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Dawnguard and PS3: Forbidden Bedfellows?

HonestDragon | 816d ago
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Dawnguard on Xbox 360? In attendance. Dawnguard on PC? Late, but you're lucky you made it. Dawnguard on PS3? Dawnguard on PS3? Bueller? Okay, jokes aside, things are looking pretty grim for Bethesda right now.

I can't go a day without hearing about the whole "Dawnguard being absent from PS3" or "Dawnguard doesn't work on PS3". Hell, I'm lucky that Dawnguard made it on the PC. You know, the original platform that The Elder Scrolls series started on? Please don't go into a flame war about PC being better than Xbox or Playstation because those are pointless and stupid. I am merely making an observation about where Bethesda's priorities and ideas are. Hence, this is the point of my article.

Yes, I know that I gave Skyrim a 9 out of 10 in my review here, but I'm not talking about the game, I'm talking about Bethesda. Quite frankly, they handled Dawnguard in the worst way possible. First off, everyone knew Dawnguard was on its way. Everyone who loved Skyrim was gearing up for it, playing through the game again one more time, and pacing with anticipation. Here's my little rendition of what Bethesda told its consumers about Dawnguard's progression and eventual sale:

Bethesda: Guess what, kiddies? Dawnguard is going to be available very soon.
Consumers: Yaaaaayyyy!!!!
Bethesda: But on the Xbox 360 first.
Consumers: Awwww...
Bethesda: Yeah, Microsoft called dibs. Oh, but don't worry. Thirty days after that release, it will be released on PS3 and PC. So you're looking at late July to get it.

Wonderful. As if Microsoft can't be criticized enough for being money grubbing corporate a-holes, now they got Dawnguard first before PC and PS3 owners. That is one the stupidest business practices ever. Limited time DLC is not practical or logical. If Skyrim can be released in one week for three separate platforms, why is the expansion being divided?

I don't want to come off as angry or cynical here, but the response from the community is not good. Bethesda has been heavily criticized as "favoring" the Xbox over other platforms. Others claim that Microsoft "paid off" Bethesda to get Dawnguard first. Whatever the case (because really who knows what the real reason is), Bethesda is standing on shaky ground. What's more, the second fault lies on the fact that they missed their target date for the release of Dawnguard on PS3 and PC.

I can't tell you how many PS3 and PC owners I talked to about the limited time DLC Microsoft had that they were incredibly disappointed when hearing that. Even then, when they learned that no word has been made on the release of the expansion on PS3 and PC that disappointment started to turn into resentment. Thus, this is where Bethesda took more heat for their business practices.

To top it all off, Pete Hines (VP of PR and Marketing for Bethesda) tweeted this last month: "We have not announced Dawnguard for any other platform, nor given a timeline for any such news. If we have news, I promise I'd tell you.” Thing is Bethesda did. Numerous articles and sources clarified that the limited time DLC for Microsoft would result in PC and PS3 getting it 30 days later. You are not doing a good job as Vice President of Public Relations and Marketing if you say things like that! Your goal is to build bridges between your company and your consumers, not burn bridges. You're only going to piss people off if your words can be turned against you and turned against you they were.

Nevertheless, despite the backlash Hines took, PC owners were pleasantly surprised, if not shocked, when they found Dawnguard available to purchase on Steam. No announcements, no tweets, no nothing. How were we supposed to know? It's like one day we're going through Steam looking for new games to check out what's there and the next day BOOM! Dawnguard for twenty dollars! Here it is! Really?! Would have been nice to have had a heads up.

Meanwhile, PS3 owners are just as shocked as PC owners are and want answers. Why has Dawnguard not come out for the PS3 yet? Bethesda answer back with saying that Dawnguard is not performing well on the PS3 and that they are trying to fix it. Considering that the PS3 version is riddled with bugs and glitches this was nothing new as of news to PS3 owners. Patches have reportedly helped, but Dawnguard having trouble on the PS3 is very troubling.

Once again, however, Bethesda has gone under fire as their new expansion Hearthfire will be made available on Xbox Live. PS3 owners further criticize Bethesda of this announcement because Dawnguard is still not available to them. Further, this makes PS3 owners believe that Bethesda is "favoring" the Xbox 360 over their console...again.

