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Bloodborne Item Duplication Divides Players On Gaming Morality

Glitches in Bloodorne have some players furious while others are thrilled.

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-Foxtrot3303d ago

I only really exploit things like this on my second play through when I've done everything myself in the first run through.

Least then you can have some fun and not having it spoilt for you.

Snookies123303d ago

Yeah, I figured out the werewolf trick in the first area by myself. So I used it to gain some echoes fairly easily. I wouldn't go so far as duplicating things though.

HammadTheBeast3303d ago

The werewolf thing was a glitch? Do you mean when you aggro the wolves then go down into the house?

Cause I thought that was fair game since they were bigger and couldn't get through the door, but could still hit me through the wall at times.

Snookies123303d ago

Yeah I just thought of it as a little trick. Plus it doesn't help you much past level 20-25.

mikeslemonade3303d ago

I tried that werewolf trick. It wasn't very effective since they can still hit you through the wall.

If I had the opportunity I would do the glitch so I can duplicate that stone that gets you to more than one weapon that can be level 10. But I'm still just about 20 hours in and not close to finishing.

thorstein3303d ago

When I first opened the gate next to the Yharnum lantern it felt like a true accomplishment. I don't know how using a glitch can make me feel like I've done something.

It is similar with FPS cheaters. Do they really think they are good because they cheat? All that does is make their wins empty.

HammadTheBeast3303d ago

Yeah I quit MW2 on my account after it was hacked to 10th prestige after joining a random modded lobby and everything was locked. The game just wasn't fun anymore.

OmegaShen3303d ago

Hows it similar? You are comparing modders/hackers to a glitch in the game.

Plus there is players that use a killswitch for Bloodborne, so no it isn't similar and don't seem to be able to tell the different.

thorstein3302d ago (Edited 3302d ago )

@Omega,

I learned about the glitch but never used it. That is how it is similar. I chose not to exploit a fault in the coding to make the game easier for me.

Because that would be cheating.

joab7773303d ago

I didn't think they would remove it for a few reasons. They havnt before. And also, this is a huge PS4 exclusive and the 1st From game for many...very daunting. So, it's almost like a choice. Most ppl like me that have played every From game multiple times wouldn't use it until we have beaten it. Or we would use it to explore the boundaries etc. Bit others, could use it as needed instead of rage quitting forever.

Another reason is b/c so many have already done it, and it affects PvP. Which is also a reason to get it under control too.

I have no issues one way or the other b/c I won't be using it for awhile anyway.

I guess one suggestion I would make to From is this. Use dlc to add items to the chalice, like cosmetic items, or the item needed to get weapons to +10. Don't make it easy. Hell, make it very hard, but add it somewhere. At least 3 total, or 2 and we can get 2 more in ng+.

But the Chalice is the perfe t opportunity to add awesome new weapons or items that we could use to keep going. Though, we havnt unlocked all the secrets yet so who knows.

NecotheSergal3303d ago

But we all know people are just gonna, at majority, selfishly exploit the hell out of it so they can just get to level 999 and fight other level 999's and think themselves Gods.

It's just a means of Ego-stroking rather than for fun of all things.

It's just like playing Open Battle.net on Diablo 2. It's 'ALL' Cheaters, ALL people trying to exploit and cheat the most to be the strongest of all cheaters. However, we got no separation of servers from the cheaters to the non-cheaters here.

OB1Biker3303d ago

Well I'm guessing cheaters will have a hard time against non cheaters

NecotheSergal3303d ago

That is the likely scenario, Non-cheaters will have the experience of failing and rising up to the challenge. Cheaters will be used to a cushioned experience. Their mommy-hand-holding ways will show them that those who toughen up and survive are the ones who in the end prevail.

Blasphemy3303d ago

cheating in video games just ruins the exp.

CaptainObvious8783303d ago

The glitch annoys me a little because now the platinum trophy is going to mean a lot less.

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NovusTerminus3303d ago (Edited 3303d ago )

Really, I see no harm in it. I didn't use it until I beat the game, but dupe glitches are largely harmless.

Power level to max? You have no one but other max level players to fight.

Power level to 70? you are just equal to everyone else.

How about they fix the Daughter of Cosmos elevator, or the Wet Nurse's AI to stop her from just doing one attack, or Micolash's AI so he doesn't just stand in the corner and drool on himself.

