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Rebuttal: Is the quality of games declining?

Valenka | 510d ago
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⇌ Author's Note: Please note that this is not a personal attack of any kind. It is merely a respectful counter argument. Thank you. ⇋

It's not an uncommon opinion that the quality of video games today is declining and there have been a plethora of theories as to why and how. I've heard some people claim that developers would rather try to impress you with a cinematic blockbuster hit with little to zero replay value. Most people claim that gameplay is not given nearly as much attention as the story and others say the same but claim the graphics get all the attention. Personally, I feel that all of these are legitimate and logical factors.

In a blog recently posted by one of my peers, the decline of quality in video games is outlined through disappointment, in regards to the lack of the crucial fun factor. Some A-list titles did not live up to his expectations and that is a perfectly acceptable reason to feel that video game quality is declining...that is of course, if the reasons for the disappointment are not horrendously biased, for lack of a better term. Of course, everyone has their opinions when it comes to...well, everything; that, however should not breed the extravagant remark of video game quality declination. Note that this was a generalisation - not to be confused with being direct with another member's opinions.

It is not logical to feel like the quality of video games overall is declining because you find A-list titles (BioShock Infinite, Borderlands, Battlefield, etc.) to be a disappointment, as many of my friends themselves have done. If one wants to determine the quality of video games in general, one must look at video games as a whole and see what areas are focused on most today. Is more attention given to story over gameplay or audio over visuals? You can't just say, "I didn't like a game that thousands of others love, so the quality of video games must be declining." It's ludicrous.

I did not much care for BioShock Infinite. I wasn't disappointed by it whatsoever, but it just wasn't my cup of tea. As is the case with a lot of games that are more popular amongst the gaming community like Call of Duty and Gears of War. Gamers themselves need to find their niche - what genre appeals most to you? Discover it and build your nest. In other words, don't go for a game in a genre you don't like and be surprised when it disappoints or annoys you. I don't like fighting games, so I steer clear of Mortal Kombat, Injustice and games of that nature. I'm not going to waste money on a game I know I won't like and save myself disappointment and aggravation.

I am a fan of some racing, stealth, adventure, role-playing and the rare first and third person shooter (aside from Grand Theft Auto and Saints Row which are automatic must-haves.) I stick to games in those genres and I find it hard to be disappointed. You need to know and understand what you like, what you look for and what you'd be interested in giving a go. Understand and know yourself as a gamer.

Do I feel that the quality of video games is declining? Absolutely not. Look around you - there are plenty of games out there where it is blatantly obvious that a lot of thought and hard work went into them and it shows quite well.

• Elder Scrolls (even though the bugs on the PS3 version cause most people to ignore the overall quality of the game and hate it as a whole.)
• Grand Theft Auto
• Tomb Raider
• BioShock
• Heavy Rain
• Fallout
• L.A. Noire
• Far Cry 3
• Max Payne 3

You should also take into account upcoming games that we've seen demonstrations of that have caught the eyes of many gamers, in which the quality is undeniable: Watch Dogs, The Last of Us, Beyond: Two Souls, Grand Theft Auto V and Until Dawn to name a few.

Don't lose faith in video games just because a few have disappointed you, friends. There are millions of video games out there and with anything, you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette. I'm constantly discovering games that I enjoy by spending time researching missed gems and browsing the shelves at GameStop. You'd be amazed, truly, at what's out there that you might've missed.

On a final note, allow me to restate my counter-claim: the overall quality of video games is not declining. There are still developers out there releasing games worth their weight in money. The problem lies in developers' lack of focus on crucial aspects. You could have the most graphically advanced game of the generation, but that doesn't excuse a 5 hour campaign with little to zero replayability, with a $60 price tag.

TuxedoMoon  +   510d ago
Games are all increasing in terms of quality.Games evolve over time and quality does increase. It takes at least a hundred people to make a decent game these days. So, technically, quality in games have been increasing. Every game has been raising the bar in some aspect, may it be graphically or with content. Budget and man power doesn't automatically mean better though. Heavy Rain looked amazing, but I thought that game was stupid and boring. Xenoblade is a wii game and looks muddy, but it's an amazing RPG.

I guess quality comes from care and love from the developers. Take Injustice for instance. The game looks alright graphically, but the content offered is pretty HQ, imo. MVC3 looked amazing and was flashy, but was a bare-bones fighter at the end of the day.

How we see quality is subjective though. Is quality defined by the game's budget or love from the developers? We all have different opinions on a game's worth, which also taps into our sense of what a high quality game is.

Anyway, nice rebuttal.
ZidaneNL  +   509d ago
I never implied that the quality of games is declining based on my disappointments. Those disappointments are the result of something I touched upon at the end of my blog: the lack of fun. Infinite was a good example of this, because I felt like I was being held back, comparing it to Bioshock. This limit on what I could do made the game less fun for me.

That right there is why I asked myself the question whether or not the quality of games is declining. Of course there have been great games in the past years. I clearly mentioned there were still games that grabbed me by the balls. Personally, I've had tons of fun with several Nintendo titles on the Wii and 3DS, games like Portal 2, The Witcher 2 and more.

