter of FACT! 3 platforms vs 1. You can't be this much of a fanboy to not understand what that actually means, for a second just transition into business mode and really plead your case, stating "fans will feel betrayed" doesn't really help your case.

So...you would't buy SO2 if SO1 and SO2 appeared on PS4 and PC? As you would feel um..."betrayed"?

Soooooo what your telling me is it NOT appearing on PC or PS some how makes you feel better and that is some how more important then gaming itself?

WOW, I thought I legit heard it all.....

Ezz20133193d ago

""Since it appeared on Xbox first it should stay""

WOW,i'm shocked that you of all people would say something like that.
/s

Insomniac owns the IP not Microsoft...they will do what ever they want with it.

Professor_K3193d ago (Edited 3193d ago )

I too hope it never comes to the ps4 :)

there is no reason for me to care about that console

xbox is where the games are AT!

gangsta_red3193d ago

I wonder what would happen if I went into every SFV or No Man's Sky article and wrote down that I hope the game fails, or "____" company turned their backs on us, how much slack and insults I would receive for just that?

Because lord knows i comment on wanting an Xbox game to stay on Xbox and I get so much shade thrown my way it's hilarious.

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Xavior_Reigns3194d ago

Huh what was the point of wanting to own the IP then? Sounds to me like lost cash but hey whatever. Guess I'll play it on XBO eventually.

RiseofScorpio3193d ago

So they can make a sequel with someone else in case MS decides not to?

kneon3193d ago

It's only lost cash if they think it will sell enough to cover development costs, and that's not guaranteed.

If they are planning SO2 then it could make sense to port it and release 3-6 months before SO2 launches. By then there would easily be 40m+ PS4's so there would be a big enough install base to sell into.

Christopher3193d ago

You own an IP so you can determine its direction and not a publisher who owns it.

_-EDMIX-_3193d ago

They likely can't talk about a PC or PS4 version as of yet. Developers are not going to be fully transparent regarding such deals as the often are not.

@Christoper- "You own an IP so you can determine its direction and not a publisher who owns it"

Yes they very much can, that was a choice to choose MS as Insomniac owns the IP and choose them. They are free to publish the game else where as I heard nothing of MS owning the IP...

The IP is the game.

So Insomniac can self publish on PS4 or PC, they can even ironically get Sony to publish it on PS (though unlikely) etc

RiseofScorpio3193d ago (Edited 3193d ago )

This is no Tomb Raider styled timed exclusive, Microsoft fully funded the production of this game, its 100% likely a PS4 version is out of luck in the contract, PC is a possibility but insomniac has zero history on PC. This is regarging SSOD 1.

Now the sequel is another story, if MS doesn't continue to fund this franchise, Insonniac can take it somewhere else making in fully multiplat.

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FrostedFire3194d ago

I was actually planning on picking up the trilogy for the PS3 but if they release it on the PS4 with updated textures and frame rater I would be the happiest m!$#%^F@&*~+ alive.

Picnic3194d ago (Edited 3194d ago )

In the extremely unlikely event that mega richMicrosoft didnt provide enough funding and love to make Insomniac wish to keep such a distinct Infamous custom made game exclusive , it would almost certainly be 1080p but still 30fps. Dont hold your breath. Jet Set Radio Future is Xbox exclusive to this day and this game will be seen as the popular series that deserved to be. Insomniac have been open about the excitement of Microsoft for the project. You dont need extra shaders when its this colourful in visuals and customisation. If this had been PS4 exclusive it would have been less colourful. There might not have been Sunset TV or as much wacky customistion.

_-EDMIX-_3193d ago

" Jet Set Radio Future is Xbox exclusive to this day"

....thats because it didn't make a lot of money, thats also because Sega didn't have the funds then to just do a bunch of ports, its no different then Yakuza series, its not PS exclusive...Sony didn't just pay them money to not bring it on XB or Wii, Sega doesn't have the money to bring it on all systems as they don't even have the money to bring ALL Yakuza titles to the west.

I'm sorry but I think your confusing a game staying on a system due to a publisher, developers etc low fund with a game being paid to be on that platform for a certain period of time.

MS doesn't own Sega, the Jet Set IP etc, Sony doesn't own Sega nor the Yakuza IP....

Sooooo please stop making it sound as if ALL games that don't go multiplatform have something to do with Sony, MS, Nintendo etc.

MOST publishers don't' have the funding to just bring a title EVERYWHERE.

