CD Projekt On Witcher 3's Resolution On PS4 & Xbox One: 'Little Difference Between 1080p & 900p'

"It’s the adventure and thrill you get from playing the game that counts," says CD Projekt's Michał Krzemiński.

[Foehammer]

We know

But it will still get blown out of proportion.

The funniest part is when you look at what's considered the best looking and award wining games on each console:

For X1 it has mostly 1080p games but the best is Ryse at 900p
For PS4 the best is The Order 1886, 800p, with 280 lines of nothing but black. Gameplay only happens on 800 lines, yet some ppl try to ignore this fact.

The real question is what the gameplay will be like and therefor the metacritic score

Edit, Yes Rashid, I guess I should have said "how the gameplay will be received", as in scoring the most important part of the game.

EDIT 2, I think the last few replies, from Echo419 (love the tag) and bubblebabble are most correct:

TO 1886 doesn't require upscaling, but it also isn't rendering 1080 lines (except black) so not full HD.

[gameseveryday]

I think CD Projekt have released enough gameplay videos to give us a good idea on how the gameplay will be like.

[GameNameFame]

Funny thing is that if I set my PC resolution to 900p from 1080p, it is so obvious right away.

Nothing is blown out of proportion.

No one said it is deal breaker, but sure as hell nice to play full HD games on my full HD TV.

If game play is only thing mattered, people would have stayed in last gen.

[vishmarx]

its not about the pixel count
what matters is the scaling.
most of us have 1080p displays 900p image on that will need upscaling which will distort the picture to an extent,
were you on a 720p screen it would make very little difference since it would be downscaling and not stretching the image.
had the game had borders all around it on 900p to avoid upscaling then the image quality would have been near identical even if smaller.
but nothing compares 1:1 scaling,period.

900p by no means looks bad, but to say 1080p on a 1080p screen doesnt look noticably sharper would be a blatant lie.
try switching b/w ac unity and da inquisition on ps4.
even when ac u is the better looking game, you can tell the difference b/w resolutions in an instant

[MagUk]

@GameNameFame

If I'm not mistaken the Xbox One upscale's the 900p image/video to 1080p so you cant really compare it to your pc but please correct me if I'm wrong.

[GameNameFame]

@MagUK

This "upscale" PR is biggest BS people bought into.

My TV has an upscaler. it has been upscaling my 720P last gen to 1080P.

My PC display has an upscaler too. Not to mention depending on circumstances, my PC can upscale too.

So please. Lets not make it out to be some secret sauce.

900P on your 1080P PC display is upscaled as well.

So it IS completely comparable.

[nicksetzer1]

Honestly, as with almost every game this gen, this game will look almost identical, but will be blown to an epic proportion by a certain group.

@gamename on your PC there is no upscaling, so it is not really comparable. That said, 900p may be noticable, but is not truly and inherently different. More importantly would be anti-aliasing, antistropic filtering, and other effects. In fact, a 1080p game with none of those things actually looks worse than an upscaled 900p version with all those things.

@vish I am not sure how you got so many agrees, but scaling is not "stretching" an image... Upscaling is a process that makes an estimation of what color surrounding pixels would be if it were a 1080p image. Stetching the image would not be scaling at all, as the pixel count would be exactly the same. The reason upscaling is generally a bit less vivd is because that"estimation" done by the upscaler is not always 100% correct. (there are a few other reason, none of them "stretching)

EDIT: @gamename except you are completely wrong. Many tv's have frame interpolation, but less than 1% of tv's actually upscale an image, at least in terms of pixel count. It may increase the pixel size to fit the screens native resolution. However, that is not what is being done by the Xbox one. Xbox One actually creates additional pixels making it 1080x1920. It sounds like you just have no clue what you are talking about to be honest.

[joab777]

I can always notice the difference, and for me, it is quite obvious. I also see the dress as blue and black lol!

This doesn't mean that I won't play and love something at 900p, bit if I have a choice...

[joab777]

@vishmarx

I agree. Compare Unity to Black Flag. The moment I turned Unity on, I could notice the haze that BF doesn't have.

[Svinya]

GameName - um, that's because the pc monitor is a foot away from your face and the tv is 6 feet away, genius.

[antikbaka]

nah.. more amd more companies release visually and gameplay twicked video. Until there is 2-3 hours non-stop gameplay video there is no reason to believe this bullshots.

It happened with screenshots from Witcher 3 too

[NatureOfLogic_]

I knew the Battlefield Hardline beta looked a little weird and blurry on my 55 inch compared to my other games. It was later that I found out that it was running at 900p. Hardline is the first 900p game I've played on my PS4. You can definitely tell the difference if you play mostly 1080p games.

[Mr Pumblechook]

* The game will PLAY the same on both XBO and PS4 consoles.
* Graphically there will be a VISUAL difference of 180p.
* If you own both consoles and want the benefit of that extra resolution get the PS4 version.
* Not everyone notices it but extra resolution does add detail
* If you own an Xbox One and you don't have an adjacent PS4 you won't notice the difference.
* Previews indicate that CD Projekt have been working hard to deliver the same EXPERIENCE to PS4, XBO & PC owners.

* Everybody happy!

[GameNameFame]

@nicksetzer

Tvs and monitors do upscale... my audio receiver upscale too.

@sivinya

And it's 15 to 18 inches vs 50 inch to 60 inches..it negates the distance. Duh

Lol genius.

[Why o why]

Play and enjoy your version. I did the same last gen when the differences were smaller despite the ranting and ravin in the digital foundry and lens of truth articles. Seems many have forgotten, chosen to forget or need to read up n4g lore circa 2005 - 2013.

[halfblackcanadian]

@GameNameFame

You also sit less than two feet from your monitor, if you're like most PC set ups. Average TV sits anywhere between 6 and 10 feet. It's not very noticeable at that distance (with under 65 inches of screen anyway)

[GameNameFame]

@halfblackcanadian

You do realize that 60 inch TV is 9 times bigger than 20 inch monitor?

So if you sit 3 times to 5 times distance, your screen is 9 TIMES bigger.

lol.

[LamerTamer]

@nicksetzer1

You can't "increase the pixel size". Todays displays are fixed pixel, they are always the same size.

"Xbox One actually creates additional pixels making it 1080x1920"

That is also not quite right. I have both of these consoles and upscaled PS4 images look the same as upscaled X1 images. Sorry but there is no secret upscale sauce in the X1. They all basically do the same thing.