Or how about they fix the final boss so he doesn't fling himself out of the stage and kill himself!

Letthewookiewin3303d ago

I'm just playing and enjoying at my own pace. Don't need to rush through this game, I only have 1 first time with it. Don't need to cheat, when you have skill and patience.

Snookies123303d ago

Exactly right man! If I beat a game like this, knowing I did something cheap like duplicating things... It'd be a hollow victory. This is the type of game you HAVE to beat on your skill alone. It'll make the reward of finishing it off that much better.

Omnisonne3303d ago

Exactly, much like previous Souls games, it can be an amazing journey (albeit a difficult one) I personally cherish every hard time it gives me, no matter how frustrating. Because it makes the game that much more worth finishing. For the ones cheaping out though, it'll be a much less memorable experience

Eyesoftheraven3303d ago (Edited 3303d ago )

I duped the heck out of my build because I don't have 60+ hours to play straight. I just care to experience the visual and technical art anyway; I never get a sense of accomplishment from beating a game either way, only a sense of lost real life time that could be spent studying science or practicing my professional craft.

I never cheat in PvP settings though, only offline single player.

traumadisaster3303d ago

brutha that was well said. I have a family not class but same difference. There is way to much life to experience than 60+ hours of hackety slashety.

Eidolon3303d ago (Edited 3303d ago )

Well excuuuuse me.

kurruptor3303d ago

This is how I feel as well. I'm not harming anyone doing this, so I don't see how it is immoral. I don't get any advantage over another player (I don't pvp anyway) since they only match you against similar players.

Toon_Link3303d ago

You seem to take your hobby too seriously.

nix3303d ago

Me too. My work takes too much of my energies..

I still am shit as scared every time I'm exploring new places.. So feeling is still there except i die less.

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The 7 Best Souls-Like Games - Mastering the Challenge

The Souls-like genre remains popular, along with FromSoftware's classics there are many contenders. But which are the best Souls-like games?

toxic-inferno14d ago

Hmm... In my opinion, the 7 best are the 6 made by FromSoftware (DeS, DS1, DS2, DS3, BB and ER), then Lies of P. But each to their own.

kevco3314d ago

Still DS1? You don't feel it's been surpassed yet?

Demon's Souls has the remake of course, but DS1 has surely been outdated?

Smellsforfree14d ago

I think that the DS1 remake is better looking than DS2. The interior lighting matched with the low resolution textures in DS2 is very garish, IMO.

Besides graphics, what do you mean by DS1 being "outdated"? I'm someone who played through Elden Ring and just recently played through the DS series, and as far as gameplay went, there were all very similar.

Cacabunga14d ago

I haven’t played many but Bloodborne and NIOH1 are on top of my list.. had a blast with these 2

toxic-inferno14d ago

For world design and interconnectedness (that's a word, right?) DS1 is yet to be beaten.

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9 Years Later, Does Bloodborne Deserve All The Praise It Gets?

Saad from eXputer: "Almost a decade later, it's time to take the nostalgia goggles off and accept that Bloodborne has long been surpassed by its successors."

jznrpg16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

Yes, yes it does. It’s still a great game. Elden Ring isn’t better just different and a bit easier . I like that you have to be aggressive but smart in Bloodborne

thorstein16d ago

I literally replayed it recently and it's better than I remember. I think it's like going back to a beloved book and noticing things I hadn't before.

raWfodog16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

Yo! I was getting ready to reply with the exact same four words you started with lol. Yes, I think Bloodborne has withstood the test of time and remains a great game. That’s why all the fans are hoping for a sequel someday. Hoping that we can catch that magic again with a new storyline.

Leeroyw16d ago

Yes. Just replayed it a few days ago. My first Platinum. And yes. I rage quitted so many times and called it BS too when I started. It's tight. The combat is amazing and the lore is rich.

GamingSinceForever15d ago

Elden Ring was easier? I don’t know about that at all. I remember leveling up in Bloodborne and breezing through it. In Elden Ring no matter how powerful I got I was still catching a beat down from every boss.

thorstein15d ago

That's due to scaling enemies. I remember not doing Haligtree untill near the end and having enemies withstand almost a full blast from Azur's Glintstone Staff Comet Azure. My level was quite high.

Melee characters are not fun in that game, especially for the Elden Beast.

MeteorPanda16d ago

Considering l did a run 2 months ago? Yes.

