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Killzone 4K?

Tom Ellis of Gamer Attitude theorises the next Killzone could be to showcase PS4's 4K capabilities.

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mikeslemonade3225d ago (Edited 3225d ago )

We won't even see a stable 4k for the next generation of consoles.

Not even the strongest single gpu can even handle the latest games on 4k at 60 frames and max settings.

LightofDarkness3225d ago (Edited 3225d ago )

Well console games are typically happy to sit at 30fps with a mixture of medium-high settings (and some custom effects), the next gen will likely be pushed to go 4k. I see visual detail levels beginning to settle into a status quo of "good enough" over the course of this gen; it's much too expensive already to make games (hence DLC, pre-order content, season passes etc.) and pushing much further with artistic detail will increase costs exponentially. I reckon next gen will focus on mildly enhancing current detail levels but improving resolution and framerate. 4k might seem like a stretch now but we're talking 5 years from now.

It might be like last gen with the handful of 1080p games it offered, but I've no doubt it will be there. Next gen should at least make 1080p/60 a standard, regardless.

ManOfTheYear13225d ago

LMFAO

We will NEVER see a game running in 4K on the PS4. EVER.

Meanwhile, I can't wait for World of Tanks on the Xbox One which will be running in 4K.

Not 2 years into this gen and already Xbox One is the first to have a 4K game.

Funny...Xbox One was also the first console to see a game running in 1080p and a locked 60fps.

Sony has said themselves PS4 won't have 4K games and that you will only see 4K playback video.

Meanwhile, Major Nelson has said Xbox One will have 4K games...and behold, World of Tanks confirmed to be in 4K.

Rimeskeem3226d ago

Who knows, maybe the next game will be an 8bit shooter.

LostDjinn3225d ago

I sure hope whoever wrote this was joking.

_-EDMIX-_3225d ago

The deep, deep lolz. Who the hell is approving these articles?

First that is developer dependent, not console, if they want to make a game at that res, they are free to do so, clearly at many, many and I mean many limitations.

Second, Sony has already stated they have no plans for 4k gaming this gen with PS4.

Third, 4k on a new killzone doesn't mean it would look better, the trade-off would be so damn significant that many features gamers are expecting would not be their.

Lighting, shadows, real time particle effects, animations etc, they would need to tone down sooooooo much, that your ONLY getting a better res, but what the hell is a better resolution to a game that looks like crap? To do that is to make Killzone look LESSOR graphically based on what they have to turn off and remove just to hit that number.

You'll just have a crispy looking, flat, non-texture, no real time lighting, slow running game. Who wants to play that?

I'm confused as I thought they might have meant Killzone 1 from PS2, as I 100% can see that running in 4K on PS4 as I can see original XB games running at 4k on XONE as some of those games that gen lacked many features that would make it hard to put in that resolution to make it playable. ie Killzone 1 on PS4 in 4k is likely very doable, vs Killzone Shadow Fall as in its current state and quality is technically impossible.

If they wanted to, they would have already done so, but its clear its not worth the huge trade-off in effects, quality, features JUST to get such a thing. Those bragging rights don't get folks buying PS4's as I'm pretty damn sure Halo 6 in 1080p, 60fps will destroy anything in 4k on CURRENT CONSOLES as they can focus on graphic quality and pushing many effects, vs a game that can't.

This article had might as well be about Ouya getting Half Life 3 at 4k....

Not news, doesn't technically even make sense and doesn't factor many, many things.

Mega243225d ago

I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, it's just hypebole.

deadpoolio3163225d ago

It has to be considering BOTH console makers have stated publicly that NO Xbox One and PS4 cannot do 4k gaming...4k Video YES, they are both capable of that but not gaming...So its not like some secret when they are both saying their consoles are unable

medman3225d ago

Make. Believe.......Unbelievable.

DC7773223d ago

It must be a joke because Shadowfall made my ps4 sound like it was going to burn up or something as it is.

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crazychris41243226d ago

There won't be any games this gen that can play games at 4k. Just requires way too much power. Even the average GPUs for PC struggle to hit 4k while also being playable.

Instead of Killzone at 4k on the PS4 I'm sure will see killzone on VR. We did see K3 in the move so it makes sense.

yarbie10003226d ago

They can't even keep a stable FPS with 1080P 30fps. So I woudln't bet on it

Rimeskeem3226d ago

uhhhhhh, what game has that problem that you know of?

MasterCornholio3225d ago

Wasn't the problem that it was above 30FPS but then they released a patch that allowed you to lock it at 30FPS?

We are talking about Killzone Shadowfall right since this article is about Killzone.