". If this had been PS4 exclusive it would have been less colourful"

I have no clue what that even means lol, coming from a company like MS that makes Gears and Halo back to back, Sony started out making those "colourful" games and they still do, ie Ratchet, Dreams, Knack etc.

That is very much a staple thing from them, so I'm not sure why they would have them change something as Sony seems to have the most open studios in terms of allowing creative freedom....I mean look at Dreams for gods sake, I'm not even sure WHAT that is, the last company I feel one should be claiming some sort of lack of creative control.

Mind you, Sony is simply the publisher, I very much doubt SO would be much different under them as they allow quite a lot, I would not see them interfering with their game as they produce the most new IPs by their main teams out of the big 3 BY FAR.

Picnic3193d ago

"If this had been PS4 exclusive it would have been less colourful"

To clarify as I realise that you might think that's an odd thing to say about the company that has had Ratchet and Clank and the relatively colourful (for a shooter) series Uncharted - those games tend to veer towards 'filmic'. Colours are not generally made hyperactive retina hurting bright.

By comparison, when a colourful game comes on to a Microsoft console such as Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and bolts, or, back in the day, Blinx, it is often hyperactive in its visuals. That is why
Sunset Overdrive was a great fit for the Xbox One. Microsoft aren't afraid of pure fun. Sony always have to bring a bit of seriousness in somewhere.

showtimefolks3194d ago

I hope that changes in this future insomniac, I don't have a Xbox one and I know many of your long time Playstation fans would love to play this amazing title

but it's your IP so you will decide what best business wise. but as your fan I hated the fact that Sony didn't let you keep the IP other wise this would have come to ps4 too.

I wish more publishers allow developers to own their work

that's why bungie left ms
that's why insomniac chose ms as the publisher

say what you will but one thing EA did right was their EA partners program, where they published and marketed the game but the developer got to keep the ip

Titanfall
fuse

and some others game were under this program

Crimzon3194d ago

I agree, Sony really screwed up by letting this game slip through their fingers. It could have been a PS4 exclusive if they weren't so greedy and stubborn about owning the IP, but instead it slipped through their fingers and Microsoft got the game instead. Sony needed this game more than Microsoft as well, whoever said no to Insomniac shouldn't be in charge of making these kinda deals.

NeverHeavyMan3194d ago (Edited 3194d ago )

You can't call it a Sony screw up when you don't know how the deal went down.

OT: Not that I'm too concerned, as I'll get it on the X1 when I'd like to play it.

@ showtimefolks: What rumor is there to go off of that would explain a "Sony screw up"? Insomniac wanted to own their own IP. They moved on and did just that. How did Sony mess up in that? They're an Independent company. Always have been.

showtimefolks3194d ago (Edited 3194d ago )

yes no doubt but I am kind of glad too because insomniac got their edge back. they were kind of become stale with ratchet all 4 one and fuse. so sunset overdrive was amazing

since insomniac owns the ip I hope the future entry in the series would come out to ps4,Xbox one and pc. and I hope really really hope that one day it does come to ps4

I also hope Sony learns from this too. I believe moving forward a lot of developers who are independent will want to keep the ip. look at how konami are treating kojima, I think it's a safe assumption that kojima will own his next ip

I also hope that insomniac does another resistance and bring back the 8 player Co op

neverheavy

true we will never know what really happened. so all we are doing is taking guesses or going off the rumors

either way insomniac are awesome and I am glad that the new ratchet is looking so great plus they are writing the story for ratchet movie and I can't wait to watch it

Crimzon3194d ago

I remember seeing something where Ted Price was pretty open about the fact they approached Sony first but they refused unless they got to own the IP, so then they went to Microsoft instead who were more cooperative. It's the same thing with the team who made Titanfall saying they went to Sony first as well, but in their case they were just refused dev kits so had to pass on a PS4 release as well.

So yeah, we have a pretty good idea of how the deals went down when the developers themselves are open and clear about why they had to pass on PS4 releases for their games. I'd have liked those games on PS4, instead I had to go with PC for one of them (Titanfall) and will have to buy an Xbox for the other (Sunset Overdrive). It's frustrating that Sony passed on those games when they could have easily had them.

_-EDMIX-_3193d ago

@Crimzon- not really bud. " Sony really screwed up by letting this game slip"

It was never theirs to let "slip", all they would be paying for would be a timed game, why should sony fund a timed game?

Sony does't need this "more then MS" as Sony owns the most first party studios.....

