Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End Coming Spring 2016

A note from Directors Bruce Straley and Neil Druckmann

[vishmarx]

noooooooo!!!!!
just take your time and make it the masterpiece it deserves to be.
ND is one of the few devs ill blindly support through the delay.theyve earned that much by making every single game they make worth the wait.
there are plenty of games this year anyways...
not even gonna bother naming them , the list is pretty huge.
no one needs to cram everything into fall just for heck of it.that just leaves the entire remaining year barren

releasing it this year along with mgs 5,witcher 3, battlefront, possibly mass effect would of made the goty awards a bloobath anyways
that being said, sony still needs a biggie for holidays.
fingers crossed for TLGps4 lol.e3 reveal>psx announcement that the game will be available starting ....now!boom!

[TomShoe]

Sorry about reserving this post, I just wanted to make a poignant statement before people start getting upset or cackle that "SONY HAS NOTHING!" I won't lie, I'm disappointed that I won't be able to play Uncharted 4 until next year, but this is for the best. With the slew of AAA disappointments we have been dealing with throughout all of 2014 and leading into 2015. All I want is a game that delivers on the hype the first time.

I remember a Shigeru Miyamoto quote on releasing games before they're ready.

http://www.quickmeme.com/im...

The point is that the "release now, patch later" culture is embedded way too deep in our industry, and we've already had launch disasters like MCC or DC because people were unwilling to wait. Is it so wrong to want to have a game working the first time, like I want my new car to work the first time after I buy it? I would want to take my new Corvette back to the shop for months before it's in working order. If patch culture is unacceptable in consumer products, then it should be unacceptable in gaming. If this delay causes Uncharted 4 to be a better experience as a whole, and gives me even more bang for my buck, then I'll consider it to be well worth the wait.

[VenomUK]

Aaaarghhh!

I've been looking forward to Uncharted 4 for a very long time and all the previews reveal such promise. Of course no one wants to wait longer, but if the developers need more time to make sure the game has that triple-A polish then that's fine by me.

[jackanderson1985]

wasn't that quote years before they could actually do patches and what not? edit: yep it was back in the N64 days way before patches and back then you had the one shot it's either working day one or tough tits the game is forever broken

some companies can't afford to delay (MS because they're getting murdered in the sales needed Halo out last christmas for example)

DC as a game itself was decent from what i recall, the servers were a piece of crap but hell you can only do so much but if the game's more popular than you think it will be then there'll be issues server side.

Also big difference between a car and a game... faulty car will kill you, faulty game will wait a couple of weeks be patched and no harm.... same with other appliances and goods

[UltraNova]

Take all the time you need ND and make the best Uncharted yet!

Plus it doesn't hurt that I can cover some of my back catalog that is so damn long now its not even funny anymore.

[Gazondaily]

Argh no way. This was the biggest PS exclusive of the year. What gives?

Ah well. I'd rather have the best possible version of the game than a rushed disappointment. ND know what they are doing. I'm sure.

[bouzebbal]

it sucks, but does it have to do something with this?
http://www.paradiger.com/ru...
They need to make space for it maybe? Speculation but it can make sense in the end.

[Cindy-rella]

Uncharted 4 seems like itll be day one release on sonys project morpheus. It might be possible because we dont know if project morpheus will have some sort of a computer processing unit to aid the ps4. Anyway , i cant wait for project morpheus and uncharted 4.

[Cupid_Viper_3]

The news of the game being delayed is unfortunate as it adds 6 more months of waiting to eager gamers.

But I must say that I'm shocked at the level of strange questions coming from supposedly the "more informed" group of gamers that are supposed to frequent N4G and online gaming forums. People are running around this thread asking "well if no Uncharted 4, then what else do they have for the Holidays?"

I mean cmon guys, are you folks under hypnosis or something? We're talking about supposedly informed gamers here, who don't seem to know that we get steady streams of games they get every month of this year. Or know what else would come out on the PS4 during the holidays besides Uncharted 4. Honestly, if you're asking "what else does the PS4 have this holiday?" You're either doing some "concerned trolling", or you actually really don't know and therefore the community should really not put much value in what you have to say since you're not as knowledgeable in the first place.

It sucks that they game got delayed, but it might be for several reasons. From possibly a less buggy game, to higher framerates, to implementing VR, to a better story, or gameplay elements. To sit here and pretend not to know what else the PS4 would have besides Uncharted 4 is ludicrous. Here let me help. Especially with E3 and other game shows around the corner.

Here let me help.

BloodBorn
MLB TheShow15
Until Dawn
TearAway Unfolded
Persona 5
Disgaea 5: Alliance of Vengeance
Street Fighter V
Rachet and Clank Redux
PlanetSide 2
Deep Down

Now a few of those games may get pushed back or not, but this is still 10 games from the top of my head and I'm sure there are more. And E3 has yet to happen and we know Sony has many studios working on games.

It's like the joker said : "plenty of games gets delayed, nobody bat an eyelash. Uncharted 4 gets delayed, and everyone loses their minds"

[Gazondaily]

@Cupid

BloodBorne and SF V are the only real stand out titles there for me tbh.

But remember, why are you giys guys ignoring E3? Expect 2015 games to be announced at the show.

[GMR_PR]

WHAT! Noooo... I was so looking forward for this game. Maybe this means 60 FPS, that would be great.

[Kribwalker]

@cupid

Playing the devils advocate here, most of the games u listed there are coming out sooner then later, which like a lot of Sony fans point out about Xbox right now and its "spring exclusive drought" even though it has a handful of good exclusives out over the spring, makes for a Playstation fall exclusive drought. Microsoft has loaded the fall full of games, with what is already known not to mention if they did this year what they did last year and announce a bunch of exclusives that will launch a couple months later at E3.

Most people are talking about a large hole sony needs to fill for exclusives this fall now that uncharted is pushed back. For me this just means I will wait until next year to pick up my PS4, hopefully in an uncharted bundle with a price drop to boot

[chrismichaels04]

Like I said during the Quantum Break article...id rather have a delayed game be good than a rushed game be a buggy mess. We've already had enough games suffer recently from being rushed (ex: Assassins Creed Unity, DriveClub, Halo Master Chief Collection, etc...)