As for games with 1080P and a rock solid 30FPS there are plently of examples. Like Batman Arkham Knight for example especially after the patch.

MasterCornholio3225d ago

Will not happen with either system.

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Killzone wasn’t a Halo killer, but a PS5 remake could come close

The first Killzone game never met lofty expectations of dethroning Xbox’s Halo, but if any game needs a PS5 remake, this is the one.

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Vits96d ago

I like Halo, but I don't think there is any need for a 'Halo Killer' at this point. If anything, the franchise is slowly undermining itself by making some of the dumbest mistakes possible. Infinite has finally reached a good point in terms of multiplayer, but it took an extra 2 years to get there. Meanwhile, the single-player experience is fine but rather mediocre when compared to the franchise peak.

That said, I would like to see the Killzone franchise back, if anything, to offer more variety to the PS5 exclusive catalog.

_SilverHawk_96d ago

sony should remaster all killzone games and bring back killzone multiplayer that is very similar to the style of killzone 2 multiplayer.

Cacabunga95d ago

Halo killed itself after Halo Reach.
Killzone went a little down in quality with SF on PS4 and I wish they kept them coming..

InUrFoxHole95d ago

??? Halo is doing great right now. I wouldn't mind seeing a kz2 mp rebirth

Cacabunga95d ago

Spawn grenade tactician class my favorite..

darthv7296d ago

I'd love a killzone trilogy, fully remastered on a single disc like they did with Uncharted. Maybe they could make it the full killzone saga including PSP and Vita games converted to console.

REDGUM96d ago

Yes please. Put me down for a copy, price irrelevant too. Loved allow those games in the franchise :)

Chocoburger96d ago

I've never liked the idea of a 'franchise killer', why can't both thrive, without one killing off the other? Its such a childish mentality.

That being said, if there ever was a true 'Halo killer', then it would have to be 343 Studios, and the Xbox division. They're doing a fine job killing off their own IP, apparently.

Profchaos95d ago

Cause console wars mostly drove the halo v killzone thing

Eonjay95d ago

And media co.panies like IGN drove the console wars for clicks.

Profchaos95d ago

@eonjay
Yeah and I still cringe super hard when IGN runs their next gen console watch segment 3 years into the consoles lifecycle we are approaching midgen likely by December and they are out there milking clicks like it's mid 2020 and were starved for information

ModsDoBetter96d ago

Halo doesn't need to be killed, they've done that themselves. It's a shell of its former self.

Zeref95d ago

And yet Halo is still here. Where is Killzone? Resistance? Haze? All the supposed "Halo Killers" are dead franchises 😂

DarXyde95d ago (Edited 95d ago )

"Dead" really isn't the right word for any of these franchises (except Haze). You're also calling these games dead for different reasons. oIMyersIo is saying a Halo is dead because it is not what it used to be and is saying it has gotten much worse. You are saying those franchises faded into obscurity and no one cares. I also find it funny that your first reaction is to name PlayStation franchises because you perceived their comment as a slight against Xbox. I hope you're at the very least part of their ambassador program...

Anyone that sees Killzone as dead is pretty myopic. A decade since their last Killzone, but they themselves have developed two full games since Shadow Fall. That's not many in context at all.

Resistance is a bit less clear. Insomniac is pretty tied up at the moment. Including all of their games on all platforms and ignoring Spider-Man Remastered, we're looking at 23 games since Resistance 3. That's alarmingly prolific and still no R4. My guess? In the modern era, a new Resistance is probably going to have to be a live service and Insomniac is not that studio.

I don't think it's dead though. Not at all.

Gaming4Life198195d ago

Halo infinite is still the best exclusive fps and is doing great but you think it's dead lol. Its also one of the top fps games out here so i dont get where your coming from. Just because you don't play it does not mean it's dead or dying.

I liked killzone 1 & 2 and I think Sony should bring it back along with resistance cause they are in need of more variety in their first party lineup. Sony & MS are sitting on some great franchises that need a revival.

ModsDoBetter95d ago

"Just because you don't play it"

And there your argument was derailed.
Through making such an assumption, you have only served to show that your response is that of a fanboy and any criticism of your beloved franchises is met with speculation in order to downplay any counter argument.

As a matter of fact, as many in team blue on this site will tell you, I often do defend Xbox just as much as I defend PS, so for you to make such a silly comment is laughable.

I have played plenty of Halo: Infinite - on Series S, Series X and PC via Steam. To say the game comes anywhere near the franchise greats such as Combat Evolved and Halo 2 is delusional. The franchise is a shell of its former self and that is a FACT.

