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God of War 3 Remastered PS3 vs. PS4 Screenshot Comparison

GearNuke: "Check out how God of War 3 Remastered compares to the PS3 version of the game."

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tinynuggins3323d ago (Edited 3323d ago )

These can't be real. They look almost identical.

edit: You do notice it a bit more when you swipe left and right but just staring at the two side by side it's not really that much of a difference. But if you've never played the game before it looks like you're in for a treat.

Jalva3323d ago

That's a 'remaster' for ya!

MasterCornholio3323d ago

I keep people brag about an Uncharted collection or a Gears collection but in the end it will just be a collection of remastered games. No developer will completely remake each game and expect people to pay 40€ for it.

People just have to accept what remasters are heck i didnt see anyone complain about the DarkSouls 2 remaster so why should they complain about this one.

fdkenzo3323d ago

I would love to see an Uncharted collection remastered, probably is the obly game that i want remastered.....

bouzebbal3323d ago (Edited 3323d ago )

PS4 looks better. Better textures and better shadows.
Nothing that'll make me buy it since i already got the game on PS3 but it's a pretty sweet upgrade for the newcomers
probably 1080p 60fps

crxss3323d ago

Gow3 already looked amazing on PS3, hard to make it look any better without reskinning the models

OB1Biker3323d ago

'I dreamed of it, Sony did it'
lol seriously that's the one remastered I really wanted as I haven't played it...yet

XBLSkull3323d ago (Edited 3323d ago )

Dear SSM, thinking about doing a remaster? See: Halo Master Chief Collection

That really is poor, I doubt those are real comparison shots. If they are real and at a $40 price point, they have some explaining to do...

Ron_Danger3323d ago

@xblskull

So they should release a game where the main draw to it is glitched and doesn't work for over 100 days??

sonarus3323d ago (Edited 3323d ago )

This is a lil lame. Would make sense if they did GOW1-3 remastered for 60 bucks i would purchase that. I'll pass on this.

starchild3323d ago

I wish they remastered God of War Ascension, since I never got around to playing the whole game.

ABizzel13323d ago

I understand it's harder porting PS3 exclusives, but at least triple or quadruple the foliage density, texture quality, lighting, and particle effects so that the game can have a decent graphics upgrade.

1080p @ a better framerate is a given, photo-mode is nice as always, but for $40 I need more.

I'll be waiting until it's price gets cut in half before I even consider the purchase. Love God of War, don't love rushed remasters.

If you're not at the level of God of War Saga, Metal Gear Solid Legacy Collection, or Halo: MCC then you will never get a full price purchase from me.

jmac533323d ago

@xblskull - Dear SSM, please don't see Master Chief Collection on how to do a remaster. I want my game to work when it launches.

Lamboomington3323d ago

Well, The Homeworld and Homeworld 2 remaster was particulartly good. They overhauled so much of it. The visuals got a complete overhaul

guitarded773322d ago

They're feed screens, not official screenshots, so there's that to consider... I'm not justifying it as I think I'm burned out on remasters, but just saying these should be taken with a grain of salt. That said, I'm glad they're finally getting that remasters don't deserve a full $60 retail price. The new-gen is a year and a half in, so they can't milk gamers like they could when the systems were brand new. All remasters should have been $40 from the start (I know some were, but I'm talking about those that weren't).

bouzebbal3322d ago

@XBLSkull:
Halo HD is a good thing....on paper when it first got announced.
It just became one of the worst remasters to date due to the online issues.
Which issues? Of course you don't have the single problem with it everything worked perfectly for you.
One of the best remasters is TLoU, like it or not.

ChronoJoe3322d ago

The differences become much more apparent when you load up the direct feed shots, in their native resolution.

http://i1.wp.com/gearnuke.c...

http://i1.wp.com/gearnuke.c...

The PS4 version has vastly higher native resolution, as well as higher resolution of the individual textures, leading to a much higher quality presentation overall. In the PS3 version, most of the assets that aren't 'in focus' are very low resolution, those especially stand out as being drastically improved on the PS4.

