Star Citizen gets PS4 dev kit but insists "It will never be dumbed down for a lesser platform"

Star Citizen creator denies that it's thinking about bringing its space combat game to PS4 and Xbox One.

[XiSasukeUchiha]

In your opinion.

[XiNarutoUzumaki]

They can make another game for consoles, and let Star Citizen exclusive to PC. They want to take full advantage of PC, and that's understandable.

[The_Hero]

There's still no reason why this games can't be on PS4/Xbox One since they're basically PCs.

“IF the platform holders (Sony & Microsoft) allow us to update the code and data without restrictions and odious time consuming QC procedures, IF they allow our community to openly interact with each other across platforms then I would CONSIDER supporting them.”

I'm sure they can arrange that.
BTW, they are only working on Star Citizen and no other game.

[NewMonday]

"IF the platform holders (Sony & Microsoft) allow us to update the code and data without restrictions and odious time consuming QC procedures, IF they allow our community to openly interact with each other across platforms then I would CONSIDER supporting them"

Sony supported cross-platform play with Portal 2 and have liberal policy towards games updates since they allow many MMOs, so SS on the PS4 could happen.

[elhebbo16]

@The Hero Graphics aren't the only thing that make up a PC game, one of the reason why you wont see ARMA 3 on consoles is because the huge amount of individual inputs, you cant always dumb down a game so it can work with a controller.

[DragoonsScaleLegends]

If he was taking full advantage of pc he would be developing it for the best CPU/GPU available and it wouldn't be able to work on anything below a thousand dollars even on low settings.

[DragonKnight]

"IF the platform holders (Sony & Microsoft) allow us to update the code and data without restrictions and odious time consuming QC procedures, IF they allow our community to openly interact with each other across platforms then I would CONSIDER supporting them"

Sony has already done this a few times. They have MMO's like DCUO and FFXIV that are also cross platform.

Microsoft will never allow this. Ever. They are immensely anal about Live and the mere mention of cross platform play or ease of updates gets that starfish shut tighter than a space station's air lock.

[AnteCash]

So they want to focus on Highend PCs and they dont want to downgrade the game.

Does that mean the lower spec PCs will not be allowed to play the game becuz they need to lower the setting in anotherword Downgrade?

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

@NewMonday

SS? Star Sitizen? LOL

Anyway, you are are probably right Sony wouldn't stop them from making it update friendly and cross-platform gameplay wise, but still, they would need to play through PSN login, maybe it's a problem, maybe it isn't, I believe that's the very reason they got PS4 dev kits (to try and test that possibility).

@elhebbo16

https://support.us.playstat...

The support is there, using it in games is completelly up to developers. Not to say it's not a problem, as it's not the standard control method for the system, it may be required to also support DS4 to some extent (maybe not even to play it all, like in Rocksmith you can't play with a normal controller) or to bundle a K/M combo with the game... Still, it's perfectly possible to use K/M on consoles.

[morganfell]

The writer is completely wrong.

Roberts stated: “IF the platform holders (Sony & Microsoft) allow us to update the code and data without restrictions and odious time consuming QC procedures, IF they allow our community to openly interact with each other across platforms then I would CONSIDER supporting them.”

The writer follows with: "Well, that's probably very unlikely, so if you do fancy playing Star Citizen you'll simply have to upgrade your PC by the sound of it."

He is forgetting this:

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Sony has always been as open as Roberts would like. It is why Newell agreed to the deal. An open approach.

[AndrewLB]

Hero- They're not powerful enough to run the game at anything higher than the lowest settings.

[SonyMontana]

So I take it they only want top tier PCs to be able play this game at a fictional frame rate? There are plenty of people with PCs around the same specs as a PS4, are they left out to?

[HollywoodLA]

They can release it exclusively on PC, and in the process lose out on tons and tons of money and sales. Let me correct myself, a MAJORITY of sales and a MAJORITY of money.

It's their call lol.

[Darkstares]

It's amazing how everyone loves to talk about Microsoft not allowing interaction with other platforms. They have with Shadowrun and will also with Project Spark.

Can anyone here name one console game that Sony fans could interact with Nintendo fans online? Yeah, I thought so.

“Star Citizen IS a PC game. It will NEVER be dumbed down for a lesser platform,” said Roberts. “We will NOT limit the input options or supported peripherals to the lowest common denominator. We will NOT pass on features and technology just because they will only run on some hardware configurations.”

That's good. What it means is consoles are a lesser platform and the PC will be the lead platform, as it should be.

[OculusRift]

@drpepperdude

Are you serious? Tell me you're joking. "Anything under a thousand dollars" Tell me, who's honestly using a titan z/black (idk I don't keep up with what I can't afford.) or a 290X2 to play games? I have a 7950/R9 280 in my main rig and I can max most if not all games out at 1080p and maintain above 60fps. Guess how much I paid? $90. 90 dollars is all I paid to be able to max games out. And I've got a 7970 GHz for $130 as back-up in case this card starts slowing down after an OC. You have no Idea what you're talking about.. please leave.

