After The Disappointment Of The Order: 1886 Sony Needs A Good Showing From Bloodborne For E3

Skewed and Reviewed have posted an opinion piece stating why Sony needs a good reception for their upcoming game Bloodborne leading into E3 after the critical drubbing that The Order: 1886 has taken from critics. The article also asks if the game is up to the challenge but thinks it is.

[Fro_xoxo]

Rest assured Bloodborne will deliver. It is a gamer's game.

From Demon's to Dark. You know what to expect. Thorough game-play.

"Let strength be granted so the world might be mended. . so the world might be mended" ~ Maiden in Black

[Garethvk]

What I played of it was tons of fun. I loved the graphics and the mix of fluid yet brutal combat. At times of was reminded of GOW in the way you just closed in on them and slashed away before giving them a point blank shotgun blast.

But you can see my point, with E3 in June they need to have a good response to this one going in so their new announcements are met with the proper enthusiasm as if it were to go down the same path as The Order:1886 then consumer confidence in their pending exclusives could be shaken and thus give Microsoft some momentum.

[bicfitness]

People keep saying this "PS4 has no good exclusives" mantra as if it matters, or is in any way true, and nearly each and every month the console outsells all of its competitors. What is selling the console then? LSD induced mania? Sorcery? 'Gaming journalists' need to wake up and check themselves, their fear-mongering does not reflect popular, consumer opinion.

I wouldn't be surprised if we get a press release in the next few weeks trumpeting one or two million sales for The Order. Critics are becoming increasingly irrelevant in a consumer driven market.

[Inception]

"then consumer confidence in their pending exclusives could be shaken and thus give Microsoft some momentum"

Dude, where you got that crystal ball, Pachter shop??? ROTFL.

I guess some people really desperate to see his favourite plastic box turn the table.

[Pogmathoin]

The Order is a victim of fanboys hype. This game was hyped to the extreme as a system seller, and I am sure the game will sell well, but sometimes the focus is on what the game will do for the PS4 rather than on what the game will be..... Fanboys are damaging games, damaging developers.... Let it go, enjoy the games and if you do not like it, nobody really cares if it upset you.... One mans junk is another mans treasure..... Let people find out for themselves rather than from your own bitterness....

[mhunterjr]

@bicfitness

I'd wager it's the word of mouth following the e3 2013 and the better performing mulit-platform games since then...

If I'm not mistaken, Destiny sold more PS4's than Infamous did... and it was available on 3 other platforms.

[breakpad]

i think in an era where indies are considered normal games ...normal AAA games are considered system sellers that was audience mistake not Order's ..the game is solid and fun but those hypocrites journalists wanted to present it as the new ace game that Sony is relying a lot upon it ..and obviously after that an onslaught of bashing the game was began also serving and benefiting other interest from competition

[OrangePowerz]

I think less "enthusiasm" from gamers for most games would be a good thing. It would cut down on disappointments because of too high expectations.

I stopped being "excited" for games in my twenties. I still look forward to games and greatly enjoy them, but I keep my expectations in check. It doesn't happen often that I'm really disappointed with a game and often when that happens it's because a game is broken like BF4 or Unity or when it uses stupid stuff like Unity with their companion app and website to unlock in game content (finally they removed that).

I still remember all the complaints last year on why Destiny is bad. In a lot of cases it came down to people having huge expectations and expected the game to be different than what they imagined in their head of how it would be. Make no mistake the game has it's flawes and problems but it wasn't a disappointing or bad game for me, but I also didn't I wasn't enthusiastic about it.

On the other hand I love the Metal Gear series and that is one of the few games where I would still get enthusiastic about. Because I have my preconceptions of how and what MGS should be I don't like what I see with MGS5. For me MGS isn't an open world game. To a large degree it's my own fault that I'm not looking that much forward to it because in my mind I have a clear picture of how it should be and it doesn't line up with what the game seems to be.

[AliTheSnake1]

I am pretty sure this game is coming out before E3.

[johndoe11211]

@cupid

You just basically summed up the console wars and the gaming media's part in it in a nutshell. Could not have said it better myself.

[dafegamer]

where are the MS games? People always talk about Playstation Exclusive, while Microsoft has nothing to offer the first half of 2015. I don't get this
MS bias from Gaming Journalists

[Silly Mammo]

@zidane1341 -If the PS4 is PS3.5 in your mind, what do you consider the X1?

[badz149]

and...the media continue their agenda to label The Order as a disappointment.

[solidjun5]

well said Cupid

[thorstein]

The problem lies in your clickbait title. "After the disappointment of the Order..."

Speak for yourself. I certainly wasn't disappointed in it. And after reading through many, many of the comments in all of the reviews, it is quite clear that those who actually played it aren't disappointed in it either.

Some of the reviews were blasted straight out as pure clickbait (4 out of 10?) others were praised for being honest (7-9 out of 10). But what made the worst reviews?

Mostly bold faced lies, coupled with bizarre reasons for giving low scores. One review claimed it was an "on rails shooter." No, words have meanings and this was anything but an on rails shooter. "The length wasn't justified by the price." Since when has this affected review scores. When the game has a price drop to 39.99 will those review scores go up?

No, because they got their clickbait. And that is all it really is. We saw it with Destiny, Dying Light, the Order. Even Watch Dogs. Go back and play that one and then compare it to the vitriol that it received. I'm not saying it was the greatest game ever, but it was hardly a terrible, broken game.

And of those titles I just mentioned, why are some games, that were broken at launch BF4 given higher review scores by the very people who blasted the Order which is a complete, unbroken game.

Nope, just more jaded hateboys who hate gaming but have no other career path to follow so they continue to write copy that will garner hits.

There is a reason people constantly read Game Informer. Hint: They don't write clickbait.

[thorstein]

AliTheSnake1 + 8h ago
"I am pretty sure this game is coming out before E3."

@Ali

Ssshhhhh! Clickbait artists don't want people to know that.

Here is what I imagine happened at their *ahem* "offices."

Chief: The number of page visits is declining, quick, write something awful about the Order!

Journo: But I haven't played that game yet!

Chief: Too bad, complain about (types "the Order" into google) the length and that it has too many cinematics.

Journo: Okay, what else?

Chief: (Consults "Thesaurus of Overused Clickbait Cliches") Say it's repetitive and generic. Yeah.

Journo: A steampunk story set in London about the Knights of the Round Table, as descended from King Arthur, hunts down and battles Werewolves is "generic?" Will people even believe that?

Chief: You may be right, say it was underwhelming or a disappointment instead.

Journo: Got it.

Chief: Good, post it on N4G.

[abstractel]

The Order hasn't disappointed me. Not perfect, but I don't feel it has hurt the PS4 like this article claims.

Bloodborne is a given. It's a nerd's videogame. I'll love it I am sure, but that doesn't mean I am not appreciating The Order for all that it is.

I understand Order's criticisms, but I feel it's groundbreaking in other ways. if they can iron out some things, The Order 1887 (?) should be fantastic.

I love that Sony takes risks, and always have with their first/second party studios.

