It’s Been Two Years — Where Is Suspend/Resume for PS4?

It’s been two years since that hopeful announcement, and Sony is wary to even talk about the feature, only confirming that it hasn’t yet been cancelled. When the only news you have to bring to the table after over 18 months is, “We haven’t thrown it into the dumpster yet,” there’s a problem.

[Abash]

No it hasn't, the PS4 has been on the market for 1 year and 3 months...

[ValKilmer]

Two years since the announcement, not since the PS4 was released.

[Abash]

And we should be factoring in that it was shown many months before the PS4 was available. The measuring time should be for when consumers actually were able to use the PS4, since we were told it was a feature that would be implemented sometime after launch

[Neonridr]

@Abash - when the first sentence of the article clearly states that it's been two years since it was announced as a feature the PS4 would have, not how long the PS4 has been on the market, then I would say it's perfectly valid to talk about it in the manner being discussed.

Also, the fact that they mentioned it months before the PS4 released means that they had even more time to have it ready for launch, which they didn't.

[turdburgler1080]

Perhaps the rumored March firmware update will contain this feature. Seems like a white whale at this point though.

[DragonKnight]

You know, it's been 11 years since the PS3 launched and it has yet to cure cancer. Where is my cancer cure feature?

It's been 14 years since the Xbox launched. Where's my toy story graphics feature? I mean Bill Gates himself said that's what the Xbox would have right? I've been waiting.

Hell, I'm still waiting to see what Genesis does that Nintendon't. That's been decades.

I mean, all the PS4 does is play games. It's a video game console that plays games. I mean, it's 2015. We shouldn't have to keep bringing up that we expect products to do more than what they say they are. We should always be disappointed in some way that the products aren't more than they are designed to be.

I want my PS4 to play media better than my PC, to pause my game for 8 hours so that I can resume where I left off after work (even though auto-save has existed for this purpose), plan my retirement for me, and balance my budget for the next 20 years. If it can't do those things, it's a frickin' failure of a console. If I wanted to play video games, I'd buy a video game console..... oh.

[360ICE]

To be super duper fair, there kind of is a suspend resume feature. Games are suspended when you do more demanding things like watch Netflix (it even says so in the menu). Then they resume from where you left off.

However, that's beside the point and you're absolutely right.

@DragonKnight
Weeeeell, Genesis DID technically do 16-bit graphics before Nintendo. It also played Sonic games.

Folding@Home did technically help cancer research, and I don't recall anyone promising anything more than that.

And Bill Gates was kind of a dick to promise Toy Story graphics.

But even if these were good examples, does it really make sense to point at PR hyperboles and say that they excuse the lack of an advertised feature? I mean, I want the PS4 to play games, but I also want it to do it well. If I just wanted any video game console, I'd buy a damn Genesis.

[victorMaje]

@DragonKnight Hahaha, Bubble for you!

[generic-user-name]

You obviously wouldn't include the months before it released, that would be stupid. Or else you could have said "It's been 6 months, where is suspend/resume" before it even launched by that logic.

[DragonKnight]

@360ICE: "But even if these were good examples, does it really make sense to point at PR hyperboles and say that they excuse the lack of an advertised feature? I mean, I want the PS4 to play games, but I also want it to do it well."

It makes sense to point out that people have petty priorities. Rather than be focused on games and gaming, people are making articles asking where the ability to pause and resume your game is. Really? That's what people care about? We have an industry filled with devs that say the $60 model is too high and will eventually become unsustainable, but none of them will ever lower the costs of their games to prove it; DLC and Microtransactions are SUCCESSFUL; developers and gaming media showing utter contempt for all of us; and we care about suspend and resume, and mp3 playback on a video game console.

These features are luxuries, not necessities. You can already suspend and resume your play right now. It's called Save, quit your game, come back later and start from where you saved. "Oh but I wanted to check out a walkthrough without having to quit my game." Do you have a PC? What's stopping you? /rant

@shloobmm3: Actually Sony never made that claim, the press attributed Gates' claim to both companies but it was never a claim made by anyone at Sony.

Link to prove it.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

[UnHoly_One]

Dragonknight do you have an Xbox One?

Because it sounds like you and a bunch of others here don't have a real understanding of how Suspend/Resume works.

Calling it the same as saving and quitting is silly.

Back in the NES day did you think that Zelda having a real save feature was the same as all the other games that made you write down and then re-enter a 24 digit code to resume your progress?

Because comparing that is about as dumb as what you are doing.

It's a little bit like telling somebody 15 years ago why they should get a DVR.

You don't think you need one, but once you have it, you wonder what you did before you had it, and you won't ever want to give it up.

Trust me. It's an awesome feature.

[Death]

@DK,

I'm fairly certain we can all agree the WiiU, PS4, and Xbox One play games. That's established. The only question here is why are you so against features that haven't released yet? It plays games, just be happy? I assumed in 2013 that was a minimum feature for a game console.

Use your PC for walkthroughs? If you are going to go through the trouble, why not just play games on your PC too? The idea behind adding these features to consoles is to keep gamers from wandering away from the platform.

Why do you think TV is being pushed on the PS4 with Sony's subscription service? They don't even want you turning the system off to watch Judge Judy in the morning.

You are living in the past. Welcome to the future.