[Shadowstar]

"...odious time consuming QC procedures..."

Passing quality control on consoles too hard for you? Make a buggy PC game instead! (I know, I know, #notallpcgames. Still, that's what this sounds like.)

[fr0sty]

They want to take full advantage of the tiny, tiny fraction of the PC market that has good enough hardware to outperform consoles, but in the end money talks and they likely will end up needing to bring it to consoles, especially after many of the PC gamers pirate the game.

[clouds5]

@drpepperdude: man. Graphic engines are scalable. PC games are optimised for those 1000+ $ rigs, but at the same time they are optimised for low cost PCs with low settings. It's a beauty I know.

[JsonHenry]

No, he has stated several times that the PC version is one thing and if a console version ever was made it would be its own separate version made from the ground up for the new platform.

[bmf7364]

Should they do a thing. Like Dust 514/EVE Valkyrie where it's a cross-played universe on different platforms covering different genres?

[TheGreatAndPowerful]

the dev post that the article talks about is from 2013. -_-

I found this interesting though

“IF the platform holders allow us to update the code and data without restrictions and odious time consuming QC procedures, IF they allow our community to openly interact with each other across platforms then I would CONSIDER supporting them.”

Sony allows both. So I guess Star Citizen is coming to the PS4! xD

[JBSleek]

With what funding? Also why would you even want this game to come to PS4?

So you can play a beautiful game in crappy form with barely playable framerates. You want to play a downgraded game?

[MysticStrummer]

"You want to play a downgraded game?"

According to PC gamers here, that's what they get to play most of the time.

Make up your mind, are PC games being held back by consoles or aren't they? If they're held back, they're downgraded.

[sinspirit]

@JBSleek

What? The 48 million isn't enough? The inevitable sales success for the PC version won't be enough?

"Crappy form". "Barely playable framerates". So, what about Star Citizen makes it so beyond console capabilities? Will there be downgrades? Maybe. But, we have games that look about as good already out. Star Citizen doesn't have much scenery, objects, and a lot of the models use flat textures just for something like steps on a platform.

And, apparently people are saying the man has said he will put a crowdfund for the console version, but won't spend any money made on the PC version on it, despite how much money they have.

[TheGreatAndPowerful]

"Also why would you even want this game to come to PS4?"

Why would I be apposed? The more software titles the PS4 has to offer the better.

"So you can play a beautiful game in crappy form with barely playable framerates. You want to play a downgraded game?"

Just because it's a PC game doesn't automatically mean that it'll run like crap on the PS4. If PlanetSide 2 can run at 1080p/60fps+ on ultra settings on the PS4 then I think SC has a pretty good chance of doing the same.

Planetside 2 - E3 2014
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Imalwaysright]

Even if multiplatform games are downgraded on PC they're still better than console versions. Not only that but the PC community can fix that with mods or just by tinkering with in game files ala Watch Dogs.

[TheDevKit]

@MysticStrummer

You realize when someone refers to a PC port as bad, it often means that the ports doesn't meet the standards of the PC community?

The PC community expects their games to have the option to be played at 1080p and 60 fps, if not, the game is generally mentioned as being a bad port.

Beyond that, there's nothing that makes the port worse than the console version, unless it has some sort of game breaking bug the other versions don't have.

[AndrewLB]

WeinerStrummer- PC exclusives don't get held back by consoles running three year old laptop hardware. Look at Crysis 1. Nothing came even remotely close to that game for a very long time.

[Eddie20101]

The PC elite are really threatened by consoles, especially the PS4. I have never heard so much negativity from PC gamer's in my life, they both have their place and are equally good at providing great game play and graphics. I would bet a very good port of his game could be made for consoles if he wanted to make the game, as is, if he doesn't I don't think it's a big loss, consoles get plenty of great games, some of them never showing up on PC.

I'm a PC gamer too(I have a very good PC that I built myself) I enjoy games on both PC and consoles they both have their own advantages and they both are great for playing games.

[starchild]

I game on PC and PS4, PS3, 360 too. And I have never seen so much defensive BS coming from console gamers. The excuses and pathetic attempts to minimize the PC just to make their console seem the best are just sad.

[Eddie20101]

Never minimized the PC, that's what PC fanatics do with consoles. As I said before they both have their advantages and they both are great for playing games. Their is plenty of BS coming from PC fanatics and you seem pretty defensive yourself.

Guess you haven't noticed the number of articles and comments downplaying console gaming in favor of PC gaming, rarely see the opposite from console gamer's.

I play games on both and like both.

The number of disagrees for rational comment show how slanted some PC gamer's are.

[Codewow]

Maybe they don't have to think and they have already made the decision? I won't be surprised if they do bring it to consoles, even if that breaks all the PC hype over the game.
They of course, miss out on a large market if they don't release on the consoles... so.. We'll see. Maybe after the PC launch they'll announce it for consoles.