[Christopher]

Why do gamers always worry about games being out at every moment of the year? Don't we just want a good number of games to play every year and be damned if they come out in Spring or Winter? What's with all this "hole filling" when every console producer has holes at some point in the year?

Seriously. It's just silly to see people argue about not getting games spaced out just right, or that someone has big IPs over here and not over here.

Last I checked, they both have games and we're all going to get to play them at some point in time. Yay?

[Kingthrash360]

Woke up.
seen this.
slapped self to confirm i was really awake and that it wasn't a dream/nightmare.
ice on face.
slapped face home alone style when figured spring 16 is a year away.
wrote this comment.
...is how my day went so far.
God knows how worse it will get.
i just hope we dont have 2014 all over again..delay after delay.

[k3rn3ll]

I just cant believe so many people actually thought this game was going to be 2015. I never accepted that as fact and knew that that would make that game extremely hurried

[Christopher]

***I just cant believe so many people actually thought this game was going to be 2015. I never accepted that as fact and knew that that would make that game extremely hurried***

When they started rewriting things last year and even cut out one of the main characters from the story, I was 50/50 on it being 2015 or 2016 release.

http://gamerant.com/unchart...

[AliTheSnake1]

Few months, who cares. There is a shit ton of games coming out this year. Who didn't see this coming anyways, I personally thought it would be delayed to fall 2016.
As long as the game's good.
I wonder if they're releasing an uncharted collection this fall.

@vishmarx lol, your first sentence , contradicts everything you said after it. Why say "noooo" if everything after that is supporting the delay.

[Sitdown]

MCC was a disaster because people were unwilling to wait? Please explain.

[Crimzon]

Well this isn't the best news but if the game needed the extra dev time then it's better to do it right than have another rushed game. It is frustrating though considering my only console is the PS4 and the games I was looking forward to this year are Bloodborne, Metal Gear Solid V and Uncharted 4. Oh well, 2 out of 3 ain't bad. Hope Sony gets their act together with their exclusives though.

[Joda]

yeah I agree day 1 patches are unethical. They steal our harddrive space just so they can release early and start making money early and it is cool they want it to be tip top at release

BUT the last uncharted, uncharted 3, came out in 2010, since when does it take 6 years to make a game, let alone a linear game like uncharted? Even a masterpiece like grand theft auto doesn't take 6 years to make! wtf??

Im selling the ps4. I am not a blood borne fan and I platinumed infamous ss and the dlc. I'm not gonna keep the console for indies only. I prefer forza to drive club. So without any new infamouses or uncharted I got no reason to keep the console. I might wait until e3. Its only 3 months. But man I'm pissed. Bring back Jack Trentton please, shisho hoshida and kaz hiri are killing playstation. Quit defending sony guys or they'll keep gimping out on the exclusives.

[Syntax-Error]

VenomUK, you must be easily amused or play a lot of cellphone games because the game DID NOT look good. It looked like Uncharted was only getting a Definitive Edition makeover like everything else. It didnt look like the masterpiece we were expecting. I knew they would push this game because if the released that crap they showed last year, they would have tarnished their name. Looks like Sony needs a boost in the exclusives department because I haven't heard too much about the titles as well. People need to understand that it isn't even spring yet for 2015 and yet they are talking spring of 2016

[freshslicepizza]

is anyone really surprised by this?

http://n4g.com/news/1621867...

sony is able to coast and push games back because hardware is selling so well. i wonder if they will have another lackluster fall line-up of exclusives? doesn't seem to matter either way, the system will sell regardless.

[Sono421]

So... I was just thinking.... is it possible this was delayed for Project Morpheus support? I mean it was pushed back into the release window for it.. and they're going to need a big title to help push them right at the gate.. what better title than Uncharted 4?

[joab777]

It's funny, coming off a year like 2014 that you would get more dislikes. I understand that Uncharted is much more popular than The Witcher IP but few ppl had a problem with its delay or delays. I assume everyone trusts ND as much as CD PROJEKT RED so I'm a tiny bit confused.

Ok. So, I think ND and Sony would have done themselves a service to wait a week for Bloodborne to release before announcing this. Being that everyone is still waiting for that killer Sony app that isn't broken or underwhelming, waiting for BB may have helped soften the blow a bit.

We can sit back and worry that it's b/c of past internal issues, but I don't think so. I think they are pushing hard with this game and want it to be amazing. That, and maybe they don't want to share space with CoD, Battlefront, MGS5 and possibly a huge Bethesda game.

I would have been more surprised had it actually released this yr.

[BallsEye]

@Septic

yea, they'll announce games that you can expect to come out in 2017 or so. How often did sony release a game same year that the announcement was made? So far 2015 doesn't look very well for Sony when it comes to exclusive. I guess...greatness awaits...and awaits....as usual.

[Dark11]

I knew it.. good thing there is tons of new games coming

Next Zelda or Rise of the tomb raider.

[DarkOcelet]

As long as they are not broken then let them take their time with it.

[ABeastNamedTariq]

I remember you saying that. I didn't believe it at first but damn.

[WCxAlchemist]

No i just think ND is Trolling us hard. UC4 will release Holiday 2014 or i will go ape shit and will get rid of my ps4 there be NO reason 2own it

[Farmassy]

@wcxalchemist

You better go ahead and go apeshit because holiday 2014 has already past.

Also, no company would troll like this. It would be bad for their game if they gave false release dates. It's not a big deal. I would rather wait for the best game possible than get a broken one

[bleedsoe9mm]

keep dreaming rise of the tomb raider is still coming this fall

[k3rn3ll]

I never believe it would have come out this year either. Too rushed of a dev cycle especially after all the work put into The last of us remaster. Maybe if they had given that to a different studion to remaster but even then thats a fast turnaround for your flagship franchise moving to a new console, with new architecture, and more power to use

[Mykky]

I feel pretty sure that Zelda is going to be delayed too. Also I doubt Starfox will be released before Zelda -as previously said- if Zelda comes out this year.