[freshslicepizza]

why do we have people who don't earn money doing damage control for certain companies they like? if these people don't care about these features why bother responding? it's not like we don't have tons of other topics that pop up here.

suspend and resume is a great feature. it allows people to instantly pick up where they left off. people love it when things are more accessible and convenient.

what's next, arguing about why it doesn't matter if smartphones allow notifications for messages and e-mail because they are designed to make phone calls and all that other stuff is a bonus?

if a company advertises a feature then consumers have every right to question when those features will arrive. we don't need wannabe employees speaking on their behalf and basically trying to block anyone from speaking out about it.

yes the ps4 is a great game console but consoles do much more now than simply play games. so why whine about people who whine about when promised features will arrive?

companies like sony hire people who are able to add features to a game console. it's not like they are being pulled away from making the ps4 play games so they can now focus on suspend and resume. yes it's already established the ps4 can play games, so what's the problem other than damage control on sony's behalf for not getting it done yet?

[DragonKnight]

@UnHoly_One: You spend a lot of time telling me that my description is wrong and no time describing the actual feature in the way you'd think was right. That's called a waste of time.

@Death: "I'm fairly certain we can all agree the WiiU, PS4, and Xbox One play games. That's established. The only question here is why are you so against features that haven't released yet? It plays games, just be happy? I assumed in 2013 that was a minimum feature for a game console."

Against? I'm mocking priorities, not demanding features remain cut from the console. And yeah, I would think that when one wants to play video games, one should be happy that their console's priority is playing games. It's not a minimum feature, it's the core standard.

"Use your PC for walkthroughs? If you are going to go through the trouble, why not just play games on your PC too? The idea behind adding these features to consoles is to keep gamers from wandering away from the platform."

I'll get right on playing Bloodborne on my PC next month. Thanks for the suggestion.

"Why do you think TV is being pushed on the PS4 with Sony's subscription service? They don't even want you turning the system off to watch Judge Judy in the morning."

Because like all businesses they want to make as much money in as many ways as they can do so in a quality fashion. For gaming, software makes more money than hardware, subscriptions makes more money than one time fees and enticements are like the milkshakes that bring the boys to the yard. As stated, luxuries, not necessities.

"You are living in the past. Welcome to the future."

I am living in the Present, which is the only time any 3D being is capable of living in.

@moldybread: I see the concept of discussion and opinions is entirely lost on you. As ruler of the universe, I hereby declare that any conversation must only occur if and when 100% total agreement can be achieved. Only those in agreement with the stated opinion may speak, those in disagreement may not speak as so suggested by you.

[freshslicepizza]

dk,
"I see the concept of discussion and opinions is entirely lost on you. As ruler of the universe, I hereby declare that any conversation must only occur if and when 100% total agreement can be achieved. Only those in agreement with the stated opinion may speak, those in disagreement may not speak as so suggested by you."

your absolutely right. it is totally lost on me. that's why i come into the discussions to try and hush anyone who disagrees with me or mock them for asking why certain things that were promised haven't seem to arrive in a timely fashion.

then if that doesn't work i go for the jugular, i come up with half-asses excuses like go and look at other things on your computer if you don't like how it works on the ps4. after all everyone should have only bought a ps4 just to play games on. everything else is just gravy so don't ask for anything else and if it does come then that's a bonus.

now pay me for this wonderful advice.

you're living in the past. it really is that simple. either that or it really irks you when people put sony on stage to ask questions and be accountable. if you cannot see the progression of game consoles over the last 20 year i don't know what else to say. just like how cellphones progressed from simple phone calls to now being able to edit photos you took on it. there is no need to play devil's advocate here and question peoples priorities because they differ from yours. the ps4 is able to do more than play games without the expense of holding back its abilities to play those games.

oh and by the way, the best debates and discussions often occur when you have various views. if we all agreed on everything it would be quite boring to say the least. however when your whole intent it to basically tell people to shut up and accept what's in front of you and just be happy it plays games well isn't the same thing. but then again the concept of how we discuss things is lost on me so what do i know.

[Death]

I think we can both agree you can't play Bloodbourne on your PC. Wouldn't it be nice if you could stop while playing and use the PS4's web browser to check out a walk through and then resume where you left off? The option to leave the room and check out your PC isn't nearly as sexy as you make it sound.

As for priorities, why are you still get confused with this? We all know the PS4 plays games. It's a game console. You can have a console that plays games and still have additional features that supplement gaming. You aren't forced to have one or the other.

Think of it like a car if it helps. You can have a/c and power windows. You don't have to pick only one. On top of that you can still drive it from place to place while enjoying these crazy features. You can even listen to the radio while sitting in the nice cool a/c without taking away from the cars primary focus on driving.

[its_JEFF]

Hahah... every single company has made claims and not pull through with them! Sony, MS, and even Nintendo.

Still waiting on that 360 feature that lets me scan in my art work and make stuff for the community so I can make money, skatergirl! Still waiting for the Kinect to work like they said/showed it would when they first introduced it! Still waiting on remote-play that works so seamlessly on my PS3. Still waiting on that amazing network on PS3. All these things, and more, have not been delivered! Companies set goals during the creation of a product/game/whatever sometimes things get left by the wayside for a lot of reaons, that's just the reality of life. If that one feature is the thing that is make or break for you then that's fine and you have every right to be upset about it, but let's not pretend no other company does this.

[DragonKnight]

@moldybread: It's funny how you try to sarcastically repeat what I said yet A) You suffer from this...

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

And B) You conveniently leave out this...

"if these people don't care about these features why bother responding? it's not like we don't have tons of other topics that pop up here."

Ohhhhh, right. You can only respond about something if you have an affirmative reaction to the topic. Because if you don't care about the topic, then the likely response you're going to have is a negative or against the grain response, and everyone knows that progress is made solely by all opinions being in agreement and no disagreement or alternate opinion can be allowed. Thank you oh wise one for explaining the rules to everyone. From this day forward, one cannot post an opinion that is anything that does not fall in line with the general consensus of any given topic.