[Malphite]

Star Citizen is mainly crowd funded so they don't have to worry about reaching a wider audience.

[Codewow]

Money is a hell of a drug.

[wsoutlaw87]

Like codewow is saying they would obviously want more money. Im not sure how much they are going to sell when it releases just because of how many people have already paid them for the game. If they ever want more they could go to consoles.

A bunch of people disagreed with me when i said the have some pc elitist/fanboy opinions about consoles. They make it clear that they think console games need to be dumbed down. They are pc gamers trying to make a game for pc fans. They want to the champion for "hardcore" pc gamers and are saying the right things to please them. So many pc gamers love what they are doing that theyve spent hundreds on a game not even close to done.

[JsonHenry]

He stated that once the PC version is completed if a console version was crowd funded successfully he would make a Console version of the game. But he won't use PC earned money to make a console port. He said it had to be crowd funded same as PC version.

[SaturdayNightBeaver]

Yea , it would be a huge slap in the face to all the backers and supporters as well PC gaming as a whole.

[gamerfan0909]

Can't really fault the guy for his position. If consoles would hold back his vision and ambitions for the game then don't make it for consoles.

[SteamPowered]

Come on now boys, lets just focus on PC for now....Im ready for something to really push my rig.

[WeAreLegion]

I helped fund these guys, but they're getting pretty full of themselves. Obviously, a platform that can be upgraded without limit has the advantage. Throw a couple of Titans and the beefiest CPU on the market in there and you're set for a long time. Still, as good as Star Citizen looks, I'm not convinced it's out of the PS4's league.

[gamerfan0909]

Just by seeing the gameplay on youtube, there's no chance either console runs this without it being severely downgraded from the PC version. He's not just being a prick here.

[sin7279]

no chance either console runs this without it being severely downgraded from the pc version??? ha ha ha pc fanboys i so stupid an blind, btw this game dont looks beter then uncharted 4 or the order 1886!

[JBSleek]

"btw this game dont looks beter then uncharted 4 or the order 1886!"

Are PS4 gamers this delusional? Seriously? The only people who believe this crap are gamers who never had a good PC.

Then PS4 gamers will lie about how they have when they know they haven't.

You haven't even seen too much of Uncharted 4... You saw like five seconds of a linear game. Congrats.

[user7402931]

look at driveclub , then come back and realize how ignorant your comment sounds

[WeAreLegion]

By the way, JBSleek, I have a phenomenal computer. I just built a new tower. I'm playing anything and everything on Ultra/highest possible settings. I do imagine Star Citizen will give it a run for its money, but only if I get that 4K monitor I've been eyeing.

[JBSleek]

Someone is delusional about the PS4. Tablet CPU and a really outdated GPU.

Sure it could come to PS4 if you want to play this game as sub 720p.

"How do you have six bubbles when most of your comments are either ridiculous or contradictory for the sake of being contradictory? "

I speak the truth clearly. It is blunt and I don't sugercoat crap.

[WeAreLegion]

How do you have six bubbles when most of your comments are either ridiculous or contradictory for the sake of being contradictory?

I'll be playing this game on PC, by the way. I just don't think the PS4 is as weak as you think it is.

[hkgamer]

If it is released for PS4, maybe they have a 1080p/30fps and 720p/60fps similar to FFXIV.
I guess as long as these devs understand how to program for PS4 it is very possible.

options for user to scale graphics would also be great. MMO needs this option due to how many people on screen can overlaod the PS4 easily.

[sinspirit]

What is "sub 720p"? Like... Sub-1080p so it is 720p? Or actually lower than 720p?

And, Star Citizen is a space game, meaning less terrain, less models, scenery, etcetera. It has some beautiful graphics, but I mean some. It doesn't actually have as much to render as other games.

PS4 already has some amazing graphics in its games. But, you try to ignore that. You "don't sugercoat crap"? But, you sure do need to cut the crap and stop your ignorant campaign. You look like another typical new to PC user who doesn't actually know much about PC but acts elitist about it anyways.

Why are you so ignorant about PC hardware, software, and graphics effects but keep boasting about it? You know so little.

EDIT: Oh, I see from another stupid comment below that you do think it would be below 720p. You do know arguments need reasons right? Not just ignorant conclusions.

@WeAreLegion

He probably has multiple accounts to make sure he doesn't lose bubbles. He's been posting ridiculous comments almost every day.

[user5669510]

its obvious that ps fanboys want this game bad but wont even bother to learn about the game. this prove that bring this game to consoles will just be a waste. then they get mad and say ps4 corridor games look better, and this game is not going to have much going on. ignoring the advance ai, and physics, they complete ignore the high detail ship and in environment in space with asteroids, stars, planets, and space station. they even ignore the fact that this game isnt only going to take place in space and you could land and explore different world. also you could move around and have gun fights on your ship.

if is not a ps4 exclusive they will ignore everything thats going on in the gaming industry but then call themselves a gamers.