The problem with them "creating additional pixels" is that they basically guess and create an average of the pixels next to each other. If on a true 1080p image the pixel was a different value that pixel would be totally gone on an upscaled lower res image. For example if you had 3 pixels next to each other on a 1080p that were R G B and the lower res only had the R B pixels due to pixel loss it would guess at the G pixel as an average, purple. That is of course wrong as it should have been green. The result in real world is that upscaled graphics look a bit "muddier" than true native ones, and you have loss in detail in textures etc, especially details that are farther away.

Then you get the fact that they need to add a filter over upscaled images to help reduce the resulting jaggies and you end up with a blurred image. Upscale artifacts produce a worse image in addition to the loss of detail due to the missing pixels.

No , there is no good substitute for a true 1:1 image that matches your native resolution.

[wsoutlaw87]

Lol everything upscales. Your tv is 1080 so it has those set number of pixels. If it shows over your entire screen, then the picture is in 1080. If a tv didnt upscale then you would have a bar down the side and at the top for the unused pixles. That is not the same as the original source being in native 1080.

[SilentNegotiator]

I can't believe how many people buy "upscaling" nonsense. The image is still only going to be as clear as the native resolution.

1600x900 = 1,440,000 pixels
1920x1080 = 2,073,600 pixels

1080p is almost a 50% increase over 900p.
That is NOT a small difference.

[GMR_PR]

@SilentNegotiator

I think its closer to 40% than to 50%, I could be wrong though.

[GMR_PR]

double post

[nicksetzer1]

@lamer "You can't "increase the pixel size". Todays displays are fixed pixel, they are always the same size. "

unfortunately, that is not true, point in case, the ability to change aspect ration despite a components output. You can have a 1080x1920 output changed to a 4:3 ratio on almost ANY tv. Now I did say VERY specifically "It m*MAY* increase the pixel size to fit the screens native resolution" as it is unlikely. (just giving him some benefit of the doubt) The reality is most TV's will simply change their operating resolution to fit the input device, I just didn't I had to explain that as it is literally something any nitwhit would know. (strange you didn't)

"That is also not quite right. I have both of these consoles and upscaled PS4 images look the same as upscaled X1 images. Sorry but there is no secret upscale sauce in the X1. They all basically do the same thing. "

So, xbox one does't create more pixels? How exactly is that "not right?" What is even more hilarious is that you think there is only one method of up-scaling an image. Almost every method of scaling is different especially scaling horizontally and vertically in one action. Nvidia, AMD, and almost positively Microsoft with their console create very specific algorithms to create patterns for the upscaler to follow. For example, some scaling methods will actually use data from a previous frame, some will create it based on surrounding pixels, some use both, some use unchanging gradients.

It is truly sad when someone attempts to "prove" someone wrong without having any idea what it is they are talking about.

@gamename "You do realize that 60 inch TV is 9 times bigger than 20 inch monitor?

So if you sit 3 times to 5 times distance, your screen is 9 TIMES bigger."

You are correct, assuming a 16:9 ratio it is 8.99999 times bigger for a 60" screen compared to a 20". (1,538.27893175072/170.9198813 05638) The problem is viewing at 24 inches vs viewing at a median 86" inches is not as simple as just saying it is less than 9 times the distance. That is not how visions works. first problem, everyone's eye work differently some who are near-sighted will see things differently than someone who is far sighted or has no affliction. Next would be the issue that sight degrades at an exponential rate. This means that 1 ft away you may see quite a bit of detail, 2ft still pretty clear, but 4 feet away is quite a big change. Don't believe me, use the image below, move away in 1 ft increments, you will see just how quickly your eye is unable to clearly distinguish a 30PPI image, (bet is less than 10 ft) let alone a 60" 900p (upscaled at that) image @ ~936PPI.

Make this image full screen on your 1080p 60" tv to emulate ~30DPI.
http://c1.neweggimages.com/...

[SilentNegotiator]

@GMR_PR

I guess it's 44%. Still, that's almost an entire half extra clear. That's big.

[Utalkin2me]

@GameNameFame

Your first comment was very good, then after that you got lost as last years easter egg.

[RocketScienceLvlStuf]

Of course there is a big difference.

There was a big difference last generation when the PS3 ran a couple of games at 640p compared to the 360's 720p.

The gap is even bigger now. People need to deal with it.

1080p should be standard now. Pretty much every tv in peoples homes now is 1080p. Anything less in this day and age isn't good enough.

Microsoft should have known that when they threw together the xbone

[nX]

Some just don't want to admit it even though they know it makes a difference. If you have the choice on your PC you always go for 1080p even if that means a slight FPS hit.

[joab777]

That's the issue. But we are to blame. The market wasn't there for $600 machines right now, so we get what we get. Sony chose 1 direction, and MS another.

No, it doesn't ruin the game or gameplay, but when you have a choice, and 1 machine can give you 1080, it's another reason to buy it. Thats all.

[MelvinTheGreat]

60fps > 1080p

1080p shouldnt be the standard when both these consoles can do 1080p/60fps

[ThePope]

The funniest part of this WHOLE 1080p situation is the VAST majority of people own a TV that they paid very little for. The reviews of said TVs show that the picture quality is far from the top of the line sets. So most of the people complaining are playing on crap TVs (anything under $2000). So have fun saying how important 1080 is when your TV runs is poorly.

[specialguest]

Funny how no ps4 owners made a big deal out of 900p when bf4 was 900p on the ps4.

[SilentNegotiator]

@specialguest

An occasional game is fine; 90% of games on Ps4 are 1080p. On Xbone it's closer to 50%, which is entirely unacceptable.

http://www.ign.com/wikis/xb...

[nosferatuzodd]

you know what that's why i say xbox fanboys are the biggest hypocrites on the planet you remember the article about how Xbox share picture res was better than ps4 and they all went nuts over how the picture was better than JPEG because ms use ping i couldn't even see the difference but if you hear how the Xbox fans react like a soccer game in England now every time they downplay how it doesn't matter but it matter for a damn still image though lol really guys really lol

[OldDude]

@gamenamefan

That is due to your monitor not running in its native resolution whereas the consoles upscale the image to 1080p prior to being received by your television. Thats why running anything other than your monitors native resolution (I am assuming 1080p, or 1440) looks terrible, it actually displays it at the lower resolution whereas consoles do not.

This is like debating which cheap car is better, neither console can do 1080p/60 with any graphical detail. Its like saying my Honda is faster than your Toyota, neither one are a Corvette. Just enjoy the games, graphics whores dont play primarily consoles in the first place.

[Angeljuice]

The upscaling itself distorts the image no matter where it occurs (TV or Console side).
You cannot upscale without distortion unless you were upscaling from a sample that fits the new resolution perfectly. 540 lines can be turned into 1080 lines with no problems whatsoever. A 900 line sample must be distorted to display 1080 lines, as it is impossible not to have fractions which don't relay into pixels (you can't have 2/3 of a single pixel green and 1/3 red, so one must be chosen over the other = distorted image).