[Metallox]

Nintendo CAN'T delay its biggest release in 2015.

[lelo2play]

"Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End Coming Spring 2016"

Damn. I was hoping for a November 2015 release.

[Crazyglues]

I thought this game was in development since they broke the studio into two teams for The Last Of Us ---> that's what they said, one team working on The Last of Us and One team on Uncharted 4...

Seems like a really long time, I hope they didn't run into development challenges --> This one was at the top of my end of 2015 Must haves..

Guess I will just have to add that to my Spring 2016 Must haves

[opoikl]

Maybe they saw what RaD achieved with The Order and they wanted to make sure U4 would live up to the newly raised graphical bar.

[gatormatt80]

@Crazyglues

Most of us thought ND had two teams, but last year they did an interview with gameinformer and said...

"Yeah. Two teams is probably not the best description, but two franchises is a good way to put it."

http://www.gameinformer.com...

[Crimzon]

Yeah, they don't have two teams at Naughty Dog. They just split resources so when a game enters full production during the development cycle, they send maybe 5% of their team to start pre-production on their next game. So while 95% of people were working on Uncharted 3, once it hit full steam about a year before launch they'd have a small group of people start early work on The Last of Us, and so on and so forth. It's the most efficient way of doing things to minimize having people sitting around doing nothing when they're not needed during late stages of development.

[traumadisaster]

Then that's when I buy a ps4 with updated console.

Ps3 same thing, I bought the uncharted combo.

PC4K gaming and x1 will keep me busy until then. Heck I still play the ps360.

Plus the old ps4 games will be $15 by then.

[pivotplease]

Still plenty of reasons to play the ps4 with bloodborne and persona 5 and many others on the way. That and the unnannounced game or two that will surely come.

Besides I think the Wii u has the must play games as well this year.

I'm not holding my breath for fable legends and tomb raider is timed and quantum is likely delayed so like last year I'm hoping the x1 crowd are huge halo fans.

I'm really hoping for a Bethesda release this year as well.

[nitus10]

I wasn't going to wait till Uncharted 4 came out anyway before getting a PS4. I think the Action/Adventure and RPG games that are out and will be coming out will be enough to tide me over till Uncharted finally comes out. For me an RPG bundle (hopefully including Boodborne and Dark Souls 2) will be a must buy.

Then again if Elder Scrolls 6 comes out then I won't care if Uncharted is pushed back again.

@pivotplease

I have not played a Persona game yet and I have read good reviews on them so I guess Persona 5 will be a definite maybe. Now if we can somehow extend time to say 40 hours in the day allowing 10 hours to sleep, and do other more mundane things. :-)I

[PunisherRevenge]

Wow....that sucks. Was really looking forward to playing uncharted 4 this year.Oh well release it when it's ready.

[DOMination-]

Seems like Sony was scared of Tomb Raider

[pivotplease]

Considering U2 and 3 and TLoU are vastly superior to the last TR (those terrible animations and sloppy death sequences aside), TR2 is going to have to be twice the game of its predecessor to even begin to compete. That and PS4 gets both games regardless.

That's right. I fed the troll.

[FITgamer]

Um..lol. If that were case (which it isn't) they'd more likely launch early than 5-6 months later.

[guyman]

O, you mean the timed exclusive which will eventually come to ps4 which isnt better than uncharted 4?

[DLConspiracy]

I'm not sure why people expected it to be this year. All signs pointed to next year. Its not a bad thing.

[daxter1919]

Look Here:

2015: All Playstation (PS4) Exclusive Games (220+ Games with screens inside)
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz...

[jc12]

not gonna lie, this game getting delayed sux ballz.

[-Ghost]

Take the much time needed Naughty Dog to create another masterpiece :)

[ltachiUchiha]

Hopefully they can have another team bring an Uncharted Remastered Collection for those who haven't played the other Uncharted games. That would be sweet but damn I was hoping UC4 would drop this year but oh well, cant have everything the way we want it.

[Bloodjunkie]

yes, we should think positiv. Now we have much more time to play bloodborne!!

[KiwiViper85]

A full year? I hope there's that much content, but doubt it.

[Bloodjunkie]

dark souls had easily content for one year. so i hope bloodborne will too

[Forn]

There will be a lot of games to play this year regardless, and I want U4 to be as amazing as possible, so take your time ND, we all know it'll be worth it.

[yuukiliu]

Already paid for my Digital Download copy lol. A little extra time this holidays to play games I already own? No problems with that. The best trilogy of last gen(imo) GOTY 2016 most likely.

[jackanderson1985]

huh wonder what MS is gonna do now... wasn't TR supposed to be their answer to UC?

Also what does this do for Sony's christmas period, they can't really go through a second one without an exclusive blockbuster (well they could but it wouldn't look good)

edit: hardly a sweeping statement, it's a fact at the moment their christmas time is looking bleak, last years was bleak... no point going "oh E3 they'll announce a mega blockbuster that hasn't been announced before and that'll be it"

[garos82]

there are tons of game shows to go before christmas and there are tons of 1st party studios still silent on their games. Wait for E3 before you make a sweeping statement like that

Also i trust Naughty Dog and am patiently awaiting

[uptownsoul]

The only way you can claim PS4's Christmas time is bleak is because Sony spread's its exclusives throughout the calendar year unlike it's competition…Sony could have just as good of Christmas time if it held all of its exclusives till after August

And for the record, I'd love to see a Uncharted Collection this holiday

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

And exactly what exclusives did Sony hold on to? Name ONE Blockbuster exclusive Sony has released since Xmas. Your say that Sony held off on releasing exclusives during the busiest shoppong season in order to spread out their games? That makes no sense.

[uptownsoul]

@BLKxSEPTEMBER

What are you taking about, Sony DOESN'T hold on to exclusives till the end of the year. Thats what Xbox does.