[memots]

LoL an article practically 2 days after the game comes out saying its was a disappointment.
We didnt see that one coming ... /s

[user5575708]

the only console that actually has great exclusives is the WiiU

[strifeblade]

@cupid

Dumbest crap i have ever read on this web site. Seriously the crap you spew is unbelievable.The sales of those games horizon and overdrive are bad so that makes them ... duds?The sales for games do not speak for the quality of the games themselves so to speak. If that was the case call of duty and gears of war are better than uncharted and last of us according to that logic or standard. next you forget the install base is more almost 2x as much as xbox one, so its only natural games will sell more on PS4 because of the install base- not because of the AMAZING quality of the game -seriously its that simple. Next you forget to mention when you talk aboout new ips and exclusives that titanfall has eclpised in sales every single sony exclusive on ps4 released to date including killzone, infamous, despite half the install base... Tak about an accomplishment- so does that mean sales speak for quality? Here is the fact- this generation AAA sony exclusives on meta have been scoring far less favourable than the xbox one AAA counter parts. And Msoft in the same timespan have released just as many AAA games on x1 if not more than sony. Thats a fact- You cant hang on to your metacritic ratings anymore so you shift the argument to sales and conspiracy propaganda theories? Bravo- for presenting pathetic arguments.

[Cupid_Viper_3]

@ strife

Titanfall was being offered for free with every with every newly Discounted Xbox One for at as low as $329. it barely outsold Killzone SF by 300K. Eclipse?? AND NO! the TLoU: Remastered have "ECLIPSED" Titanfall's sales with much less time on the market....SO GTFO...

The sales for games DOES NOT speak for the quality of the games themselves. But it DOES SPEAK for the amount of people who for themselves ENJOY those games.... You guys have taken on the point to try and tell people what they should or should not ENJOY, and to you and those guys, I say big F@*K You! and spare me from your CONCERN TROLLING.

"Here is the fact- this generation AAA sony exclusives on meta have been scoring far less favourable than the xbox one AAA counter parts. And Msoft in the same timespan have released just as many AAA games on x1 if not more than sony. Thats a fact- You cant hang on to your metacritic ratings anymore so you shift the argument to sales and conspiracy propaganda theories? Bravo- for presenting pathetic arguments."

http://www.listwar.com/rele... will change your life, but I'm sure it won't stop your trolling...

I won't even go into how full of sh!t you are with statements like that.... Do me a favor, put me on your ignore list or something, because you're going on mine, TROLL.

[xDHAV0K24x]

price and pedigree is selling the ps4

[Pintheshadows]

@bicfitness

'What is selling the console then? LSD induced mania?'

LSD is surprisingly useless when it comes to buying things. It is good for having conversations about WW2 era tanks. Anyhow.

I actually think The Order's biggest issue is the fact that it shows you that it could be a terrific third person shooter. And then it tears you out of it for a ten second cutscene to open a door. And then gives you thirty more seconds of walking and then more cutscene. I wanted more of its action. Stop denying me!

It is a very staccato 'game'. And if they had just gone, 20 minutes of game and then look at our wonderful cutscene (like Uncharted) it would of nailed it. I genuinely believe that the material, and a lesson is present here to do something terrific with a sequel.

The problem is it gave me so much and then snatched it away too soon. It gave me a great fight in a snooker hall and then it stalled for a long time. There is a lot of unneeded cutaways here. Make no mistake, the production values on display are ridiculous. It is staggeringly gorgeous (deal with it, it looks better than RYSE, it just does) and the voicework is impeccable.

The thing that guts me though is how good 1886 COULD of been. I hope the IP lasts. I hope RAD takes the core of the actual game and develops it into a 15 hour experience with exploration and combat. TLOU style. That is what I hoped this would be. It so isn't. Imagine a Lycan being framed like a clicker.

I would give it a 6 if I had to numerate. On my scale that is above average with some significant flaws, but enjoyment can be found. It is like Airblade on PS2. Yeah, The Order is like Airblade, But with Lycans. And without hoverboards. And not as good as Tekken 3 but far better than Rise of the Robots.

[cooperdnizzle]

At least Sony is trying and releasing games. Blood born next, MlB the show, Until dawn, Children of tomorrow, Hell Blade and uncharted. MS haven't had crap. Call me crazy but, you can't win by not having games come out!

[christian hour]

@bicfitness

I have been doing lsd derived hallucinogens a lot more often lately I must admit but... I'm 100% positive that's not the reason why I bought my ps4. I have a talking giraffe on a walrus mount with jetpack feet to back me up on that, he knows what he's talking about man.

[thekhurg]

The Order isn't disappointing.

[BallsEye]

@bicfitness

good marketing with false advertisement.

UC
http://i.imgur.com/A2EPJ7R....
(on top of that e3 demo was 60 fps and claimed to be in game level running)

Deep Down e3
http://images.gamersyde.com...
(it even had HUD! go watch it)
vs real game
http://gematsu.com/wp-conte...

Killzone: Shadow Fall MP resulution is 960 x 1080 but was advertised as native 1080p.

Ahh could go on.

[andibandit]

@Cupid

" http://www.listwar.com/rele... will change your life, but I'm sure it won't stop your trolling... "

He said AAA, you only proved his point with that link

[Cupid_Viper_3]

@ and I and it
"He said AAA, you only proved his point with that link"

Ugh...just no. I have already FACTUALLY dismissed all of his "lies".

Titanfall on XBOX One did outsell TLoU Remastered, so that's lie #1.

Lie #2, he deliberately tried to create a fake argument that sales does quality, knowing full well that "quality" is not what is being discussed in my post. So I explained to him that sales are directly proportional to the number of people who ENJOY a game. I wouldn't exactly call Minecraft "quality" but more people enjoy Minecraft than 98% of all games ever made. games are made to be enjoyed, regardless of budgets, or a critic's opinion or sales.

Lie #3 he claims that Microsoft has released just as many, if not more AAA exclusives which consistently scores higher than their PS4 counterparts this Generation. And the link I've sent is pretty clear on that.

Released AAA exclusives

PS4. XBox One
LBP3 79 Dead Rising 78
InFamous 80. Sunset Overdrive 81
The Order 65. Ryse 60
FF: ARR 86 Titanfall 86
MLB 14: TS 83. Forza 5 80
TLoU:R 95. Halo: MCC 85
Driveclub 71. Forza Horizon 86
GG Xrd Sing 84. Killer Instinct 73
Killzone SF 73. -------------
Injustice GAU 80 -------------

As you can see, the PS4 not only have more exclusives AAA, (or otherwise) but it Averages a score of 79.6/100. Where the XBox One not only has less, but averages less as well, at 78.6/100.

He's a troll spreading lies and trying to carefully frame the argument with "AAA games" or "retail exclusives only" etc. As if people only enjoy retail games, or exclusives only. Sadly though, which ever way you slice it, the PS4 comes out on top.

[Cupid_Viper_3]

I did the table above on my phone and it did not come out correctly.

Released AAA exclusives

PS4: 79.6/100

LBP3 79
InFamous 80
The Order 65
FF: ARR 86
MLB 14: TS 83
TLoU:R 95
Driveclub 71
GG Xrd Sing 84
Killzone SF 73
Injustice GAU 80

10 games total with an average of 79.6

XBox One:78.6/100

Dead Rising 78
Sunset Overdrive 81
Ryse 60
Titanfall 86
Forza 5 80
Halo: MCC 85
Forza Horizon 86
Killer Instinct 73

8 Games total with an average of 78.6

So the real question now becomes, where is the "concern" for Microsoft not only releasing less exlusives, but also also lower rated than the PS4's on average?

[strifeblade]

@cupid

so the sales speaks for the amount of people that enjoy them doesnt change the fact xbox eclusives sell more than playstation exclusives- what was the argument back then? Major advertising? We are speaking about the orders quality in gameplay in terms of it being a good game... yknow? im sure plenty people will enjoy it- doesnt change the fact it is critically considered a bad game and people can enjoy bad games if they put production values ahead of everything else, that is exactly the point you proved. Nice, i love watching how you struggle to defend the order.

So what sony spent 10s of millions? does that make it autmatically a good game?Just because you throw millions at something doesnt mean it will turn out well. look at the movie industry.

