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No, September's PS+ Lineup Does Not Suck

GusHasGas | 20d ago
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I've been seeing quite a few articles lately regarding September's PS+ lineup, and September's Games With Gold lineup. Many say GWG is better, some others beg to differ. Here's my whole take and opinion on this month's free games, and why everyone's complaining. (My post here is a bit long, I know, but bear with me).

In case you haven't been catching up with the news lately, the free games that'll be given to PS+ members and Xbox Live Gold members in September were revealed.

Xbox One users will get 2 indies:
Super Time Force and Crimson Dragon
Xbox 360 users will get 1 indie, 1 AAA:
Monaco and Halo Reach

PS4 users will get 2 indies:
Velocity 2X and Sportsfriends
PS3 users will get 1 indie, 1 AAA:
Hoard and Playstation All Stars Battle Royale
PS Vita users will get 3 indies, 1 AAA:
Velocity 2X, PS All Stars Battle Royale, TxK, and Joe Danger

A rather large amount of commenters here on N4G have been expressing their disappointment with this month's lineup, but there's absolutely nothing to be disappointed about, in my opinion. I've been playing Velocity 2X since I won an early code that Colin Moriartey (of IGN) was giving away, and I've been absolutely loving it. (I would imagine there's an embargo, so I can't say much), but it's utterly fantastic. It blows Velocity Ultra out of the park, and then some. It's incredibly fun and fast-paced, and will offer the same amount of replayability as Velocity Ultra, if not more. I'm honestly perplexed as to why people are complaining about this game, especially since the majority of them haven't even tried it out yet. But either way, let's move on. Next PS4 title is Sportsfriends, which I already have. It's heaps of fun. Only thing it requires are real-world friends (or family). People seem to be disappointed with this title too. It's fairly new, so I don't know why. All I can imagine is that tons of those people don't have anyone to play the game with, though SharePlay will quickly remedy that problem. Anyway, the first PS3 title is Hoard, which, I'll be honest, I don't know much about. My friends that've played it have told me it's great, so, again, I don't see a problem with it. Other PS3 game is PS All Stars Battle Royale. Right off the bat, it's easy to tell why people are disappointed by this. A recent PS sale had the game selling for $5, I believe. And even before then, it was only $10. A large amount of people already own this game. If not, they think it's just a Smash clone, and I have to disagree with that - that style of fighting games that involves four players duking it out should become a genre of its own, to be honest, and Smash shouldn't be the only game in that genre. Either way, I still understand why people are frustrated by this. So far, it's the only title that we can be disappointed about. Next, the two Vita titles are TxK, an arcade shooter which I've played before (it's pretty fun), and Joe Danger - just the thought of Joe Danger on the Vita gets me excited, as it's a great game that'd play perfectly on the system. As an added bonus, Vita users will get Velocity 2X and PS All Stars on Vita for free as well, since the titles are cross-buy.
Bottom line: there's absolutely nothing wrong with any of the PS+ titles, besides PS All Stars.

Now, Xbox: On Xbox One, users will get Super Time Force, which is incredibly fun and innovative. Everyone should try this game out. A lot of people have been raving about STF, saying that it's one of the main reasons this GWG lineup is amazing. A lot of people are also saying that this beats out Velocity. Once again, the vast majority of these people have never played Velocity 2X. Both games are equally amazing, neither one can be compared all that much, to be honest, as they're of different genres and offer entirely different experiences. Other game is Crimson Dragon, which was also last month's free title (which is one reason that gamers are a bit angry over this, though they need to realize that that's Xbox's way of giving free games out - one game stays free for two months). Overall, I heard mixed feedback from those that played Crimson Dragon. Perhaps not the best title, but perhaps better than others. Xbox 360 players can get Monaco: What's Yours is Mine for free. I haven't played this yet, nor have I heard one negative thing about it, so I would imagine that gamers should be happy about this (though most of them already are). Second game is Halo Reach. Lots of people are happy about this, saying that it's one of the best Halo titles, while others think otherwise. I, for one, disliked Reach and loved 4. I know, I'm odd, but there are some others like me, apparently, therefore making it tricky to determine Reach's true value. I would assume that it's a win for gamers, as it's a Halo title for god's sake, and, that too, one of the most recent ones.
Bottom line: No reason to fuss about the GWG lineup, (unless one is still disappointed over Crimsom Dragon), and I've seen very few people complaining about it. Still, that doesn't mean that the PS+ lineup is horrible in comparison to this. Allow me to elaborate, and compare the titles:

PS4 vs. Xbox One: Both platforms get two indies. Super Time Force and Velocity 2X are both fantastic and unique in their own ways. There's no comparing the two. The other indies are Crimson Dragon and Sportsfriends. Sportsfriends is insanely fun, while Crimson Dragon has reveived mixed feedback.
PS3 vs. 360: Both platforms get one AAA and one indie. PS3's indie is Hoard, 360's is Monaco. Both are fun from what I've heard. Their AAAs are Halo Reach and PS All stars. With Halo Reach, many people love it, many loath it, but tons of people already own it, given the fact that it came out in 2010. Nearly the same exact scenario with PS All Stars - quite a few people like the game, many dislike it (or didn't give it a chance because they think it's a "Smash clone", but tons of people already own it, especially since it came out in 2012, plus it's been heavily discounted before.
PS Vita vs. ??: Obviously, the Vita stands on its own, and it has no other platform to compete with besides the 3DS maybe, so no one's that flustered about the titles it receives, as there's no titles to compare. That too, given the Vita's low install base, many people simply don't care about what titles it receives. Despite that all, its titles this month are pretty damn great.

So, to recap/TL;DR, both PS4 and Xbox One have two indies. All four are great (maybe one of XB1's indies can be considered as mediocre, but it's still not the worst in the world). PS3 and 360 both get one AAA and one indie, both their indies are fun, and many people already own their AAAs, both of which can be argued as good and bad games. Seeing a similarity here? Good, and that's because both lineups are equal. They both offer a nearly equal amount of value, in exchange for money for a service which costs nearly the same on both platforms (PS+ is $50 per year, Gold is $60 per year). So, there's absolutely no good, justified reason to complain about either lineup.
So... Why are people complaining? Granted, there are some people that complain (and will forever continue to) because "THERE ARENT ANY AAAs INDIESTATION AND DUSTBOX SUCK". But the real reason why everyone's complaining about either lineup, specifically Playstation's lineup (for whatever reason) is because this is the way the Internet and (the majority of) this industry's community is. People need to find a way to compare the two main consoles, and then b**** about either one. When both consoles were announced, people complained about Xbox because of its high price and DRM policies. Before/after launch, people started to find a way to bicker through "Resolutiongate". And now, people have found another new, senseless way to compare the two consoles, and that's apparently through their lineups of free games. Bickering, fighting, trolling, and complaining - this is what the gaming community of the Internet has been like for what seems like forever, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

Feedback is appreciated in the comments, unless it's utterly pessimistic.
Thanks for reading.

kingvendrick  +   19d ago
Good article. I am really looking forward to Velocity 2X having played both Velocity and Velocity Ultra, and really enjoyed them. I will probably get Hoard and Battle Royale seeing as I still have my PS3, but not played either of them.

You are right when you say that both offerings for GWG & PS+ are roughly of the same quality this month. Tbh I think PS+ has a slight edge but thats just my opinion.

Unortunately, as you say, people will always find something to moan about and bash the other side as it were. At least GWG is better than it used to be.

But you know, as usual, haters gotta hate.
garos82  +   19d ago
I don't understand the hate battle royale gets.

ive owned it since day one and yes it has been a rocky ride ironing out OP attacks and specials, i still found it very competitive and extremely fun, especially playing 2vs2 matches with my buddy sitting on the couch next to me as we fought our way online against others.

