Reliable industry insider shares some information on Sony Bend's upcoming horror title as well as Guerrilla's new PS4 IP.
Days Gone developer appears to be moving well outside its comfort zone in order to join Sony's ongoing foray into live-service games.
Admin note: Updated this to rumor. Job listings can be a good indicator, but let's remember nothing is final until officially announced. ~Christopher
This game will determine the fate of Sony Bend. Not looking to good if it's a live service game.
Days gone is an amazing game which I believe was unfairly criticized for things a lot of other games gets a pass for. The game is very good but had a few bugs on launch that was quickly patched the day of release. There are so many games that took months to iron out most of the bugs that are highly praised so I can understand if the dev team decides to go a different route.
It's a tricky thing to try to make a sequel of a game because I've seen sequels improve a lot over the first game with new worlds and mechanics and get lower review scores while other games sequel have the same world with minor changes but get better review scores. Whatever the days gone developers are making I believe will be a good game because I know they are a good game studio.
Helldivers 2 proves you can make fun live service games that don't feel like they're nickle and diming you. I am optimistic
No, Sony is not allowed to have LS. Everyone else yes, but Sony is not allowed. We wont allow it.
Why? It's obvious at this point of what not to do when making a live service game. Plus you can see from Helldivers 2 that fun games can be made that don't feel like Microtransactions are weighing you or the game down.
For every helldivers 2 there are so many that aren’t good. Let’s not assume every sony live service game is gonna be helldivers 2.
To be fair, while Helldivers 2 has been great and quite successful, its only been out for a month and a half.
Its success from a launch standpoint has already been proven, but whether it succeeds as a Live Service game (in particular as one to be used as a model for others) is not really something we know yet.
The whole point of devs and publishers going for live service is the consistent revenue they provide over several years, not just 1-2 months
It's been obvious for years though. That hasn't stopped dozens of live service games crashing and burning on release for making the same mistakes again and again. This industry doesn't learn.
Why is it automatically bad? Maybe its a good game. I reserve my judgement until we see it.
Unless it is a hit like Helldivers ||, the studio will not survive unfortunately.
That is a lie. They can make a single player that players would claim they want, but would not support. They can make a good live service game like Helldivers 2. As long the game is good and the mtx are not bad, the game will do well. Their last game was a single-player game, yet most only got the game when it was heavily discounted.
Quite unfortunate.
Sony really should not be asking their long time studios to be making these games. Haven, Bungie, fine. Not Bend.
"Not looking to good if it's a live service game."
It´s Amazing news!
It could be a spiritual successor to Syphon Filter with multiplayer/co-op mechanics.
Bring it on, Bend!
I'm going to say this as someone who really enjoyed Days Gone
Why would you go and create an open world, multiplayer game with live service elements if you're previous game which was only a single player title came out flawed?
Wouldn't you want to create a new single player game to refine and fix your last mistakes to master what you were going for the first time before jumping into uncharted territories with online, multiplayer and live service which is a completely different beast entirely.
I can't be the only who thinks this right?
Just seems like your setting yourself up for failure in my opinion, you're giving yourself and your team bigger challenges to overcome in an already oversaturated market, a market where live service games made by people who are used to online and multiplayer are even struggling themselves.
It might be good, who knows, but at the moment it just seems they are biting off more than they can chew.
Isarai is completely right. bend already had wanted to do the sequel which is why the one guy stepped down from their studio because he didn't get to. Their marching orders were to do this from Sony.
Phoenix
That doesn't take away from the fact that when this LS fails , that Bend will be dismantled whether Ryan gave the "marching orders" or not.
Though you are right like Isarai said sony wanted 12 live service games asap they have no say in the matter just work for there over lords like isomiac in there marvel slave factory.
honestly having to make marvel games isn't so bad, there's a diverse lineup of characters to choose from. what's really bad about it is that they have to consult with sweet baby inc about political crap to add to their games or take away from it
@pho
Its not making marvel games its about the leak were even into mid ps6 we wil still be getting spiderman/wolverine from a dev studio that once did infamous and of course the ratchet games.
But no everyday they go to work on 2 ips for the next 8+years
Yup as others mentioned, not up to them.
My only hope now is for Bend to hold on & make it to a time & state that will allow them to properly start working on Days Gone 2.
They just see their competitors profits and want to replicate. They ask all these studios to do something they've never done before and the results are exactly as you would expect (lacking). This has been happening for a decade in the industry. Dice and Battlefront/Battlefield are the best example.
I full expect to see this game announced at SGF.