Sony could have held Yakuza 0, BloodBorne and Ratchet & Clank till Holiday 2015. Instead, Yakuza 0 is coming out March 12, Bloodborne is March 24, and Ratchet & Clank is coming out around the movie release (which is scheduled for the summer; has already had VIP screenings - http://imgur.com/5g0KubI )

As far as busiest shopping season: 1) Sony doesn't have a problem moving PS4 products, 2) Why set your biggest games up to compete with HUGE AAA multi plats that you know will sell huge (i.e. CoD, NBA 2K, FIFA, etc.)

Spreading the games out is partially the reason why PS4 has sold over 81.8Million PS4 games as of Jan, 4th 2015

[pivotplease]

My guess is Microsoft will end up with an extra (timed) exclusive for this fall and people will lose it and say Microsoft has all the games despite their 8 month drought. Then we'll see another 8 month drought while U4 and another exclusive or two hit the ps4 in the first half of 2016. I'm fine with that though. I game all year long and actually have less time to game Q4.

[thelwebb100]

8 Month drought? Bro XB1 has been putting out good exclusives in late 2014, it's time for Sony to drop exclusives at this point.

[Christopher]

*** they can't really go through a second one without an exclusive blockbuster***

Why not? They did fine last year without one. The most sold games on both platforms were primarily third-party titles during the same period and what pushed XBO sales higher (but not above PS4 WW) were pricing and free games, not exclusives.

[Kavorklestein]

Yeah but the difference this time around is: halo 5 IS coming out this year, And rise of the Tomb Raider as well, while Sony will have almost nothing in the AAA category exclusive wise in Q4.

I'm not saying that the ps4 is doomed or anything it's obviously doing just fine,but I do however think this is really bad news for people who had their hopes up for it coming out this year, like myself... That's when I was going to get a ps4... Now I can just wait till I can actually afford it so it's actually somewhat good news lol

[Christopher]

@Kavorklestein: You should note the quoted part I'm replying to where the user said "can't really go through..."

I get that the PS4 may not do as well as XBO w/o any exclusives compared to MS having two or more big ones. But, can't go through a second one when the last one showed them winning out for the Holiday season? I think some people are being drama queens here.

[jackanderson1985]

in my defence i did end the statement with "well the could but it wouldn't look good"

and what I meant was that in the two christmas periods alone the PS4 has been out, it's sold nearly 10 mil (one being hampered by massive stock shortages)

Christmas is the selling time for the consoles, generally they sell more there than they will for the rest of the year combined. Having no AAA exclusive to tout the game or exclusive content as it's not looking like MS are given up COD yet, they'll be promoting the console with the games that have been out in the market for a while.

MS on the other hand will be able to shell out 3 seperate ads: 1) Halo (being a massive platform seller, i think they average more than 7mil per title over it's life, not including spin offs)...2)Forza being a generally well received game and 3) Tomb Raider being a well known icon in the industry and if a kid or whomever sees "xbox exclusive" they'll be inclined to go with xbox

i've also seen on other forums that people were saying between the choice of UC4 and TR it's UC4... but removing the choice and limiting it to TR could well make people gravitate towards xbox rather than having to wait 4-5 months for UC to come out

not saying it won't do well but no major exclusives won't help

[Saijahn]

I wouldn't necessarily say TR was to be a response to UC considering UC is pretty much a direct copy of the game. But in a sense I can see you're saying they were supposed to matchup sales wise. I fully expect TR to release on time, especially a rumored delay of Quantum Break.

The more interesting thing for me though is that The Order bombed and now UC is being delayed. What happens if Bloodborne doesn't do well either?

I think it will score well and sale well for those expecting it but it's not exactly a game with mass appeal.

It's shaping up to be an interesting year for Sony exclusive software.

[ginsunuva]

They don't care if it releases at the same time.

That won't do anything. Companies don't think like childish fanboys where everything is a contest like you guys do.

[jackanderson1985]

it's not about fanboyism, MS admitted that they got TR to counteract UC because they haven't got anything to go against it

massively different release dates kinda defeats the purpose of acquiring a game as a balance against another game

[DialgaMarine]

I'm probably not gonna be around to play it this year anyway lol

Honestly, they delayed TLoU by 6 months, and created a masterpiece, so I trust ND has good reason when they delay their title.

[ginsunuva]

No, they have no good reason. They just want to lower sales, delay the sales, and increase development costs for fun.

[kingahmad90]

ooooooh noooo

[neocores]

Never had a solid date so anyone saying it got delayed is flat out wrong.

[Forn]

In the trailer it said 2015, so yeah, a delay, but it'll be worth it.

[etownone]

First quantum, now this.

Seems Xbox One will have the edge this holiday with Tomb Raider and of course Halo 5.

[gamer1138]

Quantum Break hasn't been delayed. That tweet turned out to be from some random troll.

[uptownsoul]

Yeah but the point is that the thought of Quantum Break being delayed was getting the same responses from each fanboy camp that this news will get (in reverse obviously)

[green]

That rumour about Quantum Break was fake. The guy that posted it on twitter claimed to be a community manager for Microsoft. Later on, it was then verified that he did not work for Microsoft so he started to backpedal. This is his tweet regarding the issue

"To clarify, the #QuantumBreak news I posted was a opinion piece NOT a confirmation.I am NOT an official MS employee,like some of you thought"

On Topic: Was really looking forward to playing this game this year because i was planning to buy a PS4 along with it. Hopefully, Uncharted 4 will end up a better product due to the delay.

[etownone]

Ah, thanks for clearing that up.

I was definitely looking forward to it too.

I recently got a ps4 also, and that was the only game for it I was looking forward to this year.

[lifeisgamesok]

Along with Forza 6 and a very likely Gears of War remaster

[TearsOfARapper84]

This is honestly fantastic news to me. Now I can use my tax refund to pick up both a PS4 and Uncharted!! Better than trying to scrounge together money when my energy bills are through the roof and I'm busy buying gifts for family/friends.

[JMaine518]

Damn I had a feeling this was coming. I want it so bad but if it's going to make it better then take your time Naughty Dog.

[Zay]

Wish developers would quit announcing games early and sticking a release window (EX: 2015/2016) at the end of their trailers if they have no specific date or not confident it's coming out the next year.

[traumadisaster]

I agree, I think sony shows uncharted and drive club early to sell on the promise they are coming, to sell more consoles.