"And, Star Citizen is a space game, meaning less terrain, less models, scenery, etcetera. It has some beautiful graphics, but I mean some. It doesn't actually have as much to render as other games"

ps fanboy logic #21
if you cant win, make up BS somebody would believe you.

you do know all of the models in SC is highly detailed, and you do explore world and you not stuck in space. you do know you can go in to space station that are going to be huge and highly detailed. you do know this game has fps mechanics right?

another ps fanboy that doesnt know what hes talking about or is just mad their godly ps4 is starting to not look as powerful as sony make it out to be.

[gamerfan0909]

Wow I just saw some snippets of this game on youtube. No way in hell could this thing run on consoles without getting severely gimped. I see his point completely now. I have no clue how he's going to market it. This clearly needs a high end rig to run it.

[btk]

The PS4 and XBone architecture is very similar to PC - that is why porting games can happen so quickly.
Both are very capable. I think it is very likely that we will see a port if crowdfunded.

[JBSleek]

Who would want to play this game at below 720p and barely playable framerates...

[gamerfan0909]

Dude type in the gameplay vid into youtube and just look at it. This thing might have trouble with high end rigs. This isn't a PC vs Console pissing match. They clearly built the game from scratch for high end PC power. Neither console comes close to matching that power.

[JBSleek]

This game is too CPU intensive for those tablet CPUs ins PS4 and Xbox one...

Joke of consoles.

[DoctorJones]

Console guys see this sort of game and say silly things like -

'And, Star Citizen is a space game, meaning less terrain, less models, scenery, etcetera. It has some beautiful graphics, but I mean some. It doesn't actually have as much to render as other games. '

- and don't think about what is going on in the background in games like this. AI needs power as well, physics needs incredible power. There is more going on than meets the eye in space games.

You are playing through the universe that is on the screen while AI ships and everything else is going on in the background. Ships that are attacking other ships, traders that are trading, an economy that is shifting and changing according to actions of yourself and the AI traders.

There's more to a game like this than 'rendering power'. It involves a lot of computational power. And on top of that it's going to be a stunning looking game, requiring a lot of graphical power.

Look at a game like X3, that game was more than capable of melting many pcs at the time due to what I've talked about.

This game is not a walk in the park for consoles.

[AndrewLB]

similar architecture. not enough processing power. have you even looked at how many polys the models are made from? To play this game on low settings it's going to require like 3 tflops, or like a GTX 680.

[Stapleface]

No console version unless it's funded by console players. Pretty sure he has stated something similar to this before. Star Citizen has been 100% funded by pc gamers. It would be wrong to use any of the money to produce a console version of the game. Plus like stated, they have a vision for the game and they don't want to water it down. Which they would have to do for consoles considering they are aiming for high end pc's. Something pretty much everyone who has already funded the game knows. It's one game. I don't think anyone should be upset over it. High end pc hardware is almost never targeted with a game. Let us have this one thing without the madness. There is literally no other reason for no console version other than Chris Roberts wants his vision for the game fully realized and never watered down. That's good to see for once. I wish someone else in the industry would take that stance as well. Too much gets held back for parity. More rather, not enough gets made that doesn't think about multi platform parity in the first place. Which all comes down to money. Understandable, but sucks for high end hardware users.

[KonsoruMasuta]

This game is interesting.

I usually don't game on my PC unless it's Sims, Sim City, or a dating sim, but I might be able to get into this.

[123pol]

pc mustard race

[Menkyo]

Yeah and GTAV is never coming to PC or current gen either.

[Shabutie13]

The only people that said that were Console fanboys. PC's with moderate power will be able to run it, as well as higher end boxes running it even better. The issue of Star Citizen on console is that it is a beast to run on High End PCs right now.

Everyone keeps saying "Console architecture is similar to PC" as if there is just one PC that they are matching. As pointed out in Linus' Tech Tips videos, a 5 year old graphics card couldn't be underclocked enough to match the console's power.

Console users seem to be under the influence of Ubisoft, "Framerate and resolution are just numbers."

[Menkyo]

Not the point Douche the point is dev will say all kinds of things then flip. Jesus PC gaming has really been infected with the giant douches since I left.

[imchuckbass]

This is understandable, why would you want your beautiful masterpiece running at 1600x900 @ 30fps (dipping to 10fps during heavy action)

It's like after painting the Mona Lisa, someone asks you to do it again but in felt tip pens

[azricf]

Good, stay true to the your starting goals, and to your kickstarter funders. They didn't give you all that money to make PS4/X1 ports.

[Jdoki]

A console version relies on two things...

1. The PC version of Star Citizen ever gets finished

2. The dev team don't drown swimming in their pools of money

[make72]

well they dont get much money from pirates.Thats the nature of pc gaming :)

[Cyb3r]

Its a pretty costly game to play you have to pay real money for a ship and also have to pay for ingame Spaceship insurance and if it runs out and your ship gets destroyed you have to buy more. Personally I dont think I could keep throwing real life money at one game. Has'nt this guy made enough money on the game already

[aliengmr]

Wow, you got that completely wrong.