It absolutely isn't the best fps exclusive but at this point we're arguing over preferences which is pointlessly subjective.

Where I do agree is that a Resistance comeback would be great for Sony.

DrDoomer96d ago

I'd take Killzone and Resistance over Halo any day.

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A Live Service Approach Could Allow a New Killzone Game To Thrive

The Killzone series has been dormant since Shadow Fall, but a live service style for its multiplayer might just be exactly what it needs to succeed.

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TheExecutioner511d ago

It will fail as a live service. An attractive reboot is required. Sony needs a strong first party FPS.

TheEnigma313511d ago (Edited 511d ago )

They don't need a first party fps. Outside of Cod, they aren't as popular as they were last gen and definitely not as popular as they were in the PS3/360 era.

Pedantic91511d ago

COD is not the be-all and end-all of FPS games. Sony will only have it for a couple of years as the deal is more or less set in stone. Sony needs to work on bringing back Resistance/Killzone/MAG. They're sitting on so many IPs and yet they much prefer to chase the cinematic crowd or be an overall nuisance when things are changing. What did they expect when they play the money game against a much more wealthier company to can outpsend you when neccessary.

The "Trying to turn us into another Nintendo" should have been seen as compliment or as another way to thrive.

shinoff2183511d ago

Pedantic91

Playing the money game do you mean the advertising rights to cod

Those Same rights ms bought first back during the 360. Ms has had 20 years to get it together and they haven't. All I have to say is who's next ms couldn't handle it even worse since they had more money then nin and Sony. They closed and or ruined so many studios. What is their issue

Rhezin511d ago

Agreed. That’s all they need now. A new Killzone/Resistance game would be perfect.

Mr_cheese511d ago

I'd love both! Especially miss Resistance. So many memories

1Victor510d ago

I would prefer a hawk game like a sequel/ reboot of Starhawk hell I’ll even take a remastered Warhawk or Starhawk with higher players numbers, 64 would be awesome

Crows90510d ago

I think they could seriously improve the fps genre in ways they dont even know.
Imagine those set peice moments that theyre making in 3rd person translated and designed for 1st person.

I think they could compete at a certain extent with CoD. Ive wanted another killzone and resistance long before the activ bliizard deal came around. Not to compete with CoD but to give great single player fps campaigns...this is sorely lacking right now and I hope Sonys sees it eventually.

Vengeance1138511d ago

Can't do any worse than Halo as a live service so yes please, atleast try it.

kingnick510d ago

Best careful what you wish for.

Overwatch 2 is another bad live service game.

Once a developer and publisher have burnt most of the goodwill of their playerbase an entire franchise can be destroyed.

Vengeance1138510d ago

Overwatch 2 despite the rough launch and bugs is hugely successful and crazy popular.
Not to mention Killzone is already dead so if a live service fails it what? Goes back to doing what it is now, being dead. Thus Killzone has absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Outside_ofthe_Box511d ago

Hell no.

Just remake KZ2 keep gameplay the same and it'll thrive, I'm sure of it.

JEECE511d ago

No it won't because if they just released a real multiplayer game and not a live service in 2022/2023 people would be whining two weeks after launch that the game was abandoned and "sent out to die."

People hate the terms "Live Service" and "Games as a Service," but in reality that's the only thing people want to play.

shinoff2183511d ago

Not at all. I currently play no live service games. I did try fallout 76. It became annoying when they wanted money for more storage. I probably played about 15 hours or so.

JEECE511d ago

@shinoff2183

I appreciate that individuals here and there don't, but if you look at how people react to multiplayer games now, it's clear that people want a live service, even if they don't want the publisher to call it that.

Look at Battlefield V. Tha game had maps released here and there for about a year and half, which is actually pretty typical for a Battlefield game (only 4 got map packs later in it's life cycle). Yet the entire narrative around that game now is that the devs abandoned it.

Or look at Red Dead Online. People talk about that game being "dead," and the community even had a funeral. Which you'd think would mean that the servers were down (that's what it used to mean), but it actually just meant the game was just being maintained in a status quo, not as a live service.

Heck, people's complaints about Halo are even more evidence. People used to play Halo multiplayer to have fun. Now people can't see the point in playing the game if there aren't new skins to earn.

SurgicalMenace511d ago

Exactly!! If you don't believe what's being said, I dare you to explore the most successful ongoing games. It seems like people just want everything to stay the same with no progression. I may not play, Destiny, Fortnite, FF14, League, Genshin or the like but I can see the opportunity they add to the industry.

--Onilink--511d ago

Honestly, people dont even understand what live service is at this point. They just hate the term.