These probably aren't the best screens for comparison either, since they're unlikely to re-skin the bosses and character models. Most of the differences will probably reflect themselves in environmental detail.

gedapeleda3322d ago

these games already look great, I don't think they need remasters.

flankhim3322d ago

Need socom 2 remastered online!

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s8anicslayer3323d ago

Those pictures are just a reminder of how beautiful GOW III was on PS3...simply amazing!

Dir_en_grey3323d ago

Yes the PS3 is indeed a wonderful machine, too bad these trolly down voters still hold a grudge.

Lamboomington3323d ago

PS exclusives have always looked fantastic. I mean, just look at Uncharted 2.
It's a mixture of tech power and just brilliant artistic ability. They know what to do and where to do it, and how to utilize the machines power.

Also, we often underestimate how important polish is when it comes to graphics. Makes such a difference.

starchild3322d ago

@Lamboomington

Great comment. I agree, good graphics tech + good art + polish is the recipe for amazing looking games. All three of those aspects are important.

FullmetalAlchemist3323d ago

I think they took screen shots of the youtube video

Ch1d0r13322d ago

Yup they look horrible. I swear the PS3 ones look better on my TV than the screenshots they took.

AngelicIceDiamond3323d ago

I was just thinking they look very identical. Santa Monica really, really pushed the PS3.

God Of War till this day is one of the most graphically impressive PS3 titles.

Its kinda hard to top despite PS4 being way more powerful.

OpenGL3323d ago

It also doesn't help that textures, models, and shaders are exactly the same.

They should have bundled God of War 3 with Ascension, which looks even better.

MrSec843323d ago

@OpenGL there's a clear improvement in all areas of the PS4 release, the PS3 game still looks amazing, but there's no way the PS3 game could be mistaken for the PS4 title.

Christopher3323d ago

*They look almost identical. *

Completely disagree. If they looked identical, I wouldn't notice which is which. And, it's very easy to tell which is which.

Having said that, still not worth the port, IMHO. Just graphical enhancements. I liked it when it was on PS3, don't see a reason to spend another $40 for a prettier version of the same thing.

Seriously disappointed that this is all they're doing. Not even the full series in 1080p60fps, just one game... And at $40? Not worth it. Sony is doing us wrong on this one, IMHO.

deadpoolio3163323d ago

You do know that your not forced to purchase this right? Nobody comes over to your house and puts a gun to your head....

Christopher3323d ago

#deadpoolio316: Where did I say anyone was? Doesn't make what I said any less true.

Jughead34163323d ago (Edited 3323d ago )

It's crazy to me how people are never satisfied. Gamers are like spoiled babies. You get a remaster of an all time classic, and you ask why not the entire series. Do you know much many hours and resources have to go into this, outside of their main project? Be grateful for what you get. A day ago we knew nothing about this, now that it's out, it's like gimme more

Petebloodyonion3323d ago

Yeah exactly 10 hours or marketing,
5 hours to make the game work and incorporating features from the new video card.
25 hours talking to the media about how they really push the ps4 and this game is now so incredible and it should be considered AAA gaming for 2015 and it's 40$ price tag is justified.

Here's some other tidbits
number of new polygon in screen: 0
number of new object in the screen or enemies: 0
Number of new chapters or included DLC: 0

More tidbit
Cost of starting good old Quake2 on PC and select 1920 X 1080P in settings 0$
And voila a Free ps4 remastered title with prime resolution with 60 frame sec (and i'm sure you can download a texture pack somewhere).

HammadTheBeast3323d ago

This is literally nothing more than a very very slight upgrade. Not worth more than $20.

FullmetalRoyale3323d ago

I am a consumer, not a pet. I will not simply wag my tail and beg for what they want to give me. I want what I want. They do not have to give it to me, unless they want my money.

jambola3323d ago

??
Who asked for the entire series?
and why are gamers "babies" because they're not happy with a game that came out a few years ago being released again with a slight visual upgrade?
at least with more than one game it's more justifiable

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CocoWolfie3323d ago

especially if 4 is coming soon :)

NecotheSergal3323d ago

There wasn't really much in terms of flaws in the textures/bitmapping or effects used in the game, everything was quite spectacular for PS3 hardware.