If I boot up an SNES game right now I will be sitting here with a smile on my face for hours. Why? Fun, fun and fun.

Thank you for the rebuttal. I always enjoy a good discussion.
IcyEyes  +   509d ago
I already reply to you post, but I want to point to one thing here :

"If I boot up an SNES game right now I will be sitting here with a smile on my face for hours. Why? Fun, fun and fun."

Memories. You have great memories.

When I boot up Killzone 3 multiplayer (for example) i got a LOT of fun. Me and my friends just have a lot of fun and we meet every Sunday (or most of them) to play for a couple of hours that game ...

I hope you got my point. Fun is everywhere not only in the past.

Ps Because my work I'm just playing one of my favorite game ever : Cadaver on Amiga ... This game is hard ... that game is so fun :)
ZombieNinjaPanda  +   509d ago
"Memories, you have great memories"

And the same can be applied to the fun you have with Killzone 3. To me, it was horrendous, abysmal compared to Killzone 2. It didn't even compare. And yet you say that it's only memories that causes him to have fun.
Blacktric  +   509d ago
"Do I feel that the quality of video games is declining? Absolutely not."

Listing "Elder Scrolls" after saying that didn't help your case much I'm afraid.
Roccetarius  +   509d ago
I think a lot of people gave Skyrim a free pass, then the critical viewpoints came later. Funny thing is that, Kingdoms of Amalur (which was compared to Skyrim) got flak for what the former did wrong as well.

Slap a high number on it and call it a day.

Games are definitely in the decline, unless developers get their act together for next gen. The few good titles releasing is a rare sight.
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lex-1020  +   509d ago
I think at the same time most gamers are being overly critical of Skyrim's bug. So there's a flying mammoth or a dragon that flies backwards. What's the big deal. Is it a bug, yup it sure is. Is it a mess. Not at all. That flying mammoth doesn't ruin the game at all, it doesn't detract from the gameplay. Granted there were certain bugs that were major deals, PS3 being unable to go underwater without the game freezing. That was a big deal same with the lag. Sure there were a lot of small bugs, but in a game as large as Skyrim what did you expect? People just love to hate something.
Blacktric  +   509d ago
"I think at the same time most gamers are being overly critical of Skyrim's bug."

You must be joking. Do you actually think people who hate Whyrim hate it because of the amount of bugs in it?

Do the research a little before criticizing people who hate it.
ZombieNinjaPanda  +   509d ago
@Lex-1020

Wait, you think it's just the bugs that are the issues? The bugs are the icing on the cake! It's the gameplay that is horribly shallow and generic. The skill trees which do nothing. The voice acting that has maybe 5 different actors. The game breaking bugs that can only be fixed through console commands. The storyline that was pure trash.

The game only gets a free pass because people who have never played an RPG in their entire life picked up skyrim for the first time.

I'd say the biggest reason why games quality have gone down is the ignorance that has entered the games industry. People don't know shit any longer. They don't know about previous titles which had this that and this but modern ones have this that and this removed. They don't know about issues that other people are facing and then say incorrect statements like yours.
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IcyEyes  +   509d ago
This time I totally agree with you and I want to quote this because is pretty nice :

Do I feel that the quality of video games is declining? Absolutely not. Look around you - there are plenty of games out there where it is blatantly obvious that a lot of thought and hard work went into them and it shows quite well.

You should also take into account upcoming games that we've seen demonstrations of that have caught the eyes of many gamers, in which the quality is undeniable: Watch Dogs, The Last of Us, Beyond: Two Souls, Grand Theft Auto V and Until Dawn to name a few.

Good read.
ZombieNinjaPanda  +   509d ago
How can you call them quality when we've seen barely anything of these games? Don't count your chickens before they hatch, and don't call games that aren't out yet quality.
Valenka  +   509d ago
It seems as though you're the one who's preemptively counting unhatched chickens here; my statements were based on what we've been shown and the details that have been released. Quality is being determined based on what we have seen, not the overall game - obviously - as they have not been released.

Don't get ahead of yourself.
ZombieNinjaPanda  +   509d ago
@Valenka

You realize that not every comment is in response to what you said, right? I was responding to what IcyEyes said, unless that is your second account or something.
IcyEyes  +   509d ago
First of all are not my words ... It's copyright of Valenka, I just quoted.

Then all that games are big name and for sure the developer will deliver high quality games. Its like to go and watch a new movie from Christopher Nolan ... you already know that movie will be a great movie, even if you have only saw a short trailer.
Warj  +   509d ago
Most of the games mentioned above are shooters, which kind of triggered an interesting thought:

Maybe the problem isn't a lack of quality, it's a problem with bleed through. More specifically, a heavy lack of diversity between genres.

The Thief remake kind of points to this. It's a stealth game, and judging from the CVG interview, the testers (the professionals) have whined about not being able to take out a room like its a Call of Duty game. While the article could have taken the remark out of context, I've seen enough similar things in regards to other games and developer complaints to feel wary. When the people crafting our games only feel its playable if it emulates COD, regardless of genre, there is a real problem.

Just a thought at least.

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