The rest of your comment is pretty much irrelevant because, although you try to make a point, you do so after ignoring your absolute hypocrisy and then even have the gall at the end to say "oh and by the way, the best debates and discussions often occur when you have various views. if we all agreed on everything it would be quite boring to say the least."

Really, if you're going to just continuously flip flop, even when you're poorly attempting to attack someone (par for the course when it comes to you), is there a reason anyone should bother taking in what you have to say and actually considering the validity of it?

@Death: "I think we can both agree you can't play Bloodbourne on your PC. Wouldn't it be nice if you could stop while playing and use the PS4's web browser to check out a walk through and then resume where you left off? The option to leave the room and check out your PC isn't nearly as sexy as you make it sound."

Can we now? But didn't you just say "if you can check for walkthroughs on your PC, why not just play games on your PC?" Are you now admitting that that was a very poor example to make? And pardon me for my ignorance, I haven't been around PC elitism in a while but, cannot one have a console and a PC connected to the same television? Cannot one have a console, and right beside them a laptop? Do not people in fact have multimedia centers set up in their homes combining various forms of entertainment in one area? I think they do. So... if one can already play games WHILE looking up a walkthrough (which can be accomplished in MANY different ways), the necessity of suspend/resume on a scale of 0 to 10 is... 0 right? Thought so.

See, many of you are very confused. You cry about these features as though the lack of them is highly detrimental, borderline criminal to be without. Especially features that never existed on consoles up until now. New features in a console is great, no argument there from me. But actually taking the time to write articles making a big deal out of non-essential features is a serious judgment problem. Do I want Sony to focus more on bringing features some people may want, or do I want Sony to focus more on bringing games, or changing pricing models, or taking a stand against poor anti-consumer practices? Hmmmmm... that's a hard one.

@Pogmathoin: The absolute irony of your mere presence here is absolutely hilarious. Enough that I'm going to give you a + Bubble for Funny.

[360ICE]

@DragonKnight

Obviously, no one is buying PS4 primarily because of suspend/resume. Nor is anyone buying it primarily because of the fancy lightbar, the ability to edit videos or being able to upload videos to YouTube. But where do we set the foot down and say "Hey, it's not okay to lie about these things". Only when it comes to the ability to play video games? Hell no.

The little features aren't strictly speaking necessary, but they make the game experience more enjoyable in sum. I'd like suspend/resume. I'd probably barely use it, but on Vita and 3DS I use it all the time -- to the point where I forget saving. If that feature wasn't on Vita or 3DS, that'd be annoying.

Of course handhelds are different, but the entire point with suspend/resume was to allow people to pick up and play from where they left off on PS4 like on a handheld. No more "Wait mom, I just need to save first" for kids before diner.

And to engage in some of the barely related stuff that to you somehow justifies false advertising, which developers are saying that 60$ is too much? I've heard plenty say the opposite, and sure enough -- games are more expensive to make and more affordable than ever (accounting for inflation)

[DragonKnight]

@360ICE: You'd be surprised how many people would be willing to approach your comment that "no one bought PS4 for suspend/resume" with the statement that they had in fact bought PS4 for that. You've been here long enough to have seen some of the apparently legitimate, yet completely ridiculous and obviously trollish, reasons why people would buy any console.

"The little features aren't strictly speaking necessary, but they make the game experience more enjoyable in sum."

Debatable. Suspend/Resume is at best an unneeded convenience, it can't have any impact on the enjoyment of the actual game as that feature would not make the game objectively better.

"No more "Wait mom, I just need to save first" for kids before diner."

You understand that that's what pausing is for right? Suspend/Resume is literally a glorified pause button. People are getting antsy over the ability to pause their game in a new way. I can only see Suspend/Resume being useful in games where pausing isn't an option such as Bloodborne. What other purpose could it serve as a glorified pause function?

"And to engage in some of the barely related stuff that to you somehow justifies false advertising, which developers are saying that 60$ is too much? I've heard plenty say the opposite, and sure enough -- games are more expensive to make and more affordable than ever (accounting for inflation)"

I'd have to do a lot of digging for specifics, but I'm also not the only one, or even the first one, to say this. Jim Sterling's recent Jimquisition about the importance of game length brings up this very thing.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[360ICE]

@DragonKnight

If you hear anyone say that they bought PS4 for suspend/resume, then you can counter them when it happens. No one has said it here yet.

The point in the article is very simple: Promises should be upheld.

You don't excuse the lack of a feature by pointing to other times people did false advertising. With that attitude, why would console developers ever deliver on any minor features? I didn't buy PS4 for dynamic themes either, but if Sony says it's gonna be there, it should be.

You're kind of right about suspend/resume being a glorified pause button. The difference being power consumption. With 3DS and Vita, you can essentially just turn off the screen and resume from where you left off days later. It's extremely practical in many cases where you'd otherwise turn the console off (overnight, for instance) I doubt the feature will be equally useful on PS4 – people play games differently on home consoles – but people do want it, and I suspect Sony wouldn't make a point out of it if they didn't think it was useful.

[UKmilitia]

it is actually there in part.
i can play any game and load up netflix and it suspends the game,then i can go back 3 hours later and continue from exact place.

not usre if i can put to sleep though will try it after.

[DragonKnight]

@360ICE: "You don't excuse the lack of a feature by pointing to other times people did false advertising. With that attitude, why would console developers ever deliver on any minor features? I didn't buy PS4 for dynamic themes either, but if Sony says it's gonna be there, it should be."

And I disagree. If Sony says it's gonna be there, I'd say the best response would be "that'd be cool" not "when the f*** are dynamic themes gonna get here already!"