So logically-speaking, the only thing you could do to improve the game further is something that'd not be viewable in mere screenshots. Aka...

The game should be 1080p/60fps, so in MOTION it should look crisper, smooth and awesome. It should have better AA and draw distance. There is nothing to really make it 'Pop out' to look 'even better' outside of those simple upgrades, Resolution, Draw distance and framerate and better AA. So, I suspect that screenshots really will look similar, wait for a 1080p/60fps video comparison to the 720p/30fps PS3 version, THEN people will probably lick their lips.

blackblades3323d ago

I prefer ps2 remaster and psp remaster s you can tell big difference with them.

etownone3322d ago

That's what I'm hoping for.

Gow3 looked great already.

nyctophilia133323d ago

As someone who never owned a PS3, this is exciting for me. But for people who already have the game, I can see them being disappointed in the upgraded graphics.

deadpoolio3163323d ago

That is the entire point....You are exactly who this is made for....Some people don't seem to grasp that you don't actually have to purchase every single thing that gets released...

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Deadlead3323d ago

Disappointing. On the other hand I might buy this if I didn't already have it for my PS3. Also you'd think there'd be more than one game considering all the collections SSM put out last gen like GOW3 and Ascension would have been much more tempting.

ManOfTheYear13323d ago (Edited 3323d ago )

1) Driveclub is a failure
2) The Order is a failure
3) Sony closes Evolution Studios
4) Sony closes MLB14 servers in less then 1 year
5) Sony "remasters" a SINGLE God Of War title and charges $40 for something that doesn't even look "remastered" and call it "fan service" instead of releasing the whole series for $60 and actually giving "fan service"....

Oh ya

6) Deep Down have issue after issue where we may never get a NA release...let alone IF it ever does release.

For The Gamers....

slappy5083322d ago

If Microsoft does indeed release a gears collection, then Xbox GoW>Ps4 GoW

tjg593322d ago

The order wasn't a failure to me

kurruptor3322d ago

Driveclub failure? Hahaha. Rocky launch yes. But it was addressed and is excellent. New IP smashed Microsoft's oh so great Forza games in sales.

Order was a technical masterpiece by a studio new to consoles. Can't wait for the sequel.

Studios close all the time.

I won't defend MLB servers shutting down, that is pretty shitty.

When God of War 3 has massive sales, we'll see the fans real opinion.

Deep Down has never been announced to have a NA release. Nor a release date, so what are you talking about?

ManOfTheYear13322d ago (Edited 3322d ago )

@kurruptor

"New IP smashed Microsoft's oh so great Forza games in sales."

Prove it.

Primal3322d ago

Well aren't you a ray of of sunshine :)

gamerfan1283322d ago (Edited 3322d ago )

Driveclub and The Order were SUCCESSFUL in both sales and with gamers.

Sony did not close Evolution Studios, it recently had a small number of layoffs which is normal after a big project in the game industry.

They are only closing the European MLB 14 servers because almost nobody uses them. The NA servers will remain open.

God of War 3 has a huge improvement going from 720 30 to 1080 60 and many PS4 owners that never owned a PS3 will buy and love it, just like The Last of Us Remastered.

Deep Down is a Capcom title and has NOTHING to do with Sony.

All you do is spread sick, blind, evil lies and hatred about Sony and Playstation.

Playstation 4 is extremely successful with 20+ million units sold to very satisfied gamers. Your sick and evil hated and mockery of "for the gamers" means nothing.

ManOfTheYear13321d ago

@Gamerfan128

Yes DriveClub was so successful Sony closed the studio down within 6 months of DriveClubs release because thats how you creat a long lasting franchise to cater to the high demand....