Nextly Nice averages to fill your agenda but you forget about knack? big launch exclusive made by the legendary playstation architect. got a 54, that brings the ps4 exclusives average to 77.3. Nice try.

The fact is though there are more ports on ps4 you are relying on in your averages. Last of us is a 1080p port- not a remake, masterchief collection actually has a halo 2 remake when it came to graphics and cutscenes that look nothing like the original- most people couldnt tell the difference for last of us. it was a 1080p port like halo 1 , halo 3 halo 4, were ports- should i count their metas as well? Injustice is a port of a 1 year old multiplat on 360.

But seriously you disculded knack to prove a point? Nice try fanboy and im no troll, you claim shift the argument to quality, well the article is talking about the quality of the order- then why are you shifting it to quality speaks for the amount of people buying the game and go on to compare xbox games? sorry but i have to put you in your place.

[christocolus]

@Fro

I agree, Bloodborne will be alot better than The Order. Going by previews of the game alone you can tell that the critics will love it. IGN, Gamespot , Eurogamer etc all seem quite impressed with the game so far, also the guy behind the game isn't a novice in this genre.He has made similar games in the past and they've all been really good.

[thorstein]

It's a Sony exclusive by From Software. I will love it. It, however, will get as much hate from these clickbait journos as the Order or Infamous Second Son received before photo mode was introduced.

Or Kilzone SF. The point is, no matter what it is, if it is an exclusive it will get flamebait articles.

[christian hour]

Exactly, and the reason is pure and simple. Editorial pressure. It's been the same the last 2-3 gens, whichever console is the biggest selling will get the same treatment.

If you bash an exclusive from said console you'll not only get hits from the competitions userbase looking to feel better about/affirm their purchase but you'll also get hits from enranged fanboys spouting PR buzzwords in defence of the title, and then you also get the rational few from both sides of the fence coming in and trying to talk sense in to everyone else.

Just like how Elvis's manager would reportedly sell "I Love Elvis" and "I hate Elvis" merchandise.

[Software_Lover]

I expect 9-10's for Bloodborne. It looks good.

[blockcoc]

"Reach inside me" lol

[Fro_xoxo]

I did my best not to add that bit. ehehe

[AudioEppa]

"gamers game"? Ok.. lol

It's one thing if the order isn't you're kind of game, that's totally fine. But don't pull that bullshit that it isn't like any other game past or present.

I swear certain people in this gaming community (not aiming at you) really just want industry to be boring. I welcome any developer to do whatever they feel like and if I want to buy it, I will, if I don't, I want and the order was a definite buy, but me liking it is not the point I'm trying to make, the point is that people are acting like this game was something different from what it was always been about lol the developers even told us all since day one that this game was a heavy cinematic experience, yet people forget it an wanna act surprised when it's released.

Now is bloodborne my kind of game? Nope, but I hope people who wanna buy it, enjoy it. But seriously a lot of gamers need to chill with this attitude that you gotta shit on the order (or any game) just to feel good or cool about the kind of games they like.

[PriestGascoigne]

Well, he kinda can shit on Order. Have you seen the reviews. It. Is. Shit. There needs to be new games and not remakes for the PS4, thats why people are really excited. The Order got it's hype from being a new IP. The reviews settled that the hype was for nay, sadly enough. But he just used Order as an example because it did come out near the time that bloodborne is coming out. Hell IDK why they even judged the 2 side by side, let alone anywhere near each other. But theFro is right, it is a gamers game. I got one of my friends who played assassin's shit all day and I was able to get him into dark souls. He does nothing but plays dark souls now, and he wants to get Demon Souls and Dark Souls 2. Maybe you don't think the same, but it's mostly true.

[Clunkyd]

Next up....Bloodborne hate.

[peshkavusCA]

Whoever hates Bloodborne is already dead. Bloodborne is God's creation.

[Syntax-Error]

^^^ Spoken like true sheep ^^^

[maniacmayhem]

I agree with you Fro..

This is the PS4 game that I am looking forward too. From the original director and producer of the Demon Souls and Dark Souls 1 which are two of my favorite games last gen.

Also if I am not mistaken there's co-op which will make this game that more exciting and probably even more challenging.

Next month is going to be fantastic. 1st day purchase for me.

[joab777]

No way Bloodborne isn't good.

[IrisHeart]

Correct. Bloodborne is a game not a movie for shills.

[skwidd]

Ah shut up, article! Who claims The Order is a disappointment? Lots of gamers are in love with it!

[bangoskank]

I watched the first hour of it and, yes, The Order 1886 is a beautiful snooze with hardly any gameplay. It's just a showcase for what the PS4 is capable of. Reminds me of what Shadow of Destiny was for the PS2, except that was a decade and a half ago and excusable at the time. Also much more enjoyable. Those who are "in love" with The Order are Sony sheep who are easy to or have poor taste in video games.

Bloodborne will be great as we've seen it in action and have proof that it looks great and will deliver in the gameplay department.

[skwidd]

@bangoskank
What a sweeping statement to give an opinion and declare anyone who thinks contrary is a >enter name call<.

Here, let me try this on you:
"You're just a skank like your name says and anyone who gives you an Agree is just a blind follower with no valid opinion".

Stay classy

[bangoskank]

@skwidd
I'm a gamer who's tired of watching the industry being ruined by greedy corporate jerks and the people who will spend top dollar for the crap that will be fed to them. It's disgusting. I've been a gamer for over 30 years and this has gotten progressevly worse in the last few years. That's why we need to support indies and innovative games with fresh ideas, not this gaudy garbage.

[skwidd]

@bangoskank
I respect your opinion and I too have been gaming since Pacman was released on the table top arcade. I earnestly think The Order is a work of visual art that I throughly enjoyed from start to end. The price is fair to me because I was immersed in a beautifully realized world with excellent characters and some solid gameplay. I, in the same way you show disgust towards the industry in this way, am disgusted at the low scores the industry has given The Order. All I'm saying is we have differing opinions but there's no need to call people fanboys and sheep. I respect your opinion and you can vote with your wallet and hard earned cash.

[PriestGascoigne]

Have you even seen the reviews? I bought the game and it had about 45 minutes of gameplay and 5 HOURS of god forsaken movie. Wasted my god - damn time. *Rage in the background*.

[UKmilitia]

i really enjoyed the order.
doesnt deserve the bad reviews it got imo.

[showtimefolks]

I am sure the order 1886 will sell well enough to where sony won't consider it a complete failure. And i wouldn't be surprised if ready at dawn are bought by sony and we hear about a sequel e3 2016

[assdan]

Exactly. The lowest I see this game scoring is mid 80s on metacritic

[Inception]

Lol looks like my prediction was true about Bloodborne will be the next target after the media succeed to downplay The Order.

I expect more clickbait article like this from "Why you shouldn't play Bloodborne because it's take too long to finish", "Why Dark Souls is better than Bloodborne", "People will buy more Xbox 1 than PS4 if Bloodborne turns out dissapointing", or something clickbait like that closer to the release date of Bloodborne.

[marlinfan10]

Did you even read the article? Or are people already getting their victim cards ready for bloodborne? All he's saying is bloodborne needs to do well after the disappointment of the order. He says in the article that bloodborne was one of his favorite games at pax prime.

"I loved my time with the game at PAX Prime and although it was a challenge, I found it and Until Dawn to be my favorite PS4 games at the show. The fluid motion and brutal close range combat was a real thrill and the ability to sneak in a weapons blast in the midst of the ballet of blades showed just how much bloody fun this game could be."

Wow he's really hating on it isn't he.

[joeorc]

On the same token:

"After The Disappointment Of The Order: 1886 Sony Needs A Good Showing From Bloodborne For E3"

The very point was , this tries to make it out the over all consensus of the Order:1886 was that its a Disappointment!