I mean, you did just posit that no one is buying a PS4 for suspend/resume yes? So if people aren't buying it for that feature, then it stands to reason that the reason they are buying it is being fulfilled by Sony, that being to play games. Most companies are careful to word things so as not to make absolute statements or promises. If Sony announces a feature like Suspend/Resume before the launch of the console, specifying no date, then it's a feature they want to implement. It will come when it comes.

I really want people to think about this for a second, because too many gamers these days find the most petty things to nitpick about. This is an article asking where a pause option is. This is an article asking where a pause option is with people visibly upset that this pause option has not been enough of a focus to be released in a patch yet. Of all the things a game console (I stress game) coming from a hardware company that makes a game console should be focusing on (like API improvements for example), people are showing actual distress over the lack of a pause option.

Really?

This sounds like a good priority to focus on and talk about? Really?

See this is what people are talking about when they talk about entitlement. Giving more than a passing "hmm" to a question like this when there are definitely better questions to be asked and other priorities that are important than being able to pause your game in a way not dissimilar to the "as old as the industry itself" pause button that's a standard on controllers themselves smacks of needing a "First World Problems" meme to accompany it.

I know, next we can ask where the "turn on PS4 with a series of blinks" feature is. Because that's important. It's not enough that we can press a button on the console, or on the controller, we have to be able to have the Playstation Camera connected and recognizing 2 blinks to turn on the PS4.

[Dee_91]

I didn't even know it was missing. doubt i would use it but i'm tired of these businesses announcing stuff like its ready at any time then to have it delayed.I know you can't predict stuff happening and whatnot, but geez, hold off on the announcement until you are certain it would be available in a timely fashion... is that too much to ask?

[indyman7777]

I dont understand what is the big deal? Trying to save some electricity? I just hit the button just like the white button on my xboxone and wala!

[Hitman0769]

@Abash

Conveniently enough Sony constantly uses forward looking statements as a reason to excuse their false advertising, doesn't seem to be working out too well considering they are being sued for Killzone not being 1080P.

But by all means... continue defending false advertising, it's hurting you the gamer more than anyone.

@indyman77

That's the problem with people defending false advertising, they think it's about the individual occurrence or merits of the promised feature itself, it's not. It's about the fact that an advertisement was made for a product, and it was false. They have to be held accountable for this or they will simply continue the practice. What's next? Where does it end? Killzone wasn't 1080P, do you also believe "it's just a few pixels, what's the big deal?" or will it take something bigger for you to care and by then it's too late?

[Death]

@DK,

Yes, you can have a PC hooked up to your TV and switch back and forth between the two. You can also have a laptop sitting next to you or even a tablet. It's no different than saying you can carry a phone, a separate mp3 player, a calculator, a pager, and a small laptop with you everywhere you go. Or you can have a smart phone that does it all. With suspend/resume you can use your consoles browser without needing a supplemental device. It's not a difficult concept to understand.

The other thing you seem to miss is the fact not everyone is you. While many have a media center PC, many have a PC hooked up to their TV and many have a laptop, not all do. This is simply an option for those that want to use it. We can both agree that having options is a good thing can't we?

[UnHoly_One]

@DK

It's not a freaking "pause option".

Unless you leave your PS4 powered on 24 hours a day and never put it into rest mode, it's not the same thing.

My PS4 is completely enclosed in my entertainment center when it isn't on.

I wouldn't pause a game and then close my cabinet for two days while my PS4 overheats.

We get it, you don't care about Suspend and don't think anyone else should either.

Hate to break it to you, but you're in the minority.

[bennissimo]

Way to argue semantics and ignore the fact that:

Suspend/Resume is a wonderful feature that Sony shafted its console owners out of. PS4 owners deserve better.

I hate having to reload games on my PS4. My X1 has spoiled me.

[360ICE]

@DragonKnight
I think what you wrote is pretty obviously unreasonable to everyone, so I'll just double down on the conclusion:

I might not have bought PS4 for dynamic themes, the share features, YouTube, Netflix, party chats, or the option to connect my earphones to the controller – but I'm sure glad they're all there – and if they were ever advertised – they should be. Many people are buying the PS4, and in my eyes it's a pretty damn good console, but that doesn't mean that Sony can be irresponsible with their PR if they feel like.

[DragonKnight]

@Death: Since most of your comment would involve me repeating myself if I responded to it, I will just reply to the one thing that wouldn't be a repetition. Yes, we agree that options are a good thing. Never said they weren't. Priorities though is what I'm talking about.

@Unholy: Yes, it is a pause option. You're arguing power consumption. What kind of person would leave their game in suspend for days on end anyway? That makes literally no sense. But again, it's a glorified pause option. Even someone who actually wants the feature, 360ICE, has agreed that that's what it is with the difference being consumed power. Semantics dude.

@bennissimo: "Suspend/Resume is a wonderful feature that Sony shafted its console owners out of. PS4 owners deserve better."

Oh no whatever will I, a PS4 owner, ever do without a pause option that consumes less power. How will I live?

@360ICE: Again, I disagree. I'd be restating some obvious things again, so I'm not going to continue into why so we'll conclude here.

[Hayder]

@DragonKnight Why are you trying to speak for a community? people have their own opinions, deal with it. I would love the feature and I'm annoyed that it hasn't been implemented.

I actually have a life, a job, a girlfriend, friends and family unlike you who probably has never worked in his life and lives on these forums as a keyboard warrior waving the Sony flag.

The amount of times I could have benefited from pausing the system for a while. Last week I had to switch off half way through a tournament in Driveclub because I had to pick up the misses. I had to switch off Injustice to get my nephew from school not mentioning the millions of other times.

They showed the feature to sell systems so they should include it.