I think that is wrong...

[nitus10]

I do think Uncharted 4 will be a system seller when it eventually comes out.

Originally Uncharted was scheduled for November 2015 which could produce quite a spike in PS4 sales in the lead up to the Christmas period.

That said do you honestly think that Naughty Dog deliberately went out of their way to delay their product knowing full well that a delay means loss of of sales during the Christmas spending frenzy?

When developing a product there are always unforeseen issues which can cause delays and IMHO it is better to fix those issues prior to release than "patch" later.

[FullmetalAlchemist]

I'm ok with this

[Manic2014]

Damn, knew this would happen. Had a feeling but was not convinced since they did show gameplay in December.

[Cherchez La Ghost]

At this point of time of games being delivered in a broken now these days, I'm fine with this.

[Automatic79]

Wow sorry to hear that. I wanted this game badly.

[Sir_Simba]

I expect this
I was prepared for it.

[Torque_CS_Lewith]

Perhaps they want more time to reach 60fps. I trust ND, they deliver top notch games. I do not have a PS4 nor do I want one but I'm a big fan of these guys from my PS2/3 days and I wish them all the best.

[Tedakin]

Considering there was a massive "Tomb Raider vs Uncharted" thing coming this holiday, I'd say this delay is unexpected.

[--bienio--]

Hahaha

[JMyers]

Hmmmm... So Uncharted vs Tomb Raider isn't happening... or the way Square wanted it to. Because both games were meant to be released in the Holiday window it made sense to hold back TR on the PS4 and get some money for doing so. TR in 2016 and UC4 the same year on PS4... depending on the duration of course.

Wonder what Sony's big exclusive will be for the holidays then? I don't think any of the first party announcements would be for a 2015 release. MS currently has Halo 5, Forza 6 and TR. Big games here. Not to mention marketing deals with AC, COD and the division.

I think it's a safe bet that Sony needs to announce something for this window and some bundles to ensure it stays close to MS in North America. Maybe we will get a "Master Thief" Collection?

[JWiLL552]

Sony already has a significant lead that will likely be bigger by that time, I doubt they're too concerned about the holidays.

I wouldn't be surprised if "The Uncharted Collection" was announced, now that UC4 is pushed back. Might look something like this: https://a.disquscdn.com/upl...

That said, go right ahead and make all the holiday bundles you want MS! I plan to grab one...the bundlier the better :D

[JMyers]

To say that they are not concerned about the holidays is quite naive I think. Sony has a big worldwide lead, and doing extremely well even though the console is now priced higher. People want the PS4.

However, Sony knows that MS is close in the US. A big market for both and where a lot of the exclusive marketing deals and content deals seem to matter most in terms of hardware and software sales. It's the time of year when people buy consoles and games in abundance. The XB1 outsold the PS4 in Nov and Dec by some margin during this time, closing the gap in the US. Yes I know this down to price drops, bundles and marketing deals, but also software was key.

Imagine if Sony had the Order ready and Drive Club working during the holidays? This would no doubt drive sales. Sony may be leading, but by let up on the competition? Why give them a chance to come back 1:1 in their strongest market? It's about the wider picture and keeping pressure on the competition.

I think Sony should release an Uncharted/NG bundle over the holidays... All three games with the PS4 and TLOU... $399. And they should also have a NEW game to bring in PS3 owners. Just my opinion of good business.

And yes I know the PS4 sells itself... I own 2 of the thigns :)

[rainslacker]

Wouldn't it be ironic if SE wanted to release TR 6 months later on the PS4 to avoid competing directly with UC, so took money from MS, which probably looked like a good idea at the time.

Probably not the case, but moments like that make me happy so publishers may consider stopping all this timed exclusive BS.

The bigger reality is that SE would just delay the game longer on the PS4.

[JMyers]

I honestly believe this is the case... TR will sell on XB1 while UC4 sells on PS4... they would not have been competing with each other. This was good for Square as they ould get an influx of captial (from MS) and less competion. MS benefits as the game would sell some XB1s over the holidays.

If this deal was 6 months in length or even a year then UC4 and TR will still be out in the same year. Kind of defeats the purpose of the whole timed deal.

I don't like when a game was already in development and then some deal/s caused the other version to be cancelled. There is difference between funding a game out right and paying for it... leading to it being kept off another platform or cancalled... Like TF and TR.

[GokuSolosAll]

I can wait. Hell, push it to Winter 2016 for all I care. Plenty of games coming and they can just polish this one.

[andibandit]

Why stop there, give me 2020 or give me death!!!, take all the decades you need nd.

[Lord-Nicon]

They are scared of another Order 1886/drive club fiasco for sure, that's why they pushed it..

[NeverHeavyMan]

I highly doubt they are worried about what happened with The Order/DRIVECLUB (not really any consistency there, either, given the release periods). This is Sony's 2nd biggest IP we're talking about here, not an unreleased new IP.

After Uncharted 3, Naughty Dog said they wouldn't dedicate themselves to rushed released dates anymore. It happened with The Last Of Us and is happening now.

More power to them.

[Christopher]

What? Two completely different items with two completely different "problems" and that's why they pushed U4 back? Doesn't make sense.

The Order wasn't even broken at all, just not the gameplay reviewers wanted.

Driveclub was an primarily online game with server issues.

What is the fiasco here?

[JWiLL552]

Naughty Dog scared...lmao.

[thepluggy]

They knew well it would not be realesed this year but which goes to show they lie just like every other dam game company. I was really looking forward to this but such a massive delay shows they never had any real intention of releaseing it this year. Another studio just feeding us crap to keep us quiet for the mean time.

[remixx116]

Da fuq lol

[JWiLL552]

It's not a massive delay. It could come in March for all we know.

[Joda]

12 months ain't massive?

[jhenri]

I know I'm feeding the troll but Joda the only way it would be a 12 month delay is if it was coming out now as in this month. It wasn't. So no it it isn't a massive delay as it was generally accepted to be coming out around the holidays.