It's definitely not Days Gone 2 it's a new LS IP. Hope it looks and plays good.
Yup I feel the same. I am never buying into LS crap, no matter how good the game is supposed to be.
If they drop it at 39.99 and a progression system that isn't entirely bogged down by MTX like Helldivers 2 they could have something in general moving forward. However I fell like HD2 may just be an exception to the rule.
You knew for a long time that Days Gone 2 wasn´t coming.
Your outrage makes no sense.
Even if it is, my question is who is going to play all these live service games constantly? Doesn't matter if they are all Helldivers 2 quality, there is only so much time and people tend to dedicate themselves to maybe a couple of service games at a time ( if that ).
Well...yes. however, once you're more or less topped off on one you really only go back for the updates. Or in some cases even once a season starts.
Couldn't care less if it was, I wouldn't be buying it either way. LS is an instant deal breaker for me.
"Couldn't care less if it was, I wouldn't be buying it either way. LS is an instant deal breaker for me."
And Sony couldn´t care less about you or your feelings.
That’s the thing. Why does Helldivers 2 get praised but then this has everyone doomin’ and gloomin’? If we start getting GaaS as a majority of releases people don’t have anyone to blame but themselves for opening this door. I hope most of these GaaS games fail so we can get back to traditional games.
I always ask this question: Why do publishers choose to develop a game with a GaaS design vs just making a traditional game? There’s only one answer and it’s all centered around continual monetization with a dev budget spread thin over many years.
"If we start getting GaaS as a majority of releases people don’t have anyone to blame but themselves for opening this door. I hope most of these GaaS games fail so we can get back to traditional games."
In Sony's case if these LS games fail, major lay offs, studio down sizes and even possible studios shut downs (worse case)
I said this already but if these LS games fail it won't be a glamorous as going back to what they do best. There will be casualties and slow production, shifts and changes. If they succeed, they can make traditional SP games while supporting the LS game. That's the best case scenario.
Buy Bends new game if it looks good, plays good and fun. If it doesn't then don't buy it, no need to force yourself for some agenda.
I think Bends game is releasing next year tbh. I think it's closer than we think.
History says probably not. Almost every live service game fails. Realistically if HD2 is successful the other games likely won't be. Traditionally people dont jump from live service to live service. They find one game they really click with and invest their time and/or money into that.
Guerrilla Games' upcoming multiplayer Horizon title could be dubbed "Hunters Gathering," according to a new leak.
I wish PlayStation Studios would just stick to what they do best, making great single player games.
The core gameplay of Horizon is really good, so this is one of the few I can see working out. Also GG does have one of the greatest multiplayer games ever made in Killzone 2 under their belt so MP isn't too far off with what GG does best.
Hell, I enjoyed Shadowfall's MP thoroughly even though it had issues. Guerrilla have delivered solid multiplayer experiences.
Oh boy. No idea why they don't want to work on a killzone it's a much more fun multi mode. -
@Jin_Sakai First. As a business, you don’t just stick to what you do great. If that was the case, Apple would of just done computers and not taken a risk with iTunes and the iPhone. Also have you seen the cost of their AAA games like Spiderman 2? Sony is going to need one of these GAAS games to hit, or expect budget cuts to their SP games. We’re already seeing in the document leak, that they’re asking Insomniac to cut budgets.
Their studios aren’t masters at GaaS and it’s showing. Naughty Dog wasted all that time and Resources just to cancel Factions and Insomniac's multiplayer Spider-Verse got axed. If Sony really wants a big GaaS hit their best bet would be to acquire EA or Epic Games. You need huge support to keep these games going with content and updates.
OHH GOD YES,, or at least some new shooter. finals was okay but I want more, spesh from 1st party
It’s been over a year since the launch of Guerrilla’s Horizon Forbidden West, and we’d like to share an update on our Aloy’s Forest project with you. This initiative is part of our commitment to the United Nations Playing for the Planet Alliance, supported by UN-REDD, to raise awareness on biodiversity.
Oh sure… yeah, totally what I think of when I’m busy entertaining myself by gaming and breaking away from the norm mainline of highly profitable / incentivized concerns in the world
I just want my DINOS!!!!
2016 is going to be amazing
Looks like 2016 is the year of PlayStation:
Uncharted 4 A Thief's End
Horizon
Sony Bend's New Ip (Maybe)
Street Fighter V
Gran Turismo 7
Ratchet & Clank
MLB 16 The Show
Wow 2016 is going to be amazing! I can't freaking wait.
Oh yeah ! Bring the hype ! I'm going to reach the sky of hype.