I might disagree with some things about religion but I'm not going to find everyone that has the opposite feelings and tell them why I am right, who does that!? GET A LIFE!!!

Not all of us do nothing with our lives like you... now write a huge reply and prove how pathetic you are

[ValKilmer]

And even if you're measuring from the launch of the PS4, it's still be way too long into its lifespan for it not to exist yet.

[Zeroxgi]

How about reading the article before making an ignorant comment based off the title.

[jambola]

How about people not having misleading titles

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

Read the article

READ

[Crazyglues]

Truth be told that's Sony's fault, This feature actually already works, and your PS4 already does it when you go to edit a video--

--If your playing a game and you hit the share button and save a video and decide to trim that video, the system will tell you that is going to suspend the game you are playing...

So now your wondering then why the hell is this not a thing, well My guess would be they ran into a problem / what might that problem be?

well have you ever notice how when your watch a stream sometimes you can leave that stream go to another then come back to that stream really fast and then all of a sudden the streams are not loading even if you hit re-fresh...

Well that's because it's not clearing the memory properly so it brings back a failure to load, this is an O.S problem.. meaning the operation system.

It won't be fix no time soon, if ever because tweaking the O.S is one thing, re-writing it is a completely different thing. (it will cost time and money) Sony's not going to bother working on that because they are focus on just doing tweaks --(the firmware updates)

So long story short it was never implemented right from the start so they are not going to go back and do it now, to them it's not a big deal. (sales are off the chart and no one is complaining)

[Me-Time]

Very unfortunate, because you might be exactly right.

It's more than just frustrating that they announced such a feature more than a half year in advance of the release of the console, then to be here now wondering why they let it known they are developing any announced feature without the knowledge of how long it could take.

Let's pretend that even if they thought it would take a "measly" three months after the release, what would be the point in letting the consumers know about it unless they knew it would be ready for the next update (which should really be a month from the announcement in order to include as many features as possible and for stability reasons and such)?

Long, possibly run-on sentences used. I'm sorry about that :D

[nitus10]

I have always wondered why do people want Suspend and Resume when you can do an old fashion pause/resume and a save/restore.

I can understand if the game you play won't let you save anywhere but at specific save points but in some way that defeats the challenge of that particular game. As an example if I am playing say any Souls game you literately can save anywhere, even if falling off a cliff but once you die its back to the Nexus or bonfire for you.

Other games such as Skyrim and Oblivion which are massive games let you save anywhere as well but many games only allow saves at particular places although most games (Souls series excepted since you cannot pause) allow you to pause/resume the game.

I suppose the only reason why some players want suspend and resume is probably due to them having limited gaming time and going to a save point would take too long for the time they have allocated.

IMHO Suspend and Resume for on-line games is rather pointless since that defeats the purpose of an on-line game unless you have very understanding team mates.

[Muzikguy]

Sony has been working on the PS4 a lot longer than 1 year and 3 months. It didn't just "happen". I'm actually getting a bit irritated myself. Do they need competent people over there? I bet I could do it, it can't be that hard. Doesn't MS have it?

The way I see it is it's just like a quick save to the HDD that the system would boot up on startup. Obviously there's more to it than that but it's not rocket science either way

[Me-Time]

I'm definitely irritated about this and not being able to save personal files on the console. Read what Crazyglues said in his first comment. It's seems probable to be the case for the delay. It's more than a delay. It's just bs.

AND this is coming from somebody that doesn't necessarily want the suspend/resume feature as much as I want the PS4 to play our stored music, videos and even pictures (which is what I would use the least). It's kind of, a bit like, why not start somewhere? for crying out loud. It's about expectations based from the knowledge that these features are more than feasible. Hell, even the lack of updating or adding more visualizations to the PS3's music player.
ARGHH!!!

[Muzikguy]

Visualizers to the media player irk me too. I'm sure they could get the plugins that Winamp uses or some other program that isn't iTunes. I wanted these since the PS1! It's sad when your first system did it the best, and all they had were colored balls. Playing stored media would also be great. I'd love DLNA too. People argue that there's stuff out there that does that yet your system is already on and playing. Why have 2 things playing at once on 2 separate sources. They could kill the streaming to do it for all I care. It really is disgusting that some easy and simple things haven't been taken care of. (Like folders)

[kb8mvp81]

http://youtu.be/fNAwBylWUIg
It looks like someone found some form of suspend/resume here.

[CPTN MITCHELL]

Just so everyone knows that resume suspend option is available now...go on download option and whenever you are updating a file press x and it will pause

[Relientk77]

Yeah, I hope this is coming soon, and the bluetooth wireless headset support. I'm sick of using the one earpiece headset thing the PS4 came with

[ddkshah]

did u know u can connect any headset/headphone with a mic to your ps4 controller...

[RashBandicoot]

But it doesn't work with all of them. I tried plugging in my Razer headset and didn't work.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

lol I wouldn't give that thing to my worst enemy. Been using the same Pulse Elite headphones I used on PS3. You can plug in literally any 3.5mm headset you want into the controller.

[EmpoleonRemix]

Why not buy a new cheap earbud? you know the ps4 supports any 3.5 mm jack headphone right?

[Muzikguy]

I'm about to buy myself a headset. Not one that plugs into the controller either. I don't understand why people are arguing about that. The controller had bad enough battery life. I'm not plugging a headset into it

[WitWolfy]

You can always just open up your controller and disconnect the light bar from the controller. Its not like we use it anyways...

[ValKilmer]

Honestly, it was one of the things I was most excited for about the PS4, so I'm bummed it's not out yet.

Thankfully, The Order can be beaten in a single sitting, so we should be good until Bloodborne.