Also I'd take a Honda over a Corvette any day (not because I like Honda's at all).

[wsoutlaw87]

Sorry but your analogy is stupid. Whats the point of talking about how fast a vet is if it isnt a lambo. If someone is only interested in 2 cars then it would be stupid to NOT compare the two. When you went to buy your last car/console/anything you just said, "f it if its not a spaceship then it doesn't matter. Ill just take this one." That being said, this resolution stuff is a dead horse.

[gamerfan128]

Console gamers want a console not a PC. They will buy the console with better performance for less money. The PS4 has sold 20.2+ million to consumers so far, 2:1 over Xbox.

Consumers have spoken, they don't care for your delusional fallacies.

[ZombieKiller]

Doesn't matter now...

but when the games become more powerful what happens to resolution and frame rate on a less powerful computer?

Any more powerful of a game would you have to go to 720P? Furthermore, what was left out of this game because it if any?

Not saying anything specific except the "what if" of it all?

Guess we'll find out. It's 2015...1080P 60FPS should be the standard for all gaming (if the game calls for 60fps)

[Spartacus10]

That doesnt change the fact that both Ryse AND the order would look better at a higher resolution, so you prove nothing with that.

The debate here is about what is better, not what is good. It wouldnt actually even matter that the PS4 gets the better versions if MS priced their console according to its performance.

The number of people buying a similar priced machine and game and be happy with weaker performance, will always be in the minority.

[GribbleGrunger]

The Order is 1080p. I'm not sure what you mean.

[Allsystemgamer]

Uh actually those Black bars are just a filter with no alpha luminance on the black bars part. The game is still processing what's going on behind those bars. Do research. Your agenda makes you one of the dumbest people on the Internet.

Ryse also dropped below 20fps frequently.

[typittt69]

Are you sure about that? If that is indeed true then i would like the option to remove them. It's hard to see what's going on when you're behind cover. Otherwise it's fine i guess, but it adds absolutely nothing "cinematic" to the game.

[RealityModeler]

If you're saying that The Order is designed to render at 1080P, I can see that being true for obvious reasons; however, I doubt the GPU is doing the work of actually rendering what would be behind the black bars, if that is what you're saying. If you have any links indicating otherwise, please post them, thanks.

[wsoutlaw87]

The "it's hard to see behind cover" is my favorite criticism of the order. I get some dont like it but hearing people say wft why can i see around this thing while im hiding behind it, doesn't sound bad, it sounds realistic. That is my biggest complaint about 3rd person views. Its so easy to see everything with out ever peaking around a corner.

[Kumomeme]

there are test done by those guys from digital foundry...order 1886 indeed had scene where it fall below 30fps,but when they try hardly,running around chaos like madguy...other than than,hardly fall below 30

[nicksetzer1]

Really looking forward to this game, resolution regardless.

[tgunzz]

There seems to be gamers on both sides enjoying games that are supplied wth native 1080p and upscaled 1080p formats in addition to 60fps and below. You have devs from 3rd to 1st party employing various upscaling techniques to achieve 1080p for ps4 as well as xb1, I thought by now, this would no longer be an appealing debate since both camps still play in this arena. So at the end of the day, 1080p native is far more complete by the numbers vs 900p upscaled, than by the eye. Just enjoy, and game on!

[Metfanant]

The order is not "800p" unless you consider Bluray movies in the same aspect ratio to also be "800p."

But even if we want to play that game, 1920x800 is a higher resolution than the 1600x900 that Ryse is...

[zidane1341]

Too bad that doesn't change the fact that the order sucks compared yo ryse besides graphics.

[SCW1982]

Your an idiot for thinking the order is 800p.

[zidane1341]

Gamenamefan, your a moron. Just because somebody brought up a valid point, that the Xbox upscales, doesn't mean you have to be a pretentious dick. He never said it was anything special so why put words in his mouth?

[Metfanant]

What's your point about The Order vs Ryse? Both games got shitty reviews, both games have great graphics...

[d3nworth1]

"For PS4 the best is The Order 1886, 800p, with 280 lines of nothing but black. Gameplay only happens on 800 lines, yet some ppl try to ignore this fact."

That's not a fact. The order is not 800p. It renders at a 21:9 aspect ratio. Now i don't know if you were trying to imply that Ryse was a higher resolution but its not.

Ryse 1600x900 =1440000 pixels
The Order 1920x800 =1536000 pixels

[thehitman1398]

If there is no difference, then why not have both games in both systems at 1080??

Why, because one system can handle it, while "ONE" system cant. (Lol you see what I did there)

[poor_cus_of_games]

The order is 1080p. Some idiots here.

[etownone]

Nope. Not full 1080p

That's like saying gt6 was full 1080p also

[JMyers]

@Foehammer...

Wow. You are in every article either defending MS and/or bashing Sony.

When you play a game on PC on a monitor and switch the resolution from 720p to 900 then 1080p, the difference can definitely be seen. Imagine on a larger screen?

Also the image rendered in the order is still 1080. Take any 1080 game/image and then block out the top and bottom of the screen... That's the Order. Its still 1080. Take off your MS goggles for second.

[Pixelart]

1080p = 1920 x 1080 pixels

If its not rendering the 1/3 of the vertical pixels..hint.. the 1080 part..then it's not truly 1080p. I know..its hard for you to understand with those defensive goggles on.

Fanboys will do anything to spin those stupid borders. Its pretty obvious it was to help performance. And no, this doesn't mean I think X1 is great either. Just call a spade a spade child

[JMyers]

@Pixelart

Child?... ok mate. Pretty sure I'm older than you... the name calling shows your age, or at least your mental age. If you actually read up on the game and the devloper commentary... AND the digital foundry analysis you'd know that the game is 1080p.

I am not defending the black bars. Actually I think the game would be better without them. And so what if it was to help performance? That wasn't being disputed. The game still looks great and better than anything on other consoles interms of level of detail, animations, etc.

No need to throw your toys out of your pram...

Funny how you have 5 comments total and they are all about attacking this game. Nice one troll. I think you may be Foehammer's second or third account.

[Eonjay]

Bringing up Ryse and the Order is unnecessary. Game will play the same on both and the trying to turn the higher resolution of PS4 version into a negative is really dumb.

I came here to congratulate CD on maximizing both versions.

After all Foehammer... It's not the number of pixels, but rather how you use them... amirite lol.

[Father__Merrin]

if both games play well but one runs at higher resolution ie better visuals then you would get the 1080p version

il be getting ps4 version...

[etownone]

Same here..