The Order was a success? LMFAO I love the defending for a game that had no coop, no multiplayer, no game modes, no leveling system, 4 hours long with chapters that are nothing but a cutscene, full of QTE'S and as if that wasn't bad enougb the devs recycled the exact same boss final fight from chapter 4....

Sorry, but its down right crazy to defend such a low qual8ty of game. If you support mediocracy then that is all you will continue to get.

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kevnb3323d ago (Edited 3323d ago )

its a port, higher res and better performance only. you might not notice on a smaller or lower res screen, or even if you didnt fullsize the screens.
But I think they should just drop the remaster marketing term, otherwise we should start calling every game ported to pc a remaster... going back to even the ps1 days.

solid_snake36563323d ago

I wish they just start focusing on current gen games.

Muzikguy3322d ago

I'm thinking this is to get some quick cash for a future project. Since it's not that big of an upgrade, I doubt it took a lot of manpower

xTheMercenary_3323d ago

I'd say they just bumped up the resolution to 1080p made it a consistent 60 fps and added better lighting, it might be very hard to see but the colours are slightly better on the ps4.

kingduqc3322d ago

buying a game twice for a res bump.. lel consoles

Locknuts3322d ago

Don't be surprised. The PS4 is so underpowered it's only really good for PS3 games at 1080p/60fps.

UKmilitia3322d ago

lets be honest though it looked amazing on ps3 and it was one of those games that made me wow constantly.

but i agree the improivement doenst seem much at first glance.

Ka7be3322d ago (Edited 3322d ago )

These look identical to you?

PS3
http://i1.wp.com/gearnuke.c...

PS4
http://i1.wp.com/gearnuke.c...

For people who never played GOW3 remasterd is a great idea. 1080p 60fps.

Apollosupreme3322d ago (Edited 3322d ago )

It's a remastered. It's not a remake. They don't need to look vastly different, do they?

JsonHenry3322d ago

So just a resolution increase? Its hard to tell anything else by this comparison as the shadows/lighting all looks to the be the same and there are no particle effects showing to speak of.

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MasterCornholio3323d ago

Well it does what a remaster should do.

It looks sharper and im pretty sure the framerate will be better.

polow got sol3323d ago

Sony should have included the other 2 with remade graphics like the MCC. What a lazy company.

fanboysmackdown3323d ago

Looked good on PS3 but this does look real good, nice upgrade.

GMR_PR3323d ago

What upgrade? except for the better resolution I don't see anything else different.

Christopher3323d ago

Wait... upgrading resolution is not an upgrade?

I'm confused here.

GMR_PR3323d ago

Yes it is! I guess what i meant was that besides resolution they are not upgrading anything else, but you are right better resolution is an upgrade.

Christopher3323d ago

I would agree with you on that then, mostly. It is getting upped to 60fps, but it was designed with 30fps for gameplay so I'm not sure how much better that will be.

But, yeah, without putting all the games over the last 14 years in one big remaster (a la MCC for lack of a better reference), I'm confused why they're doing this. And at $40? That's just robbery, IMHO.

kevnb3323d ago (Edited 3323d ago )

it wasnt capped at 30 fps or designed for 30 fps, it was variable and capped at 60 fps on ps3. It was mostly in the 40s during gameplay though. https://www.youtube.com/wat...

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Silly gameAr3323d ago

People disagreeing (sour grapes) but yes it is a nice upgrade. I can't wait to get this and plat it again. I hope a new GOW game is announced very soon and this remaster is a refresher for it.

BallsEye3323d ago

just bumped up res which can be done with change of 1 line in a code. Seriously...another lazy remaster by sony.
Please take exaple of Master Chief Collection. 4 full co-op campaigns in 1 package (2 of them having complete graphics overhaul), 4 multiplayers, over 100 maps, over an hour of one of best CGI ever created (blur studios) and beta of halo 5. This all in 1 game...

Shineon3323d ago

I love this gen! We are getting so many remasters it's just awesome!What will they remake next???

Master-H3323d ago

I know you're being sarcastic and all, but I'd really, REALLY love a remastered/remade collection of Tenchu games while we're on the subject.