But the truth is its not a over all Consensus of the game but the majority being Quote Disappointed in the Order:1886 is conjecture nothing more nothing less at this point.

If that was the case Of being Quote a Disappointment to the "Majority" of gamers than there would not be open talks about this. Some may say it would be with fanboys in fact that is pretty gross conjecture to even try to make the claim this early anyway that this game is a disappointment by the "Majority" this eearly; example even going to Meta out of 60 votes right now 23 of those are positive votes, and the 31 are mixed which is again far from being disappointed..those are "Mixed" good and Bad with reviews take on the game. that's not being Disappointed either way. Its both good/bad

The idea that some are trying to paint the game as One big disappointment with the Majority of gamers based on a very small sample size is kinda ironic.

Out of over 600+ user reviews which again being Mixed votes that say's that its really nothing more than interest in the game is really high. Because the sample size is too freaking small.

Another point above if the game sell over 1 million copy's would that make the game a disappointment?

The game has not been out long enough to see the general consensus yet, because there has not been enough freaking time for it to gather enough of a larger sample size to determine such a metric.

[marlinfan10]

Lol that's not what the guy was saying that I replied to, at all. He clearly said "Lol looks like my prediction was true about Bloodborne will be the next target after the media succeed to downplay The Order." As in the media (this article) is trying to downplay bloodborne like they did with the order. My reply was to show that he isn't downplaying bloodborne and even said he really enjoyed it.

[Sweep14]

Considering that The Order will sell more than Bloodborne, the latter doesn't "need to do well... (but it will do !)

[Rachel_Alucard]

@joe

You know you could of just wrote, "It's too early to call the Order a disappointment by the majority," instead of going off on a console warrior crusade with the essay.

[ricochetmg]

The people have spoken screw the media

[Mega24]

Totally agree with you on clickbait rant. But At the same time, expect people to be a bit more reluctant to buy the next exclusive for PS4. The Order isn't really disappointing, but lacks content to justify $60, if they came out and said that all future DLC would be free, then it could improve on it's sells, but people who bought it and discovered the short gameplay portion of it wont be coming back to it. The Order is one of those games that is all about the story (kind of like Quantic Dream games), and short of the gameplay. They should have advertised the game as a Interactive movie style game, less as a third person shooter.

[WelkinCole]

And all the while the PS4 continues to outsell comp

[Garethvk]

For the record, I own a PS4 and it is my console of choice. I also was one of the few giving plenty of press to The Order that was not doom and gloom and I also have praised up Bloodborne often so your way off on your Xbox Fanboy stuff as PS4 is my favorite and we are very much looking forward to Until Dawn and Bloodborne. What I said was true though, if Bloodborne comes out to bad reviews and fan disappointment how could it not have an impact on E3 as Sony would see their two most recent AAA titles for the system met with bad reviews and fan disappointment. I do not think it will happen but anyone at Sony who was being honest would not say oh its ok if Bloodborne is a failure/disappointment and we are happy with how The Order was received.

[Kayant]

"For the record, I own a PS4 and it is my console of choice" - Ha good old I own thing so can't possibly said anything bad about it.
Please save your BS this is not the first time you have written something flamebait or poorly researched.

"how could it not have an impact on E3 as Sony would see their two most recent AAA titles for the system met with bad reviews and fan disappointment." - Hmmm let's see. Well you know the fact the Bloodbourne is released in March and E3 is about 3 months after.

[THC CELL]

The order is not a disappointment sorry but it's not.

[Garethvk]

You have seen all the scathing reviews right?

[shallowpoint]

I have played it! It's a great game!!!

[Errefus]

caring about reviews....

[joeorc]

Yes go look at meta critic; out of 60 reviews

23 positive
31 mixed
6 bad

Now when only 8 break point is between both mixed and positive how the hell can anyone say that is a Majority of the view about this game is its a bad game or hell even drips of mediocrity?

Mediocrity for a game generates lots of interest?
If So, you can bet Sony and Ready at Dawn wants this interested into every game they make!

Example:

On the Order:1886

Its only freaking 8 vote's out of 60' that are from mixed to positive!

While Dead or alive had 11 reviews As example:

Had

4 mixed
7 positive
0 bad

Now again Dead or alive was out 3 full days before
And for User votes

Dead or alive 42
The Order: 687

The point is if the game was so bad, and another game was so good where is the interest into the higher rated game?

Stats also say quite a bit more than just a games rating, it also shows developers the interest into your game..good or bad, it shows interest!

That is far from a bad game!

[ger2396]

What's your point? Reviews are opinions. Luckily we all have different opinions. It's not a perfect game, but I'm positive there are gamers who will enjoy it.

[tkato]

I'm playing it right now, and while I do have my problems with it (small text makes me crazy, the weird way they divided the chapters), the game is quite good I must say.

Visuals 10/10 Best in a game thus far, and the art direction is wonderful which makes it look better then PC games as well (I have a beast PC)
Audio 9/10 VO are amazing, sounds fx are great.
Gameplay 8/10 There isn't that much of it, but it's not broken, it's just standard TPS shooter, nothing special but nothing is broken.
Story 9/10 It's interesting, the setting is well done, It's a new IP that makes me wish I could know more about the world it takes place in, the characters are flawed and humane, I like it.
Length 7/10 It's OK I guess, I don't put that much thinking into the length of a game, as long as I enjoy my ride, I'm guessing I'm about 7 hours in, on the 10th chapter right now, I don't bother with checking the time I spend on a game.

Overall I'd give it a 8/10, it's a normal TPS, new IP, lovely visuals, and an interesting story.

BUT, if you're looking for an action packed shooter look elsewhere, if you like Telltales games, TLOU and these sort of games I'd advise getting it, there's a strong emphasis on story development, less so on the actual gaming side, which in my book is great, too much bloody shooters anyway, TPS is already one of the most generic genre out there, The Order doesn't try to revolutionize on that front.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

Reviewers do not speak for the entire gaming community.They may speak for little kids and people who can't think for themselves, but they definitely don't speak for me. Reviews are nothing more than opinions and so is claiming that The Order is a disappointment.

I like this game. It's a 7.5 only because of the constant large button prompts appearing on screen. The black bars don't affect the gameplay, the gameplay mechanics are excellent, nothing worth mentioning in the way of bugs and glitches, the voice acting is pretty good, not stellar, but good enough to keep you engaged, and there aren't that many quick time events, the button prompts are mostly for inspecting items and there's a few that are related to combat, WHICH ARE QTE's, but it's not as bad as some people would have you believe, unless you're used to playing games like COD, Halo, and Assassin's Creed instead of games like Outlast, The Walking Dead and Wolfenstein.

My opinion is not any more or less relevant than some person writing a review. Reviewers are not experts, they are people who get paid to write opinions. THAT IS A FACT!

[Jihaad_cpt]

You mean other people opinions. Yes other people have opinions that are different. I think the Order is pretty damn good.

[Whirlwind_Fanfare_08]

@Garethvk

Yeah, and most of them are bull@$!#.

[DigitalRaptor]

Do you know what a disappointment is Gareth?

It's something you were expecting, that doesn't end up like you were expecting. The people are to blame, not the game. Luckily, The Order: 1886 is everything R@D said it was going to be. There are just as many positive reviews as bad ones, and the pre-launch hate and concerns were basically a setup and a warning for people to not let their excitement get the better of them.