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Bloodborne's Potential Remaster Continues To Be Sony's Biggest Missed Opportunity

"Sony is missing out on a hugely profitable opportunity by ignoring fan demands for a Bloodborne remaster and PC port," says Ahmed from eXputer.

thorstein44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

Bloodborne came out on the PS4. It is owned by From Software. What missed opportunity? I am sure the people at From Software know what they are doing. Especially since they are hiring devs instead of laying them off.

Maybe do an article about that instead of writing a hit piece on them acting like they don't know how to run their business.

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-Foxtrot44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

To be fair Hidetaka Miyazaki said in an interview

“Unfortunately, and I’ve said this in other interviews, it’s not in my place to talk about Bloodborne specifically. We simply don’t own the IP at FromSoftware.”

So the ball kind of is in Sonys court, it feels like a missed opportunity because it’s something people really want and Sony just hasn’t really been bothered to get it off the ground. There was rumours it was at one point but it all went silent.

Cacabunga43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

Sony has been missing nothing but opportunities for a few years now.. since GOW release, it’s worrying silence we’ve been getting..

As for Bloodborne, imo it would be too soon to release it because PS4 game still looks phenomenal..

Bloodborne REMAKE I think will be PS6 launch title by Bluepoint. I truly hope so! 2 gens later we can get the same wow effect as Demons Souls.

Eonjay43d ago

He is right because it is Sonys IP but a little further back he also explained that they only work on one game at a time. This means that From must also be available. In other words it could already be in the pipeline. Ecen if that is the case, it's still up to Sony to reveal it when they are ready. As ever, I prefer not to hear about it until it's about 3 to 6 months from releasing.

CrashMania44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

'Bloodborne came out on the PS4. It is owned by From Software'

Actually Sony owns the IP, same with Demon's Souls. I think they'd prefer if From did the work on any future of both of those though, but if Sony wanted to they could have those off to anyone else to work on them, like the DS remake.

thorstein44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

Yeah. Thanks for the info.

But I still think that remasters should wait a generation. And Blue Point did Demon's Souls which was superb.

It can be a huge risk. And I think Hidetaka Miyazaki hinted that it would be a PS6 title. I don't he has no say in what happens, it's a partnership.

--Onilink--43d ago

To be honest, if there is a remake/remaster (not that it needs one) I would prefer someone else to handle it, like they did with Demon Souls

From many perspectives From Soft is an amazing developer, BUT, on a technical level they are far from impressive, both in terms of dated visuals (again, on a technical level, not art/design) and usually poor performance.

And what is the point of a remake/remaster if not to provide a visual and performance enhancement to a game that already nailed the rest?

Michiel198943d ago

@thorstein what huge risk? Part of one of the most well known ip's in gaming nowadays, there's not much risk there when it comes to a remake.

thorstein42d ago

@Michiel

I meant remasters in general are a huge risk, not Bloodborne.

Bloodborne isn't, but I think it's going to be on PS6, like how Demon's Souls went from PS3 to PS5.

Sorry for the confusion.

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thesoftware73043d ago (Edited 43d ago )

Thorstein,

Wow, your post seems angry..relax it's an opinion.

And btw, it is on Sony, they have the exclusive right to the game, on top of that, they could have easily, at bare minimum, offered an official 60fps patch, with a few extras and charged people $10 to upgrade or $30-40 for new buyers.

I believe I saw an interview where , FromSoft said it was all up to Sony on a sequel and other dealing with the game.

A "hit peice", that serious huh?..relax lol.

thorstein43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

Wow you seem angry. I responded to crash 2 days ago about the remaster and who did it.

Why do you care what other people think in a moment about some journalism. Calm down, buddy, it's just my opinion. From 3 days ago.

Edit: I just went back through my comments and found 2 where I call out the author in the past month. Wow, I'm a rageaholic.

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potatoseal44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

It will be a launch title on PS6 just like the remake of Demon's Souls for PS5 launch

OhReginald43d ago

Sony realizes people will flock to buy ps6s for a bloodborne remake. Easy money.

jznrpg43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

Rumored it’s slated for PS6 launch. Some say PS5 Pro. Who knows ?

P_Bomb43d ago

Highly requested, unfortunately neglected.

jznrpg16d ago

Some say we didn’t need TLOU2 remake but that was a PS4 game and now we need a BB remake but that was a PS4 game. We send mixed signals

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