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

Thank god Bloodborne is still coming. Bloodborne and Helldivers are the only reason i will turn on my PS4. I was looking forward to more of drakes adventure but i guess thats a no go. So now what do i have to look forward to? Im beginning to question why i even bought a PS4 day one at this point.

[Omar91]

So then what does somy have for the holidays? They cant rely on just third party titles and bundles while microsoft has more then 1 AAA title coming out during the holiday.

[Christopher]

Why not? That's what sold the most on both consoles this last Holiday season.

[OOMagnum]

Wow! Please dont tell me your okay with Sony's lackluster 1st party showing so far this gen?

[Christopher]

***Wow! Please dont tell me your okay with Sony's lackluster 1st party showing so far this gen?***

I'm not okay with either company's line up, to be honest. I play mostly third-party titles on my consoles.

You seem to think that I'm interested in the first-party offerings of either party, I'm not. Heck, I'm more interested in Tomb Raider than I am Uncharted 4.

But, regardless, how did what I say have anything to do with my opinion of Sony's 1st party offerings? What I said is that third-party offerings sold more on both consoles during the Holidays and that without as many 1st party exclusives as MS this last Holiday, Sony still sold more consoles and games worldwide than MS.

[pivotplease]

The x1 has had a terrible line up so far. Especially if you factor in smaller titles where ps4 has been killing it. Both ps4 and x1 have yet to release something resembling the perfect exclusive thanks to bugs and other flaws. Nintendo is actually doing a good job but they're 3 years into their cycle so it's to be expected.

Edit: to address the lineup specifically. We have already had a killzone, an infamous, a new housemarque game, a littlebigplanet, a slew of great indie titles (some of the best games in recent memory), a new racing ip, and a new tps ip. Bloodborne, perhaps another new ip, or if you will a spiritual successor to demons souls is right around the corner. Nothing wrong with that lineup. Ps2 and ps3 were terrible for at least a year.

Oh and 3rd party games always sell well. Don't underestimate the sheeple who pick up Ubisoft and ea games annually.

[LAWSON72]

Sony can get away with it, hell they did it all last year after TLOU came out up until the Order. MS is not that lucky and have to put a huge effort into getting content, and I could not be happier about it

Either way sad but good news to see this delayed

[pivotplease]

What is the more than 1 AAA title? I can think of only halo 5 and timed exclusives hardly count as a system victory. The average gamer would rather wait a bit than buy an entirely new system for a game.

[DOMination-]

No Mans Sky perhaps?

[Omar91]

So then what does sony have for the holidays? They cant rely on just third party titles and bundles while microsoft has more then 1 AAA title coming out during the holiday.

[NBT91]

Persona 5 and a whole bunch of exclusives out before holiday season.

[Chevalier]

Sony releases:

The Order 1886
Bloodborne
MLB 15
Until Dawn
Tearaway
Ratchet and Clank

3rd party

Amplitude
Disgaea 5
Omega Quintet
Godzilla
J Stars
Jojo
One Piece 3
Toukidan
Yakuza
FF X
FF XIV expansion
Dragonquest Heroes
Persona 5
Godeater 2 Rage Burst
SF Ultra
Hyperneptunia
Fairy Fencer Dark Force
Tropico 5 next gen release only on PS4

Those are the games coming sometime during the year.

[TKCMuzzer]

This seems to be coming more common. With the holiday season becoming more and more crowded it seems by releasing a big title in a less frantic period that garners it more attention. With the PS4 install Base, releasing in a less crowded time of year could easily both benefit the game and Sony.
Let's be honest, it's also good to see publishers listening to the devs when they say they need more time

[nowitzki2004]

Wheres all the people that were telling me it wont get delayed? I see it coming Nov 2016

[WESKER2015]

its just pressure, we have all seen how fickle the gaming community is, i bet Naughty Dog took some notes while watching the order 1886 and ready at dawn get disemboweled, so they are obviously not fully confident with the product thus far, gamers really need to stop expecting so much, you are delaying your own games, tone it down a bit, stop with this 60fps 1080p or nothing crap, when did frame-rate and resolution stop you enjoying a naughty dog game in the past? or any game for that matter!

[LexHazard79]

Man.. I'm disappointed as I was looking forward to playing Uncharted this yr. That being said I want Uncharted to be the best one yet, and if it takes ND til next yr to finish it, then so be it. With all the games coming to PS4 this yr, we should be ok.

[nevin1]

Interesting as I was thinking at E3 2015, Sony will announce God of War 4 with a March 2016 release.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

I think this sums up my feelings on this situation...

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[Enyxodin]

Naughty dog...when you release uncharted 4 in spring 2016 it will be 2.5 years after your first teaser trailer! Why announce a game so early?

[leahcim]

2016?

This must be 1080 60fps then!

NAAAAUGHTY DOG!

[Ryan741]

Wonder if the delay is related to how good the new Tomb Raider is looking and playing? Regardless, if its not ready then extra time will obviously help.

[DarXyde]

After seeing Quantum Break potentially being delayed, this comes as no surprise.

Whatever it takes to make it amazing. I'll be on Metal Gear Online until then... And then beyond that.

[Sarah_Ch]

Well thought so, Let's hope we see it running on 60fps after that delay

[JWiLL552]

It's not going to happen. They'd have to sacrifice visuals to do that. Naughty Dog will focus on "best in class" visuals over a frame rate that's never been used in the series before.

[StarLord_Who]

So this year is going to be as boring as the last 2 years then? Great, first Quantum Break is rumoured for 2016 and now this. They are the only two games i was going to buy this year.

[theshredded]

I'm actually glad,I'm buying Persona 5 over anything in the fall

[MilkMan]

Thats why i didn't pre-order it yet. I don't like December 31 dates.

[Meltic]

One thing FU. You said it will come 100% this year. Bullshit this... Its all beacuse they want to sell the game good and at the right time. To many good games coming this year...

[no_more_heroes]

Okay, so Halo 5 and Persona 5 it is, then. Unless FFXV comes out this year, which I still doubt.