You "can" buy life time insurance for a ship that you have the "option" of buying at this point in time. That is how the development is being funded.

Otherwise you use the in game credits to buy insurance, just like other space combat games.

With out EA and others (who claimed this genre dead BTW) how else are you going to fund a AAA game? Hopes and dreams?

Why is it greedy when a developer asks gamers to help fund the game, but completely okay for a big publisher to throw vast amounts of money at it, but don't have an interest in the experience at all?

Just find it odd that gamers think their interests are secondary to big publishers.

IMO crowdfunding and self publishing are far superior to the standard publisher model. Being involved, even in the smallest ways, with the development of games is very healthy for the industry. Gamers being able to see progress and even help to implement changes produces a much better game than just being surprised on launch day with an experience that you didn't expect.

[Lumbo]

you can't buy Lifetime Insurance anymore, that was already removed late november last year. And Devs publicly stated they think of the LTI as a bad decision in hindsight. So for everyone joining from last december on the insurance stuff was always ingame credits only.

The only way to get LTI now is to buy a LTI-ship from a player that already HAS LTI from buying before December 2013.

[cfc83]

Not really seeing what the fuss is about this games. Let them keep it on the pc.

[HaMM4R]

Hopefully as they arent Elite Dangerous will come to consoles. I'm looking forward to Elite far more than Star Citizen, maybe because I used to play sooooooooo much elite :P

[SpinalRemains138]

Money Talks.

Not many sell out until the money is on the table.

These guys are no more noble than anyone else.

Time will tell.

[JBSleek]

Yes money does talk and PC gamers themselves have gave this game 48 million. I gave up $5,000.

This games doesn't touch consoles.

[sinspirit]

But, above you asked "With what funding?".

Supposedly, a crowdfund is probably going to happen for a console version later on, and no money from the PC version will be spent on it.

You gave up $5,000? Okay. Only one person on the kickstarter page pledged for the $5,000 tier. Was that you? Or, are you just blatantly lying because of your PC bias, Star Citizen obsession, and negative console campaign?

[Bhuahahaha]

@sinspirit

heheheheh

[Spotie]

Man, you are so full of it, JB.

If money talks, then wouldn't the devs be listening to consoles, where plenty frequently throw money away? For that matter, doesn't that mean the game will on mobile, as well?

I find it hard to believe you spent that much money on this game. Frankly, I find most of your comments hard to believe.

[WitWolfy]

$5000??? U huh, and I drive a Lambo made out of solid gold.

[sunginmew]

no downgrade,thank god

[KonsoruMasuta]

Ah, I see you made another account after your first one got reduced to one bubble.

[sunginmew]

its good to be back :P

[ninjahunter]

The problem I see is that everything is real time and physics based. AKA massively CPU intensive. Consoles are not known for their CPU power.

If a ps4/xbone can do it, an i3 can do it better.

[tee_bag242]

Yep, the importance of a strong CPU has been overlooked with the sheer amount of linier games on the market today.
That's a big reason why WDs ran like ass on the consoles.
There's no hope in hell this game could run on one of the consoles unless it was downgrated to a shadow of its former self. Heck even high end PC's are going to be pushed to their limits.. finally.

[Obamanationn]

4 years from now Console version will get announced,CR has a to side with the PC crowd because most of 500k ppl who funded the game are ANTI-Console so no money will be spent on Consoles till the game is stitched together and being pushed out of the beta ,Chris Roberts brother is to much of a business man to let all the potential money slip away .

[Azurite]

He didn't dismiss a console version, he just stated that he won't dumb down the PC version if it did release to a console.

[hkgamer]

tbh, its best if they just stick to one platform.

There was a massive divide between PC and PS3 players on FFXIV. Most people didn't want to be in my party because my PS3 loads 20-30 seconds slower.

[Parhelion69]

Such arrogance...

so, Star Citizen won't run on midrange PCs? It'll be for High-end only? So its base will be pretty limited...

If medium/low settings are put into the game, then why the PS4 can't handle it?

Seems like it's only pure, stupid, irrational, arrogance.

[hkgamer]

you are correct.

however, for the people who funded this game, I think they prefer the devs to finish the game and then consider porting it afterwards.

Also PC players don't like to play with console players because they do not have easy access to apps like ventrillo or whatever gamers use these days.

[MadLad]

In the famous words of many console gamers on this site whenever a console exclusive is mentioned, "don't be so butthurt".

Besides, they never said there wouldn't be a console version. If it is going to happen, they simply want the PC version out first. A console version of the game would require a lot in the way of redesign, considering overall performance and the fact that it would be using a different control scheme.

[ATi_Elite]

same thing was said about Crysis PC which went on to sell over 4 million units along with Crysis Warhead adding in another 2+ million.

