Sucker Punch Has “Big Ambitions” For New PS4 Exclusive, Aims for “Jaw-Dropping Character Visuals”

inFAMOUS: Second Son was probably the first game that made people really appreciate graphics of the current generation of consoles, but Sucker Punch, that is currently known to be working on a new PS4 exclusive, wants to push the envelope even further

[Thatguy-310]

Im hoping its a new ip

[Abriael]

I'd be ok with either to be honest. Tho, from what we've heard so far, I'm inclined to think it's just a new infamous.

[BitbyDeath]

As long as inFamous isn't just more of the same then i'm good for a new one. They need to start going into a lot more detail though like GTA games IMO.

[Abriael]

@BitbyDeath: ultimately it's a very different game from GTA, the detail is in the superpowers and abilities.

Ultimately, how many good superhero games are there, besides infamous?

[lelo2play]

@Abriael
"Ultimately, how many good superhero games are there, besides infamous?"

Batman... and the LEGO superhero franchise :-)

[Abriael]

@lelo2play: that's one. I'd say there's plenty space for more.

(besides, Batman is a VERY different kind of superhero).

[pivotplease]

Very different though in that bat man is like a stealth/brawler and infamous focuses on explosive superpowers. I always considered bat man more of a hero than a "super" hero because he's far more grounded.

[BitbyDeath]

I just mean in terms of detail.
You don't need to drive cars or anything but adding a bit more life to the civilians or adding in some wildlife or even let you get more destructive with your powers by blowing up buildings/fauna when you become god-like.

There is a lot more they can delve into that won't take away from the game.

[Stsonic]

Still to this day Killzone Shadow fall is the game that made me appreciate the graphical power the ps4 has. The strange thing about killzone is some levels look far greater than others, its like playing two different games in the campaign.

Infamous has excellent character models but overall not as good as killzone.

[bouzebbal]

inFamous has a lot of potential, i don't mind another episode.

[mikeslemonade]

Infamous Second Son already had jaw dropping visuals when it came out.

The stupid gamer community gave it the wrong score, an 80 meta. It's another example in the list of wrong meta scores.

[UltraNova]

Stsonic,

I'm inclined to agree with you but I would be wrong too, even though I too, thought KZSF was looking better when I first played IFSS. Why? Because one is a tight FPS and the other an open world game.

With that said, for Infamous to even get close to KZSF's visuals is undeniable proof that Sucker Punch have what it takes steal the show from Guerrilla! If Guerrilla doesn't kill it with Horizon that is....

[SmielmaN]

I would be perfectly fine with another infamous. All those games are awesome IMO.

[subtenko]

Welcome back Sucker Punch.

[lelo2play]

Maybe Sucker Punch should worry about making a better game (with better gameplay and better story), instead of worrying about great graphics. Their last game Infamous Second Son, wasn't that great.

As for their new game, hope it's a new IP. Let Infamous rest for awhile.

@WeAreLegion
"But it's one of the most fun games in years."
Infamous Second Son is repetitive as hell with a lame story. If you find that fun, then good for you.

[WeAreLegion]

But it's one of the most fun games in years.

[itisallaboutps]

I agree with you. I got it off redbox for a week. Payed 7 bucks finished it and didn't regret it.the game looked great, but not enough customization or story

[jznrpg]

For a first year game it was pretty good , could have been more but I enjoyed it.

[-Foxtrot]

I have to agree in a small way

inFAMOUS Second Son is a good game but compared to the past games it's inferior EXCEPT for visuals/graphics. The other games just have that certain spark Second Son didn't have, not top mention it felt a little rushed.

They are an open world studio, graphics isn't something they should have to focus on the most. I felt that was Second Sons problem.

[Crimzon]

Yeah, honestly I'd rather hear about jaw-dropping gameplay than jaw-dropping visuals. Graphics alone just don't cut it.

[Dangiroud]

Go play with your lego games

[remixx116]

Well its not like they aren't great devs, all the sly cooper games and the first 2 infamous games are indicators I guess. Second son I felt was a "we did the best we could with the time we had" kinda thing.

Give them time and we wilk be surprised.

[Testfire]

I haven't played second son, but I hope one day devs will start saying that they're working on ground breaking gameplay rather than visuals. I've had enough of the focus on graphics.

[Flipgeneral]

Agreed..

Besides the visuals, the game felt rushed. Void of any variety, character and substance. What a forgettable experience that was!