They are selling the most too sooooo not sure where you got that from.

" Sony passed on those games when they could have easily had them"

Again..."had them" MS doesn't own the Titan Fall IP and they don't own the Sun Set IP.....

Sooooooooo MS doesn't even have "them" so I'm not sure what you mean by this.

Sony is not in the business of "first" they are in the business of "only", they passed up those deals because Titan Fall 2 is coming to PS4 anyway, thus....it made no difference to Sony.

They spent money on Bloodborne, The Order, Everyone Gone To The Rapture which they now own the IP to and Horizon Zero Dawn to name a few.

Why waste money on a timed game? Why waste money on an IP that won't even get PS4's sold FOR LIFE? Why spend money on a title that you don't own that can end up else where later on?

Sony is again about making IPs that sell PS systems for LIFE, they are not about IPs that just get sales this year, or just get sales for 6 months etc.

If they can't own it, they won't publish it, that didn't help them during the PS1 era and now its helping them now.

The Last Of Us got 7 million sales last gen on PS3 due to there was ZERO chance of it appearing anywhere else, period. Why? they don't have a history of publishing timed games or IPs they don't own.

MS does, as to why every time the publish a game they don't own the IP to, many, many fans already are questionable of it being um.."exclusive"

Dead Rising 3, Ryse, Ninja Gaiden II, Mass Effect, Tomb Raider and now Sun Set....soooooo sounds like MS first party is quite questionable, unlike Sony or Nintendo. They only do exclusive deals if you want them to publish.

You don't question if InFamous Second Son will appear on XONE or PC lol Doesn't happen.

Sun Set Overdrive? All I need to know...is MS publishing? Yup...

Do they own the IP? What? No...they don't? Oh well its likely timed lol, I'm sorry but its happened too many times to really just say it won't. They've lost a lot of credibility with their publishing, Sony is not looking to be in the same boat.

_-EDMIX-_3193d ago

and fyi

You can't make life long fans of a system by tricking them into buying for false reasons ie timed games.

Sooner or later when those series become multiplatform, those fans will just leave.

Look at Wii U after Wii, look at XONE after 360 lol.

Its best to spend that money making life long fans by paying to keep the IP or ONLY exclusively publishing titles that stay on XB by making the deal an IP owned deal.

Had MS made that deal with Bioware, EA would not have been able to buy the Mass Effect IP and I assure you that 360 would have sold more with that IP exclusive and XONE would have 1 more title to really, really push it over the top as the must own.

EA bought the Mass Effect IP from BIOWARE, NOT MS...at the time MS classically didn't own the IP, they where just publishing.

Still think its a good idea to just publish something you don't own?

Crimzon3193d ago

When I said that Microsoft had them I was speaking plain English. The games are on Xbox, they are not on PlayStation. The whole point is that they could have been on PlayStation because the developers approached Sony, who made foolish decisions and passed up on good games because of greed. I mean gee, you mention games like The Order which Sony apparently own the IP for, but who got the better deal there? I'd much rather have Titanfall and Sunset Overdrive.

Also, you mention games on Xbox that aren't really exclusive because they appear elsewhere and praise Sony for not doing the same thing but there's supposed PS4 exclusives that are exactly the same? No Man's Sky is coming to PC, Street Fighter V is coming to PC, so on and so forth...

I just wish Sony hadn't passed up the opportunity to have Sunset Overdrive and Titanfall is all, and it seems you've gone and contradicted yourself in your efforts to mindlessly defend Sony at all costs. Seems silly to me. Don't you want great games on your PS4? I know I do.

_-EDMIX-_3193d ago

"When I said that Microsoft had them I was speaking plain English. The games are on Xbox, they are not on PlayStation"

That doesn't mean MS had them, that merely means they are only on XB, that is like saying Sony has Yakuza....Sony doesn't own the IP, it merely only appears on PS systems and many times not even in the west. It has nothing to do with Sony as much as it has to do with the PS console doing better then XB in Japan as even those titles in Japan don't even come to the west many times.

Thus....its not Sony's, they don't own it, it just happens by default to be only on PS, mainly in Japan.

It reasons don't have to do with Sony as much as it has to do with the consoles performance in the east, if MS system did great in the east, you would likely see those games on XB platforms too.

As to why you don't even see FF's on 360's in Japan even though you see them release on 360 in the west.

Its not all about money hats and MS or Sony paying something, consider those publishers still need to make money on the platform from either east or west.