But I'll probably skip on this game... Unless the reviews convince me otherwise.

[xetiro]

Gameplay apart...

Native resolution of The Order 1886 matches your 1080p TV, no upscale needed so you're taking advantage of best picture fidelity you can.

Games that run at 900p are upscaled to match your 1080p TV.

I agree that you may not notice the difference at naked eye unless you have both systems side to side. Nevertheless it's good to know that PS4 is capable of run native 1080p games out of the box and the biggest point of discussion it seems to be more the disappointment of Xbox One architecture fails to target 1080p then otherwise.

[MRMagoo123]

How do you get a well said for straight out lying ???? Are people trying to give trolls more bubbles ? The order is 1080p it displays in native 1080p.

[Pixelart]

Clearly you don't understand. The GPU isn't filling 1080 vertical pixels, it's not 1080p. PERIOD.
Let me guess... you one of those that bought 30fps was for the cinematic effect too. I bet you did.

[Kumomeme]

dont sum up order 1886 situation with ryse...RAD can set the game to 1080p..but they go for 2:40:1 route instead of 16:9 for cinematic feel and take advantage over lesser pixel count than 1080p for better AA

also,1920x800 still had higher pixel count than 1600x900

[Haru]

xbox one only has a very few 1080p games mostly are 900p or below that

[_-EDMIX-_]

Its because the cost is too high. With XONE's GPU, they must make a choice. If they make it 1080p, they risk having a game that runs poorly or even looks worse base on the engine they are using.

900p I feel is best for what they are doing if they are able to keep great graphics.

Most don't really get that going higher in resolution also means they must strip features, effects and downgrade parts of the game just to get it running at 1080p.

That being said. Resolution is game dependent, not system dependent. Technically speaking any game can run 1080p on XONE and PS4.....AT WHAT COST?

Do some folks on N4G not realize that publisher putting games to 900p is for a legit reason?

It has nothing to do with not being able to "do 1080p" more like what the game performs when it IS 1080p isn't good enough to the team.

Thus...teams make the choice for the sake of performance to actually make it 900p, 30fps etc if they feel its not worth a downgrade to actually strip the game JUST to hit a number.

Ask any PC gamer to turn down settings to get 60fps, 1080p and most will let you know, your typically making the game look worse doing so.

Its more so about graphical fidelity, ie are you playing it on ultra, high etc.

Most games can play at 1080p 60fps......all settings put on low and turned off.

Sorry but it isn't a pretty sight compared to the same settings on high.

Many need to take just a little time to see what PC gamers do to change settings to get that neither PS4 or XONE are really having much to do with this whole 1080p vs 900p issue as developers are making that choice to not downgrade to hit a number.

Mind you...the games that have even done that have been NEXT GEN ONLY! And look amazing btw.

AC Unity, The Order, Driveclub, Witcher 3 etc are amazing looking next gen only titles.

I could care less if they are 1080p, 60fps, so long as they look next gen....

[otherZinc]

Huhh, GamingBolt...

Forza Motorsport 5, is "The Only" 1080p 60fps AAA Next-Generation ONLY Game on consoles, period!

So, if Joe Lazy Blow studio doesn't have 1080p ready for XBOX ONE, so what. Halo 5, Fable Legends, & Forza Motorsport 6 will deliver 1080p 60fps this fall 2015.

The PS4 has no AAA Exclusive 1080p 60fps Games for 2015, not even Uncharted 4.

GDC...This week.

[_-EDMIX-_]

The slowness. Forza 5 is also one of the ugliest looking.

Please...dear god use someone's gaming PC and let them explain to you exactly what happened with Forza 5...

http://www.psu.com/forums/s...

http://www.gamespot.com/for...

Now....take a look at what cost they went from 900p, to 1080p.

They legit had to strip many features JUST TO GET 1080p.

Soooo the reason you see many PS4 games not running 1080p 60fps likely has more to do with actually not wanting to have games that look stripped with stripped features.

I'd rather have a game run 1080p 30fps that looks next gen compared to a 1080p 60fps current gen looking game.

Again...to get 1080p 60fps, its very, very likely many features where stripped to achieve it.

I'm sure Sony wants to have next gen looking games...thus won't strip games to hit a number.

Mind you...PS4 is the strongest compared to the XONE.

Typically running a higher resolution actually means the system is likely the weaker in terms of exclusives.

ie

The games hitting 1080p, 60fps have been LAST GEN PORTS!

THUS...if XONE's exclusives are hitting 1080p, 60fps...it merely means they have engines that are closer to last gen, then current gen.

Beast engines tend to take a lot to power and its clear that XONE's main exclusives don't take much to power, ie they are lessor.

ie Forza 5's stripped features.

Put Crysis in a dated PC and HL1....chances are HL2 will run better then Crysis.....

Its because Crysis is MORE DEMANDING, has a much more complex graphical engine...must be played at a lessor resolution.

The PS4 is the Crysis and XONE is the HL1.

...its funny because your jumping up and down to ge excited about a game running 1080p 60fps like a kid jumping because they played Tetris in HD on their PC....

Cute....does it play Crysis?

Don't you think its strange all the missing features and horrible effect in Forza 5? LMFAO!

Or do you seek a number from next gen vs a quality?

Would you get a PC from someone that stated it can play games in 1080p, 60fps?

I mean..sure you would, your slow enough to seem to believe that settings don't come into play.

The correct answer for that person is.."at what settings and whats the GPU"

not "KOOL BRO, 1080p 60fps is better then 720p 30fps, thus this must be a great deal"

No different bud...

Yes...Forza 5 is in 1080p, 60fps....on low settings.

I'm fine with next gen high settings at 900p 30fps vs last gen settings on low just to have a fancy number...

Means nothing when your just playing Forza 4 in HD...with LESS features lol

[gamerfan128]

Exclusively 1080p 60 FPS console games on PS4: MGS V, CoD Ghosts, FFXIV, Tomb Raider, MLB The Show 14, Resogun, Trials Fusion, Diablo 3 (higher framerate), Project Cars, Metro Redux, TLOU Remastered, more. You are spreading Lies.

Every console or gaming device has a power budget that can be put towards resolution, framerate, or visual effects. PS4 has a higher total budget than Xbox, and good PCs have an even higher budget.

Forza 5 attains 1080p 60 fps by looking like an upscaled Xbox 360 game. PS4 is the more powerful console graphically and could run Forza 5 with better visual effects.

Halo 5, Fable Legends, and Forza 6 are NOT confirmed 1080p 60 fps. The Halo beta is 720p, Fable Legends will likely run sub-1080p. Forza 6 may hit 1080p 60 fps by again looking like an Xbox 360 game. You are spreading Lies.