[magiciandude]

Yeah, short games are so awesome because PS4 doesn't have the suspend/resume feature...

[SuperLupe]

Haha

[Mikeyy]

No need to resort to trolling. We get it. The feature isn't there yet, it's a bummer, but Jesus dude...

[nitus10]

If the Souls series is anything to go by I doubt that Bloodborne has a pause feature so even if Sony did implement a Suspend and Resume feature some game developers may want to disable it.

For the Souls series you could save anywhere in the game (even falling off a cliff) so I would not be surprised if Bloodborne allowed you to do this as well. Of course when you die you would end up in the Nexus (Demon's Souls) or a bonfire (Dark Souls) and I think Bloodborne will do something similar.

[NatureOfLogic_]

Meh, Not really a feature I care about. PS4 is fast enough that a feature like this is not so important.

[gangsta_red]

I can honestly tell you that this is a great feature to have. It's works great on Xbox One, and really comes in handy when you have to leave in a hurry.

[NatureOfLogic_]

I've used the feature on the vita, but it's not something I'm very excited about for consoles. It's one of the least features I care about atm. Most of the time, I have to time to pause, save or enter rest mode if I'm in a rush.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

@NatureOfLogic_
Vita is a handheld and PS4 is not.

[DialgaMarine]

Yeah I can't deny that this is actually a must have feature. It's one of the things that made PSV so awesome, and really should be on PS4 as well.

[UnHoly_One]

Doesn't matter if you have time or not, once you're used to this it will change the way you play.

You play until you are done and then you just shut down. No "finding a stopping point" at all.

It's honestly one of my favorite XB1 features, I fell in love with it in on launch day and have never looked back.

[Satyre28]

This is one area that Xbox is mopping the floor with the Playstation. The updates on the PS4 have been absolutely lackluster, hoping they wake up by the pressure from X1.

[InTheLab]

The day you can pop in a disc on the X1 and play it after a minute is the day we start talking about mopping floors. I'll gladly trade in that for what takes about 30 seconds to do on ps4 which is go from off to gaming where you left off...

[UnHoly_One]

Install times on XB1 are definitely slower, but since I haven't put a game disc in mine since launch day I can't say it's really been an issue for me. :D

Digital FTW.

[ghostface9]

Ill take the fact that I can turn my x1 off then turn it back on and pick up exactly where I left off on literally like I just paused the game and came back to it. Takes 20 sec to start up and just hit a and your back in

[Moldiver]

"The day you can pop in a disc on the X1 and play it after a minute is the day we start talking about mopping floors."

After its installed that becomes a non issue. Meanwhile...YOU still cant resume play.

Personally I love the feature. I rember playing styx on XB1, turning off to go to bed...coming back the next day, switching on my console...and styx was still perched on a ledge in the middle of a level. I was like.."Oh shit..thats pretty handy!"

[JPauls]

Discs? What are discs? ;)

[TheCommentator]

It doesn't take that much longer to play an XB1 disc you put in for the first time. Maybe 2 minutes. No big deal.

[SoapShoes]

Mopping the floor is a gross exaggeration. It's a feature I'll welcome once it arrives but this is just one feature. PS4s updates have been fine, I like the "release in big packages" rather than slow small updates. Share Play was the best next gen gaming feature so far IMO.

[Moldiver]

"Share Play was the best next gen gaming feature so far IMO."

maybe....if you like to play games for free at 720P due to compression. Cool feature. Terrible trade off.

[Summons75]

Suspend/resume is there it just doesn't apply to powering the system off. I'll jump from a game to Netflix constantly then when I go back to the game it picks up from where I left off. Haven't had a problem with it.

[NatureOfLogic_]

I don't get the disagrees. Everything you said is true. The suspend/resume that everyone wants so badly would save a minute or two at best compared to what we have now. Not really a killer feature imo. Load times have improved greatly this gen, this feature was needed last gen for games like MGS4.

[Immorals]

I dunno, it's extremely useful on my xbox. I go to bed, go to work, come home and pick up exactly where I left off, not at a checkpoint or last save point.

[NatureOfLogic_]

@ Immorals, How is that any different than hitting the pause button? Power consumption is the only argument I can think of, but I doubt suspend/resume would greatly change that. Suspend/resume is simply a different pause state.

[Immorals]

Yes, it's like a pause state. But do you really want to have to leave your console on for a day?

Add that up over a year, and that's a huge power saving. It's actually one of my favourite features of the xbox.

[UnHoly_One]

Saying it would only save a minute or two is not at all true.

It obviously varies wildly from one game to another, but we aren't just talking about the time required to boot up the game, we are talking about having your character standing exactly where you left him, regardless of progress or checkpoints or save location.

The time difference could be a LOT longer than 2 minutes.

And it's no different than leaving your game paused, except of course that the console will be powered on the entire time your way.

Xbox One in standby uses the same amount of power whether it has a game suspended or not, so I'm not sure where you coming from about the power consumption.

[NatureOfLogic_]

I wouldn't leave my console in suspend/resume state for a day. It would be in either rest mode or full power off state depending on the time It goes without use.

[Outthink_The_Room]

@UnHoly.......+1

A cold boot and load up on XB1 with Unity or even Horizon 2 takes like 3 minutes to get in the game fully with your profile loaded.

With Suspend and Resume, it takes roughly 20 seconds and you're back.

You're looking at 2 minutes PER SHUTDOWN. I often game in short intervals, 15-20 minutes here, 30 minutes there..etc. I would be wasting more than an hour of gaming every week simply on loading if it wasn't for Suspend/Resume.

So I'm very much anxious for PS4 to get this. Playing Resogun in short bursts is so annoying. I sometimes play for like 10-15 minutes and come back an hour later. Definitely needs the feature.