Also...MS doesn't have Titan Fall as its on PC, its not owned by MS, I question what you mean by they "had" or "have" etc.

When did they buy them?

"The Order which Sony apparently own the IP for, but who got the better deal there? I'd much rather have Titanfall and Sunset Overdrive"

To Sony it doesn't really factor, they own the Order IP, many of its sequels can go on to do great things for Sony, Sony was never buying the Titan Fall IP....Sony was never getting the Sun Set IP as not even MS owns it....

Sooooooo its a set of timed games and The Order as a series or a set of timed games and no Order series at all.

Your basically saying that Titan Fall and Sun Set are better to have timed, then to have them at all along with a new IP.....

Titan Fall 2 is coming to all systems, Sun Set is owned by Insomniac and likely timed....The Order is going no where soooooo at the end of the day not only does Sony still get those gamse on their platforms when those developers feel like it, they still get The Order as a series....

I'm sorry but If I was Sony, I'd rather have money spent on an IP that will grow, then some timed games.

Is Titan Fall 2 not coming to PS4? Is The Order coming to XONE or PC though? I see.

Did MS buy the Sun Set IP? I see....yet your making it seem as if Sony got the short end? lol

MS just paid to delay some games of IPs they don't own...Sony paid to create a new series....

PS4 owners will get Titan Fall 2, The Order 2 and likely Sun Set Overdrive 1 and 2....

What will MS fans get for those timed games again? Oh yea because MS spent that money to delay...I see.

"I just wish Sony hadn't passed up the opportunity to have Sunset Overdrive and Titanfall"

Nope and Nope. Titan Fall's IP was not for sale, Sun Set's IP was not for sale, its why MS doesn't own em.

Thus Sony would just be paying to delay, I'd rather they pay for real exclusives, I'll get Titan Fall 2, Sun Set will very much get ported, you'll actually never play The Order's and Horizon Zero dawns series anywhere. If Sony doesn't own the IP in the deal, there is nothing to talk about, seek a deal else where, they have no reason to fund titles to delay on other systems, they fund titles they own.

Everyone Gone To The Rapture, look at who owns the IP and who is publishing. Now ask about a PC version bud, ask about a XONE version bud. Sony only publishes content they own.

freshslicepizza3193d ago (Edited 3193d ago )

@_-EDMIX-
"I'd rather they pay for real exclusives"

why? why does it matter at the end of the day if they end up going somewhere else?

"you'll actually never play The Order's and Horizon Zero dawns series anywhere"

you seem to be happy about this, that you are forced to buy a system to play those games. so again i ask why does it matter to you? i understand perfectly why it matters to sony but i'm asking you. how does any of those games poissibly being ported later on to another platform somehow diminish your enjoyment. your comments come across as childish, not enjoyment.

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JEECE3194d ago

Also I couldn't blame Insomniac if they were salty over Resistance 3. It was awesome, but instead PS3 players all bought Call of Duty: Whichever one came out that year.

showtimefolks3194d ago

jeece

right before resistance 3 Sony tried buying insomniac but insomniac wanted to stay independent and I don't blame any studio for wanting to stay independent

resistance 3 was awesome and old school too with having no regenerating health and how the game looked. but I hated the fact that for some reason insomniac removed the 8 player Co op

but still soy did absolutely no advertisement for it. Sadly people keep buying cod and assassin creed over new experiences. but than the same people talk about too many sequels and not enough new IP's

sunset overdrive is an amazing game but doesn't have the sales numbers to show for it. why more people didn't buy it is beyond me

_-EDMIX-_3193d ago

Why should Sony? It wasn't a good deal for either.

The reality is, Sony has it set up, if they publish your title, they own the IP, period. Thus..don't publish with them if you want to keep your title.

Sony is in the business of SELLING PS CONSOLES, their job is to make sure that actually happens, if Sony published this title and they brought it over to XB or PC, thus....its a HUGE reason to not buy a PS4 due to one of those reasons appearing else where....why should Sony fund something that does't actually help them in the long run and ruins their credibility with publishing titles?

When Horizon comes out, many might state "Well it could be timed, remember Sun Set"

Thus...Sony needs to maintain that imagine and trust, that when you a PS published title, its there for LIFE. Sony published means something.

MS published Mass Effect, Ninja Gaiden II, Tomb Raider etc and they went else where, thus....how much trust does one really have with a title published by MS?

Doesn't that mean you can just hold out and wait 6 months to a year to see if its actually timed? You don't need to do that with Sony as that doesn't happen with them.