The only "disappointment" here are the double standards and lack of consistency from the gaming media, who have welcomed cinematic gameplay with open arms practically ALL of last-gen, then turn around and warn people against it the following generation. People out there who have actually played it and reported as having enjoyed it know that the REAL disappointment comes from the all-encompassing sheep mentality of those trusting in untrustworthy review systems, and supporting the people who have proven their disgusting double standards, and lack of consistency in places where professionalism is supposed to maintain consistent standards.

[ziggurcat]

@gareth:

you mean the prescribed "reviews" that utilize the exact same talking points that makes it look like there's been an organized effort on their part to discredit the game?

[WelkinCole]

Do reviews matter more than gamers enjoyment of the game?.

Virtually everyone that know that have this game and actually played it have nothing but good things to say about it.

[MysticStrummer]

"You have seen all the scathing reviews right?"

I've played the game and enjoyed it, so it's not a disappointment to me.

It's selling very well, so it's not a disappointment to Sony.

I have problems with it, but I have bigger problems with the lowest review scores. So far I'd give it an 8 at the least.

[thorstein]

Gareth, It is time you read through these comments and admit that you are wrong. Very, very wrong.

Have you seen the agreements with his statement? And do you see the responses to your own article? Maybe you need to take my advice, once again. The gaming community (as shown here) does NOT agree with you. Own that you wrote clickbait and are being called out for it.

And since when do reviews mean that a game is good or awful.

Great reviews for BF4... game was broken at launch.

Terrible reviews for Destiny. People have racked up weeks of game time.

Nice try but reviews are nothing and everyone has realized this thanks to the Order.

[Rachel_Alucard]

@Hiddenmission

I know you are paid by a 3rd party to spread positive opinions about certain games around the web. 2 years ago you went out of your way making and submitting RE6 articles constantly praising the game before it released then when it released and bombed you went around complaining on the lowest scoring sites and trying to deflect the bad scores on other reasons. That's why your name is HiddenMission, you have a hidden mission for spreading untruths around for a paycheck. Sorry but I don't believe any of your shilling.

[MALVAD0]

ps boys dont play reviews we play games

[porkChop]

You have played the game right?

I have, and it is FAR from a disappointment. The game is awesome, and definitely much longer than 5 hours for me.

[T2X]

Well, I can see the majority of people seem to go by reviews only. Which is the mistake. If more folks played it first themselves (Like back in the old,old days!) where there was mostly word of mouth, maybe things would be different as far as hyping things into the stratosphere beyond reasonable expectation.

[SoapShoes]

I'm currently playing it and honestly really enjoying it!

[DaGR8JIBRALTAR]

Not at all. It might not be what certain people wanted it be but that doesn't make it a failure. The story and shooting mechanics are top notch, the game is a decent length and the graphics are second to none.

[marlinfan10]

I'd have to disagree. When a game that was supposed to be one of the top 3 games this year scores a 65 average on all its reviews, I'd say that's a bit disappointing. Ryse scored around there, 62 I think, and that's been considered a disappointment since day one. That was also a launch game which should get more slack than a game released over a year after launch.

[joeorc]

Again that is only 62 freaking review sites, thus 62 freaking people!

The idea that these review sites hold such sway over gamers on what to or not to buy based on an opinion that they have does not mean they = the Majority of consumers opinion of a game!

I never bashed Rye, I never go out of my way to freaking bash any game, because I am a game designer by trade for mobile games, and was in pen and paper and board games before that.

I do not have to bash the game because I know what these developers have to go through just getting funding and hold from one project to the next pitching sometime the same freaking core game design over and over again to some time many in the same investment group with one or two new people that others who hear the pitch before, some try to discourage a green light to those that did not yet hear the pitch.

The Idea many on here let such a small number of People determine if your going to buy a game or not is pretty ironic, since if you never take a chance and always play it safe, you may not get to experience a number of games they you may even enjoy in the first place.

Yes $60.00 is quite a bit of cash for people to put down on a game, but on the same token you can always wait for the price to drop. And trying to say, well that still makes it a disappointment is again Ironic, you are still wanting to play the game if you say that you have an interest in playing the game. If that means as a developer i may not make as much money upfront with you as a consumer than thats the breaks.

No artist has everyone like his or her art as a matter of fact many times its only after you are dead in the ground or ash, do they sometimes care about your art. Many times we do this because we love doing it. Some are even jaded enough because many times the gamers that say they will give you a chance do not because many times they are a fickle bunch most of the time.

[Rachel_Alucard]

@joe

God calm down and try writing 1 or 2 sentences instead of making a whole essay out of every single statement.

Again, you could of just wrote, "I don't believe a group of reviewers opinions means they are the majority of what people think."

[NeverHeavyMan]

Had I paid any significant attention to The Order's reviews, I wouldn't be thoroughly enjoying it to the degree that I am. I think many of its criticism(s) are VASTLY overblown and it is the final nail in the coffin, from my perspective, about reviewers. I'll continue to avoid them like the plague, unless a game has "dud" written all over prior to release.

[u4one]

I was just playing it 20 min ago and I disagree. Yawn fest. Bloodborne will be a better received game. I think the order set the bar pretty low for it

[Battlefieldlover]

Sure you were. I just jumped on n4g like i usually do before going to bed after playing just 1 hour of the Order and yawn fest my hind end. I'm seriously bummed i have to get to bed and take my girl to breakfest tomorrow keeping me from digging into this game more. I'm half tempted to start over and see if she wouldn't be up for watching me play (which usually is a no go). I think the way this game is set up (from what i've seen so far) that she would enjoy watching it. It's like a movie i get to take part in :)

[TheJacksonRGN]

E3? Bloodborne comes out next month.

[Greyfoxdbz]

This is what i thought. What does E3 have to do with Bloodborne at this point.

[TheLastColossus]

Nope, you didn't get it.

[Garethvk]

I know that. If you read the article it states that the game is the last AAA Exclusive for the PS4 from Sony likely to hit before E3 and as such they do not want to go into their showcase in June coming off two hyped exclusives that disappointed.

(From the article)
Sony can use a hit game with strong critical approval going into E3 in June as the last thing they need is for their two big 2015 AAA exclusives to be met with bad reviews and worse, discord and disappointment from their fan base as they attempt to build even more momentum from their E3 showcase.

[TheJacksonRGN]

Even if Bloodborne disappoints, they will be fine. Bloodborne is a niche game so its high review scores and game praise won't mean much for the mainstream.

Uncharted 4 at E3 will be great for them. Combine that with whatever else they show, exclusive or not. Sony will be fine.

What is shown at E3 is most important, not what came out before.

[Malice-Flare]

why E3? this game comes out next month. oh, they cycle begins again. now that The Order: 1886 got carved-up by the internet, now its Bloodborne's turn...

[marlinfan10]

It helps to read the article. It's saying bloodborne needs to do well leading into e3 after the disappointment of the order. He's not hating on it at all, he even talks about how much he enjoyed bloodborne when he got to try it

[Malice-Flare]

why would an event made for hyping new & upcoming games be affected by this perceived "failure"? only a fanboy thinks like that...

as for The Order: 1886, we do not even know if it IS a failure, especially now that it isn't just retail sales but digital sales as well...

[L0wlifeGamer]

Bloodborne 3/10 - No sunshine. No flowers. Not colourful enough. & It's an PS4 Exclusive!

[Grave]

Too much blood 4/10 - IGN

[thorstein]

*Consults "Thesaurus of Clickbait Cliches"* It is (scans page) generic! And, and (flips page) underwhelming, a veritable disappointment.

Priced at 59.99 -2 pts. (Polygon)

[MysticStrummer]

Too long and not enough cutscenes. 1/5

[BABY-JEDI]

LoL, so true of this generation of so called journalists.
: D

[babis1974]

I think it's not a bad game, for me it's a 7. My opinion.