[UnHoly_One]

"I wouldn't leave my console in suspend/resume state for a day. It would be in either rest mode or full power off state depending on the time It goes without use."

I have no idea how this will work on PS4, if they ever get it working, but on Xbox One it is not a separate shutdown state.

You don't choose "Off or Standby or Suspend mode".

You have the full off "power saver mode".

And you have "instant on", which is basically standby.

I only ever use Instant on mode. I never have my Xbox fully off unless I'm power cycling it. I've played entire games, like Dying Light for instance, over the course of a few days, without ever saving/quitting/re-loading my save game. It was suspended every night and resumed the next day and that's it.

It wasn't until I beat it the first time and was playing again in co-op and also playing other games that I ever saw how it handles a game load and where it starts you off, etc.

If you turn your console all the way off, then it's not a feature for you.

[hangdang]

I think it's pretty clear that this article is talking about suspend/resume in terms of turning putting it to sleep and having your game up once you wake it back up. Pretty much exactly what the Vita has.

[Summons75]

Yes I know that but there has been a couple articles about this and they all are basically saying Sony has completely lied. They didn't, it's there just maybe not to what Sony wanted as the final outcome or to what gamers expected but it is there.

Something to be mad about is video playback from external drives. They promised that a long time ago and they haven't even brought it up since. Folders as well, adding folders to the Ps3 was the best choice they ever made why it didn't automatically carry over is beyond me. This line up of games and apps just looks messy and cluttered.

[hangdang]

Yup. I agree about the folders. I wish they were there. I'm waiting on DLNA support more than anything. And that hbogo app would be nice too.

[RzaDaRazor]

It's in the same place as the DriveClub PS+ Edition, in Sony's library of false promises.

[Palitera]

Remember 60 FPS, 1080p?

=\

[cabinotier]

hey, lots of Indies and remastered titles there.

[Josuey]

Microsoft has things up in the air too.
Wheres the power of the cloud?

[DragonbornZ]

This isn't about them. And hopefully it's shown at E3 with crackdown.

[Moldiver]

"Wheres the power of the cloud?"

Wont have to wait much longer for that one.Crackdown end cloudgine says hi. My drivatar says bye at 180MPH.

[MannGamer]

Yeah I wonder how long it will take for the Xbox One to be three times more powerful with the cloud

[swishersweets20031]

it's under the greatness never happened tree.

[TrollityTroll]

2nd article today, you're on a roll:
http://n4g.com/news/1679011...

Pull your pants up, your fanboy is showing.

[gamingisnotacrime]

Ps4 has better hdware for gaming. Xone has better hardawae for everything else, and high quality gaming

[Lucreto]

It could be down to the amount of engineers they have working on new features. Sony might have fewer so it takes longer to get the features out.

I would rather they take their time and avoid any buggy features causing problems.

[Stiffler]

So they should be acquiring more engineers to support their well selling console, no?

Agreed with avoiding buggy features, but was there not a big stuff up not long ago with many people consoles failing to boot up after a major update? I'm not dissing, genuinely curious as I heard a lot of people speaking up about it at the time.

I think PS4 owners deserve more engineers working harder to push out updates seeing how phenomenally well it has sold. Just an opinion, don't hate me! :)

Anyways, hopefully PS4 bros can experience suspend/resume soon, it really is super handy for consoles.

[hangdang]

I'm also waiting on DLNA and an HBOGO app. The PS4 gets into games pretty quick, so I'm not dying for suspend/resume. What I'd like are the htings that my PS3 and other consoles can do. At least my Wii U has me covered while my PS3 is at my girlfriend's house.

[jukins]

Yea I mean seriously not only HBOgo but all the cable channel apps. Sony should be leveraging their partnerships in the movie tv business to push these apps on the Console. I can't think of a channel that I haven't seen a Sony picture/tv show on and it would benefit all around.

[Clown_Syndr0me]

Where's the free Driveclub? Finally GTA heists are coming but I spent a while asking where they were too.

Games companies lie to us too much.

[WizzroSupreme]

That's a long time to wait. Get it together, Sony.

[ghostface9]

x1 can already do this but I am sure since its on there and not on ps4 its worthless right...

[PrinceOfAllSaiyans]

Something the Vita has been doing for Yeats. And Xbox fanboys think its something unique to their console.

[Immorals]

Pcs have had hibernate for years and years. Or yeats :p

[kneon]

Hibernate on PCs has been nothing but trouble for years and years. It's just not worth it.

[Scatpants]

I've been wondering this. That is one of my favorite parts of the X1 is that I can just turn it on and start exactly where I left off. Even the Vita has this feature I don't see the problem.

[jukins]

I like Sony but they always do this. Announce a cool feature then it comes super late or not at all. Sad that the vita could do it day one.

[StormLegend]

Meh... Could care less about this.

[GNCFLYER]

Its a nice feature to have, it really is, I use it for Vita all the time. It's just fluff though, not a game breaker.

If we get it great, if not, that's fine too.

[ThePresentIsAgift]

Couldn't care less-but enough to bother to post L0L. Its a pretty sweet feature and I'm sure Sony will add it and a bunch more in the near future.

I remember feeling that with regards to the ps3 xmb and operating software as a whole that it didn't come into its own until around 2010. From then on I loved it, sold mine in the summer of 2014 and still miss it now. Tis a shame for sure.

Lets be honest, launch ps3 was practically broken and leagues behind 360's interface and they managed to make it really nice.

That's not the case with ps4 now and they definitely won't take four years to improve areas.

[xx4xx]

Suspend/resume is a next gen feature.
Guess the PS4 isn't next gen.