[Blackleg-sanji]

Sigh disappointing indeed? So what do we have for the holidays? just diesega 5,Persona 5, I mean that's not bad to me at all but from a mainstream point of view I can understand why those would suck. I guess they can ride the metal gear solid v wave they already have that bundle. Hmm can't think of anything else I believe tearaway unfolded and until dawn are summer titles

Edit: ah wait ratchet and clank too!!

[Lionalliance]

Kinda saw it coming.

[corroios]

Ok, but Naughty Dog can you remake UC, UC2 and UC3 for christmas???

I just hope that sony surprise us with something during the E3 for the last months of the year.

[Christopher]

Ugh. Please no. Please invest that money in a new IP with a different studio. Please let's not keep rebuying the same games.

[Moe-Gunz]

I would like to play UC2 MP on my PS4.

[Orionsangel]

http://giphy.com/gifs/xTiTn...

[OC_MurphysLaw]

lol... bub+

[OC_MurphysLaw]

There will be plenty to play on the PS4 come holiday 2015 however the exclusives coming from Sony at the moment once again look thin for Holiday.

[jmac53]

Bring us Uncharted Collection then Naughty Dog!

[Gatsu]

Was expecting this to happen and imo this is kinda good, because lots of games coming this year and especially TPP which I desire the most :).

[SliceOfTruth888]

I own all 3 systems and honestly cant WAIT for Uncharted 4, but again i ask why are the PS4 only owners not raging because so far Xbone has spanked the PS4 in games.

[Dirtnapstor]

Spanked with what? The only game that really looks to be desired is Sunset Overdrive. Almost bought it for my nephew just so I could play it! lol
I know each console has it's own merits...

[StormLegend]

Got damn! well this is BS

[goldwyncq]

ND has been working on this for what, 5 years? Uncharted 2, widely claimed to be the best in the series, only had a development time of about 2 years. I have a feeling that this game would be special even for ND's standards.

[bleedsoe9mm]

yikes , so what games does sony have announced for next christmas ?

[MasterCornholio]

What are you waiting for Christmas to play games for?

You can buy exclusives before then which is what PS4 owners did with the Order and will do with Bloodborne.

[ashen122]

Alright what's going to be released for late 2015? Find out at E3 2015.

[antikbaka]

another product that has been advertised before they really had something real on their hands. All those delays don't protect from low-quality.

[bobsmith]

man I pre ordered digital it said 2015 can I get refund to spend on another game for 2015?

maybe they launching it with morpheous and hd uncharted collection for 2015

[Christopher]

If you call Sony up, they'll probably refund you. Though, not sure how much time that will take.

[Claudinho69]

2016 is set to be the best year in gaming history ever?

[Tapani]

I hate to say I was right all along. From the development perspective it was almost impossible to create a game of that caliber in that given short time (by 2015).

Take your sweet time. We can always play TLOU just one more time :)

[Relientk77]

Well there's my biggest game of 2016

[AbhishekGIS]

I am happy that they are taking their time to finish the game and not rushing it like other game devs

[Moe-Gunz]

I'll be playing MGSV/MGO while I wait.

[iluvmaPS3]

So stupid. We all saw this coming. They dont wanna compete with the big holiday lineup. I build houses for a living. I wish i could just delay thier houses for several months like these developers do but I would be fired if we delayed it a day

[Mr_Luke]

3, 2, 1.... ATTACK!!!
*trolls everywhere, coming out even from the loo, attacking all about Sony, Uncharted and ND*

My point of view: they're going to get 60fps or even better visuals... or both?
I don't care if i have to wait a bit more. The funny things are the comments of the M$ fanboys and the 99999 articles about the delay.
Oh well....

PS4 Haz no gamez!!11!!!1! NO frists pary gamez!!11 /s

[scark92]

More Ambitous means a better experience! Roll On 2016!

[proudxgamer]

Halo is more than enough for the holidays even if TR was delayed. I dont think will hurt hurt Sony too much. We shall see....depends on price drop and or resolution gate media during holidays. X1 has made the mistake 2yrs n a role not releasing a AAA (Titanfall I know) title in the spring/summer.now Sony has momentum steam with 20M+ consoles sold and Bloodborne and more coming out. The Indies Microsoft has can't compete at this moment. Too many hardcore gamers wanting shooters and or exploration blood baths! Please Rare make good on Phil Spencer's comments.. AAA uniquely Rare we gamers no better more and consistent titles (Indies)

[jcnba28]

This is terrible news!!

[ManiacMansion]

Damn.. Sony lost holidays 2014 in terms of games and sales and 2015 will even be worse for them.

The only real blockbusters left are Bloodborne and maybe SF5 but Street Fighter is not for casual gamers.

MS will have Halo5, Tomb Raider, Quantum Break and Forza 6, all confirmed for 2015.

I dont mention even Fable Legends/ Ori and the next Rare games.

Looks like 2015 will be again a Indiparty for ps4 owners, ouch!

But but but 1080p is all it matters xD

[jznrpg]

Quantum Break was delayed too,could be more delays for some of those games too. Too early to say

[ManiacMansion]

Quantum break wasnt delayed... inform yourself better before writing kid.

This news were fake by a troll omg...

[DunDee910]

Dang, i just let my PS+ lapse. And my PS4 has been collecting dust. I should have gotten a Wii U. If Bloodborne reviews well, maybe i'll pick that up.

[jcnba28]

Same here man, dont forget to manually remove auto subscription from your PSN account or you'll automatically be charged.

[damion1980]

Naughty Dog can take all the time they want. This game will be mind blowing.

Would love a HD remake trilogy of the others to tide me over though.

[ManiacMansion]

All the want?

So a release in 2020 would be also ok for you xD...

5 heads od the uncharted series left ND, 2 of them are working on Tomb Raider now.... uncharted 1, 2 and 3 released averey 2 years... ND is working now 5 years for UC4 and it seems like either they dont know how to make the story better as in UC2 or they cant fit 1080p/30fps.

You guys all praise ND as the gods of quality but that was also Rare...

If the heads for ideas and inovation leave a company that usually the product gets worse.

[emilijo777]

last 3 NAUGHTY DOG games scored 90+ on metacritic. rare?