BUT when the franchise went to CONSOLES the sales figures across 2 consoles never added up to the greatness of the PC Exclusive even though few PC's could run it on Ultra or even run it at all.

Crysis PC = 4.1m
Crysis 2 (X360/PS3) = 2.48m
Crysis 3 (x360/Ps3) = 1.53m

Consoles really can ruin a great PC franchise so it's with great happiness to say that StarCitizen will never see a console.

Once SC releases the team will be too busy with patches, DLC, and changes based on community needs to waste time trying to "DUMB" SC down for a console.

The game is starting off big and will only get bigger and more complex.

[windblowsagain]

Nothing to do with consoles.

Crysis2 was where they took the story which lead onto 3. 3 Was better then 2.

They wouldn't have to dumb down anything for Star Citizen. Looks ok. But Shadowfall has better looking rocks,lol.

I wish ppl would stop painting PS4 and XB1 with the same brush. PS4 has alot more power and alot more growth.

[Einhert]

Just cracked 48 million in crowd funding the other day

Yeah it is really going to have a small userbase/s

Daily dose of N4G butthurt console idiot.

[Regis]

On the site there is only about 500,000 people paid to be a Star Citizen. With a 160 million user base, it is small.

Edit: Spelling

[Pandamobile]

@Regis 500,000 people who have pre-purchased an in-development game is hardly a small userbase.

Lots of people (like myself) are waiting til the game is actually nearing completion before we throw money at it.

[MajorGecko]

that's like saying 500k preorders is a small number PS4 fanboys have taken the idiot trophy for this gen with their comments haha

[tee_bag242]

True but I imagine most people that have funded this project have rigs that will run it, or are happy to upgrade for it.

[D3ATH_DRIV3R_777]

Well, it is their choice after all!

[Kosmacz]

I have feeling that their priority is not a gameplay but just a performance. It's kinda opposite to No Mans Sky. Why dumbed down? Gamepad is controller with much more possibilities than required by this kind of game.

[Father__Merrin]

star citizen doesn't look good imo.

you will need £1000 pc to play it lol plus it's hardly gonna be a mega hit anyway.

/s

[AnteCash]

Space sims are easy to make them look great , i remember Colony wars and , star treck Invasion on ps1, so the notion that Ps4 is to weak is stupid, there will be eve valkyre and elite dangerous on Ps4.

[AnEwGuY]

I'm glad I've got no interest in Star Citizen, because I'd really hate to support such a pompous windbag.

[Regis]

I know he bashes the fact that consoles will need a remake of the game and then not realizing that it may take a very good computer/laptop to play the game hows its meant to be played. It does seem like a very demanding game.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

It's PC v. consoles, and a massive weapon is need by the PC camp to win it. That seems to be the point of making the game from his video on his site. He is a PC elitist and wants a game that graphically murks anything on a console. Again from the video...looks like he has it.

The colors are a little cartoony, but the ship models are sick, sick, sick. I mean Lucas Arts sick looking. But game is going to have great gameplay, classic Wing Commander in a sandbox multiplayer with a single player campaign. But what hooked me...?

It is supporting Oculus Rift, another salvo that makes me wish it was coming on PS4. Either that or I had a big expensive gaming rig. I'll hedge out for a PS4 version on the Morpheus, thinking Sony gave them a devkit, hoping to sell them on this game for the Morpheus.

[Einhert]

in after butthurt console only peasants.

[_LarZen_]

It would be crazy to not consider a PS4/XBO version. The Elite: Dangerous developer David Braben said those exact words not long ago regarding their game.

If the game is a success you can bet it's coming to a PS4/XBO not long after.

[DragoonsScaleLegends]

Graphics don't make a game fun... but they can make them more enjoyable. If you make a game just to say I have the best looking game then you forget what videogames are made for, 'FUN'.

[InTheZoneAC]

as long as the game isn't grainy like battlefield on last gen or all pixelated like most ps1/n64 games that tried to be ahead of it's time in terms of what they can do visually I'm fine.

I still play my ps3 more than ps4 and never once am I wishing the game looked better. Why? Because it already looks good and isn't an eye sore to look at.

Also a reason why I still enjoy all the old nes, snes games. Because they're clear. Exclusion was star fox. That game was so bland and generic because it tried too hard to push the 3d graphics on a system not made for it.

[DragoonsScaleLegends]

But I always like to say the xbox sucks just because the ps4 looks a little better. Now that is also fun lol. But I did like the original xbox just not the last two.

[InTheZoneAC]

nothing was available for xbox...

[DragoonsScaleLegends]

I play PC games on max. Minecraft runs on max on my pc at those 500fps. Anyone jealous? But since java sucks and even though I'm getting that high in frame-rate I still notice stuttering which sucks.

[Gr1mmyshadows]

you just sound like an attention seeking douche

[tee_bag242]

Vsync it you goof.