[mac_sparrow]

Currently reading up on news while my wife has her turn on the order. I can see why many don't like the cinematic style storytelling that's punctuated with action scenes, but personally we're very much enjoying it. As far as I can see, it has its place and without a variety of approaches and genres the industry would suffer.

As I have said, I can see why many gamers nowadays don't enjoy this type of title, but personally I say well done RaD and get cracking on the next one.

[DigitalRaptor]

"but personally we're very much enjoying it."

Again, here we have more evidence that these reviews have no grounding on what people out there playing the game thinks about the game. Most people who have commented about the game outside the proven unprofessional critics have said that they are enjoying it, as am I, as are you and your wife.
-----

"As far as I can see, it has its place and without a variety of approaches and genres the industry would suffer."

THIS is what I have been saying in response to the recent opinions being shared. There is a false (and utterly stupid) sense of concern about the influence this game will have on other developers going forward, when in fact, R@D had a very specific vision that the vast majority of developers don't wish to pursue. So that concern is misplaced.

The industry (and me) would suffer if the gaming media succeeds in snuffing out experiences like The Order: 1886. Might I add, these are the kinds of experiences that they had no problem praising only 5 years ago, when Heavy Rain came out.

[mac_sparrow]

Exactly, I think it highly unlikely that developers around the globe are going to replicate this type of experience in light of the over zealous scrutiny that the order has faced.

At home we're taking turns and making sure neither of us sees anything new or gets too far ahead of the other.

Interesting that you should mention heavy rain, as it was exactly the title I thought of within 30 seconds of starting the order. It also happens to be one of the few video game experiences I am unlikely to ever forget, particularly the guilt at not knowing the answers to several crucial questions about that trip to the park. That and the last of us are examples of exceptional emotive responses to narratives, and whilst I prefer the last of us as a whole, it does nothing to diminish heavy rain in its own right; an idea many would do well to apply to the order.

[HammockGames]

You're not alone. Not even close. I'm only a few chapters into The Order, but am loving it so far.

And check out the user rating on the PSN for those who own the digital version.

https://store.sonyentertain...

In short, a lot of people seem to have a far different impression of The Order than a lot of reviewers.

[Apex13]

Errrrr isn't bloodborn out in March ans E3 in June? Maybe just bad wording.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

Who says that The Order is disappointing? Just because reviewers write reviews criticizing the game doesn't mean that the majority of gamers think it's a disappointment.

For those of you who think otherwise, Destiny says hello.

[XanderZane]

I'm waiting for Bloodborne as well after cancelling my Evolve and The Order 1886 preorders, I need something worth playing on my PS4 besides Diablo 3 and some decent Indies like Transistor & The Swapper. At least HellDivers is out on March 3 and will hold me over until Mar 24th when Bloodborne is finally released.

[Kos-Mos]

Diablo 3 is very generic.

[urwifeminder]

The new hope good luck with that hope it gets the praise you guys seem to need it.

[MysticStrummer]

Hope for what? PS4 is already dominating.

[vastolorde666]

Lets get this out of the way,blood borne is an awful, difficult,repetitive game.it looks like a sewn together mambo jambo difficult fest of a game. Now my review 1/5..

1.The game is too difficult.

2.lack of character mobility like sunset overdrive's mechanics is a let down

3.i fail to understand why the game doesn't have a compass to show where i should go next

4.comparing it to fable i feel like this game is trying so hard to create an open world action rpg but it falls short.

5.The lack of a main character like master chief or the gears of war guy( i don't know the name) leaves me little to like the character i created.

6.The game is not innovative..

Please save your 60$ and buy something worthwhile like rise of tomb raider.

Emails other journalists to crush sony exclusives.collects cheque at Microsoft hq..and heads out to look for another sony exclusive to crush.

[WeAreLegion]

The Order was not in any way disappointing.

[DigitalRaptor]

Precisely.

We knew EXACTLY what was in-store when we got ourselves ready for that game. It's a shame others could not do the same, and proved their own double standards and lack of consistency when judging other games of a similar ilk. Just look at Heavy Rain for the best example of this.

The only disappointments here are either fictional (from sheep fanboys who always wanted this game to be torn apart by the critics and will never play it), or coming from the people out there who have played it and enjoyed it and know that the standards which the gaming media uses to judge games are both hypocritical and appallingly held, and untrustworthy going forward. My trust in the gaming media (who also hated on the excellent Dying Light and IGN who gave Alien Isolation a 5.9) is tenuous and is waning ever more quickly after this game.

Everywhere I look, on all sorts of forums, I see people saying they enjoyed or are enjoying it, and they are the small majority. They appreciate it's flawed as a game, but appreciate what R@D put into it and ultimately are having fun. There will always be people out there who say they disliked ANY kind of game against public opinion, but just like DriveClub, the people who have bought and played it and commenting positively on it outweigh the haters of all kinds.

[Spotie]

This cinematic, story-driven game is exactly what its creators set out to make.

2/10.

[T2X]

Unless you were expecting something completely different. WHich some may have been. I personally love it so far. And I would Pre-order a sequel right now.

[DialgaMarine]

The Order was an unfortunate when it came to reviews. Still playing through it now and enjoying it, but it was obvious most reviewers would tear it down, seeing as it's not Mario, Gears or Halo.

BloodBorne, on the other hand, is untouchable. Reviewers gave Demon's/ Dark Souls quite a bit of praise, and this is literally going to be the ultimate successor. Any reviewer tearing it down will be doing so because they either never played a souls game or they just don't like the fact that it's a PS exclusive.

[marloc_x]

To be fair, the USER reviews are quite similar. Granted, a lot are just throwing a "1" or a "10" either way out of spite.

Am very glad that many are enjoying the game :)

[Battlefieldlover]

I checked Meta too and those "user" reviews people want to point at are awfully fishy. There are far far far more 1,2,3 then there are 10's and when you click on the "user" that posted such an astonishingly low score they either have a brand new account with no other reviews or its chalk full of 10's or Overdrive, Titanfall, Ryse, while getting in there 3 sentence review for giving LB3, Infamous, Killzone....1's. I mean hiding isn't even a thing anymore for trolls.

[bangoskank]

The game is an overpriced piece of sh!t. Geez, are you people that blind?!

[trywizardo]

they need to show a new good IP , and show the game with open world dinosaurs (IDK what it is but i heard about it a lot ...
edit : its robot dinosaurs xD

[MasterCornholio]

I dont believe that Bloodborne will do as bad as The Order 1886. If we go by their last few games it should review quite well.

[HentaiMasterRace]

Doesn't Bloodborne come out next month?

[unicron7]

Disappointment? I thoroughly enjoyed the time that I played The Order last night. Good stuff all around. A bit cinematic, but it tells you that right on the box. You know what you are getting. Different strokes for different folks. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's terrible..it's just your opinion. I didn't care for Titanfall that much...but does that make it a bad game? No. People prefer different things.

[feraldrgn]

More concern trolling.
After the initial reviews, now there are people & reviews praising it.
Funny that.

[N8]

The thing I don't like about these articles is that its not like the competition is pumping out exclusives. Ps4 will be fine .

[u4one]

I'm confident bloodborne will be better received than the order. It would be almost impossible not to be. The order has pretty much been panned by critics and contrary to anecdotal opinion, user scores are similar. Metacriitic user scores are actually lower than critic scores, though probably a bit exaggerated by overzealous opinions on either side of it. Bloodborne will be a bit more of a niche game but it has a solid base to launch with, proven by the souls titles. Challenging, solid gameplay, depth, replay value and beautiful to look at. The cornerstones of a solid game. The order missed most of these check boxes.