All the characters included are actually really well implemented and are extremely unique in terms of attacks and specials (except the two coles ,which both feel different to master).
i absolutely loved the love and care taken to create the characters as close as possible to their respective games with great touches to their personalities.

Im happy that it is finally hitting PS+ such that it can bring the online community alive again i hope.

Now for the other titles i havent played any of the other offerings. And i will reserve my judgement till i try them all. Am looking forward to Velocity and Sportfriends. The latter such that i can use my beloved Move controllers which are collecting dust at the moment
JohnathanACE  +   19d ago
Velocity 2X makes this month for me. The first one was awesome! The only disappointment for me is PS All Stars since I already have it but at least there will be new people online.
Phar0ahad3  +   19d ago
Good Job its true they dont suck this is a great month
WildArmed  +   19d ago
Pretty mediocre for me. Probably because I own All Star, which may have made this month decent otherwise.

Not that it matters, I already have a huge backlog and no gaming time.
incendy35  +   19d ago
Any games we get are a nice bonus. I am not paying for PS+ or Live because of them though, I pay for the services because I want to play online games and have nice online features.
Tetsujin  +   19d ago
Good write, nice to see someone looking at the positive side of Plus/Live rather than the typical "OMG it sucks" with little to no reason why outside "just because we can."

No I won't complain about the current setup because I will be too busy on Destiny and college work; doesn't make sense to "hate" on something that won't matter over time.
admiralvic  +   19d ago
"looking at the positive side of Plus/Live rather than the typical "OMG it sucks" with little to no reason why outside "just because we can." "

One thing I love about the differences between positive and negative comments is that you people are cool with a vague positive comment, but will chastise a vague negative comment.

Why is it usually okay for someone to say "great month for Plus! Thanks Sony" without being questioned, yet someone can't say "I'm not particularly found of this months offerings?" Heck, I've outright explained a number of different times and ways why I was disappointed with something and someone was always there to explain why I'm wrong. Anyway, I just find the concept interesting, though it might just be me.
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Tetsujin  +   19d ago
"you people are cool with a vague positive comment, but will chastise a vague negative comment."

I don't normally attack negative blogs/forum posts because 90% of it is either trolling or constant whining over nothing important. If someone has some legit reasoning for their hate for the month (not saying you just in general) I'll typically add an input that either agrees or disagrees without trying to flame or start an argument/debate.
admiralvic  +   19d ago
"If someone has some legit reasoning for their hate for the month"

Part of the problem is that I've come to realize most people don't consider anything legitimate. Like a few months I noted I was sad getting something I already owned and I almost always get a remark like "it's just one month" or "shut up, there are still XYZ more offerings," yet I've literally kept fairly well track of this and excluding PS1 titles and other classics that I own the originals of, I've owned 98 as of September's announcement of the approximately 314 games offered in the total span of Plus in North America (and this INCLUDES the PS1 classics and Sega classics I opted out of including in my 98 figure). To make the math simple, that is about 33.33% of the games offered over the span of Plus I've owned, which I think starts to move the complaint into "valid" territory, but thats just me.

This is just one example. My comment was mostly grounded in the logic that unless I include a bunch of details (such as the figure I mentioned above) with my negative comment, I will almost always have someone post their 2 cents against it. Considering I typically get it with the long comments too, there really isn't much incentive to post more than a sentence or two on the matter.
Tetsujin  +   18d ago
Your issue is something I wouldn't worry about, I can see it frustrating to buy a game only to have it free or discounted. There's moments I finally had the $ to buy something and then that month/soon it goes free, that's irritating. Those issues I can relate to, and no I don't condone or talk down to someone voicing hate about it. I've actually added to those from a "I've been there" perspective because I have; now I wait to buy games just in case.