With their upcoming new intellectual property, Dishonored, on the horizon it would appear as though that Bethesda might suffer big time. Many people who own a PC and PS3 are claiming that they will never buy another Bethesda game because of their business practices or that they will buy the game but only if it's used. If anything, I'm seeing that only a handful of gamers are willing to forgive Bethesda and get Dishonored anyway.

Personally, I think that it's a real shame that this is happening. Believe it or not, Bethesda is good at what they do. They wouldn't get acclamations and awards for nothing. While there could be problems in their games, in the overall scope of things, a majority of people genuinely love their games. Bethesda wouldn't be where they are right now if they weren't doing a good job. It's just that as a company they have made some serious mistakes over the passed few months regarding Dawnguard and Hearthfire.

I really hope that Dishonored will get its time in the lime light because it looks like a great game. It's one of my highly anticipated games of this year. I can poke and prod this whole Dawnguard and PS3 thing to death with my jokes, but my true feelings on it are centered more on disappointment and frustration.

Disappointment because Bethesda took so long to deliver Dawnguard to the PC and because I really thought they were smarter than this in that they knew better than to not piss off their consumers. Frustration because of the timed exclusive DLC with Microsoft. It's a stupid business decision. I can understand if there's an exclusive game for a system (i.e. Gears of War, Super Mario Galaxy, and Infamous), but I don't understand making an expansion pack exclusive to one system, despite it being on a limited schedule, seems sound when the game was released on three different platforms. I really hope things will look up for both PS3 owners and Bethesda because if it doesn't, then Bethesda is going to be sitting in hot water more so than they already have.

f789790  +   815d ago
It also takes the hype out of an expansion if you don't release it on all platforms at the same time.

I was going to buy Dawngaurd but didn't really know when it was coming out. I'm just putting it off now. Plenty of other games to play.
jadenkorri  +   815d ago
If a movie theater opened early with no wheel chair accessibility and claimed it would be "Installed Later", WTF kind of shit do you think would hit the fan in that situation. DO you think someone who's in a wheel chair be "ok" with that, no they wouldn't. That's how we should be responding to Bethesda . MS is paying Bethesda (or any other timed dlc companies) to essentially discriminate another group to benefit itself.
Redgehammer  +   814d ago
Being someone in a wheelchair, I would file an ADA complaint; however, I do not believe your analogy fits in this situation.
jadenkorri  +   814d ago
It may not have been the best analogy , but It's just the way I feel about the situation with the Dawnguard DLC. The same can also be said for exclusive titles too, but I'd rather see all games across all consoles than see the shit MS pulls now. I personally don't like MS business practices with timed DLC and what not. Because I chose another company I have to wait, while others get to enjoy the game, yeah its business, it just pisses me off and I know I'm not alone in that.
Redgehammer  +   813d ago
I understand where you are coming from; however, Sony likes to grab exclusive content as well. It could be argued that the reason many companies give MS exclusive DLC's is because multiplatform games sell better on MS's console (at least in the USA). I am not saying anything negative about the PS3, but as I have heard all my life, money talks and BS walks.
jessupj  +   814d ago
Bethesda has been pulling this crap since fallout 3. They make great games, but they're pathetic for purposefully postponing the titles to a big percentage of their fanbase.

I haven't bought a single one of their games this gen, and I won't be until they stop acting so unprofessional.
StayStatic  +   814d ago
Interesting read , Bethesda could do better in their business practices that's for sure.

"No announcements, no tweets, no nothing. How were we supposed to know?"

Would just like to point out it was announced live during Quakecon 2012 as a surprise , so obviously anyone not watching the steam or attending would not have known lol , still a nice surprise I guess , maybe it will suddenly appear on PSN one day lol.
HonestDragon  +   813d ago
No kidding? Didn't hear anything from Quakecon 2012 this year. I've been going to various sites to look for news with Dawnguard on PC, but I came up empty handed. Thanks for pointing that out! =)
browneyedwolf  +   807d ago
This whole bethesda thing is absurd. xbox owners are now getting the second dlc and PS3 hasnt even gotten dawnguard yet. Sony should just cut all ties with bethesda and let them live off xbox sales since that is the only audience they seem to care about.

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