What exactly would an FPS in 2022 that is NOT live service be?
No new maps released consistently
No new guns
Maybe a map pack at some point that completely breaks the player base/matchmaking
No constant balance / tuning updates

Thats what a live service FPS is at the end of the day. Anything else like battle passes or microtransactions are the funding methods

badz149510d ago

@JEECE

Halo Infinite MP was released as a live service game, though. it's starved off contents unlike other live service games thus the backlash is justified imo.

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masterfox511d ago

oh hell no!!!!, look at Halo it sure is thriving lol, Killzone only needs a good story, heck you could even leave the graphics visual style of Shadowfall cause up to this day still looks freaking amazing.

Profchaos511d ago

It was my favourite in the franchise to date because it was a departure from the drab and dreary original colour profile the city keeps were still some of the best you'll see on ps4 to this day

kingnick510d ago

343i can't develop their own games in their own right and outsource when possible. I doubt Guerrilla Games would make the same mistakes but I don't see Killzone being a live service game adding much to anything other then Sony's bottom line.

TheEnigma313511d ago

Shadowfall was such a drop off from KZ 2/3. I wish they could remake KZ2; with the weight feel also.

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The Shelving Of Killzone Leaves a Hole In PlayStations First Party

With the future of Killzone in question, it leaves a hole that might not be easily filled in PlayStation's first party line up.

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Knightofelemia1187d ago (Edited 1187d ago )

Same goes with Resistance another great title that has been shelved.

_SilverHawk_1187d ago

I don't think these games are gone. Also insomniac has been teasing resistance for over a year so I expect to hear about that franchise soon or sometime this year

Vengeance11381187d ago

*Had been shelved, though most likely not anymore with all the Insomniac teasing.

phoenixwing1187d ago

If they make a new Resistance game it better not be a cod clone.

Vengeance11381187d ago

Why would it be a Cod clone? A new Resistance would be a.. Resistance clone with Resistance style gameplay. This is Insomniac, they don't do ripoffs.

solideagle1187d ago

lol Insomniac don't do ripoff and Spiderman is copy/paste of batman even some of the side quests. I have not played it myself but my friend was saying its shameless how much copy/paste insomniac has done from batman games.

Vengeance11381187d ago

Must have missed the sections in Batman Arkham where hes web swinging from area to area or juggling a whole group of enemies in the air at once.

P_Bomb1186d ago (Edited 1186d ago )

“... my friend was saying its shameless how much copy/paste insomniac has done from batman games.”

He wasn’t around for Spider-man on PS2 I take it? Parker was juggling back when Bruce was still struggling with Dark Tomorrow.

2003 https://www.metacritic.com/...
2004 https://www.metacritic.com/...
2005 https://www.metacritic.com/...

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aaronaton1187d ago (Edited 1187d ago )

The lack of 1st party multiplayer titles is shocking, i was bleak even on PS4 compared to PS3:

Killzone 2,3
Warhawk, Starhawk
Socom Confrontation and Socom 4
Motorstorm 1,2
MAG
Twisted Metal
Resistance 1,2
MGO2
TLOU (multiplayer)
Uncharted 2,3 (multiplayer)

The list goes on and on.
I get that they are great at 1st party single player experiences, but the appeared abandonment of multiplayer enabled titles (or even news of, for that matter) is pretty miserable.

JEECE1187d ago

Unfortunately Sony would make good multiplayer titles, but people on Playstation would largely ignore them in favor of more generic third party stuff, so as much as I miss their output, I can't blame them for focusing on games people actually buy.

Sophisticated_Chap1186d ago (Edited 1186d ago )

This is exactly why I dropped off Playstation after watching the PS4 launch. Almost all of those games were completely non-existent on PS4, with the exception of a very mediocre Killzone game, and a God of War game, Uncharted game and TLOU2 game that came out towards the end of the PS4 generation.

Last gen I switched to Xbox for a different experience since Playstation started charging for online, which leveled the playing field with Xbox Live, and didn't have any of the games I liked (most of which are in your list). For all of Xbox's faults, I was able to experience the 360 generation games through backwards compatibility, plus I was able to play the newer gears games and Halo games, which were a lot of fun. Titanfall was pretty awesome in the early Xbox One days also.

SmokinAces1187d ago

No it doesn't leave a hole it makes room for something else. Cool doom and gloom article though.

RyanShutup1187d ago

Resistance and KZ need a revival.

Silly gameAr1187d ago

They can't work on new games and try new things? I doubt Killzone is gone forever, but I'd rather they work on new potential franchises, and when they do go back to Killzone, they'll have fresh, new ideas.

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