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PewDiePie and other YouTubers dismiss Nintendo's proposed revenue sharing plan

Nintendo’s latest attempt to reach out to YouTubers has been ill received.

“F*** you Nintendo,” PewDiePie said of the latest proposal, in which Nintendo would offer video creators between 60-70 per cent of their ad revenues in return for permission to create videos featuring its products.

“What they are missing out on completely is the free exposure and publicity that they get from YouTubers. What better way to sell/market a game, than from watching someone else (that you like) playing it and enjoying themselves?

WESKER20153367d ago (Edited 3367d ago )

Youtube "celebs" are the greediest of the bunch, they do everything for a paycheck, anything you can think of that gets the sheep talking, fanboy wars, memes, beauty and hair, let's talk rubbish while we play badly at this game play, COD, give crappy gifts to loyal fans who give you a comfortable living by watching your lame channel all while trying to sell them T shirts with your meme or name on them.

the smallest violin.

xHeavYx3367d ago

"This is why a tiny one man indie game like Minecraft could grow into a 2.5 billion dollar deal,” he writes. “That’s 2.5 billion… Made possible largely because of YouTube"

Yeah, this only affects Youtubers... /s

Gazondaily3367d ago

I don't agree with what Ninty are doing here but as far as I'm concerned, if I'm using Copyright material like music or game footage, as long as the content isn't deleted or muted, I personally don't care.

But I know people make a living off of this so I do understand their point of view too. Sad that Ninty of all companies is doing this.

hay3367d ago

Big N is a company, from their point of view it's distribution, which is not granted with retail copies of the games. Due to the code of conduct which rules places like that, it falls under pretty much the same procedures as copying VHS. And according to that propaganda we had with casettes and later DVDs, PewDiePie can and may fund terrorism.

OrangePowerz3367d ago (Edited 3367d ago )

I'm not a fan of them, but they decided to make a career out of it, so why Nintendo should take 30%-40% of their revenue I can't see. Nintendo gets free PR and their games get promoted and they have to pay zero. Instead they want to take revenue from the others and require videos to be reviewed and approved by Nintendo? Right now they are not even remotely in a position to dictate anything with their lacking WiiU sales.

Kryptonite42O3367d ago (Edited 3367d ago )

Agreed.
With Nintendo reviewing the videos, where will this leave game reviewers? What if someone submits a bad review? Will Nintendo hold them to a different standard than someone who might give their game a favorable review? Its almost a form of censorship imo.
Not to mention, I've read that it can take Nintendo up to 3 days to approve said request.

Not a fan of this decision by Nintendo.

Kaze883367d ago

Yeah and agreeing in to that could make other publishers think "hey we need also piece from that pie", then their livelihood could be at stake and it could be the death of youtubers. Not everybody has the same following as pewdiepie etc that would make them "survive" from that.

Kryptonite42O3367d ago

The "worst flaw is the list of games that are allowed to be played and recorded for play-throughs, reviews, etc. are limited. Almost none of Nintendo’s most popular games are included on the list. Super Smash Bros., Captain Toad’s Treasure Tracker, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time and all of the Pokemon games are not included on the list. In fact, the only game on the list that really holds any weight is Mario Kart 8."

Hereiamhereibe23367d ago

This article proves exactly the opposite, go be jelly somewhere else.

Qrphe3367d ago

Are you implying not everything Nintendo does as a corporation is done with the best profit-making intent?

MK24ever3367d ago

I'm no "youtuber", yet I made a video from a game I love, tweeted it to the game creator and he re-tweeted it to the public, I used music of public domain and the other music I asked permission to use it from it's creator, I can only see a win-win-win-win situation here. I felt honored and humbled to have my video appreciated by the game producer, the producer liked the video and used it to promote and advertise his game, viewers get entertained and even the ad parasites and Google win something out of it, if I make $1 out of the video I'm lucky and that was not the point, it gave more than that on work alone to edit it. Check it if you like some Driveclub goodness https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Multiplatguy3367d ago (Edited 3367d ago )

I find it hard to side with either side in this matter. AngryJoe was given footage of Street Fighter from Capcom and because he wasn't allowed to monetize it; he took the entire video down so we couldn't see it. He must respect his fans eh? They won't lift a finger unless they get paid for it.

And he gets paid for his fake reactions over a trailer that he ripped from another Youtube channel? They should be grateful they could live this life as long as they did, not mad they can't get paid for other peoples content.

So he if he can't make money on it, he won't do it. And then he rants out of fear of having to get a real job.

TXIDarkAvenger3367d ago

Pretty sure anyone would if they got payed a bunch. If anything Nintendo is greedy with this revenue sharing plan.