You say "GDC" to spread nonsense about DX12 secret sauce. Everything you say is a Lie or baseless FUD.

[3ndulg3]

Dang lol a lot of disagrees you can tell the camp is live today.

[TheSaint]

*Facepalm* the image is still 1080p.

[fayz]

majority of sony fan girs are just plain idiots, that's why instead of making the order 1886 900p, they just stuck some black bars and called it '1080p' even though it's actually 1920x800

sony always know how to fool it's masses of idiot consumers. the order was a terrible, short QTE game, with very little gameplay & no multiplayer modes. yet it sold very well.

the visual difference between 900p & 1080p is small. fact.

keep falling for the hype.

[angelusbrz]

Damnnnn , you're clueless son.

[Echo419]

The Order is not 800p... its 1920x800. Its basically 1080p with a vertical cutback, resulting from the black boxes which are used to create a cinematic effect.

[bubblebobble]

I am a sony fanatic and would love to say sonys 1080p looks a 100 times better than xbox 900p but truth is it doesn't, infact if some1 was to look at both together they may not know the difference, same goes for 1080p to 4k the difference is really small

[Taero]

Well, if I take my 55" TV displaying a 1080p image and cover all of the screen except a 5" x 5" square the picture quality inside that square is still 1080p despite it not displaying every piece of information on the television. If I cover half of the screen does the quality of the image degrade by half? Of course not.

I understand the argument of 280 lines of black reducing effective resolution but the sharpness etc. of the remaining image is the same as if those 280 lines were replaced with blue pixels, or alternating colors, or actual image. Now it's easier to display only 800 lines rather than 1080 but I would argue against a lowered quality of the remaining 800 lines.

[Blazin_28]

The order is 1920x800 = 1,536,000 pixels
Ryse is 1600x900 = 1,440,000 pixels

The order is Full HD in 2:40:1 aspect ratio.

[gamerfan128]

The Order is 1920x800 or higher resolution than 1600x900 (900p). It is rendered in 1080p. Stop lying and trolling.

[Iluvtrim]

I know I am getting this game on XBO 😃

[Dyldog69]

Oh you mean that you're getting the lesser version

[HammadTheBeast]

Or he may have an Xbox and is getting it for Xbox?

[MelvinTheGreat]

Oh you're getting this game on ps4? So you're getting the lesser version.

[zidane1341]

Ooh because lower resolution really makes a game less even if they have same content..idiot.

[PistolsAtDawn]

Nah, I have both consoles and I'll be grabbing the X1 version too. I've done the res tests myself and the difference between PS4 and X1 is almost always not noticeable at all...someone like Digital Foundry usually has to tell us which version is "better" as far as res. Never makes a REAL difference.

However I feel X1 has some actual real tangible advantages. I prefer the controller, UI, and Network...and each one of those things makes a bigger difference than any res difference we have ever seen (not to mention res differences are going away by the day anyway).

Gaming is MUCH more than res, and as the pixels get smaller, the noticeable difference gets smaller. Comparing 480p to 720p was easily noticeable, 900 to 1080p isn't. Some of the best looking games I've played this gen are 900p....so 900p vs 1080p is by no means a deal breaker (esp being that it will be upscaled anyway IF it's 900p). Assuming a lower res means it's the "lesser" version is a very very very short-sighted approach to gaming. Holding on to something as meaningless as that will make you lose out on tons of great experiences.

[TrollHard4Life]

Said no one ever.

[HammadTheBeast]

Holy shit, the salt is real in these comments. All you said was that you'd get it on a certain console and people just jump to tell you it's a lesser version.

Who cares? He has an Xbox, he's getting it for Xbox. How does it possibly affect you guys?

[IVanSpinal]

They are angry because of The Order 1886 reviews

[Kiwi66]

And you can be sure that if he had said he was getting it on ps4 that the ratio would be the other way around as some just can't accept the fact that not everyone chooses the ps4 version of a game and so they feel like they're being personally effected by someone elses preference and yet people say there isn't a bias against ms/xbox on here this just proves that there is

[3ndulg3]

Lol well said.

[yewles1]

"These numbers are just numbers, it’s the adventure and thrill you get from playing the game that counts,” he added."

Then make it 480p and see what happens...

[UKmilitia]

exactly,resolution makes a difference.

get any game on pc and change the resolution from 900p to 1080p and you see a difference immediatly.
on my projector the difference is huge too.

while the game will still be fun when playing either version ,on a big screen every pixel size matters to me.

[Svinya]

No crap... Do you not understand the difference between a pc monitor viewing distance and a tv viewing distance and how that changes the outcome?

[deadfrag]

Yes resolution makes a diference but framerate and screen tearing makes even more,has a owner of both systems if in any case the framerate on the Witcher 3 on consoles ends up running more steadily (30fps) and smoother on the Xbox one than on the Ps4 i can assure you that the Xbox one version its the one i will by getting even at 900p. I had dragon age inquisition running on both systems and it feel better and way more smoother playing at constant 30fps at 900p on the Xbox one than at 1080p with dips below the 30fps that i experience when playing the PS4 version!Chose your taste ,i choose smooth play any day over a couple of lines of resolution anyday.

[SpringHeeledJack]

True. It's just them covering their own back. They are not going to slam one version of their game and alienate their xbox customer base.

Fact is it is very noticeable and in the year 2015 1080p should be the standard for both consoles.

[Ashby_JC]

I only have one current gen console...so for me...it is not noticeable as I have nothing to compare it to.

So I just play and enjoy!

[Spotie]

No offense, but that sounds like you're saying ignorance is bliss.

[DevilishSix]

Agreed. I have both consoles. When all else is equal it matters to me as I want the one that looks and runs the best. When given the choice I think most anyone would want the best version within their means to play.

[Mega24]

480p 120fps, now we are talking business!

[BG11579]

Funny thing as CD Projekt was saying at the beginning that there was only a very little difference between the two consoles. They even said that the Xbone was easier to develop than the PS4. Now they are defending that there is little difference between 1080p and 900p.

Kudos to them do, it seems they didn't gimp the PS4 version.

[PistolsAtDawn]

That would actually be a noticeable difference though. 900 upscaled vs native 1080p isn't without a freeze-frame and a microscope.

[PudgeyBurrito]

17% less pixels which is almost 1/5th.

[Darkwatchman]

ha
ha
ha
it's much more than just 180 pixel difference

[PudgeyBurrito]

Whoops, I mean't 44 percent. Xbone games should be cheaper by 44 percent.

[ABizzel1]

So wrong it hurts.

-_-

Depending on which way you come from it's about 305% different coming down from 1080p -> 900p, or a 50% difference going up from 900p -> 1080p.