[HappyWithOneBubble]

You mean to tell me PS4 MUSTARD RACE(because PC needs to ketchup) can't handle this game. Nonsense.

[DragoonsScaleLegends]

I wouldn't mind if my PC made ketchup. Does it come with a side of fries?

[OmegaShen]

I bet it will come to consoles, only a idiot would past up making more money to support their game.

Plus means they can push PC more if they made more money.

[DoctorJones]

They've got the money to support their game already. What are you not understanding about this? They are making the game FOR pc gamers because pc gamers PAID the money to make it.

A console version MIGHT come, but it will have to be PAID for by console gamers the same way it has already been paid for.

If you want it, wait your turn and PAY for it.

[OmegaShen]

I don't think you understand how it works uh? I be Sony going to them and offering money to port it.

Unlike PC, Sony can pay to bring it were you had to pay to get it on PC.

[Str8Chaos74]

Sure, because Sony is doing so well financially /s.

[DeusEx-Machina]

So these guys managed to dig up an 8 month old forum post of Chris Roberts and present it as news. Bravo.

[xtheblackparade]

Reading his opinion makes me not want the game on ps4. Games are doomed when the developer doesn't fully support it's development proces. And by the looks of it, they certainly don't. Better to have a good pc-game which you don't play than an abomination for the platform you own.

[Rob_Ko]

I will play No Man's Sky then, no harm done.

[kryteris]

considering that most pc hardware is below 7870 standards, this should be a non issue.

[NovusTerminus]

So, does he only plan to have ultra settings on the PC version? Otherwise lesser computers will have to dumb it down.

Or is he speaking about gameplay? Well, that would make less sense. As the gameplay wouldn't have to change at all.

As someone who does both console and high end PC gaming, I hate the "master race" complex, as it is stupid. Game has to be able to scale for mid to low end gaming PC's already.

Can the PS4 run this game? Yes, can it run ultra at 60fps? No, but neither can allot of the PC's that will end up playing it.

[Str8Chaos74]

Mid Range PC still destroys the PS4. I know, I have both.

[starchild]

Yep, I have a GTX 770 which is upper mid-range and it easily beats my PS4 in every single multiplatform game.

[bumsick]

Sorry but consoles wont be able to handle this at all.
Maybe they could handle the dogfighting module as it stands now, but the persistant universe is a completely different beast. it has been stated that they are aiming for 50 to 70 players per "instance", say its a 50 ship battle, a single seat dogfighting ship is around 250,000 polys....
Then you have individual physics being simulated per ship, each ship having up to 12 thrusters also being simulated in real time, and the impact and angle of each shot is also simulated on each ship for determining damage to internal modules of which there can be above 50 of.....
Oh and if you are in a battle with a carrier ship..well the "small" ones are around 7 million polys each plus all the other simulated stuff but at a much much higher count...
I have backed and been following this game for about a year now, thats how i know all that stuff.
Chris roberts himself recommended having a AMD 290 graphics card to run this decently for the persistant universe that card is around 5x as powerful as a ps4.
Next gen consoles are powerful compared to last gen yes, but this game will eat them alive.

[_LarZen_]

There is only a small % of the PC gaming community that can run a demanding game at maximum at 1080p or higher.

More PC gamer's should look at Steam's hardware survey's. It's sad reading....most people have nothing near what is considered a decent gaming PC.

So knowing this I can't help but laugh a little at the developer not wanting to "dumb down for a lesser platform".

[Pandamobile]

You know that porting a PC-specific game (especially a hardcore space sim) to consoles involves a lot more than just turning down the resolution and graphical effects, right?

Part of the reason why the Crysis series went so far downhill after it appeared on consoles was because they had to distill a complex, input-heavy PC game onto platforms that only have like 18 usable inputs. This is what people fear will happen to Star Citizen if it gets ported to consoles. N4G loves to go on and on about how PC has no proper "exclusive" games - then articles like this pop up and everyone's either "PS4 deserves this game", or "hurr not everyone has a high end compooter".

And FYI, just because the Steam hardware survey indicates that lots of people don't have high end rigs right now doesn't mean they won't have a rig capable of playing Star Citizen when it comes out in 18 months or whatever. Additionally, a good chunk of the Steam userbase seems pretty content with games like DOTA2 and TF2 still, so Star Citizen might not even be on their radar.

[DeusEx-Machina]

To pick up on that note: Steam hardware survey hardly indicates what the average system of a Star citizen backer is.

In example there was a backers survey from 2012 in fact, conducted by the Star citizen Dev team, that indicated that the large majority (far over 50%) are in favor of making 8 Gb ram a minimum requirement.

[starchild]

I've never taken the Steam hardware survey and I'm sure lots of people haven't. It's far from being representative of all PC gamers.

Most PC gamers that frequent gaming sites like N4G tend to have upper mid range to very high end PCs.

[modesign]

if its going to take until 2016 to even launch the pc version of this, i would hate to think how long it would take to launch this on consoles.

