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Will Xbox One Beat PlayStation 4 This Holiday Season?

AOTF:
The Xbox One certainly did not get things off on the right foot this generation with a debacle of a reveal and follow-up that turned many gamers off of the Xbox brand completely. Microsoft was able to make a 180 and did away with what everyone hated and managed to win many gamers back luckily. This partially led the system to lag behind the PlayStation 4 in sales almost every month and by a far margin overall, but Microsoft was able to pull out a surprising win in April in the recent NPD announcement. With an already strong holiday lineup even before the upcoming E3 announcements, is Microsoft setting themselves up to take down the goliath that is PlayStation 4 this coming holiday season?

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Paytaa3257d ago

Who cares if it sells more or not. I just want new great games.

StrayaKNT3257d ago

Well said. Apparently sales matter more to gamers than games these days, which is pretty sad if you ask me.

Genuine-User3257d ago (Edited 3257d ago )

Having games through-out the year matter more than just the last 3 months of a year.

Fanboys are among the most pathetic of enthusiast players.

You continuously showcase obsessive irrational behavior overriding any social graces. You also seem to have a superiority complex.

Your bias is not hidden pal:

"We need sony to show exclusives that make the console worth owning, I really don't want to see any more anime or indie games or jrpgs I want solid AAA titles but I won't be holding my breath"

"The nail in the coffin is halo 5 sp shown at e3."

"Lmao and you think Microsoft needs a counter to uncharted? I'll take Quantum break over it anyday"

"I'm exactly like you I only got my ps4 for exclusives as I mainly game on my xbox one but there isn't much exclusives on the ps4 to keep me going back these days it's a pretty empty year for ps owners but the end of this year looks so packed for xbox owners"

"Them being there is impressive enough. Halo 5 sp is all this world needs and all Microsoft needs to win e3."

"This year and next years line up for the Xbox one is absolutely unmatched so he should be confident like usual."

"Xbox owns every e3. Last year they absolutely blew us away and this year only looks like its going to be even bigger and better :)"

"Xbox one don't even need to think about it. Best games ever."

"Sorry dude Im wrong wrong, driveclub and Lbp owned last year lmfaoooooooooooooo"

"Hours I've put on my xbox 800+
Hours I've put on my ps4 30+
Oh wait it's ps4home.com lmao "

TheGreatGamer3257d ago

@GenuineUser trust me I understand where you're coming from but you're presenting the fanboy issue as if it only comes from X1 owners. The fact is it comes from both camps and at the end of the day it doesn't bloody matter as long as YOU enjoy the console you bought I don't see the point in worrying about the other console owners and trying to undermine their decision, which applies to both camps

Genuine-User3257d ago (Edited 3257d ago )

@TheGreatGamer

Every platform has obsessive, irrational fanboys, be it Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo or PC.
I despise all of them.

Paytaa3257d ago

@Genuine-User Not trying to undermine what you said since most of it is true but realistically Sony fanboys are just as bad if not worse. Also, of course having games through out the year matters but just because PS4 may have had 2 big releases Q1 (Bloodborne and The Order) doesn't mean that Xbox One is now doomed. An exclusive Xbox One gamer won't really care that much. This generation is still in it's infancy so we will see many great games on all fronts in the next few years.

johndoe112113257d ago (Edited 3257d ago )

No, not "these days". Last gen sales were everything to xbox supporters, this gen, not so much apparently.

@paytaa
"sony fanboys are just as bad if not worse"
That's hogwash. No group is worse or better than the other. The moment you start to say that you become one. They are ALL the bloody same. It all depends on which console is ahead at the time.

This gen it's the xbox fans that are most irrational and illogical because they make up facts and twist figures to paint their console in a positive light. Some of the statements that some of them make borders on insanity due to them being so irrational. At the first half of last gen it was the ps fans because so much negativity surrounded the launch and initial first years of the ps3.

Nintedo and pc fanboys are a whole other topic. No one is worse or better than anyone else and only a hypocrite with an agenda would argue otherwise.

Bigpappy3257d ago (Edited 3257d ago )

@Genuine-User: "Every platform has obsessive, irrational fanboys, be it Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo or PC.
I despise all of them."

"You continuously showcase obsessive irrational behavior overriding any social graces. You also seem to have a superiority complex.

Your bias is not hidden pal:"

You attack AussieGamer1 for stating that sales should be the focus of gamers and you point out his bias. I also have a bias and so do you. If we didn't, I would not know that you prefer PS and I prefer Xbox. It is all good, I think, until we start tossing around insults and lies. Just keep it civil and focus on facts.

I decide to respond to your comment because I don't see you rushing to condemn PS fanboys who make way more inflaming comments against anything Xbox. You even indulge yourself from time to time, and you are in no better standing to be calling out AussieGamer1. He didn't even mention a console in his comment.

Genuine-User3257d ago

@Bigpappy

I'm not "attacking" AussieGamer1, I'm calling him out for his irrational, obsessive, denialist behavior.
I'm not bias, but I do have a preference. I always consider the possible merits of alternative points of view.