[ThanatosDMC]

I hope the gameplay is better than Infamous Second Son.

[pivotplease]

I thoroughly enjoyed the gameplay and the neon powers in particular felt really well balanced and were amazingly fun (this is why I loved first light). What needs work is the content and the variety of content. It felt like there should be more side stuff, more character customization, and less repetition of the same tasks. It would also be cool if they focused on the exploration aspect more by giving you entry to areas if you use the right super power kind of like Zelda.

[ThanatosDMC]

Yeah, im comparing Infamous SS to Infamous 2. Infamous 2 was way more fun and gave you lots of powers. Comet powers was my favorite.

Against Infamous 2, Infamous SS's gameplay was extremely limited.

[tradeitems]

I'm hoping it plays good. Doesn't care much about the graphics. Weren't PS4 players got disappointed with various games such as The Order 1885 lately?

Gaming journalists should stop hyping about graphics and focus more on how a fun a game plays.

[Dangiroud]

Order 1886 was a good game, when u compare it with broken games like assassin creed or cod who no matter how many bugs or how little gameplay changes they make year in year out,they still get get 8 or 9 out of 10
LMAO

[pivotplease]

Man AC is so boring. Bought and played one of the games. It was the most repetitive and mundane experience ever. The combat is just terrible and is so easy and dependent on counters that you never feel a sense of tension. The entire game is just an automated formula.

[News4Noobs-]

Nowadays all we hear is "jaw-dropping visuals" but what about jaw dropping gameplay/story -_-
that's the main focus of developers now and that's why we get so many dissapointments.

[_-EDMIX-_]

.....why can't we have both?

Soooo because they didn't tell you about the gameplay, it must be a movie with nothing to do?

Have you considered they are merely just telling you about 1 aspect?

and I don't know what you mean by "focus" the folks making the game look good are not the same ones actually making the gameplay....

No matter how real the game looks, the programmers, directors etc still are in charge of the game play lol.

The game isn't being made by 1 person that can't do 2 things at once you know. A team makes games, not just 1 or 2 dudes (not that can't happen, just that its not typical in terms of game design)

[Lamboomington]

For a moment I thought this was the same RPG that Guerilla games was working on, then I realized it was sucker punch. I guess it could be another Infamous.

If that's the case I just want them to bring back electricity somehow.

[Relientk77]

Nothing against InFamous, but I hope its something new.

[Dangiroud]

They already stated they working on a new franchise

[Harkins1721]

Dont forget exciting gameplay!

[sigfredod]

nope it was the second for me, first was shadow fall

[StormLegend]

I freaking love Infamous! but i hope it's something new.

[jhoward585]

It's very likely that what ever Sucker punch are working on is a new IP.

Personally, I think what ever they're working on is going to have a very dramatic story line.

There were parts in Infamous that had very strong cinematic scenes/moments which stood out more than other parts in the infamous game. Augustine character roles were the most memorable parts in infamous to me.

Well, I'm guessing that SP will take all the good & exciting parts of infamous second son and implement them in their new game.

Another thing, I think current gen games cost too much money to make. The development cost to make a game nowadays isn't enough so some devs have to find other ways to make their money back.

That said, I believe SP next game is going to have DLC in them just like every other game that has recently been released so far.

[masterfox]

Just announce it and release it I will be there to buy it, no need to worry for the quality since I already know is going to be outstanding!

[Palitera]

Please don't forget about gameplay this time.

[WeAreLegion]

You're going to trash inFamous: Second Son's gameplay? Really?

[GreetingsfromCanada]

That was probably it's strongest point behind graphics

[DragoonsScaleLegends]

Sucker Punch making a Superman game would be awesome but it's probably something to do with Infamous.

[Ben Dover]

Wth do you expect them to say otherwise?

"Yea we're kinda hoping for something terrible with outdated graphics and, if possible, a story that's even worse than Twilight."

Every developer tries to raise the bar.

[Summons75]

As long as the gameplay is addictive and immersive first and formost....

I really hate when devs focus more on graphics than gameplay, gameplay is waaaaay more important that graphics.

[AudioEppa]

To yourself and some others maybe, but I much prefer graphics and story to take place over gameplay ever time.

I trust some developers to just keep it simple and only evolve it when necessary, I'm not picky an need the wheel to be changed, i just wanna have fun and lose myself in a video game story that i navigate however it plays out.

If a game does not provide you with enough of your liking, then you're free to stop playing that game or any game by developers who put other things before gameplay and look for something else.