[Petebloodyonion]

You know what's piss me off?
Not the fact that this game is delay but the fact that ppl here act like surprised when clearly it was the plan since day 1.
Here let me say it:
I TOLD YOU SO!
After all major games this gen got the 1 year delay (don't worry Quantum break will follow) this was to be expect.
But don't worry Sony's fan you will have a E3 announcement that Uncharted trilogy remastered will be made available to you next Christmas with over hyping that it's really taxing to recreate this game in 1080P and maybe 60 frames sec and the medias.

As for Uncharted 4, don't worry it will be available Fall 2016

[jznrpg]

I don't get very disappointed when games get delayed, Last guardian has been , but I can still wait. I still have a bunch of games that I need to cross of my list in backlog. Unless you only play a small range of games , there is alwayd good games to play imo. When UC4 does come out it will go to the top of my list, but there is always 10+ games at least on it.

[Wonderful101]

Take your sweet time.

[StrawberryDiesel420]

So hopefully they re-master the Uncharted Trilogy at 1080p/60FPS before this releases. No big deal.

[lemoncake]

Huge blow to sonys 2015 holiday lineup.

[Dyldog69]

Just as I said a few weeks ago that it would not be released this year. I've figured out these companies patten of lies as they pertain to marketing

[cheameup]

If they need more time then there's not much you can do but I have to say I'm feeling pretty let down with this generation so far. It's been a stream of mediocre games and delays.

[captainexplosion]

Sony is bad about releasing games on time. DriveClub Plus Edition and Planetside 2 were supposed to be launch games. 2015 was supposed to be such an epic year, but with the delay of PS4's most hyped game and Sony's first two 1st party games disappointing (Super Stardust Ultra and The order) this year is looking a bit underwhelming. The Ratchet reboot is still my most hyped game this year tho.

[starcatcher]

Good, I rather play it at it's full potential. It's better than releasing a game before it's not ready.

[Valenka]

Preorder cancelled.

Totally kidding. I'm sure the delay is for the best of purposes and I can't wait to see the finished product next year. I'm sure it'll be the best Uncharted yet. Gameplay looks great so far!

[GamerGT]

Hmmm Uncharted 4 and Project Morpheus out in the same Timeframe?

[LightDiego]

Take your time Naughty Dog, for the best experience, that's what a great studio do.
A lot of trolls on topic...

[Lon3wolf]

Enough games coming across the formats/consoles this year anyway, rather they just take their time with this to make it as good as they want it to be.

[beereal360]

The last Tomb Raider was 5 times better than uncharted 3. Can't wait for the next Tomb Raider

[Jag-T1000]

Oh God! Xbox is gonna win Xmas 2015 holiday for sure now.

[Petebloodyonion]

My problem with this claim is when suddendly every studios need to delay theirs games so they can polish it for a better experience
and failed to deliver in the end. (Drive Club, Watch dog, The Order, etc.)

[kenshiro100]

I like how people are flipping out when there's other games for the PS4 coming out this year.

[icerob]

probably the only game that i actually wanted on the PS4..

[iliimaster]

the wiiU is looking better and better tired of all your remasters? well nintendos got some pretty sweet games folks maybe its time you signed up , this is horrible news for me because i was looking to play in 2015 but it leaves the door open for us to be blown away by tomb raider to maybe be less excited for uncharted

[BladerunnerZX]

One of the many reasons I upgraded to PS4. Uncharted 4 is still my most wanted PS4 exclusive. Then there's Bloodborn and Ratchet and Clank , No Mans Sky and many more.

[deathtok]

Perfect. Now I have time to complete the first 3 games... I've got a bit of a backlog!

[ballsohard2013]

damn man... this is one of the few games i was looking forward to but i'll live. This game is gonna be a GOTY contender so if a delay is needed. Eff it. Theres a few titles that will hold me down possibly... Metal Gear, the Division and maybe if X1 drops an Quantum Break ... Patience is everything now with these next gen titles....smfh

[DevilishSix]

ND and Sony may have made a smart move because if Fallout 4 gets announced at E3 and releases this holiday it will be a beast and who wants to go up against that.

[twiggytree12]

Agree 100% if fallout 4 comes this holiday I wont need any exclusives at that point in time.

[DaGamingKing]

So no Streetfighter 5, no Uncharted 4, tell me people whats left to play in 2015 that's exclusive?

I know there is Bloodborne (not my game), and I've already completed The Order 1886. Not so sure yet on No Mans Sky either.

A bit lacklustre perhaps?

[twiggytree12]

until dawn is the only thing that comes to mind but I know I am forgetting stuff.

[victorMaje]

No problem waiting a few extra months for Uncharted 4.
ND will not disappoint nor will they fail on delivering what I'm sure will be an incredible masterpiece.

[Re-versed]

So i guess ND isnt the ubisoft type of developers...
Take your time if we are about to see a great on par with the last of us result quality wise...

[Mikeyy]

It's not that big of a deal, people act like there is nothing else to play.

There's more games than I can afford.

September 1st, MGS5. That makes this year worthy to both consoles.

[Re-versed]

What about multiplatform games?Isnt ps4 has the best console versions of many goty contenters this year?I cant understand how everyone ignore MGS5 Witcher 3 ect.

[zod]

X1 will have more and bigger exclusives again this fall...HALO 5 AND ROTR

Plus few more games..

MS started strong this year with their first party published game ORI getting stellar reviews compared to Sony's POS Order 1886

[Drakul]

fck that shit! if you gonna release it in 2016 why did you show it in 2014! it is stupid marketing that's all. 2014-15 worst years of gaming!

[DeadManMMX]

This shouldn't surprise anyone . It's fine though whatever brings the best game possible.

[BABY-JEDI]

If Sony & ND got George RR Martin to write Uncharted, then we would be watching all the cast members dying like flies. So be brave & buckle up
; )

[The-Marb]

Sad news. But its better the game is as good as it could be and it came out later, than be rushed out and full of bugs.

Easy to forget but plenty of other great third party games out this year to fill the gap.

[Loadedklip]

Greatness Awaits ... till 2016