Sony wants to keep the IP and only publishes IPs they own...

Insomniac wants to keep the IP.

Thus...it was a bad deal for both and makes sense that it didn't happen. Period.

Insomniac isn't bad for doing it, Sony isn't bad for doing it.

I list homes EXCLUSIVELY, my firm only list homes for 6 month exclusive deals, we do not do open listings (ie everyone list the property and who ever sells it gets the money) we don't do that.

Want your home listed through open listing.....go to a firm that is ok with open listing lol.

No one is forcing anyone to do anything, its up to them to choose what they want and what is best for them, just like we need to be sure what is best for us.

It wasn't best for the Sony publishing name to be under a game that's IP isn't owned by Sony.

Remember Spyro and Crash? Well Sony does and never wants a repeat of that again. There is a reason why many are questioning SO exclusivity and its due to MS's shady history with timed games....

You don't question Horizon Zero Dawn, you don't question Bloodborne as sony has its own history....a history of only publishing EXCLUSIVES. They don't need gamers questioning a purchase due to game releasing else where frequently that they put out.

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10 Years Later, Sunset Overdrive Still Remains A Beloved Xbox Exclusive

Does it still hold up in 2024?

We've still got a few months to go, but October marks the 10-year anniversary of this Insomniac Games title, with the developer having since moved on to work on the Marvel's Spider-Man games for PlayStation. It was assumed that Sunset Overdrive might make its way to other platforms eventually, but that hasn't happened as of yet.

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Christopher18d ago

So beloved that it sold so well that there's a sequel and Insomniac never had the opportunity to go back to Sony to develop games exclusively for Sony.

RaidenBlack18d ago

ngl, I was low-key expecting Sunset Overdrive to migrate to PS as well along with Hi-Fi Rush and SoT

Christopher18d ago

I think that would require Insomniac going back to work on it to port it over, probably why that's not happening.

RaidenBlack18d ago

Didn't Sony help with SoT port?

Christopher18d ago

I think only in so far as they support every piece of software heading their way? They have that team who specializes in helping people port games, not just SoT, and then the one team that takes PS5 games and ports them to PC (that's their full time job essentially). But that team, the former mentioned one, doesn't do all the work, just help out with how to best do things. So, that team wouldn't port a whole game like Sunset Overdrive.

RaidenBlack18d ago

Ok I thought you meant Insomniac reluctant/Sony not permitting them to go back and work on Overdrive. Hence I added the participation from Sony's side.
But yea, In actuality its Insomniac not having spare dev time to get involved in the port work, atm.

Christopher18d ago

*** But yea, In actuality its Insomniac not having spare dev time to get involved in the port work, atm. ***

Definitely this. They're working on two major IPs as it is and Sony forced them to layoff some people at the end of last year as well. So, likely not capable of sparing the time because resources are being fully utilized.

badz14918d ago (Edited 18d ago )

There was an article awhile back talking about the situation with SSoD. Insomniac does own the IP and Sony now owns it after they bought Insomniac but the publishing right for SSoD is owned by MS - at least the 1st game still is. MS has to sell the publishing rights like they did with the first Mass Effect game to EA after EA bought Bioware before Sony can do anything with the IP.

Einhander197218d ago

Nobody cares about Sunset Overdrive, except all the xbox fanboys who didn't buy it but like to come into articles about the game and try to act like it's somehow Sony's fault for whatever reason.

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darthv7218d ago

there was supposed to be a sequel. IG had it all planned but MS said no. And Sony wont greenlight a sequel if they cant get the first one away from MS. Plus... IG has other projects they moved on to anyways so...... yeah.

fr0sty18d ago

Well, with the recent change in policy towards exclusivity, I imagine Sony could get MS to port it over.

Zeref18d ago

Because a game needs to sell 10 million copies for it to be considered beloved 😂

Christopher18d ago

I mean, it's also not a highly rated game, not even in Insomniac's top ten or even top ten on Xbox that year. With this logic, any game can be beloved and so throwing around the word beloved means absolutely nothing. Doesn't have to sell or have great critical reception, just a handful of people need to love it.

Hofstaderman18d ago

You guys are so starved for games you reminiscing about a decade old game made by a now Sony studio. Of course it never sold 10 million, the vast majority of people bought a PS4.

LucasRuinedChildhood18d ago

A game not played by many can still be beloved by those who played it, yeah.