[Summons75]

Gameplay doesn't need to "change the wheel" every time but if you have clunky, unresponsive and unintuitive gameplay then it doesn't matter how amazing your story and graphics are, your game sucks. I'm all for an amazing story but gameplay should always come first then story then music then art design then graphics.

[LazyMinion]

If you prefer graphics and story over gameplay, wouldn't it be better for you to just watch a movie?

[luis_spartano]

I'd love a new Sly Cooper from Sucker Punch, but I know it's almost impossible to happen.

[ShellB]

I bet $5 it's infamous related.

[Abriael]

I'm pretty sure myself.

[mochachino]

What's that Chinese proverb for some games are pretty, some games are good, and some games are good and pretty.

[_LarZen_]

Jaw dropping visuals is always nice. But I guess I'm not the only one who wish for some jaw dropping gameplay?

Something that just blows your mind a little? Been a while now since we got something like that.

[Skankinruby]

'Yawn' people's inability to criticize infamous second son is just laughable. It was a great game, and if any of these people yapping about wanting 'better gameplay' were to be asked to explain themselves you would hear crickets. Delsin had more powers and there were a wider variety of things to do than the first two. Second son was great people will just do anything they can to bring vibes down about something good.

[bleedsoe9mm]

it was a good game and the 3rd best infamous game . i hope its a new ip or they really take their time with the story .

[-Foxtrot]

Stop it...I mean really? It's better then the last two

No...just no

Delsin had more powers...yes but the move set was lacking. All the powers seemed like reskins half the time and only had one or two unique features. I'd rather of had two powers like in inFAMOUS 2 with a shit load of move sets. Look at the power set in the sequel. Not to mention it felt rushed with the concrete feeling incomplete

http://infamous.wikia.com/w...

Second Son doesn't touch that

Delsin was a "seen it all before" character aswell. The type who is arrogant and cocky, he felt like "Nathan Drake with powers". Cole might of been boring for some but at least his development worked into the story.

Then we have the story it's self. There was no twist or anything like the first two. I didn't feel anything towards it. Finding out about Kessler, then John and even Trish's death had meaning. They threw Reggie away in this one, he was a better character then Delsin and he should of been the one with powers instead.

Story length was another problem. Very short compared to the others and the morale missions were lacking. Then you have the lack of different activities.

So yeah, Second Son is a good game but it's criticized for a reason. It falls flat on it's face compared to the first two. The only thing it did miles better was graphics ans visuals....maybe music but that's debatable.

[BitbyDeath]

I'd rather they went the other way and had lots of different powers without the subsets.

Like if I got lightning, then I don't care about a subset of lightning grenades or sniping, just give the lightning and overtime let me throw out mass electrical storms or maybe even EMP the place.

They could then have other powers such as running fast or even flying that evolve over time with speed and endurance.

That Hurricane in I2 was brilliant, we need more evolution's like that and less repetitive move sets.

MP could also be a blast then with everyone having different movesets and evolving during gameplay.

[-Foxtrot]

Having too many powers will just make the character seem overpowed.

It's why I don't want to see Delsin again, the more powers he get the more OP he's going to seem

It's why it makes a lot of sense if they made Delsin the real Beast and go off the evil ending. Shaking all those hands from the conduits he's set free would make him very powerful and with his state of mind in the end could end up being humanities greatest threat. It would tie perfectly into the overall story.

@Skankinruby

Really you don't like the past games because of what they offered. God no wonder your defending this...you obviously don't like what inFAMOUS started out as. Sorry but that's the game we got and if like this more "simple" game then I'm sorry but obviously if you don't like what it's supposed to be and started off as then you won't understand the criticisms.

Problem with today...people always wanted grounded superhero stories.

[Skankinruby]

How is finding out how many different ways you can throw lightning at someone unique? Most of them ended up being tedious more than anything and side missions had to be designed just to justify their existence. And the story was trash, especially the first one. Kessler is just Cole from the past? Like time travel? That's just corny and completely grasping at straws. Infamous did one thing right, it was a footprint for better things to come and started a unique franchise that stood out from all the generic crap last gen. But gimme a break just say you like the first one better and leave it at that because you didn't support anything else you were saying.

[BitbyDeath]

'Having too many powers will just make the character seem overpowed.'

I have no problem with this. Feeling overpowered in a Superhero game should be a thing... IMO

I'm sure they can balance it out a bit with hybrids or something. But being able to bring everything to ruins if your evil would be a lot of fun.