[MGRogue2017]

This article is bullshit. The Order: 1886 is most certainly not a disappoint in the slightest.. It's an technical masterpiece.

[bluegoblin]

Amen. Just finished the game and I do not regret my purchase. Took me about 10 hours to beat which is fine by me

[Predaking77]

After the disappointment?

What about all the good reviews about the game? Are the haters really going to ignore all the positive reviews? Wow, so now this is how the industry behave?

Also, do we have sale figures? Is not going to be a disappointment for Sony if the game have good sales.

[LiViNgLeGaCY]

What disappointment? I'm not disappointed in the slightest. I'm about 5 hours in and I'm absolutely in love with the game so far!

[Braid]

Why should The Order be deemed a disappointment though, because some mainstream gaming websites gave it an average score? I pity those who play games depending on scores, which in itself is a corrupt, malfunctional system. You can either jump on the hate bandwagon or enjoy the game like the rest of us do, your choice.

[MrZweistein]

Bloodborne will deliver and will be a good game. BUT the type of game is still niche even it has a vibrant community the level of difficulty that comes with it is not for everyone.

[Jaqen_Hghar]

A man is really enjoying The Order 1886. Already feels like a full game and a man still has a couple chapters left. Apparently it ends abruptly so hopefully that means sequel! The black bars were forgotten about after the first cutscene honestly they're not noticeable at all. There's plenty of gameplay it's only cutscene heavy at the start and the story has picked up nicely. Some really epic moments so far and RaD is taking all the right steps to being another one of Sony's flagship studios.

[bluegoblin]

Just finished the game. Absolutely jaw dropping graphics and the gameplay was phenomenal. I really don't understand all the hate this game is getting. If this game had online multiplier i would put it as GOT material. As it stand it's a very solid 8.5 for me.

[Jaqen_Hghar]

A man never really plays online MP but it would have been his first GotY contender with a couple more hours of story and possibly co-op since you're basically always with a partner. QTE was handled perfectly when you're fighting the lycans in the knife fights it had a man on edge.

[TimeSkipLuffy]

Currently I only believe in Naughty Dog to deliver a high profile game that everyone is going to praise (except a few of course). I don't think it is wrong to continue to get new exclusive IPs out. They are the foundation of the greatness that comes later hopefully.

[PS3and4_HAS_GAMES]

I have a feeling it won't disappoint in sales. People are going to buy this game regardless.

[Speak_da_Truth]

Well the order didn't disappoint me because I played the game for what it is and not what I wanted it to be and going with that approach it was a great experience. Now I can't wait to play bloodborne as well. Truth is my xb1 is just sitting there. Once in a while I'll turn it on to play FH2 but all multiplats I play on Ps4. So I'm not really worried about Sony and the Ps4.

[Redemption-64]

So can i ask one question, what does MS have coming out within the next 4-5 months, honestly, you can out indies if you want, but we all know why company has more indies.

[brew]

I'm not too worried about Sony for the rest of the year -

Internal -

- MLB The Show 15 - San Diego - should be good at least
- Tearaway Unfolded - Media Molecule - should be wonderful
- Uncharted 4 - Naughty Dog - should be great at least

Published -

- Bloodborne - From Software - should be fantastic
- Ratchet and Clank - Insomniac Games - should be good at least

That's a solid 5.

Until Dawn will probably be polarizing , and that's ok.

[moodgamer]

"After The Disappointment Of The Order: 1886" - What disappointment? I'm having the time of my life with this game. I really don't understand the reviews, seriously, I don't. Not going to talk about how the game looks or how it plays, it's fun, immersive. As a PC Gamer I was really impressed of how the game runs and looks. Very cool indeed.

[QuickdrawMcgraw]

I thought The Order was exactly as advertised....No more...no less....I don't get all the hate....If it is not to your taste...that's fine...but some seem to be wishing it was a type a game it is not....and has never claimed to be...But Sony can't really expect a fair shake here on N4Xbox...

[iTechHeads]

As if The Order 1886 is in any way something Sony needs to atone for.....
Most people don't realize this but The Order is not a 1st party game. You wouldn't blame Sony for its quality(or lack thereof) anymore than you would blame Microsoft for Ryse.

[jznrpg]

It is also a good game imo. Who gives a f*ck what other people think.

[OldDude]

I have to admit, regardless of if The Order is a disappointment or not, its incredibly entertaining to watch you guys in ultra-defensive mode. It really is something to see. Sony has done a fantastic job of marketing to its demographic. Never say die!

[Elda]

Sales will tell if this game is a dissapointment or not though sales still doesn't mean a game is bad or not sometimes it's just that people don't catch on or some people just get swayed from playing,I'm definitely enjoying it.

[teo72]

Bloodborne is going to be EPIC, but it will likely not be at E3. The game comes out in March and E3 is in June. They do not present old games at E3, only new ones...

[ScorpiusX]

Watch it be another flop. Lol

[ScaryMonkey]

Actually Ive been playing The Order for a while now and in spite of the fact you gareth and others like you have tried to convince me otherwise, I'm actually not disappointed in The Order at all, sorry.

[bej]

The order 1886 is a magnificent game that is sophisticated & unique. The storyline & superb graphics are very well done & having been set in an underworld movie type of scene in the Victorian era of London is brilliant. This game beats half the crap that is out now, like destinies grinding & glitches or call of duty same boring gameplay style. I'm very hard on rating games coz they all seem some how rushed without proper testing. The order I'd easily give 9/10, it's fresh, it's straight forward, it's an old era master piece with an dark underworld feel.

[MannGamer]

You guys will be surprise to see that the Order will sell a lot more worldwide than Bloodborne

[elterrible]

Okay, first of all neither Sunset Overdrive nor Forza Horizon 2 were duds... SO actually sold as a bundled in game in addition to those games sold separately and the consoles sold out.

Second, dogging the competitors decent games just makes you look desperate.

Third, give this game a few weeks for the hype to wear down and then see what people say about it. Ryse was a very fun game that got abused by the press and yet, 2/3rds of users loved the game.

I'm going to rent it and see what I think of it before I decide to buy it.

[elterrible]

Also, they're right!

If this game continues to be perceived as an average title then it is a series of strikeouts for Sony.

I say this as a PS4 owner.

LBP3 was glitchy and Drive Club was broken at launch.

Infamous was okay but, shorter than I expected.

Killzone was boring to me and knack was as well.

Some of the Indy titles were okay.

Also, the average metacritic score fell below the Xbox One so, if the games are rated higher on average for the XO then, they're right! The PS4 needs a big hit or it is going to be several months squandered with Quantum Break hitting the Xbox one in June.

[joeorc]

http://i.4cdn.org/v/1424464...

hahahahahah.....Oh' My..what..what it can't be....

[Elda]

If this is true that's amazing & maybe we'll see a sequel.

[Majin-vegeta]

What what is that for real??I feel bad now for cancelling my copy to go to Bone Thugs concert :(.Guess I'll just pick it up next week.

[USMC_POLICE]

I am loving the order solid 9/10 in my book, also putting it in the vault with other games I wont ever trade in. I am sorry I don't see the hate I hope we get a another order game. On the other hand I have no interest in bloodborne.

[bloodybutcher]

That's how it should be-you like the order and have no interest in bloodborne, with me it's the opposite-but neither of us considers the game, that we don't have interest in, bad. It's just nour cup of tea. But it seems that from last generation on, this attitude of ''i don't see appeal of it so it's crap'' is getting more and more profound(if it's the coorect word, me no so good english speaky:-P ).

[Spenok]

Personally I am enjoying my time with The Order. People are complaining about stupid things imo. Many games in the past have the features The Order has and were NOT slammed for them. Makes no sense. Gamers are not only entitled lately, but also have some gigantic double standards.