RosweeSon3367d ago (Edited 3367d ago )

Yeah and look at the guys attitude "f**k you Nintendo?!" Well that's charming your using their games that they've spent millions of £/$/¥ on and what we should all be allowed to just rip it off and put it all over the Internet, uh not really it's the same with music you wouldn't get away with just using everyone's music in your videos just like you wouldn't get away with streaming movies from a cinema to your YouTube account if your not original or creative enough to make the games yourself to show off at least have a bit off respect to the people who do take up their time to go and make these games for this fool to even utter those words against Nintendo is just a disgrace I'm sorry but don't bite the hand that feeds you without Nintendo's and others great games your "business" wouldn't even exsist. Learn some respect. Sounds like a school boy "F U Nintendo" shocking. You wouldn't even be relevant if they hadn't created these games in the first place for you to just yabba bare bull over the top of it, sorry how about shut up buddy and I'll listen to the fantastic soundtrack instead even some random thing yelping just not him, specially not now with his blatant disrespect for the people keeping him in his business? They should ban him from using their content and he'll have to make do with Microsoft. Or sony of course, just saying microsoft as it's no where near on par with Nintendo but who is for the bonfide classics. Anyway rant ramble over but I hate people just talking utter rubbish or being clearly disrespectful, learn some manners you have enough money and yet they are free poowho-pie.
But people saying Nintendo are greedy are you for real they could have said we get it all or you get 10% what with it being all legally copywriten by Nintendo as it is their content that is being used.

Radio 1 DJ's don't get paid royalties for playing music on the Radio, have a word with yourselves. I'll start screening my blu Rays in the garden and charging for the privillege? No. If your using other people's media and content be thankful your getting anything out of it at all ie just using or watching/viewing/listening to it should be enough, if in the bigger scheme of things it's not even yours and your "borrowing" stealing their content for your personal and financial gains... Peeps gone crazy.

Kaze883366d ago

lets plays are free promo for the game, why should they pay for nintendo for that? many companies use millions to promote their games, youtube lets play promoting is effective and free. Tubers pay enough to google and for their contracts.

3-4-53367d ago

* The truly intelligent ones will accept this, take their 60% earnings and find an additional form of revenue using their brains to come up with another good idea.

The entitled ones will whine and complain.

Kaze883366d ago (Edited 3366d ago )

They make a living by playing and promoting games, its nothing illegal or something totally new. its more like free promoting. Its not like making entertaining vids and editing them was easy, it takes effort and real work. After you make a video google takes 50% the money, then if youre bigger than normal youtube channel you have contract with some big company that takes 30% of that revenue thats left...then even nintendo would want to take 40% more. so essentially you would loose 80% of the revenue in total. who the fuck would play lets plays if everybody had these rules as nintendo does? maybe the handfull of youtubers would be left after that.

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KrisButtar3367d ago

I find it hard to agree with Nintendo from what I'm reading here here simply because a number of others allow it and even push for exposure. For example EA the worst game company has this Ronku program that pays extra to the Youtubers on top of what they normally get. I don't understand why Nintendo is trying to get a cut when all these others are simply wanting exposure. I doubt I know the whole story and likely seeing one side.

tlougotg3367d ago

Meanwhile, as usual the die hard Nintendo fans say its the best thing since apple pie lol hahahah Got to give it to most Nintendo fans they would eat Nintendo s%$t if they sold it as the new amiibo and then say its the best thing lol hahahahahaha

Greedy as Nintendo which is why they sell an underpowered system for an exorbitant price and the price never drops smh. Then they blame it on the conttroller smh

ReesesPuffs3367d ago

I'm a Nintendo fan and I think this is a stupid way of doing things. Don't generalize everyone because of their preferences.

Godmars2903367d ago

So for all of this, sounds like they're back to square one over let's plays.

Tzuno3367d ago

I don't know about this guy PewDiePie but his character is retarded, maybe 12 years old will watch that childish way of him.

Deep-throat3367d ago

Not only kids watch his videos, some non-gamers watch his crap too!

I'm not sure why some (YouTubers) are so popular.

Qrphe3367d ago

You'd act like a retard if it generated you millions and so would anyone. He's actually a pretty based guy who tells SJWs to GTFO and doesn't afraid of anything.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1015d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref5d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde5d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19725d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville5d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21834d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos4d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai5d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref5d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan5d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0074d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19725d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref5d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde5d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19725d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier5d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto5d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21834d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto4d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman5d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts5d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts4d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic4d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel12d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8811d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing11d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS10d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder10d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218310d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.