What I'm referring to is the obvious trolling and/or ones with little to no thought, ones where the title has more thought than the article, those types are the ones I'm talking about. Those types of people and articles are reasons why I stopped coming on this site like I used to and moved on to other places where the trolling and fanboyism are minimal.
admiralvic  +   19d ago
I see articles like this and feel the need to rolls my eyes and let out a deep sigh. Not everything is about Sony vs Microsoft, every complaint is not invalid and no matter how amazing a game is, there will be people that don't care for it.

Case in point, I constantly see people making comments about how fantastic Velocity Ultra is and how they can't wait for 2X. While I respect their opinions and haven't called anyone out, I tried the original when it was offered with PlayStation Plus and didn't really care for it. I was looking for something more like Gradius and was a little disappointed. I also found myself really disliking the game as I tried to 3 star every stage. I think I 3x stared the first 34 stages before finally giving up, largely because I didn't care for the rush missions requiring near perfection to 3x star. Naturally I can't say I am excited to get 2x for free and regardless of how good others think the game is, it won't change the fact that I simply don't care for it, which I hope people can respect.

In the case of Sportsfriends, I watched the trailer and it didn't seem like a "me" game. I don't exactly have friends over to my place and we don't have fun playing games like, which lowers some of the appeal for me. Maybe I can play it online, but it doesn't seem like a game that I would particularly enjoy and feels like one of those games you have more fun with when there is a group of people standing around watching you. Out of all the games offered this month, I would say this one probably has the smallest appeal and there are probably many others that would agree it simply isn't their cup of tea regardless of how beloved or good it is.

For Hoard I had to again watch the trailer and it was just simply not a game that looks appealing to me. I don't have a big or elaborate reason for this feeling, I just wasn't feeling it and didn't even care enough to finish the trailer.

TxK is something of a special case, since I'm not even fully sure I grasp what it is (it looks to be a psychedelic shooter). What I can say is that I've never been a fan of techno music and the bright colors / flashes gave me a migraine and couldn't see myself playing it for any prolonged period of time.

The remaining two I own (well Joe Danger on the PS3 anyway), so they naturally hold no appeal / value for me. Even without that, I can't say I was ever the biggest supporter of PS All-Stars. Having played it at E3 and via the Beta (assuming we live in a reality where I never bought it), the special / kill system never really resonated with me and it made the game feel largely empty for me. Like you can have no understanding of the games controls, get a few lucky punches here and there, but as long as you made your super counts, it was entirely possible to win the match. Others might differ, but I think many can understand where I am coming from. As far as Joe Danger goes, I don't actually have anything bad to say about that game. It was quirky / fun and despite disliking things similar to it, I had no problem with the game. But since I played the PS3 version in length, I don't see myself going back to it on the Vita. Especially since Destiny, FFTCC, Hyrule Musou and other titles will have my attention for the foreseeable future.
admiralvic  +   19d ago
What is my point in all of this? It's that I just simply don't care for the things being offered and am naturally somewhat disappointed in the offerings. Will I cancel my subscription? No. Do I think Games with Gold had a better month? Like I said in the PS+ vs GWG topic, I consider them both about equal and would call it a wash. Do I wish people didn't try to make the complainers out to be unreasonable or whatever negative thing you want to call it? With every fiber of my being.

As I've said numerous other times, just because I don't care for TxK or Sportsfriends, doesn't mean I am hoping for a "AAA title" either. Just means I don't care for them and would rather see something like Transistor, Steamworld Dig, Child of Light, Guilty Gear among others were offered instead. Like I've also posted in another one of these topics, it isn't uncommon for me to go months between getting a title that I both want to play and don't already own. A bit of this is admittedly a personal problem (as I play a lot of games), but at the same time I don't think it makes my disappointment invalid either. Especially when you factor in I typically own at least one of the games being offered every month for at least the past year.
Yet every comment I make and no matter how I make it, I usually get a number of disagrees and at least one person explaining to me how my logic is wrong / invalid .
TomRL  +   18d ago
Yeah I was surprised at all those articles. I'm quite impressed with this months lineup. We have two brand new games on PS4 don't we?

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