Naughty Dog Developers 'Still See Flaws' in The Last of Us, Despite Its Success

The perfectionist creators of The Last of Us 'still see flaws' in their hit title despite its phenomenal critical and fan acclaim.

[johndoe11211]

It's called being perfectionists. That's why they are as good and successful as they are.

[x5exotic]

Wish I could say the same for the fanbase of Uncharted.

[Savsky]

Maybe I live under a rock, but what's wrong with the UC fanbase? I'm a part of it, as UC2 was one of my favorite games ever. (The singleplayer and multiplayer were both better than UC3.) But the trilogy is fantastic.

[aCasualGamer]

Well ofcourse there is a flaw with Last of Us...

...it's too god damn short! I want moooooooore!!!

...because it's so god damn good!

[Kumomeme]

hideo kojima also been called perfectionist
lot more devs being called this if i not mistaken
they do the best for their works,and the result is impressive

[Infamous298]

It's good to see a developer acknowledging flaws of their game.

[Gazondaily]

The AI was the biggest flaw for me especially after the way ND hyped it up.

Other than that, I struggle to find things wrong with the game.

[DeadMansHand]

One flaw I noticed is that Clickers use sonar to see. That means they omit a click and it will bounce off anything moving, yet, the game says they find you by hearing movement. So you can walk slow right up to one while he is clicking and they can't see you. That is a major flaw.

[medman]

@septic
I have no idea why you're getting so many disagrees...the a.i. was sketchy at times..it was funny and at times annoying how Ellie would make noise/run out into the open when you were trying to be stealth, and the enemy would completely ignore her crouch running around like a maniac. It's a minor complaint in the near flawless gaming experience that is The Last of Us, but it's definitely there.

[Kumomeme]

you did say that,but even among games nowdays,tlou had one of the best A.I

the one hyped about their A.I is ubisoft,who contanstly saying the ai in watch dog was great,but what i see same repetitive act from them,kind of stupids(criminal are shooting gun,police chase another person instead)

[Infamous298]

Naughty dog is one of developers I respect that have great record of games, I hope they continue this good game streak.

[e-p-ayeaH]

of course there´s flaws like ellie being completly invisible to the enemy and very limited crafting options.

For something called game of the year id expect better gameplay but folks mostly praise the game for the story and ambience who cares about gameplay right?

[Blackleg-sanji]

Do ppl like u just wake up in the morning and say to yourselves how should i troll today? But ill bite whays wrong with the gameplay?

And the ellie thing was a design choice for good reason actually

[e-p-ayeaH]

not trolling really id just wanted more gameplay goodies in the game and id prefer to give orders to ellie like trading items and hold a position that sorta thing, also the crafting could be a little more creative like setting up non-lethal traps and such.

every game as flaws and TLOU felt like it could do so much more.

[MasterCornholio]

Yeah people didn't buy the game to baby sit a little girl. It would be annoying as heck if you had to save her but every 2 seconds with enemy's swarming around you and having an extremely limited ammo supply.

[ABizzel1]

@e-p-ayeaH

I agree about the companion AI being invisible, but then people would be complaining about Ellie got me killed, because enemies saw her (she should simply stay further back, and have better AI for hiding to not break the immersion).

However, I'd much rather Ellie be invisible then to have enemies swarm me, because she's trying to find appropriate cover, then and the entire industry would be complaining about that.

As far as crafting and gameplay goes, I've never understood the complaints. Joel is an average man and dad, who has to learn to survive in this world. He's not a top marksman from the marines, and he's not a master scientist. Therefore his gun skills are appropriately hit or miss, which is why you upgrade the sway skill to better his aim. Therefore, his crafting abilities are limited, because he's not a weapons designer.

The things he make are things everyday people (aka Joel as a character) can make which is why the crafting system fits with the character. If you want to make an Electrocuting Machete then play Dead Island. This game is trying to set a sense of realism.

What's there gameplay wise is good for any game, and overall very good for the context of this game. There could be more crafting options, but then if there's a sequel what's going to feel new if they pour all their ideas into this game.

The companion AI really needs to be fixed if there's a sequel for immersions sake, it's a problem that they're aware of, and if not changed it will reflect in the reviews of many.

[Blackleg-sanji]

So y not jus say that instead of what u said in your second sentence about game of the year and what not

[HeavenlySnipes]

Yeah the AI flaw is the biggest one

The gameplay doesn't suck. You have more bubbles, so care to explain how its lacking? Oh, and please refrain from using vague terms like "its not that good" or "its boring".

