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DualShaft 3

Jerkstore81 | 2789d ago
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Sony PlayStation 3 gamers across the United States are eagerly awaiting the arrival of the DualShock 3 controller and will finally be able to enjoy haptic feedback in their PS3 games. While most gamers might be applauding Sony for bringing back this feature for their latest console, maybe we shouldn’t be so forgiving. The way I see it, gamers are still getting the shaft.

We’re now required to buy new controllers in order to enjoy vibration feedback in our PS3 games. Consumers looking to replace the four SIXAXIS controllers they already own with four DualShock 3 controllers will pay a hefty price of $54.99 each simply to get a feature that’s offered within older versions of the DualShock.

I understand the Immersion litigation was the main culprit behind the exclusion of haptic feedback in the SIXAXIS, but this problem was out of the gamers’ hands (no pun intended) and it seems like we’re the ones getting punished. I’m sure I’m not alone when I say the SIXAXIS always felt like a half-baked controller since vibration feedback was removed, but there weren’t better alternatives offered to play our PS3 games.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad Sony is offering the DualShock 3, but this is the controller we should have been using all along. Sony needs to take care of the consumers who bought the SIXAXIS, and here are some options:

1.) Create a trade-up program where consumers with a SIXAXIS controller can trade-up for a brand new DualShock 3. Since the shells of both controllers are exactly the same, I’m sure Sony could gut the SIXAXIS to include the vibration components.

2.) Offer a voucher for every SIXAXIS we own that would allow us to purchase a DualShock 3 at a reduced price. We can provide Sony with the serial numbers of each SIXAXIS we have and get a voucher in return. If Nintendo can give away free rubber jackets for consumers who previously bought Wii remote controllers, I don’t see why Sony couldn’t arrange this to happen for consumers who previously bought the SIXAXIS.

3.) Drop the price of the DualShock 3.

Any of these would be viable solutions that would prevent PS3 owners from feeling cheated because they purchased a SIXAXIS prior to the release of the DualShock 3. Let’s hope Sony doesn’t make a habit of excluding rudimentary features from peripherals only to offer them in later versions down the road.

Surviver  +   2790d ago
Whole Heartily Agree
Although I do not own a PS3, it is still a big rip off.
And Sony is not really being called on it like they should.
What they should do, is, without question,
make the DS3 available for the people
with the sixaxis for either a minimal price,
or free, as an apology.

Jerkstore81  +   2790d ago
Thanks man! :o)
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LastDance  +   2788d ago love to see you run a company.

Sony dont owe anyone ANYTHING. how do people get off thinking that companies OWE them something. the notion is just incomprehendible.

Jerkstore81, you bought four controllers? well done. Its your problem. if you want dual shock. why dont you take some friggin resposibility for your actions. stop blaming other people for your shortcomings.
you could have waited for DS.

Dry your eyes.
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Jerkstore81  +   2788d ago
LastDance, you're absolutely right. I am taking responsibility for my actions and utilizing my freedom of speech to take a pro-consumer stance on how Sony recklessly handled the release of PlayStation 3 controllers at the consumers' expense.

I see it doesn't bother you when a company removes a highly-valued feature from a peripheral required to play games, sells the product on the market for over a year, and then sneaks the feature back in again later down the road. I admire your ability to turn the other cheek on this, but many of us feel jaded.

What if instead of haptic feedback, Sony removed the two analog sticks and replaces them with two D-pads instead? Then a year later new controllers are released with the dual analog sticks back. Would you still be saying the same thing?

It's simply the principle of this type of business practice that I have a legitimate reason to be concerned about, and I just don't want something like this in any shape or form to happen again.

Thank you for your feedback, though! If I ever run my own company someday, I'll let you know so you can watch. :o)
LastDance  +   2788d ago
correct me if im wrong, but wasnt the reason they COULDNT add dual shock was because of legal reasons? They were getting sued?

I dont think they were just rumble F* it.

Ps. i wasnt talking to you about running the company. ;)
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LastDance  +   2788d ago
they could have just as easily not worried about dual shock and stuck you with six axis for the life of your ps3.
but im pretty sure they paid millions of dollars so people like YOU could have a dual shock.


You should be thankful.
sonarus  +   2788d ago
I own a ps3 and i still whole heartedly agree. Now every reviewer is reviewing the DS3 giving it praises and all. They should really be slamming the $hit out of sony in order to make that trade in program happen.

