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Hatred: Violence and Pure Porn

"Meet Patrick. Young and exceptionally handsome. Patrick takes pride in being the best he can be mentally and physically. Educated, intellectual, and operates on a rigorous morning routine full of exercise and self-preservation liquids. Upscale flat suits are his wealthy occupation. Gorgeous and successful fiancée at his side, signing off on high-capital dinner reservations one after another." - Robert Beach

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Jason_Plays_PC3465d ago

I know 100% im going to love this game I cant wait, the haters can just ignore the game if they wish but instead were gonna see 100 articles all slamming the game.

DavePSU3465d ago

I agree with both of you. Personally, I don't see the game as that big of a deal. I'm more surprised it took this long to happen.

Mankey3464d ago

"While I do not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death the right for you to say it."

Just keep this in mind.

mochachino3464d ago

Your name sounds like it could be the sequel to Hatred.

Mankey3464d ago

Never though of it like that. lol

Mankey3464d ago (Edited 3464d ago )

Really now. Down-voting for protecting artistic freedoms?

Obviously the game has little to no artistic merit people, but that in itself does not mean it doesn't have the right to exist. Come now.

The greatest thing about freedom of expression is that we are able to bare all the stupid and absurd things while allowing the best of the best to rise to the top.

Just as much, we can bare this game, just as we would bare a Transformers or Battleship.

You can take it.

Hoffmann3464d ago

Downvotes..heh..I missed seeing those on destructoid after disqus made them invisible.

Seems more or less every comment is getting downvoted a few times if there are many comments.

Naga3464d ago

First of all, the freedom of expression is constitutionally provided as a protection against the government or other state actors. It is not a protection between or among private parties. In case you didn't know that.

Secondly, there are reasonable limits to that freedom of expression. Child pornography, for instance is not protected. Similarly grossly inflammatory and rancorous content can be limited. This is well-established in the law.

But beyond that, since the freedom isn't even a protection from private regulation, but rather government regulation, people are equally free to cry foul and object to the expressions or others. THAT is the flip side of the freedom of expression coin. So just as you assert that these individuals have the right to "express" themselves through the production and depiction of gratuitous violence and offensive content, so too does everyone else have the right to be vocal in their objections to it.

If you mean to defend freedom of expression, then you need to embrace this concept of an open forum. It would also behoove you to look into the actual limitations on the freedom you are defending.

Legend3464d ago (Edited 3464d ago )

So it's American Psycho the Video Game?

Bimkoblerutso3464d ago

Except with none of the satire or artistic merit.

It's closer to a movie like Hostel.

Hoffmann3464d ago

You never read the book I guess.

Legend3464d ago

Oh I've read American Psycho. Point of fact being I celebrate all of Bret Easton Ellis' oeuvre (I prefer Patrick's younger brother's adventures myself). I just made the classic mistake of commenting before actually reading the article. In all fairness though, the blurb that appears usually pertains to the topic of the article and not a tangent, but to each author their own stylistic nuance. I have not been following this game at all and the bit above is quite literally describing American Psycho. For a second I got excited, but I'm back to not caring again. Now if you'll excuse me I have to return some videotapes.

Catdawgg3464d ago (Edited 3464d ago )

More like the movie "Rampage" except even THAT movie has more plot than "Hatred"...

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Controversial "Adults Only" Murder Simulator Hatred Is Coming To Nintendo Switch

A game about killing people.

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NecrumOddBoy1467d ago (Edited 1467d ago )

This game was just gratuitous violence. I don't know why it was rated AO. It's no worse than a GTA killing spree, Hotline Miami, or even the 'No Russian' COD mission. Reminded my of a weaker Dead Nation except no zombies.

FlyingFoxy1467d ago

And we have highly sexualised Japanese games like Senran Kagura which are often either borderline, or practically straight up soft core.. and not even rated AO, some even rated lower age than GTA!

Makes you wonder what's wrong with the ratings systems overall tbh, potentially exposing kids to all kinds of nasty stuff.. but then that's more the parents fault anyways, and the upper age ratings are definitely nowhere near kid friendly, yet you still get little kids playing certain things they shouldn't be.

StormSnooper1466d ago (Edited 1466d ago )

Sex should not even be an issue. Violence, on the other hand, should have restricted access. I don’t know anything about this particular game, but sounds like the difference between this and GTA is that GTA is a game about mafia, so violence itself isn’t the lure of the game. It’s telling a story. But a game about murder, is a game centered on murder as the selling point. I Don’t know, I see a difference here.