I despise fanboys, regardless of their platform of choice. In fact, I mentioned my disgust on this very thread.

Care to expose my indulgence in fanboy'ish behavior?

remixx1163257d ago (Edited 3257d ago )

Aussie dude you make me vomit, fanboys and gamers are 2 different things and you sit right in the prior....don't try and stomp on other gamers when your comment history is just........wow, opinions are one thing, preference is another and flat out bias makes the 2 aforementioned irrelevant...

DarXyde3257d ago (Edited 3257d ago )

Were you saying that last generation too?

I sure hope so.

@Genuine-User,

Just so you know, having a preference is literally the purest form of bias. Bias is predisposition and predisposition is preference. You cannot parse apart those two.

And frankly, it's okay. Everyone has biases. Anyone who says they don't is full of it.

freshslicepizza3257d ago (Edited 3257d ago )

@Genuine-User,
"I'm not "attacking" AussieGamer1, I'm calling him out for his irrational, obsessive, denialist behavior."

so according to you it's irrational, obsessive and denialist to say apparently some think sales matter more than game? if what that person said in the past is irrational and those other things then reply there, not here. why make things personal and drag down topics to get a point across because you two have history?

as for the subject at hand, yes the xbox one can beat the ps4 this holiday season but it is unlikely, especially outside of the us region and the uk. they would have to pretty much drop the price to $249 to outsell it in strong playstation areas and drop it to $99 to outsell the ps4 in japan.

what i don't want to see is sony get too complacent by delaying key titles just because they can and not drop the price of the ps4 just because it's selling. they need to continue rewarding the consumer because they want to, not because they have to. on the flipside microsoft has become a desperate microsoft and are willing to take far more aggressive measures than sony ought to.

SpinalRemains1383257d ago

These days?

Where were you in 06,07,07,09?

Sales were never a giant issue until Xbox fans began touting it like it was a be all-end all during beginning of last generation.

tuglu_pati3257d ago

If it does beat the PS4 it will be only on NA and UK, the rest of the world not a chance.

breakpad3256d ago (Edited 3256d ago )

...fanboy is idiot term by default ...to be fan is not bad thing is my f..ing free right to like fanatically whatever i want ...to be hypocrite , blind fan that is the problem , when you deny facts in order serve your ego or other purposes (aka biased journalism)

Kingscorpion713256d ago (Edited 3256d ago )

Sales is what keep game console's relevant and gives developers opportunities to make great games. Install base is very important in this era of gaming. No fanboy here but Microsoft and especially Sony will get more opportunities from indie developers and other second and third part developers in the future just because its selling so well.

Clunkyd3256d ago

@Aussie

Please speak for yourself.

BeefCurtains3256d ago

Lets break this down:

X1 fanboy: X1 will win
PS4 fanboy: PS4 will win

True Gamer: who cares, bring on the games.

Paytaa3256d ago

My bad for saying one group of fanboys can be worse than another. Worded wrong. I think fanboyism is a plague in gaming regardless the corporation supported.

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Abash3257d ago

These articles just dont spark the conversation they use to. I mean, the PS4 has a lead of about 10 million units over the Xbox One. Would the Xbox One winning this holiday season really change the situation right now?

kaizokuspy3257d ago

I don't think it would. I'm primarily a ps4 gamer this gen, so I hope xbox one dominates and catches up in terms of sales. Competition will drive risk and innovation. All gamers benefit the closer the competition performs to its opponents. I'm excited. E3 this year will be a treat for all gamers.

Letthewookiewin3256d ago

No, even if MS "wins" the holidays it won't be by that much. And truly the only reason X1 sold well last year was because MS conned everyone into thinking the price cut was temporary. Such looser's.

RocketScienceLvlStuf3256d ago

Who knows it could go either way it all depends on what is going to happen at e3.

If Sony have a price drop coming up I guarantee that Sony will take the holiday season.

Magicite3256d ago

Im pretty sure lots of people care, just look what happened to WiiU, it lost 3rd party support. More sales attract more publishers and therefore means more games.

PS4 got over 400 games (both released and announced), which is more than WiiU or X1.

Jag-T10003256d ago

400 games? What the hell are you smoking!

claudionmc3256d ago

@Jag-T1000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

524 games. 390 playable and counting.

smellslikeralph3256d ago

Agreed I own both I just want more games on either console

Brotard3256d ago

its not that people passionately care. some people just think its fun and entertaining to follow sales numbers

Valenka3256d ago (Edited 3256d ago )

Preach.
People care too much about pitting consoles against each other and it serves no purpose whatsoever at the end of the day.

TeamLeaptrade3256d ago

I totally agree. Just give me new games for each console and I'll be happy.

showtimefolks3256d ago

Are we talking about usa sales or world wide? No doubt ms has halo,forza and tomb raider

Sony has exclusive marketing rights for star wars, mgs5 and most likely next call of duty

If you ask me sony's 3rd party marketing deals could help them a lot come this fall.