To be fair it wasn't really their fault it happened but they could be doing a whole lot more to fix it.
Jerkstore81  +   2787d ago
I'm just reading the comments posted within the last 24 hours and am so happy to see a mix of different opinions!

To answer your question LastDance, you're absolutely right. Sony was barred from using the rumble technology, but only because they chose to continue litigation for stealing another company's technology rather than cut their loses and establish a licensing agreement with Immersion for Sony's future controller developments.

Microsoft was also brought to trial along with Sony for infringing on patents held by Immersion, but they settled out of court. Sony could have done the same, but made the poor choice to continue the legal battle, lose, then appeal multiple times starting with their first loss way back in September 2004. The PS3 was released in December 2006, so this was more than enough time to make amends and reach a licensing agreement with Immersion in future products.

This was not the gamers' fault. Sony made an insane amount of poor choices leading up to the release and development of the SIXAXIS, but they mask it as an early-adopter issue.
Genesis5  +   2789d ago
That was very well written. All though I agree with you I really don't think we'll get any breaks on this one. It's an early adoption issue.

Sony must have really thought most people would trade the rumble for motion control. Turns out they were wrong. Luckily I never bought a second controler until now.

I am glad they kept the SIXAXIS though. In some games it's well used,like Ratchet & Clank and Heavenly Sword.
Jerkstore81  +   2789d ago
Thanks for the kind words!
DrPirate  +   2789d ago
I guess I don't feel ripped off because my sixaxis (pos controller by the way) broke and I replaced it with a DS3.

I fail to see how this is a rip off though.
Harry190  +   2789d ago
How did
you get so many bubbles?
That's insane.
Harry190  +   2788d ago
i want
to have as many bubbles as you.
Alcaponedyou  +   2789d ago
that's why i didn't buy a second sixaxis because i knew this was coming
shaft? to those who didn't plan ahead.
But in truth, I'd rather have a dualshaft3 than macroshaft
Bricheous  +   2770d ago
My wife bought me another controller so she could play and I told her she had to sit this one out until Spring! It was harsh, I know, but I did it. The truth is I knew the Rumble was coming and told her we'd wait to buy one then. It's your own responsibility when purchasing the latest upgrade or feature to plan ahead and research when the next upgrade or feature after that will be released (if that makes sense). PC users get shafted every year with new graphic cards. IPOD owners get the same boot. Come on people! Its the electronics industry where we have to sit back and watch the price of a flat screen drop by half after shelling out big bucks! Its in the game (no EA pun was intended while writing this closing) live with it.
DarkSniper  +   2789d ago
Dark Sniper agrees with you. Unfortunately, Sony didnt do this when Dual Shock was introduced on PS1, so it's highly doubtful they will do it now.

yanikins111  +   2789d ago
They didnt do it
for the ps1 because it was new tech back then. On the other hand, who bloody cares. 6axis controllers still work. The way I see it, if you have 4 6axis controllers, buy a ds3 for yourself and have 4 6axis for your friends. You guys know the ps3 can connect to 7 controllers right?
Mr Tretton  +   2788d ago
First, we well know Sony was not legally able to put rumble in at the beginning. If you bought a PS3 and this is some issue with you, that's too bad. You made your choice. Now they are making it available. You have a second choice.

Sony owe you NOTHING. They didn't owe you a rumble controller with your PS3 and couldn't give you one anyway. You bought the system knowing this fact.

Now they can put this on the market, and you want some kind of discount? Ha.
They aren't in this buisness for their health. They're in it for profit. And the extra 5 dollars you are paying compared to the sixaxis is just to cover the costs of putting in the rumble. Of course these controllers cost this much considering motion sensor, bluetooth tech, and now, rumble.

Sony owe nothing, and you have a choice. This is just typical, nonsensical consumer 'childism.' Get over it.

I paid 62 dollars US for a silver satin import DS3, and I can't wait.
Bricheous  +   2770d ago
Its a business people
The PS3 was never guaranteed to have Rumble so why should they "apologize"? They couldn't put Rumble in the controller because its already jam packed with tons of other features ( a fully intergraded battery, blue tooth, and sixaxis) but we take those things for granted. Now you want them to give you a free controller that's even pricier? Look back at how much a First Gen controller cost compared to those today and I would say they are doing a pretty good job of keeping the price down. If you absolutely can't stand your SIXAXIS trade it in at Game Stop and shell out the difference. If companies had to apologize for omitting features then everything would be free in the electronics industry and we could simply trade in our cars for the latest options. IPODs wouldn't have sold in the millions, that's for sure.

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