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StormSnooper1465d ago (Edited 1465d ago )

@genericgamer01
We are confusing a number of issues here:

1) I think we all agree that any outright censorship is bad.
2) violence does in fact have negative impact on young kids.
3) as a matter of public welfare, some things are not better left to the unchecked discretion of people, in this case parents. This is why we all obey traffic laws.
4) while the right to raise your children how you see fit is a fundamental right, not all parents know how/are able to raise their children in a proper way, and the rights of the child and society should also be considered. Unfortunately, while we get a manual with everything, and attend classes for things like driving, a child does not come with a manual and no classes are offered to parents about how to raise a child.
5) there is a strong interest in protecting those in our society who do not have a means of protecting themselves. This includes children who cannot protect themselves from bad parenting.
6) we do in fact have experts in every field, both inside and outside government, who have dedicated their lives to specific fields, and DO know more in that subject than the general public. (To argue otherwise is called anti-intellectualism, which is a major problem in our society today, i.e. flat earthers)

Therefore, we should have regulations that guide parents, and also prohibit them from allowing their young to engage in activities that are either damaging, or have the propensity to derail their development into functioning positive members of society.

Lastly, the issue of politicians using video games as a means to seem tough, is an altogether separate problem as these individuals should not be allowed to take the reigns from experts on matters of public policy without scientific support.

PurpHerbison1466d ago

I guess the biggest difference here is the goal of Hatred is to murder where as GTA isn't all about killing sprees, Hotline Miami is too cute to be taken seriously, and COD isn't all about wiping out Russians. Best comparison is probably Dead by Daylight where 50% of the game is being a serial killer trying to kill survivors in gruesome ways and it is only rated M.

Kostche1466d ago

shooting and killing people is shooting and killing... dont matter what form it is

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CptDville1466d ago

Have you ever tried Manhunt? It was quite disturbing when launched.

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Tetsujin1467d ago

I'm surprised Switch is getting this and PlayStation/Xbox isn't. The game was basically Postal with better graphics and more realism.

LOGICWINS1466d ago

I'm not. Sonys the one that's been caught censoring anime bikini girls. Nintendo has been vocal about being against censorship.

https://www.google.com/amp/...

https://www.exclusivelygame...

REALAS1466d ago

Haha. Only with the switch, because money. Nintendo has censored more games than anyone.

Segata1466d ago

Nintendo will censor their games but not 3rd parties. That's what tey said since few will click any links.

MadLad1466d ago

@reals

So only with either company's most recent consoles? The ones most relevant here in 2020?

REALAS1465d ago

@ Ted
I just find it funny that people make it seem like Nintendo has always championed non censorship. They have only relaxed their stance to deliver to their shareholders. Good for them, I guess.

MadLad1465d ago

@reals

What I think you're noticing is people going at Sony, because they have been the censorship kings of this generation.

I've never seen people voicing Nintendo's anti-censorship stance, because they've obviously been bad with that in the past. But we're talking about now, and Sony is the one always seen censoring content nowadays.

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Activemessiah1467d ago

Brace yourselves for the incoming bitching about this by journalists.

NecrumOddBoy1466d ago (Edited 1466d ago )

Or more likely: "Best on Switch - 10/10"

QuePasa871466d ago

Hmm I wonder if some retail outlets will refuse to sell it

Kabaneri1466d ago

Every open world sandbox game is Hatred for me.

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5 Titles That Critics Hated but Gamers Loved

A look at five games that gamers loved but most critics hated.

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iofhua2313d ago

Advent Rising is another good example. It got panned by critics but it has a good story and I enjoyed playing it. The graphics are dated, the enemies all look the same, but it was made in 2005 so what do you expect? I wish they made the sequel so I could finish the story but I think the critics killed it off.

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Aaroncls72312d ago

I don't trust critics.
I'd value more the feedback from a random user.

nommers2312d ago

I seldom trust gamers or critics anymore. A lot of times high scores just mean how likely you are to enjoy something from the game, but rarely anything about how much you would enjoy said things, or whether the highly preferred type of qualities in a game you’re looking for are even in it. My initial gut feeling of the premise of a game is usually all I need.

quent2312d ago

Silent Hill: downpour another example

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Shock Value Alone Won't Sell Sh*tty Games

Joanna Mueller writes: "Since the 1980's, video game advocates have been arguing for the protection of games as a medium of free speech. Frankly, I consider myself in that camp, but just because a game can push against the boundaries of common decency doesn't mean it should. Especially if the developer is just hoping to ride the wave of pearl clutching controversy to the bank."

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garyanderson2782d ago

Nothing wrong with pushing for controversy, but the game still has to be worthwhile. Lots of games in the 90s showed that.

ShaunCameron2782d ago

Because the novelty will eventually wear off and the audience will eventually wise up.

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Cy2782d ago

So what? If there's a market for something then why should anyone care if it gets filled, as long as it's not something illegal? You can dislike so-called "edge lord" games all you want (in fact, you can like or dislike whatever you want, full stop) but even if games like Hatred are just trying to take advantage of anti-SJW backlash to make a quick buck, the fact that they exist at all is important in a culture that's becoming increasingly puritan and censorship orientated. Art is supposed to push the envelope. It's supposed to make you think. And even if all a game makes you do is think about why certain people are so desperate to ban it.

Enigma_20992781d ago

Yeah, it makes me think WTF is this s***?

Skankinruby2782d ago

Sure seems to be working for gta

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