[Gr1mmyshadows]

i dont think console gamers are missing out on anything here

[MrCrimson]

donate 500billion dollars and we'll release it on the ps4 with a complimentary handkerchief.

[CaulkSlap]

Over $48 million in crowd funding.... we damned well better be getting the exclusive god-like PC game everyone is paying for. I wouldn't object to a console port later that's paid for with additional profits, but everyone is funding a game with the understanding that it is designed from the ground up to utilize top of the line hardware and kb/m controls. Dumbing it down to console specs and controller would be a huge slap in the face to supporters.

[Rivitur]

At least they're honest?

[illtornworld]

hi im a game developer, instead of bringing a game to PS4 andXbox One to sell more units im just gonna back hand gamers and say " i dont want to dumb down this game" therefore im just gonna develope pc games and hope it sells well. lol thats exactly whats going through my mind smh these fucking developers have turned super fucking lazy PS3 for instance " its too hard to program on blah blah fucking blah," Sony addressed that brought PS4 to PC architecture now its " i dont wanna do a dumb down game" *sighs*

[LightDiego]

Let these idiots out of PS4, if they want only PC, it's their choice, it's understandable.
Every platform has exclusives, Star Citizen is for PC, and games like Bloodborne, MGS V, Kingdom Hearts 3 and Destiny are exclusives for PS4 and consoles.
PS: It's really funny pc gamers being mad when console gamers ask for a game, but it's okay for then to post every topic a version of games like Tekken and Metal Gear, hypocrisy at its best.

[Moe-Gunz]

I know I'll get disagrees but to me No Man's Sky looks way more interesting than this.

[aliengmr]

Just wish everyone excited about NMS was around 5 - 10 years ago.

At any rate, NMS is old tech, believe it or not.

[Moe-Gunz]

Don't care about the tech. I care about the game and what it brings. NMS looks incredibly interesting. If It's old tech so be it.

[BobBelcher]

why are so many PS4 consumers upset about this? Big deal.

[Doritos_Pope]

Wow. . . the guys that make Star Citizen are pc fanboys to the extreme. . . .

[Lumbo]

WTF?

This story was "news" in 2013!

The whole story only consists of direct quotes from the "Letter from the chairman" that Chris Roberts posted last year as people whined about the PS4 devkit seen in the dev studio.

i know that the summer month are a bit low news time , but this is laughable

[DeusEx-Machina]

I'm usually one of those PC fanboys that deny other systems a port when it comes to Star Citizen. But the quotes presented in this news story are so ripped out of context, that it's not even funny anymore. It pains me to say, but the original post DOESN'T exclude a port to consoles in the long run. IMO Rather the opposite. It's really pathetic how these jokers call themselves "journalists". I rather advise you to go to the dev website and read the entire post for yourselves (which is from November 2013 btw) before falling for this BS.

//robertsspaceindustries.com: Forums => Hardware Section

Thread: [Star Citizen, PC, PS4 and Consoles]

It's still an old post regardless. Things might be different in one way or the other now. Keep that in mind.

[Many-hat5]

I'm fortunate in owning both a PS4(for couch gaming) and a high spec PC. Chances are, both sides of this argument are correct. No,we won't see a PC version of Star citizen on consoles,that's clear enough.People have to accept even mid range PC's out perform X1 & PS4. Still,down the line, I bet we do see a console version of the game which will be every bit as cool as PC version,and appropriate to the consoles relative powers.That's not a bad thing is it? I think if Chris Roberts is allowed to re-code freely for consoles, then we WILL see this game on X1 and PS4 - I think he'll drop cross platform requirement,in time.

[WitWolfy]

Fine, let their game get pirated to shit we console owners dont want it anyway.

[TH3BR3W]

K I have a test for you. Go download a current MMO p2p and try to just install it, let alone play it. Not gonna happen kiddo. Sure you might be able to find a way around and get to play the single player sure but you sure as hell are not going to be able to play online cause you have to pay to play. Their are plenty of countermeasures for p2p mmo's lol goodluck with your ignorance and lack luster logic.

[WitWolfy]

Wow watch out we got a badass over here... Thats the great thing of humanity... everybody who has an asshole has an opinion. I have mine and dont care about yours. Cheers

[gamer7804]

It's their choice but wow their comment sounds really elitist.

[Warghoul71]

The article doesn't state if the Dev asked for, or was gifted the PS4 kit. If it was asked for then there's your answer, if not Sony is willing to compromise and possibly fund a SC game. Either way I'm pretty sure this game could come to the PS4 in some form and still look good as well as be fun. Space shooter sims are fun!

[abradley]

I don't get what everybodies problem is with this. Gamers backed the project to help create the best possible space sim. That unfortunately needs PC hardware without a middleman. Yeah, I'd love to play it on PS4, but if I can't, I'll get it on PC, as it was funded for.

They aren't doing this for cash, they're doing it because they've always wanted to do this. Gamers have paid for the project, most of you haven't. Tough luck.