Only making a profit of $567 after 10 years shows that it was not as beloved as it should have been though. That's really bad.

As much as people complain about AAA games not being unique or having fun ideas or bringing in new IP, a lot of gamers don't show up for them. Even less people seem to have played Hi-Fi Rush.

romulus2318d ago

What's it considered if it just sells 1.8 million copies like it did?.

FinalFantasyFanatic18d ago

It was okay when I played it on PC, idk if I'd consider it one of the more beloved games of that generation.

Zeref18d ago

@Christopher

8s and 9s is not highly rated, okay buddy 😂

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MontyeKristo18d ago

I mean, it sounds like you're just hating on the game - but, I loved it. It was one of my favorite games of it's time and that generation. Replayability could have been better, but I still managed to play it several times. I would have greatly appreciated a sequel and definitely would have been in line to pick it up..

Things happen.

Christopher18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

***I mean, it sounds like you're just hating on the game***

No, that's all the people who refused to accept that this game was beloved and never even bought it. I, on the other hand, bought, played it, thought it was 'okay' and moved on.

Now, what hate did you see in my post other than listing the fact that it's not as beloved as the few who liked it? This and Days Gone get way more love in online discussions than they do in sales and support, I find. Both are okay games, not much more. But for some **unknown** reason, people prop them up often as more than they are.

Profchaos18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

It's in noabs land unfortunately as Microsoft own the publishing rights to sunset overdrives original game while insomniac own the IP.

So Microsoft would have to be onboard with publishing this game on PlayStation systems with the understanding the would not profit from any subsequent games in the franchise unlike the games they are currently releasing on ps5 to get players into their franchises this would be a small cash injection build a fanbase around a game they no longer own then nothing.

ChasterMies17d ago

I really don’t get the love for Sunset Overdrive. It’s one of the few games I bought, played a few hours, gave up, and never returned.

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isarai18d ago

Not beloved enough for Xbox owners to buy it apparently, Xbox was the worst possible audience for that game.

Obscure_Observer18d ago

Sony couldn´t give a f* about Insomniac´s freedom of creativity, that´s why you don´t have a port for that game and will not be getting a sequel either!

That franchise wil probably never make a comback thanks to Sony´s greed for money, which have turned Insomniacs into a Marvel´s slave factory until 2030.

It´s sad, but it is what it is.

ApocalypseShadow18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

I didn't know that Ratchet and Clank were part of the Avengers of Marvel? Hidden in the ending credits of Guardians of the Galaxy or something? Captain Marvel?

Beyond the "cry me a river" of your comment that these Marvel games aren't on Xbox, it was Insomniac that was approached by Sony to work with Marvel to make a game. And let them decide what character they wanted to develop. They chose Spider-Man. Must be highly profitable for them. Wolverine is a profitable, recognizable character. And the X-Men definitely are a hot property that gamers would love as a story based videogame. Being that X-Men 97 brings back a popular Saturday morning cartoon and the introduction of the X-Men into the MCU movies coming up.

It was Microsoft's continued incompetence in cancelling the Marvel MMO game and turning down Marvel in making a super hero game as they were asked first.

Keep the tears flowing. It's not greed. It was smart business to say yes. And maybe Insomniac wants to make these games. And not a game that didn't sell well to an audience that doesn't buy games.

Christopher18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

Neither does Microsoft either, based on your own argument here. Microsoft denied the sequel, not Insomniac/Sony. There's also no sign that Microsoft is allowing a port. They control the next two games in the IP and any DLC or the like for the first. But, nothing.

What's sad is people trying to use this game to blame businesses for doing business things that they are both doing as some way to make them look worse. Microsoft wants to use Insomniac to make a good IP that sells their platform and Sony wants to use Insomniac to make a good IP that sells their platform. But, no, Sony bad!

Don't know why the truth that these companies are very much alike is so hard for people to accept.

romulus2318d ago

Your comment literally contradicts itself but troll statements typically do. If Sony is so greedy for money as you proclaim than wouldn't it behoove them to not only release the first game on their console but a sequel as well, as that would be a way for them to make profit and that's apparently their focus according to you? Speaking of profit and greed, I suppose Microsoft bought all those Developers and Publishers in hopes that they wouldn't make any money from it, right? Your ability to troll on this site with impunity is whats sad, but it is what it is.

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PhillyDonJawn18d ago

I bought it, along with at least 1-2 million others.

PrinceOfAnger18d ago

Very fun game that need a sequel.