EDIT: Should mention not feeling OP through the whole game, just near the end after you really start to power up.

[Skankinruby]

I never said the first two sucked, i never even said i liked second son better, i was simply defending it because im constantly seeing people on these posts labeling it a letdown without ever explaining themselves. Considering that the main character in the known story was dead, sucker punch had a lot of pressure to create something that didn't just seem like a desperate double dip and i thought they did an excellent job.

[pivotplease]

I think one and two had the best Gameplay balance in that the moves were well thought out and really complemented each other. Like the shockwave combined with a rocket or sticky grenade was always entertaining. Second sons gameplay wasn't as cohesive but it definitely offered more varied situations. The neon powers stood out from the rest with the slow motion and weak spots and the dashing. Probably my favourite infamous power. It never got as tedious as Cole spamming bolts or grenades or rockets from behind cover.

[Pikminmaniac]

Sucker Punch did put some amazing visuals for the ps4 within its first year with Second son.
Ready at Dawn raised the bar for jaw dropping character visuals with the order. I have hopes that they can achieve, and maybe surpass, that level of quality . Can't wait and see.

[Lamboomington]

if its open world I doubt they can beat The Order.
That game has some really heavy lighting and rendering stuff going on.

[Eyesoftheraven]

I'd like to work on games but I just can't bring myself to work 12 to 18+ hours a day at a computer on very highly criticized inanimate objects. I practiced 3D modeling and very basic animation using 3DS Max at home with some books for a year and realized I'd rather be on my feet dealing with real people outside in the world.

Then again, I've been lucky enough to work on films like Godzilla (2014) under a technical position which called for 18 hours days back to back and that wasn't particularly rewarding either. Shame we have only one short life to live :(

[pwnsmith]

Don't mean to be the voice of dissent, but I'm really hoping it's inFamous 4. In a world where most have abandoned the open world super hero game (R.I.P. Prototype and good Spiderman games), Sucker Punch continues to nail each iteration of inFamous and while Second Son definitely could have been better, now that Sucker Punch has acclimated to the hardware, they have time to focus on innovating rather than iterating this time around. I want at least one more inFamous from them to be honest.

[Rookie_Monster]

Gameplay first. Why Dualshockers keep posting PS exclusives and all their articles, from rumors, pictures in 1080p, job posting. Twitter, and even reviews all headline by glorious graphics this and 1080p that. Com on, Gameplay comes first and please write some real articles about that. Isn't Bloodborne 90 plus metascores a reflection of that aspect while the Order and it's glorious graphics flopped.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

I wouldn't worry about gameplay considering it's been a strong point in the series. It can only get better. Talk about graphics it's all they can do now, and then show gameplay at E3 or another event show.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

These fake Infamous fans asking for better gameplay don't know that gameplay is the strong focus in this game. It's a superhero game for god sake and the series is really fun to play. Second Son was a great and fun game but compared to Infamous 2 it was a letdown. still good.

Infamous 3 needs to happen. Either this is a new IP or a new entry to the inFAMOUS series, I'll be happy.

[Last_Boss]

Aim for good game, and I'm good.

[SilentNegotiator]

Here come the trolls with the "good graphics means that gameplay is neglected" crap...and of course most of them are fanboys of a certain not-Ps4 console.

Second Son was the worst in the series, but that isn't saying much. It was still a great game.

[AstroCyborg]

i have both & thats pretty much a fact look at the jaw dropping games this gen exclusive wise in the order,infamous & ryse all lacking where other games not about graphics bloodborne,sunset overdrive,dead rising 3 are amazing on the other hand

[AstroCyborg]

i'd rather have a better story & great side missions

[shmeedy24685]

I love Naughty Dog but I really couldn't get into The Last of Us. I let my friend borrow my copy on PS4, so when I get it back I'll give it another try.

[Germany7]

Infamous, Sly Cooper or a new IP.
Every possibility it's great.

[benji101]

I hope they make a game that does not end with half the team being laid off upon completion.

[crazytechfanatic]

Why is there an article about job listings? Are you on acid?

[RogueStatus28]

Hopefully the gameplay will be as exciting as Infamous was.

[Hayabusa 117]

Gosh, I hope not.

[MilkMan]

Where the games bro!

[lildudexst]

Man the last game was fun and chill. Can't wait to see there new ip project. Sony got them guys busy hey money don't stop