OT: Personally I don't really care for this one, as I already have it on ps3, and it's not like it has new DLC or anything. Now If it had Ascencion too on disc I might have been interested since I skipped that one.

starchild3323d ago

Ah, yes, Tenchu series remastered would be a dream come true for me.

Clogmaster3323d ago

I'm still waiting for Dragon's Dogma Remaster.

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Video Chums Top 10 Remasters on PlayStation Plus

"There are new PlayStation Plus tiers and I've been enjoying many remasters after subscribing to Premium so here are my 10 favourites." - A.J. Maciejewski from Video Chums

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PlayStation Store Games Under $15 Sale: Over 400 Games Under $15

Daily Video Game writes: "PlayStation Store has just launched another new digital game sale that has over 400 games under $15, including many AAA games titled "Games Under $15 Sale" for PlayStation 5 and PlayStation 4 gamers right now!"

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anast686d ago (Edited 686d ago )

Dragon's Dogma and XCOM 2 are the best deals. The rest of the games are still overpriced. I would say 8.99 is good for AC: Origins, but you need to put $10 more into MTs to avoid the grind that slows down the story. So, the game is actually 18.99.

It's not on this list, but Pathfinder: Kingmaker is only $9.99. This is a deal if you have a current gen. consoles, as it runs poorly on prev. gen.

hangdang685d ago

I beat AC origins without grinding or spending any money on MTX?

anast685d ago

I had to grind for side missions. So, did many other people.

HeliosHex685d ago

Has anyone been able to login in to the ps store on ps5 I haven't been able to in days and my network is good.

RedDevils685d ago

Reset or shutdown your PS5. I always can go login to PS5, in fact just a moment ago.

HeliosHex684d ago

Hey thanks again. Although the shutdown/reset didn't work i found that resetting the mdm and hub did the trick. I use a Lan network instead of wifi. In case anyone has a similar setup and problem.

RedDevils684d ago

I forgot to mention about the router reset, that usually do the trick when it come to network problems happen with iphone/android. btw np

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God of War Will Run up to 60FPS With Performance Mode on PS5

Santa Monica have confirmed that God of War (PS4) will run up to 60FPS on PS5 with the performance mode selected. Additionally save transfer for both God of War (PS4) and God of War 3 Remastered will be supported.

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NeoGamer2321276d ago (Edited 1276d ago )

For sure this is awesome. God of War is my favorite Sony franchise! Played every God of War game to date including the remasters and on PSP! Can;t wait for the new game in 2021!

potatoseal1276d ago

God Of War: Ragnarok - 2021

It's enough to make you shed a tear

bouzebbal1276d ago

I'm proud for platinuming every single one of them..
60fps is worth a try.. Can't wait

Skuletor1275d ago

Even God of War: Betrayal?

NeoGamer2321275d ago

@SickSinceSix
OK, not God of War Betrayal. lol.

@bouzebbal
I am not that great at the genre so I have not platinumed any of the games, but I enjoy them nonetheless. I remember chains of olympus as the first game when i purchased a PSP on a 9.5 hour flight to Italy from North America. I still think that PSP was the best portable gaming device I have ever owned.

Army_of_Darkness1275d ago

That's not really impressive considering how the pro can sometimes hit 60fps on performance mode... I want to see 4k mode at 60fps. The ps5 should be more than capable of that.

NealGamby1275d ago

I’ve never played GOW. Maybe I should try it out.

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GamerRN1276d ago (Edited 1276d ago )

I want 60fps in Resolution mode though! That's what I'm holding out for. I want 4k 60 with the graphics cranked up!

I've been waiting to go back and finish this game... I just got past the part where you see the frozen giant and do all that stuff... I want to finish the story!

cell9891276d ago

Whoa easy there let’s wait for the final details on resolution

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1nsomniac1275d ago (Edited 1275d ago )

Love this site. Last gen game only manages to hit up to 60fps on new gen console if run in performance mode.

If it’s an Xbox game it gets ripped apart. If it’s a Sony game it gets gushed over.