-Foxtrot18d ago

Insomniac: “We went with Microsoft because we want to own the IP so it’s ours”

Microsoft: *owns publishing rights preventing the studio to re-release the original game, make a remaster, remake, any DLC, massive expansions and multiple sequels on other platforms*

The logic is just…I never got it

Owning the IP was Insomniacs main defence when they announced they were making a game exclusively for MS and yet they’ve ended up “owning” an IP they can’t do anything with.

If they went with Sony like normal you might have seen a sequel by now.

Tacoboto18d ago

The winner of the Logic Cake has to be Bungie, though.

Wanted to be free from Halo and MS, so they buy themselves out, only to partner up with Activision, in the same timeframe as Activision ousting the heads of Infinity Ward, for a full decade with Destiny.

... And then things start falling apart in that relationship almost immediately, whodathought!

Christopher18d ago

Hey, when Sony offers to overpay you for your services and signs a contract that says they won't force you to do anything you don't want, who would say no? Such an overpriced purchase from Sony. Poor business, IMHO. But, honestly, I'm not a business person. But, still, I don't understand it.

darthv7218d ago

...and it seems this conundrum is also why the game cannot receive any sort of FPS boost patch for Series consoles. IG wont make it, and Ms can't get another team to do it without consent from IG. I liked it on XBO, but now I also have this on PC and I can tell ya... it definitely benefits from a 60fps frame rate.

badz14918d ago

been playing it at 1080p144fps on my modest pc. not the hardest game to max out and yeah this game definitely needs to be played at high fps considering all the actions

darthv7218d ago

Sadly this may never get the proper fps update it deserves on XB (or even PS) but I now play it on steam and it definitely feels better at 60fps than it did at 30. Its a fast paced game... you need that 60fps in this one.

babadivad18d ago

This game was so fun. Me and my brother put many hours into this one.

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Good games for the $9.99 bin, you can get all of the Metro's for $10 in a bundle.

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darthv72126d ago

Not gonna lie... looking at the IG roadmap I was fully hoping to see SSOD2 and Resistance reboot on there. The first SSOD was fun. It definitely needed the benefits of a 60fps mode and I was expecting there to be some sort of patch or FPS boost support when played on SX. Sadly... that ship sailed, but Sony gave me hope they would do the game justice. It really is a fun game that deserves to be played.

Gazondaily126d ago

At least it made some money. Ratchet and Clank lost Sony about $8m.

Eonjay126d ago (Edited 126d ago )

And yet they were happy to join PlayStation and since then they have made that back many, many times over. And clearly, it wasn't enough to keep them from releasing another Rachet per leaks.

Einhander1972126d ago

Wanna talk about the profitability of Forza or Redfall?

8m is a number that will easily be made back when iR&C has been on the market as long as SO has, R&C will make more profit that SO ever will.

mkis007126d ago

Nah that was later updated to say it made sony money but maybe not insomniac

maniacmayhem126d ago (Edited 126d ago )

It's probably why Insomniac is going the Marvel route for a while and then later bring out their next R&C game.

It's not a bad way to do business honestly. They develope something for a while that will guarantee some money and then in between being out something of their own.

Unfortunately, with the way the industry is, this is how things are going to be mostly.

@Eonjay

Of course they were happy, I remember when they were happy they were independent, but they saw how tough it was being that and without first party support and came running back to Sony.

Einhander1972126d ago

I just want to add that $8m is only 265,000 copies at $30. The game will easily cross that.

outsider1624126d ago (Edited 126d ago )

That money can be spent buying a PS5 with Ratchet and Clank.

IRetrouk125d ago

No it didn't septic, you read projections and thought you read actual money made, calm down 🤣

Outside_ofthe_Box125d ago

"No it didn't septic, you read projections and thought you read actual money made, calm down"

So you saying he got excited and jumped the gun like a typical overzealous fanatic?

itsmebryan125d ago

@Gazo
R&C lost $8 million. So after all the pride PS5 owners took in the game they didn't buy it? That's crazy. Some said before Sony 1st party games don't sell well. I guess it's true

CobraKai125d ago

@Maniac
Marvel came to Sony with the pitch to do a Marvel game after MS turned them down. Sony gave the job to Insomniac who got to choose any Marvel character to do a game for, and the rest is history

DivineHand125125d ago

If there is one game they should have made money on it's Ratchet and Clank. That game was fun from start to finish. I hope this doesn't discourage them from making more games in the future.