[GNCFLYER]

That was a good one xx4xx. How long did it take to think of that.

[_LarZen_]

I have thought "oh damn it would be nice to have a suspend/resume now" option about...... zero times since I got my PS4...

[masterfox]

Yes, I remember that feature when they announce it where the hell is it Sony ?, still don't care too much now I already had a blast with my PS4 since day one, the only thing I can say is thanks Sony!! for me the PS4 it totally delivered on its promise, gaming experiences that you only can find on the PS4, I tried to give the opportunity to game on the Wii U, PC or Xbone, but the games released for those consoles are uninspiring and booring, Marios ?, Halos again?, on PC games full of glitches and bugs almost all of them ?. Sorry but no thanks.

[Dizzydrifter1]

I've suspended my games a few times on Xbox one turned my console off (standby) and few days later I'm like holy crap that's right where I left off. I'm was just so use to restarting the whole game.

[towelie1288]

Pretty whack ps4 doesn't have this feature....
But the fanboys deny this and say meh......
On x1 the feature is really sweet, put my console to sleep after playing single player and then when i get home the next day from work and power on. Its exactly where i left off no loading at all.

Pretty sweet feature if you ask me but i am sure ps4 will get it someday and i will use it on uncharted

[chaosx]

Maybe its more a hardware feature rather than a software feature.

[Ryan741]

Its an absolutely fantastic feature, hope it comes to the PS4 soon. Honestly, its a God send sometimes.

[legionofthedoom]

As a ps fan even I agree they need to get on this. Or at least give us some low down on how they doing with it. No info is worse than at least a titbit of info.

Dont be so secretive sony

[skyrimer]

For me this is really frustrating, and even more seeing that X1 has this feature working for quite some time already. I play in short bursts of 15-30 minutes and waiting for the console to start and load the game is really annoying, and sorry, not all checkpoints are 2 minutes apart, so sometimes you lose quite a lot of play time by reloading a checkpoint. It would be ok if they hadn't promised it in the PS4 conference. Also I love fighting games, and being able to suspend in the training room and resume for testing a few combos, or in the online room for a quick match, then suspend again would be great. Anyone that has been using DS, Vita, 3DS know how useful this feature is.

Besides what really thrilled me about this was that I'm a Vita user and I dreamed with remote playing from anywhere by resuming my game, picking where I left off and suspending again. It was a feature that really influenced my decision of purchasing PS4 vs X1, congrats if you can play games 3 hours straight and don't care about this, but for people with limited game time it's godsend.

[wheresmymonkey]

as far as firmware features are concerned the PS4 is miles behind the xbox one now. Hell i cant even plug an external HDD in and i could do that straight out the box with my WiiU.

[Animal Mutha 76]

This might have been covered in the comments but I'm reasonably sure that the PS4 cannot support this feature - at least not in the same way as X1.

The X1 has a separate 8GB non volatile ram chip on its mobo. This allows the current game state to be flashed from main memory to the other chip, allowing power down of the unit into standby mode. I think you will still lose it all if you power down completely.

Great feature - allows me to return to my HMCC every night.

[fullmetal297]

This feature along with DLNA streaming is the only the services that is keeping the PS4 from being better than the Xbox One.

[Twinblade]

Without those features, the ps4 is still better than Xbox One.

[JPauls]

There's a lot of "it's already got it" comments - examples such as being able to switch and share, or bounce over to Netflix and back.

That is not suspend/resume. That is not turning your console off (at any given time) and being able to turn it on and hop back in.

The XB1 (likely) takes advantage of existing Windows infrastructure, including the use of hiberfil.sys which allows it a quick startup (when not in a fully powered off state). The suspend / resume of a game also means the system needs to store the memory state, the game function and even profile connection to this state - and trust me, the XB1 struggled with this for a while (Skylanders SWAP FORCE was horrid for resuming and forcing you back to the title screen because the profile had been signed out at some point).

The fact of the matter is that when it comes to the TV, the "pause and leave it" isn't something gamers can always count on. Someone else may want to use another function, or a parent or co-inhabitant may simply switch the machine off- and lose that progress you had made.

Not a big deal, right? When you have it, though, and you're surprised when you fire up the game after having had your console off and it comes back to where you were, it's a fantastic thing and I hope Sony can get this out to you guys sooner rather than later.

Listen, I'm not interested in console bipartisanship - I simply want the best for all gamers. Suspend/Resume? It's awesome, and Sony should have it. Sony also promised it two years ago, and they should be held accountable to live up to those promises.

[Twinblade]

It's not coming, companies lies all the time.

[kenshiro100]

It'll be implemented hopefully.

[TRS_Gear]

This isn't your typical fanboy flaming, but a sincere inquiry.

What is Suspend/Resume, and how does it compare to the Xbox One's ability to turn the console on and resuming where I left off? I never noticed if this ability was present or not on my PS4 because I always turn it completely off when done playing on it. I really don't think its that big of a deal either way.

[MannGamer]

Is this such a great feature??
Cause I can't use that playing Destiny since i will get kick out of the server, and a lot of games have auto-save feature. And this feature is totally worthless in multiplayer.
And I think most single player game has a pause button.
This is a nice feature to have but nowhere near critical.

[Father__Merrin]

wrong title, it makes it sound more worse

only in opening paragraph does he mention "announcement"

I hope it arrives in the upcoming update seems like a nice feature to have

[Tzuno]

chill out boyzz it's on Suspend/Resume...

[Condemnedman]

I love this feature on my xbox one 😆

[hanaghansarah]

Love this on the xbox, i hope my ps4 gets it soon!

[RedstonerMC]

Sony:Here guys let us pull features out of our ass.