Does it matter yes, does it hurt anyone getting it on the XBO, no. Should PS gamers care, no. Only fanboys from both sides care this much. If you only have 1 console enjoy what you have and move on.

[kevnb]

It's actually 44% more pixels, 1440000 pixels vs 2073000 pixels.

[PistolsAtDawn]

....yet so refined that it's such a slight difference we need freeze-frames to notice a difference between 900p upscaled and 1080p native

[ThanatosDMC]

^Probably because you've only been looking at 900p games. Guess, gotta defend your purchase.

[kevnb]

It's all just pr, of course 1080p is better than 900p. But the Xbox is a little cheaper, so it all works out.

[Spartacus10]

Its not cheap enough for what it does.

[MonstaTruk]

@Spartacus10

THIS. The fact that 95%+ of all games are shared between the two of them (mostly at higher resolutions on PS4), unless the price is *DRASTICALLY* different, there's no reasonable reason I'd buy an Xbox One, or if I had a choice of system to buy it on, why would I buy this game on Xbox One? Just doesn't make reasonable sense...

[jcole97]

yet it does more than the ps4...

[RevXM]

Ps3 is still king of features on the console turf.
Trey 4 life.

Ps4 is neat though in many ways, but Im still waiting for features that somehow still is nowhere to be found.
Feature wise the x1 appears fine to me, I dont own one, but from what I know compared to the 360 I think it is okay.

[Majin-vegeta]

'Little Difference Between 1080p & 900p'

Yea maybe if you're blind as a bat.

[Dyldog69]

Or trying to sell a product or defend a purchase

[BattleTorn]

Nvm, misread

[BABY-JEDI]

My philosophy is like the UK Asda advert.
' every little bit counts'
& it does for me. But I know it doesn't matter for some people which if fine.

[ion53]

I swear that's tesco "every little helps"

Asda has irritating ads that don't stop saying "hey hey hey"

[BABY-JEDI]

God dam it. I was confused with Asda price. It is tesco, your right. Now I know you truly are the supermarket King.
; )
All hail ion the supermarket king.
Now, what was Lidl's?

[ion53]

@JEDI I dunno, but I know the Aldi agenda :D

[Roccetarius]

Gamingbolt again of course, but there's not just a little difference between 900 and 1080, which has been proven multiple times now.

Other than that is just PR talk. It's unfortunate that even CDPR is making compromises to their game, due to companies releasing their walled gardens weak and too soon.

[BigShotSmoov007]

Typical gamingbolt.Com arrival lol. All they report is want resolution what game will have smh.

[TheTwelve]

Ok,CD Projekt Red. Ok.

....but thanks for making it 1080 on PS4.

[uth11]

Wait, Witcher 3 is 1080p on PS4? I thought they previously said it wouldn't be?

[bloodybutcher]

That's what i thought as well. Clearly i'm not up to date on my ''Da Witcher'' info. O_o

[ThanatosDMC]

It must be the DX12 in action... wait. Nvm, wrong dream box.

[Stoppokingme]

What resolution did the witcher 2 have on PS3? that's right, it was never on PS3. The resolution of the witcher 2 was not an issue but now that Witcher 3 is making it's way to playstation suddenly resolution is now an issue.

Sure the Witcher 3 will look prettier on PS4-there is no denying that. But the fact is that many Playstation owners will get to experience the Witcher for the first time and If it's a epic as the first two then who cares about the resolution?

[DialgaMarine]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's no such thing as a 900p TV in the US. So, if you play XBone in the US, you're essentially getting a 720p version. Now, I know 900p ain't that much worse, but having played in 720p recently after being so used to 1080p, there IS a HUGE difference.

[Fortuna]

I'm not an expert either but I'm pretty sure 1080p refers to the max resolution that tv set can display. Just like a 1080p set can output 720p, it can also output 900p.

[uth11]

No, 900p gets upscaled to 1080p.

There's an issue of 'native' resolution on digital TVs, video looks sharpest when it's at the native res. If it has to be scaled from another resolution, it often introduces a bit of a blur or other artifacts. It varies by TV to TV. Other games that were in 900p didn't look too bad after the upscaling though. It just won't look as sharp as 1080p native.

[Fortuna]

I'm happy CDPR didn't do anything shady with the PS4 version like downscaling the resolution to match the Xbox One. I know having different resolution between consoles is feul for fanboy arguments but I don't care. I want them to ensure the best possible performance and quality that each console can handle.

[Fro_xoxo]

The game will upscale to 1080p on Xbox. . which negates the native resolution. People forget this.

This is part of the reason why it's difficult to tell a difference. Although, there is a difference. A slight loss of quality due to upscaling.

PS4's GPU advantage.. which we are all aware of by now.

[MasterCornholio]

"The game will upscale to 1080p on Xbox. . which negates the native resolution. People forget this."

Then you said this.

"Although, there is a difference. A slight loss of quality due to upscaling. "

In other words your saying that upscaling negates and doesn't negate the resolution difference.

Truth is upscaling helps but it doesn't eliminate the difference in resolution. Which is why the difference is very noticeable on a 1080P screen. It isn't noticeable in a 720P or 900P screen though.

[Fro_xoxo]

I see what you're saying but, the second you upscale.
The image is stretched.

What I'm saying is, it is no longer 900p once it upscales. But it comes at a cost. So therefore, it does negate the native resolution.

If you play on a 900p screen (which is rare nowadays) there'd be no loss.

How many of us will buy two copies to play side by side? Neither of the consoles will get the best version.

Performance is the priority here. I'm glad the devs went that route.

[MysticStrummer]

It doesn't negate native 1080p if there is a cost, which you admit there is, thereby negating the reason for your comment.

Native 1080p > 900p upscaled to 1080p

The End

[kstap33]

FPS more important than resolution. Need stable gameplay first. Hopefully both versions perform well where it counts.

[MysticStrummer]

Agreed up to a point. I'd rather have higher resolution and locked 30fps than lower resolution and 60fps with most games, especially a game like this.

[Master-H]

As long as they don't gimp the PS4 version, they can sing whatever lil song they like to sing..

[TheGreatGamer]

Having tried DA:I on my 24 inch tv on both X1 and PS4 I can say I notice no difference whatsoever but when it comes down to 720p vs 900p/1080p then the difference it very much noticeable so anything above 900p is fine

[bleedsoe9mm]

Most people can't tell difference
http://www.gamespot.com/vid...

[kevnb]

27 inch screens from 10 feet away... Pointless test.

[windblowsagain]

Yeah I think people get confused.

PC there is no upscale. It's whatever you card can handle playing it at and what monitor native rez you have.