[Yaay4me]

yup. Its pretty much reminding me of the Original Gears of War. Its very funny I'm actually finding that it does have a ton of innovation. The things they are complaining about are the things that the game innovates, so i find it interesting that the first complaint was that it DIDN"T "innovate". Even though that is a ridiculous double standard in itself, since no game has ever been slammed for not innovating, otherwise the majority of games would have to be avoided.

Personally, the game is great. I just don't get the reviews.

[jznrpg]

The Order is amazing, the world looks alive and so beautiful. I really enjoy it, but I enjoy many genres so maybe that is why? Or maybe my expectations were in reality. Anyway I would definitely recommend The Order to people with an open mind.I also hope there will be a second game, despite what other people say about the game, it is a great first title coming from a studio that made psp games previously.

[Big_Game_Hunters]

Bloodborne wil, be great, that is fact. However Sony needs more than 1-2 top tier exclusives by the end of the year.

[Majin-vegeta]

Right cuz we already know all the games that are being released this year by them....

[Yaay4me]

so now we are concluding that the Order was a "disappointment". To who? I'm loving it.

[solidt12]

This is my first time hearing about anyone being disappointed by this game. Everyone I ask about it who is playing it loves it. I guess this is just a flame bait article.

[purp13m0nk3y]

No disappointment here. I'm loving The Order. Looking forward to Bloodborne too. Good time to be a SONY gamer :-)

[gamingisnotacrime]

Very pleased with the order. High quality from beginning to end

[neomahi]

I'm playing through it as we speak. Is it 'The Last of Us' or 'Uncharted'? No. Is it unique? Yes.

I grow tired of all the complaining. "It's not long enough!" and "All the Quick-Time events, there's too many." Or "It's too linear. I want more of an open world type game like Skyrim." We want to acknowledge gaming as an art but, we won't allow the industry to prove it. We won't allow the industry to evolve, try their hands at new things, and give us a different kind of experience. The market is saturated with first-person shooters and nobody is griping about that. There are probably more FPS games on current gen consoles than not. FPS games are also the kind of games nooks develop when their first designing and developing games because, like penning the plot to a slasher movie, ITS EASY! A slasher was the first screenplay I'd ever written and have branched off from that.

I applaud developers, and subsiquently support them, for venturing out and trying something new. Someone that brings something unique to the table. David Cage did that and everyone couldn't understand it. Tim Burton did the same for the film industry. People just didn't get it. Look at him now. A generation that understands and appreciates that. Maybe Ready At Dawn and David Cage are ahead of their time. People are so caught up in the simplicity of FPS games, they're not ready for something innovative.

Smother creativity and innovation, and you stuck with mediocrity and recycling the same concept over. All the greats that changed their industry went out on a limb. Sacrificed all they had to change the way things are done. This is an attempt to change and innovate in the industry. Graphically and performancewise. The physics are amazing! The coding perfect (as opposed to Gears of War atrocious control scheme and A.I.) and the texture resolution (for the most part, save the dead horse that looked beyond bland) is finally happening. Gone are the days of bland texture resolution when you approach a wall. BUT! Not if we smother developers working to change that through technological innovation.

[kingbain90]

I have never seen so much damage controlling in my life
OT yes, you don't want to start 2015 with 2 of your most hyped games disappointing. With your comp not having any big budget games out yet, having good games early is good for business.

[Algorithm427]

So how was it disappointing? Sales? No. So your opinion is it so disappointing so it is? Why do we allow any one reviewer to change our minds. I love the Order. This game gets more unjustified hate than Destiny, which I thought was impossible. It's not the games that should change, just the console wars, clickbait and entitled crybabies whom think their game should be tailor made for them . And because it's not your thing, we don't just keep it to ourselves now, we go online and lambaste the shit out of it. Forget Ready at Dawn worked their asses off and there are great things in the Order. METACRITIC said...........get me boys!

[blakstarz]

Who said it's a disappointment, the carbon "copy and paste" haters and no one cares fly-by-night websites? The game is awesome and caters to a different gaming crowd and not the norm that we are use to seeing these days.

Its story driven and very cinematic, something that is lacking this current gen to me.

[qwerty676]

lol no they dont

its been selling fine even with huge gaps with AAA exclusive releases

[jwillj2k4]

Say what you want about the gameplay, but anyone who doesn't recognize the amount of blood sweat and tears that went into making The Order is just trolling themselves. Sony allows the most creative freedom out of the big 3. They target mature audiences and it shows in the types of AAA games they make. IMO that is why they are going to continue to pull away from everyone else. The Order is RAD's first true console game, and for any studio to put a game out with this quality would be an amazing accomplishment. The future is very bright for Sony and PS4.

[PillowInUrBassDrum]

Just going to throw this out there...playing through it now (bought early Sat)...and not thinking it's a 65 metacritic score. MUCH BETTER than that.

Sad that it got overhyped and received with some general sense of negativity. R@D doesn't deserve all of it.

[pop-voxuli]

"Disappointment Of The Order: 1886"
Oh really now???

[James Vanderbeek]

the media needs to go back and play call duty because the order is f'ing awesome. no disappointment here. sony bring us more games like this please. game is perfect but its a pleasure to play.

[solidious]

Great game dont know what all the fuss ia about

[corroios]

Its not the media, but trolls in the media that try to destroy new ip from Sony, but forget everything when it comes to Microsoft games.

The problem is that those games dont sell, dont have any impact and i bet The Order will beat every single exclusive on the Xbox except Halo MCC, it not even hard to do that...

They can give 1,2 or 3 it wont matter, but is really sad, that broken games get huge reviews, DLC games sold as a full game get huge review and others...

[hardcorehippiez]

if thats true which i doubt well then i hope sony brings out more disappointments like the order. im expecting the next game in the trilogy to branch into multiplayer just like uncharted did if not before hand as dlc. Disappointed i am not.

[sAVAge_bEaST]

What's with the Blitzkrieg of HaterAde??

I feel like this is almost a Planned Assault.

[solidious]

Dont know what all the fuss is about its agreat game in my opinion and thats all that matters

[beereal360]

Killzone will be great not. Drive club we be epic not. 1886 we be super not. Time to sell the ps4 and buy a xbox one yes.

[baryonyx]

I didn't see Ryse do any better, and it didn't drag down the XB1 to a deeper hole, and the hit and miss of the Order won't be the downfall of Ps4 either.. all this bullshit

[Primal]

A commercial disappointment to be clear, the gaming media is on it's period this generation. Me and most of my friends really liked the game. I've also share-played the game a lot and nothing but thumbs up so far.

[cruzngta]

I like my PS4 but other than Infamous and TLOU Remastered all the others have been good but not great. DC has added alot but what a fucked up launch. I am not going to defend the shortcomings like alot of other loyalists who are blind. I prefer PS4 and thats why I own one and over 20 games but I really hope Bloodborne kicks ass and I am sure it will because of the style of game it looks like as well as the cool atmosphere it has. After Uncharted, God of War, Gran Turismo and other big names drop all of the mediocre efforts thus far will be long forgotten. Just takes time.

[Greyking]

Unfortunately for the Order this amazing AAA game is the victim of Journalists who have decided to pile on and make a failure out of a most worthy game. If you slap Metal Gear or by Kojima on the box this game would have gotten an instant pass. Dragon Age was a hot glitchy mess but was still one of my favorite games of 2014. The Order is a labour of love, there isnt one meling face, one game freezing glitch, or no one falling through the enviornment. Maybe it's short but as a busy adult I don't always have 60 hours to invest in a game. I hope despite the hate this game prospers and gets the sequel it deserves.