I agree with GamerRN I’m not interested in performance mode. This is next gen it should be 60fps in resolution mode!

smashman981275d ago

60 fps was already hit in performance mode on ps4 pro some I'm hoping the same thing.

1nsomniac1275d ago

After a little reading it appears they’re not patching it at all, it’s just running as is. Therefore the games frame rates are capped so it’ll only reach what the engine lets it.

So not sure how this was even news in the first place!

Teflon021275d ago

1n
Not really, I see alot more of the opposite now. Pretty sure it could easily run 60 in performance if it was capped at 60. They'd just have to make sure it has a mode that carried performance mode features and caps 60fps. If the game is updated for PS5 features and such and only runs 1080p60 you'll see ppl complaining. The details on resolution hasn't been out so the assumption is it'll run a good rest if it's updated

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SamTheGamer1276d ago

So basically they said game will on backward compatibility mode and no next gen patch yet.

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darthv721276d ago

Performance mode is a must have nowadays. Since getting the enhanced systems... I cant play any other way (on games that support it)

I_am_Batman1276d ago

The game already had that on PS4 Pro though. It doesn't sound like it'll take advantage of the increased processing power of the PS5 for now.

Nitrowolf21276d ago

only it will be stable rather than jumping between 40to60

I_am_Batman1276d ago

Hopefully. But "Up to 60 FPS" doesn't sound very stable to me. We'll see.

JEECE1276d ago

If it has an unlocked framerate, it should.
I don't like the "up to 60 fps" language either, but I get the impression it is them covering themselves so that no one can take footage of it dropping to 57 in one very specific instance and then do the whole "Sony lied" thing online. Remember the idiotic, "only 100 games will be backward compatible" nonsense, and how long it took for that to die?

FanboySpotter1276d ago

The wording is bothering me. "Up to" ig that's fair since it's not ps5 optimized and only bc.

JEECE1276d ago

Feels like insurance against twitter trolls to me. Because if they say it plays at 60 fps locked, even if that's true 99.99 percent of the time, some nub will record it dropping slightly once, then make a big deal about it.

I_am_Batman1275d ago (Edited 1275d ago )

If it's 99.99% running at 60fps, that's for all intends and purposes as good as locked 60fps. That's generally accepted and I can't remember an example where framedrops this rare ever caused any backlash. I don't think they are worried about a vocal minority of console warriors making a fool of themselves, by claiming otherwise.

I think it's much more likely that they have to lower clocks to guarantee compatibility, which causes it to perform similarly to the PS4 Pro. Another possibility I can think of is that it runs at 60fps boosted most of the time, but some big enough chunks of the game experience framedrops due to some very specific low-level optimisation that is harder for the PS5 hardware to emulate.

It's all speculation though and hopefully we'll find out before launch when the embargo for backwards compatibility lifts.

RonsonPL1276d ago (Edited 1276d ago )

Don't be worried. Be certain
that there's no stable 60fps mode :( if they use words like this. This means it wobbles and is 60fps at times and it's not at times. If we talk about a PS4 game, this is absolutely horrible news.
There's 0,00001% chance it means 60fps 99,9999% and a drop for half a second once per game walkthrough, but first, it's so unlikely I'd say it's impossible, and secondly, if it means drops even in certain rare scenarios like some alpha effects in exlosions (I know, it's God of War. Just using an example) and stable 60fps otherwise, it's still a very bad news, cause it means either the devs are stupid or PS5 doesn't have the power to even run PS4 games at doubled framerate. The stupid dev scenario would require them to go for locked 1440p res or something significantly higher than PS4pro in performance mode, possibly with some unnecesary additional details or quality settings. PS5 should be able to maintain rock solid 60fps in GoW at 1440p. Now I'm scared it's too slow for that.
Backward compatibility mode doesn't matter much as it's like playing the PC game on a faster PC with a different CPU architecture. In the end, you either have the power needed, or you don't.

This also means there will be no rock solid 60fps mode for God Of War 2 or the GoW 2 won't be designed with PS5 in mind. If it's designed around PS4's limits, then it's not totally impossible but uncertain at least.