If you have a 1080p monitor and turn it down to 720p, the monitor displays it at 720p, but blurry.

xboxone will upscale, so it will still look decent, but nothing beats a native image being used on the same native image tv set.

PS4 does have 40/50% more GPU power, that's a fact.

[kevnb]

Video cards upscale as well although you have the option to let the monitor do it. Just check the driver settings of you don't believe me.

[XBManiac]

Xbox 360 had a very good escalation chip that made it for free on last generation.
If Sony or Microsoft get the same or something better on PS4 and Xbox One, it will be hard to see differences between 900p or 1080p.

Other issue is if you let your TV set or monitor to scale images. It is like a lottery, because Game Mode, Cine Mode, User Mode, etc. have different effects on different TV sets.

BTW, wait and see. We are in the second year of Xbox One and PS4 and many algorythms and filters can change. Also, DirectX 12, NextGL or whatever it cames can make a difference with image scalation on consoles. I think this way... I'm optimistic!

[ScorpiusX]

If Xbox gets a 920-970 R but it a steady 60fps am happy , cause would prefer steady Fps than a high res. Any day.

[hello12]

The order isn't 800p or 900p its slightly higher but its also not not 1080p native

1080p is 1920x1080 the order is not running at this resolution.

The order blacks out a number pixels from rendering on screen to reserve power to push the graphics even more thats just a fact it wasn't for a cinematic feel at all. The performance boost from blocking out those pixels is about 33%

The order is still the best looking game on PS4, so just shows you don't need 1080p to have a good looking game on consoles.

In regards to resolution who doesn't want better resolution but its not everything. I will say though I hate 720p games they look really bad and to be honest i hope i don't see another game at that resolution on x box

900p or 1080p there is very little difference and i am happy with 900p as long as the frame rate is stable and the gameplay is solid and graphics look nice.

[parentsbasement]

Someone just hurry up with the freeze frames in a side x side please so we can scan back and forth looking for differences.....or we could just play it.....naw , blades of grass and tiny dots mean much more....

[ironmonkey]

And still this game will sell more on ps4

[Roadrun01]

Love this debate we see all the time. Well my gtx 980 will kick the shit out of any console....and so??
When do people get that x-box dudes will defend the sligt difference and call it not significant, and the PS dudes will say that its a huge deal, throughout time, not cause it matters to the game experience but to defend their buy in console.
Lets jut cheer this game is comming.

[cruzngta]

We already knew the Bone was getting another 900p game the last time they talked about this game. PS4 gets the usual 1080p treatment as well. Most people got used to this a while ago and others are still hoping for a day one patch to hit 1080p ....just get it on your machine and enjoy it.

[kstap33]

It seems the Sony fans care more about this difference than Xbox owners. Considering a lot of people went from 360 to PS4, it seems they need some evidence they made the right switch. Fun to watch!

[corroios]

In other words, we need to sell a game and 900p doesnt matter, just buy the game, we need your Money.

That is what the studio is saying. Of course 1080p is always better then 900p. The PS4 will have the best version, but thats the reality of this generation. Nothing new here. I now that does that live in clouds still believe in secret sauce... but the numbers are clear...

Next time Microsoft can build a console with a good GPU and not a average GPU, CPU and ram. They got much more Money then sony. What they built is box tv/Kinect that play games.

[Canary]

No, no, the implicit message is "we don't know how to optimize or scale games. At all." CDPR has always been terrible at this, and given the ludicrous PC specs I'm astonished the console ports aren't 700p letterboxed.

[VP37]

It will be interesting to see the levels of AF & MSAA that each version of the game has.

Just because the resolution is 1080p doesn't mean it's the best version.

A lot of games on the PS4 have little to no AF (Anisotropic Filtering), but that's OK if it's 1080p...right?

[MRMagoo123]

The higher the res the less AA you need.

[VP37]

AF & AA are both important, no matter the resolution. Your statement about needing less AA because of higher res, is completely false.

[MRMagoo123]

No I believe you are wrong it's a proven fact the more pixels you have the less jaggies you get, try a game in 4k on pc and you will see.

[akaFullMetal]

Nothing out of the ordinary, ps4 is 1080p and the Xbox one is 900p because the GPU in the ps4 is more powerful. Should be good on both consoles, enjoy!!!😃

[pyroxxx]

I'll take 1:1 pixel even over many other things

[soul-assassin-]

You won't notice it if you only have one if the consoles ;)

[strickers]

Surely if it doesn't matter then PC,PS4 and XB1 should all be the same res. Also, why drop the res anyway? Because the console can't do it without compromise. No other reason.

[theXtReMe1]

*1080p will always look better than an upscaled 900p image
* 900p shows more visual flaws using the same effects across the board compared to a 1080p image(more aliasing as pixels are estimated and arent in the original scene to be counted by the hardware, they are added post GPU and not calculated in any way) color also tends to suffer, as the added pixels arent perfectly color matched and are more blended, adding desaturation to the overall scene. Detail in background items is lost to the bluriness that the blended pixels add(again, no effects can be added to combat this, due to it being added post GPU).

These are facts. You cant skew them in any way to change them. The only thing that a developer can do, is use post effects before the GPU dump to the scaler, taking into account the effect scaling will have on the final scene and trying to combat those by overcompensating AA and AF in those areas. Something that takes more time and effort than most developers are willing to spare for a few pixels. Especially since most gamers will not notice the issue, unless presented with a side by side comparison at a minimal viewing distance.

Basically, anyone who cares about the few missing pixels are probably posting more in forums than playing and enjoying the games themselves. If it bothers you so much... you always have the option of trading in your system for the more powerful, or buying a $150 graphics card that will make the games look and play even better than their console bretheren.

As throughout the history of consoles and gaming, there are always going to be those who want more than any one console or PC can give. Those who complain more for the sake of complaining than actually having a cause to fight for. Be happy with what you have and thank God you have it, as you could be living on the street and have nothing at all. Games are closer now, to interactive movies and visual reality, than theyve ever been and are only going to look and play better by generations end.

Now stop reading this and go play! 😜

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Well when we get the final game we can all do the comparison vids... for now it's not set in stone and we don't know final frame rate either. Call me when it's on the store shelves.

[kevinsheeks]

bu. buu. . . I don't have your number :(

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Lol...ok PM me. ;-)

[samchez77]

Xbox Fanboys this gen:

"It’s the adventure and thrill you get from playing the game that counts,"

Xbox Fanboys last Gen:

"Suck it you sony fags! get a real console, not a glorified internet ready blu-ray player you faggits. Its the graphics that matter. get a real gamiong machine."