Go into detail on why the gameplay drags this game down in your opinion

[guyman]

"and very limited crafting options"

Well that is extremely unfair to the game, you could nitpick any game like that and say it is a flaw; and the crafting options were perfect.

"For something called game of the year id expect better gameplay but folks mostly praise the game for the story and ambience who cares about gameplay right?"

There is a reason why the game is the most awarded in history. There is a reason why it achieved critical acclaim. That is because the game was superb in all departments: Gameplay, story, graphics, atmosphere, etc.

Also, something tells me you haven't played the game. If so, you don't really have any place in critizing the game. Sorry that it hurts you so deeply though.

[CervantesPR1]

The gameplay is the best thing about the game thats why i play it often online but this is nothing new xbox fans are tired of hearing how great TLOU is. They are jealous of its success while their precious halo is losing its shine each time.

[Saladin416]

the story and character development is flawless

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

One of the most engaging games I have ever played. It's an experience like the first time you played the very first Legend of Zelda, or the first Final Fantasy. In every classic game, it's the sound track and the story that leads into the gameplay. And the Last Of Us is and will always be a classic.

[higgins78]

Success is not always a reflection of quality. Okami, Shenmue, Gamecube, Dreamcast, etc, etc, all sold conservatively, all packed full of quality. Assassins Creed, COD, etc, etc, all sold incredibly, all were average at best - in terms of quality. Now, TLOU was (for me) good, even very good in parts, but the A.I, well it frankly blew...on a game such as this was a sin.

[TheLastColossus]

AI is the only bad thing abut the game, other than that the game is fucking perfect.

[PS3and4_HAS_GAMES]

this is why naughty dog is one of the top devs of this gen and last gen. They are not cocky and always push their games to the fullest.

[DeusEx-Machina]

IMO, as good as TLOU is, it borrowed too much from the Uncharted formula in terms of gameplay.

Combat phases and exploration/puzzle phases were too sharply cut. You could be sure to never be attacked while exploring an area unless combat was introduced by a plot event.

More exploration/survival focused gameplay would have been desirable - at least for me.

[Subaruwrx]

The only thing that bugged me, and this is just a very minor gripe, was the fake cartoon like pools of blood that surrounded the heads of almost every person you killed. I'm sure there are other problems/flaws but this just happens to be the one that I noticed the most. That said, I loved this game, have played it multiple times and will play it again.

[Ikki_Phoenix]

the AI is the flaw for me but funny also
ellie stand up front of hunters and cant been seen xd

[iistuii]

One tiny thing stood out for me that id have liked them to do different. That was the way they used a crate to float on. When it first happened i thought cool, but time after time they used it. Each time i had to find a crate. Maybe they could have did something else like a barrel or a door. Saying that, it was still a great game, but i remember thinking it at the time.

[WhiteGamerInc]

The AI is flawed but thats ok. Seriously, Grounded mode would be a hell of a lot more of a challenge if Eliie were at risk not being invisible when Joel is crouched. Spoiler alert:

She is useful as hell when Joel gives her a gun man. The amount of times she shot someone that was aiming at me and allowed me to pop off a headshot or run up and hit them with a lead pipe was very numerous

[Artemidorus]

I still got this game in it's plastics for ps4.

[GokuSolosAll]

There's plenty of flaws. Success doesn't mean perfection. I wanted to like it but I couldn't. I'm not a good action gamer, so it was tough for me, plus the stealth was really horrible, and the AI was busted. Story felt forced and try-hard, and at the end of the day it felt like a zombie infested, gimped out, overly dramatic Uncharted with crafting slapped on (they're technically in the same universe, too; read the newspapers in UC3).

Bring the hate. I'm looking forward to a sequel or spin-off, and hope it improves because I'm a zombie fan. Just not a blind loyalist.

[Picnic]

I preferred Uncharted 2, Dishonoured and, to some extent, the original Bioshock last generation.
The Last Of Us borrows heavily from other games more than even those 3 games do.

[mdfk79]

i played for the first time on the ps4, i played it twice in a row lol but i remember not long after meeting ellie, when the woman was still alive, they crouched in the same place and ellies head was sticking out the womans back, small and pretty insignificant but that made me laugh, great game overall but there was something about the controls that felt off?