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notachance126d ago

Lol look at everyone here jumping to reply based only on other comment here

The claim that R&C made $73m while costing $81m was based on leaked 2020 presentation slide, and on the same leak you can also find Insomniac’s own claim that it already made $145m on R&C Rift Apart..

outsider1624126d ago

As you can see they dont read much.

Zhipp125d ago

I didn't know Insomniac earned money from games. As a first party studio I figured all profits/losses were absorbed my the parent company.

Vits125d ago

Unless Sony coughs up the cash to buy the publishing rights from Microsoft, or the wild scenario of Microsoft snagging the IP from Sony happens, talking about sequels, ports, or even DLC is pretty much wishful thinking.

Source: https://gamevro.com/microso...

Jin_Sakai126d ago

If it were on PlayStation it would’ve sold better. Being a Microsoft exclusive was a mistake.

CrashMania126d ago

Zeref running around calling everything a flop, bet he won't call this a flop, can't begin to imagine why.

darthv72126d ago

well..... it did make IG some kind of $ unlike R&C which lost $8m in the process.

Does that count?

TheKingKratos125d ago

Well darth ... You went full fanboy and pretty much acting stupid or possibly can't read

As a user above said

They claim that R&C made $73m while costing $81m was based on leaked 2020 presentation slide, and on the same leak you can also find Insomniac’s own claim that it already made $145m on R&C Rift Apart..

Kribwalker126d ago

Yeah 😂😂😂 That’s why the newest ratchet game lost $8 million

purple101126d ago

Had a bigger budget
+ console shortage
+ is was ps5 only.

God if war and gt7 were made crossgen and made money in the same time period

Jin_Sakai126d ago

“Yeah 😂😂😂 That’s why the newest ratchet game lost $8 million“

Sunset Overdrive budget $42.6 million
Ratchet & Clank budget $81 million

You do the math. 😉

Eonjay126d ago

Rachet and Clank sold more than Sunset Overdrive so yes.

CrashMania126d ago

You'd have a point if the numbers weren't from 2022, and before the PC port, and before the thread, mkis. Might not have made a huge profit, but it didn't lose money.

notachance126d ago

Before 2022 and before PC Port, yes

Be honest, you jumped to reply this only by looking at some other comment mentioning that while completely skipping the following replies aren’t you?

Jin_Sakai126d ago (Edited 126d ago )

Sunset Overdrive budget $42.6 million
Ratchet & Clank budget $81 million

And R&C was profitable. Even with nearly twice the budget.

“Update to the previous Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart sales thread: It was profitable. Sold 2,7m(as of roughly February 2022)”

https://www.resetera.com/th...

Outside_ofthe_Box125d ago

Jin, now why did you have to go ahead and ruin thesoftware730's day like that by posting facts? Smh

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Christopher126d ago

I mean, maybe because of market reach. But it wouldn't sell better than R&C or SM games. It was a fun game, but not as enjoyable as the others, IMHO.

ChasterMies126d ago

Dead Rising 3, Rise Son or Rome, the Titanfall franchise, and the Tomb Raider franchise were all hurt by Xbox exclusivity.

cammers1995125d ago

Exactly. Fuze and sunset overdrive. Both came to Xbox. Both failed. Hmm.

Knightofelemia125d ago (Edited 125d ago )

It was an exclusive because during that time Insomniac was not owned by Sony. Sony has to honor that contract or they will be forced to pay it out or go to court. No different then a Microsoft title being an Sony exclusive they have to honor the contract.

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mastershredder126d ago

"where Sunset Overdrive is concerned, the money the studio has made off it is quite negligible, to say the least."

I'm sure that big platform jump had nothing to do with it right? Pull a Rare, win Rare Prizes.

P_Bomb126d ago (Edited 126d ago )

Re. R&C and the 8 million, I wonder if hitting PS+ Extra hurt its legs? Good get for the service, but did it eat some sales?

FIELDMARSHALL_P126d ago

More than likely, but it could also make new fans that wouldn't have normally played the game buy the new one.

Hofstaderman126d ago

Same excuse XBOX fans use and look at whats happening to them and their preferred console...

Hofstaderman126d ago

I think it did. This highlights the pitfall of day one releases on sub services. I know R and C was not day one but it would have benefited from having more time to garner sales on its own steam.

Crows90125d ago

Learn to read. It didn't lose money. Read again.

P_Bomb124d ago

“Learn to read.”

I can read just fine professor. See yourself out 😤

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