Also I just don't believe that Sony will leave this fall empty. No man sky, I think the last guardian(like every year)

Ms takes the year off only to release games in a 3 months window yet xbox fans are good with that.

Last black Friday we had amazing deals for both consoles. I just can not wait to see what both do this year. Competition is a healthy thing for us as gameRs

Halo 5: people make halo the biggest thing ever, but did you know that Halo peaked with halo 3? Since than no halo game has come close to achieving those sale numbers

We are at forza 6 right and the series,is no match for GT, so if GT7 cones our this fall than GT will outsell forza like always and by huge margin

Tomb raider is a timed exclusive and ms again and again has said exclusive for fall 2015. meaning it could come to ps4 as early as q1 2016

for Xbox one to catch ps4, it has to outsell ps4 world wide. And that's just not gonna happen

Azzanation3256d ago

As a PC user all iv seen this gen is Sony fans talk sales numbers. Sales dont matter but for some reason who ever sells more means a better product. Guess a VW Beetle is better then a Bentley.

emilijo7773256d ago

They also talk about how Bloodborne is higher rated than any xbox one exclusive (and that highest rated xbox one "exclusive" is an indie game which is also on pc) and how PS4 has superior multiplats.

Automatic793256d ago

Well said Paytaa games is all I care about

TheXgamerLive3256d ago

No offence to Sony but MS does seem to beat Sony every holiday season.

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TheGreatGamer3257d ago

I think in the US MS is going to start gaining a lot more ground on Sony but catching up WORLDWIDE is the problem as XB1 doesn't sell that well outside of the US and UK but if MS can do better outside of these territories, well I'm sure Sony would welcome the competition as that's what makes the gaming business thrive

LostDjinn3257d ago

Wait.
Sales matter again?
I need some heavy equipment so I can get in to be goalpost relocation business. ;)

LostDjinn3256d ago

Why thankyou.
Got anything to pick 'em up with? I really don't want to physically touch them. With all the crap coming out of some people God only knows what they're covered with.

Why o why3256d ago (Edited 3256d ago )

There you go my good chap

http://ppe.ansell.com.au/si...

Always pleased to help

LostDjinn3256d ago

@ Above: Thanks why. I think I'll need two pairs though. One larger than the other. I may need to "double bag" if you will.

@ Below: Lacross? Yeah. I'd have a weapon to battle off the zealots then too. Good thinkin'.

rainslacker3256d ago

Just start playing lacrosse. The goals are much smaller, and you can break them down to fit in your trunk for those long trips.

JMaine5183257d ago (Edited 3257d ago )

As far as games offered? Yes, I can't wait to play Halo 5 and ROTR! Just doesn't seem like the PS4 has any major AAA games for the fall right now. Maybe e3 will change that but I doubt it.

In sales? No, WW is what matters and I can't see X1 winning worldwide. The PS4 is just a beast and I don't see it slowing down. People should also remember it's the big third party games that sell consoles and Sony is doing a good job getting partnership deals with these big third part games this fall.

Lennoxb633257d ago (Edited 3257d ago )

Who knows? Who cares? I'll be busy playing games, not sales.

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How to recruit Lam in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes

Lam is among the 120 characters available for recruitment in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes. While she is one of the many straightforward recruits, a known bug may prevent players from recruiting her if certain conditions are met. Despite developers’ assurances of fixing the bug, some early access players still encounter issues with recruiting Lam despite attempting the standard method.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow111h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos9h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos7h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje7h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

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Eidolon7h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum10h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum6h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola5h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum4h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

jambola4h ago

I agree
Your comment was pretty stupid

Rebel_Scum4h ago

I never said censorship is based on what I say dumbass. Just because I dont see this as censorship doesnt mean I’m saying others cant.

How about you come at me with your opinion rather than snarky comments with no thought on the matter.

SimpleDad7h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola5h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

Barlos4h ago

They'll probably make her trans

CobraKai6h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Killer2020UK6h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh6h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

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Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster Review – You Are Your Job, Apparently

Gary Green said: In a time where an enhanced, 3D remake of Final Fantasy III already exists, it’s hard to argue that Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster is the definitive version we were expecting. With Final Fantasy III already being the last in the series to be translated and make its way west, this is something of a slap in the face for the fans. Still, let’s not be disheartened. There may be many shortfalls in this edition of Final Fantasy III, however there’s no denying that this classic JRPG still holds some nostalgic value, even if it struggles to break away from its original hardware limitations.

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FACTUAL evidence11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

It’s funny I’m seeing these articles about pixel remaster, and I just platinumed 1-4 within 8 days lol. I’ve been on FF5 for about a week now. Let’s just say 5 was the start of FF having content like crazy. I should have the plat within 2-3 days.

MrBaskerville2h ago

The game being an accurate represantation of the original was not a slap in the face to the fans. The 3D remasters looked like ass (visually) tbh.