RonsonPL1276d ago (Edited 1276d ago )

About the performance:
There's a question of how fast the train goes vs. how many waggons it can pull. PS5 optimizations might help adding some stuff but not necessarily allow to process the same amount of objects faster. Even x360 -> Xone meant easy 60fps ports of pastgen games with significant improvements. Now it's not clear by now if we'll even get the same between PS4->PS5 and PS4->Xbox X generation jump.
Whatever the GoW 3 on PS5 will be, I don't think there are any chances for rock solid 60fps mode in that either, especially when raytracing will leave gaps if turned on, if there are not assets prepared for non-Rt lighting. GoW 3 will be PS5 only.
This is a very stupid and it's yet another step in wrong direction in my opinion as I preferred Gow 1-3 60fps and action focused gameplay rather than all that cinematic and narrative stuff which meant a regression in terms of gameplay. Simply put, GoW PS4 is less fun to play than PS2 and PS3 games were for me. By far. It was a Slasher. First they changed it into a TPP game, then poisoned the gameplay even more by abandoning 60fps gameplay (to be fair, I was already disappointed with drops in GoW 3 on PS3, but at least that was default (and only) mode and the game kept 60fps in many places allowing at least to get the feeling and "wow" factor coming with 60fps. And of course the gameplay mechanics were designed around it too, allowing for more variety and more enjoyable gameplay mechanics and visuals.

Sad to see the once great game series ending up like this. I'm sick and tired of "narrative is the only thing that matters!" approach. I wasn't a fan of ND, Insomiac, Sucker Punch, Sony Santa Monica, back in PS2 era because I cared about the stories. I was yelling "those guys are the best!" whenever I played their games because they were super fun to play, with gameplay being the priority, a game made by gamers for gamers. Not by some people who'd rather be in Hollywood, telling stories and who think movies and stories are a higher culture than gaming, who think they are so much better when they make cinematic experiences. And about the last part, "for gamers", it's probably why this comment will get 100 disagree score, but modern gamers often are not aware of what a gameplay oriented game can be, if done by one of those "best of the best" studios. It's because there are almost no such games nowadays. Even my peers tend to forget. PS2 was released 20 years ago.
Just look how many people were surprised how fun DMC 5 is to play.
But you won't get the praise on Twatter if you're just that guy who makes games (you know, that entertainment for nerds). You will get it if your game is reviewed like a movie. What is the character development, what's the story, what quality the narrative and screenplay is. Then you are above that silly gaming stuff. Now you are a serious artist. You are above. You are among those Hollywood hot shots.

Sadly many gamers love movies so much they don't even realize when they're getting robbed from gameplay. Then you see all the high scores for mediocre gameplay games, and 10/10 for GoW even despite the fact its gameplay is not even at 80% of what it could be if the game was focused on it. Yes. I dare to say it: GoW gameplay score is 7/10 or even lower. Same goes for TloU 2, Detroit: Become Human and many others.
None of those games hit that top level of quality for gameplay and fun factor. And just look how it looked back in PS2 era.
ALL of the "god tier" devs delivered gameplay for 9/10 and 10/10. ALL of them.
Now none.
60fps on PS2 vs 30fps on PS4/5 accidentally overlaps with these differences.

MrNinosan1275d ago

Que?
This must’ve been the most silly trollpost I’ve seen on n4g, and that is on a site filled with trolls.

Write a diary about something you like instead man. That might help you get sane.

RonsonPL1275d ago (Edited 1275d ago )

@MrNinosan

OK, Let's take the situation apart.

1. Who presented arguments and an subjective opinion everyone is entitled to?
2. Who wrote a pointless comment just to insult and express disagreement as if the downvote button was not named "disagree"?

Now. Tell me, but honestly. Who's the troll here?

I'm too old for this, seriously. Give me an argument or buzz off.