*extreme facepalm*

[Scottyxboxoneandps4]

I love my X1, but it sure would be nice to have more 1080p games seeing as we are in 2015 and 1080p TVs have been the standard for quite a few years now. X1 is my primary console at the moment and I was a 360 fan, but sometimes I wonder what Microsoft were thinking when they were building x1.
That said, I can't knock them for the game focus they have shown since launch.

[Mithan]

Todays consoles are gutless.

Period.

Wake me up next generation when "4k consoles" come out that finally do 1080p consistently while sucking at 4k.

[angelusbrz]

Thank you CD Projekt but we don't forget about your marketing deal with Microsoft for the Witcher III, nice try though.

[GortJester]

Then we find out Witcher 3 final release:

PS4 @ 900p
X1 @ 1080p

Collective gaming communities head explodes

(Obviously jking, I'm just trying to lighten this whole situation)

#GamersLetsGame

[JMyers]

If you have a choice then obviously go for the one with the better resolution. If you don't then get it for the console you have. Duh....

No need to defend one and no need for dick waving. Both games have the same content And will be great on both systems.

[parentsbasement]

If its single player ( I don't know much about this game) I will get it for PS4...If it has any online mp or co-op , its X1 for sure as i'll gladly give up some pixels (stretched or upscaled or whatever) to be able to "snap friends" "snap party" "snap messages" "invite party to game" all the stuff that I find HORRIBLE AND BORING (or non-existing )on my PS4....

[Condemnedman]

I don't notice the difference but then I don't have the ps4 so I don't give a toss. The xbox one games look great on my Sony 4k tv.

[ricochetmg]

X1 is such an inferior console as the days go by.

[Bolts]

Classic PS4 fanboys trolling.

Differences between PS4 1080p 30fps vs Xbox One 900 30fps= HUGE!

Differences between PC 1440p 60fps vs PS4's 1080 30fpsp= Not important.

[samchez77]

ha! True. And thus the cycle continue's......

[Ninver]

The keyword here is "choice". If I have a choice I will go with the superior version, if not then I have to settle for the inferior one. Take your pic.

[ThePresentIsAgift]

Greatness awaits eh.

If it's so uber why aren't more guys playing it instead of trolling, bored much?

Boredom awaits? (at 1080p) too many five hour games perhaps.

If resolution is the meaning of life then perhaps you should be gaming on a 4k pc "without compromise" for every occasion.

[MasterCornholio]

"Boredom awaits?"

That only happens to the gamers who suffer gaming droughts. Which isnt the case with the PS4. As for the game being 5 hours long that was proven wrong. And making that same claim about Bloodborne makes you look silly.

[ATi_Elite]

Play games not resolution.

Superb game no matter the resolution.

[corroios]

The problem is that the best console version is on the ps4. Nothing more. When will they accept. What changed? Why would the weaker console get the better version? The ps4 doesnt have a cell it just easier to work then the competition.

[jonivtec]

My pc is connected to my 60 inch LG led tv....yes the resolution mather at my point.....a can see the difference clearly between 900p or so VS 1080p..the margin is small but noticeable....anybody with a tv under 50inch wont see difference...so...if 1080p is by any means the best option, in most case 900p will do the job just fine.

[ThePresentIsAgift]

For the largest period I was on <20 inch screen (the horror) could barely see jack shiz lol, only in the last seven years on a 22/24 and now a 32 inch panel. I've limited space for anything larger, so to me would I really see the "difference" probably not no.

Now in no way do I doubt that on a huge panel there's potentially a discernable difference. Until I see it myself though I'll base the professional reviews that are not destroying earlier games like Watchdogs or later ones like COD aw on Xb1 graphically as a fair marker.

"oh noes but in a millisecond frame by frame super zoomed in 4k ultra clarity display, side by side the differences are still not major"

And that's how everyone "plays" their games. Seems like tremendous fun, almost as much fun perhaps as watching paint dry on two separate walls, checking for equal coverage and brush strokes.

[SynestheticRoar]

Little differences my ass.

[3ndulg3]

I love my xbox ,do you all love your console of choice.my cousin has a ps4 and he is always at my house playing my gaming system ,I ask him why don't you buy a Xbox and he gives no reply.

[Scottyxboxoneandps4]

@3ndulg3
It's probably because he listened to the masses and maybe regrets it? I have both and to me, at the moment it is the X1 that gets the most use and what I enjoy more.
I was close to going ps4 for my primary console but with the great exclusives on X1 up to now and the better online community, plus controller it's not a hard choice at the moment.
As for the ps4 I'm still awaiting greatness....

[_LarZen_]

If you have a TV that is below 50" you would in many cases have a hard time seeing the actual resolution differences. But once you go above 50" you start seeing the differences from 900p to 1080p.

The bigger the screen the easier it is to see.

So if you have a big TV. And want the best looking experience and a console is your budget. The Playstation 4 is the only and best option.

[Bytor]

If 900p is so great why not make the Ps4 version 900p 60fps instead wasting all your time and resources trying to make the Xbox version 1080p. There are almost 10 million more PS4's out there and these developers keep alienating ps4 fans to acomodate Microsoft.Last gen they would put every thing the 360 version and give the PS3 a quick shitty sometimes broken port.

[ThePresentIsAgift]

MGSV's lower resolution on Xb1: nothing to do with Konami's long track record for shipping subpar games, even on more powerful hardware then the host machine. The same studio that charges 20+ dollars for a small demo.

Both the original Xbox and Gamecube were significantly more powerful than the Playstation 2, hosting a number of titles that were outright impossible for PS2 to run. Halo, Dead or alive 3, Metroid, F-Zero, Doom 3, Half Life 2 etc

Did that stop Konami shipping MGS2 and the Twin snakes with pathetic frame rates? Nope

Was their handling of the Silent Hill Hd also poor? You bet

Did they also ruin Silent Hills legacy with half assed releases that angered fans, yup.

PS3 only suffered a few truly ports, again sadly the developers couldn't be assed to make a go of it. There was a far larger gulf between those instances and the PS4/Xb1 difference now.

[jaydeez]

I think the real test for Microsoft will be when Tomb Raider and Halo release later this year. If they're both 1080/60, than the x1 is more than capable of running a game fully optimized for this gen. And if they do, every game is capable of it and it's the fault of lazy devs not optimizing it. Even if both games run 1080, than I don't see why any multiplat should be less than that.

[kingPoS]

Rendered at 1920x800, displayed at 1920x1080. The other 280 lines in The Order simply have nothing to show, hence the black lines.

There might well be a difference in visual fidelity between 1600x900 and 1920x1080 with the Witcher 3. Not that have a capable enough pc to run it anyway.

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