Harryvok1275d ago

Performance mode in the original had frame rates up to 60fps (that was the cap), but generally hovered around 45fps. 4K mode was locked at a 30fps cap, although it did dip of course. This game isn't getting a patch that changes the modes or resolutions, it's just running in BC mode with the performance mode going up to 60fps and 4K LOCKED to 30fps cap, just as in the original game. It isn't a reflection on the performance of the PS5 at all. It's just running the game as it always way in BC mode with the extra power pushing the performance mode up to its 60fps cap.

Also 'up to' makes sense. It will undoubtedly drop a couple frames here and there. Xbox 360 and Xbox One games with a 60fps cap are still dropping frames here and there in BC mode on the Series X. You're not going to notice a few frames here and there at 60fps.

RonsonPL1275d ago (Edited 1275d ago )

@Harryvok

""Also 'up to' makes sense.""

PS4pro was around 40fps as you mentioned. That's just +50% more raw power required. I understand what you're saying about the compatibility mode, but I disagree. it's not a full emulation, where you could actually make a very valid point that improving the performance by 50% might actually require much more because of the fact you're emulating things.
PS4 had x86 CPU cores and Radeon GCN architecture. PS5 has x86 CPU and a Radeon.
We'll disagree on what you can extrapolate from this, and I cannot be certain either as there's not enough information available yet, but I understand

next

""You're not going to notice a few frames here and there at 60fps.""

That's both 100% true and 100% false. Objectively this is both.

Depends on which display type you're using for gaming and then up to what are your priorities. If you can endure the horrible flicker but you simply are not interested in playing games with broken motion reproduction, then you'll not only notice instantly even drops to 57fps, but the the experience of playing the game will be significantly degraded. It's not possible to explain this without actually showing the game in properly working motion-friendly mode, so maybe this changes your mind and if not, at least makes you willing to allow other points of view as equal and valid: If the flicker is so bad in 60Hz mode, imagine how awesome are the benefits if some people are willing to suffer playing with it.
(and I suffered it gladly while playing God of War on PS2)

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SmokinAces1275d ago

I think people are taking the wording out of context, it just means its select-able up to that number. I'll give you an analogy to hopefully help it make better sense. Say you get in an elevator of a sixty story building, you can choose to go to the thirtieth floor or you can go to the sixtieth floor, if you choose to go "UP TO" the sixtieth floor it doesn't mean you're going to go to the fifty fifth floor and then back down to the fiftieth and then up to the fifty eighth and so on. I dont believe the term implies fluctuation it just represents the highest choice you can go "UP TO". That's just my two cents hope it makes sense, guess we'll just have to wait and see though if that's the case.

UnHoly_One1275d ago

What???

That's a bunch of crap.

It means it runs at 60, but not all the time. That is the ONLY reason to add those words in.

Now it could be that it might hit 59 a couple rare instances, or it could mean that it is mostly 45, but peaks at 60 occasionally, or anywhere in between.

The core of the phrase is that it is absolutely not perfectly locked at 60 at all times.

RonsonPL1275d ago

No. When the game runs at 60, it runs at 60.
When it struggles more often than rare and occasional stuff, like explosions or one boss fight per 20 hour gameplay, then it's called up to 60

Historically, looking at PS4 generation, up to means anything between "almost never" to "a bit" through "half of the time or a bit more than half".

Examples of up to 60fps which were totally NOT 60fps: Tomb Raider (the first new one on PS4). It was up to, but was nowhere near the experience you get from stable 60.
I never ever saw anyone complaining for calling it 60fps when you get a drop once per 5 hours. I call PS2 God Of War game 60fps. This one had some rare drops as well.
Up to means NOT stable 60. Period.

SmokinAces1274d ago

@UnHoly_One

I appreciate your opinion and point of view, I dont appreciate the "bunch of crap" comment, I have no issue with a counter point but it would be nice if it didn't require the hostility. We dont know if that's the only reason for those words, we truly won't know it until an official analysis is done and in the end you might be right but it could very well be a stable and locked 60fps experience as well and that's what I believe it will be and I was just trying to give an analogy as to why I felt that way.

Happy gaming friend.

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