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Microsoft's TV Ambitions are a Cop Out

GalacticEmpire | 944d ago
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So, Microsoft have finally stopped pretending there isn’t a third Xbox on the way and has found it in their hearts to give us a date for the big unveiling. Like the good consumers they take us for we’re supposed to watch the countdown timer patiently with baited breath. Then, when the time is upon us, Microsoft will bestow its new master plan for gaming on the world. It is said that this plan will include a full scale invasion of the living room complete with assault on cable companies and TV content providers. “But what about games?” a small voice manages to be heard above the din of the war machines before being taken round the back and ‘silenced’ by two large men in sickly green uniforms. Propaganda... I mean ‘promotional’ posters litter the streets; one in particular depicts a HDMI in port next to the word ‘Revolution’. One thing is for sure, the future of the industry is never as uncertain as at the turn of a console generation.

In these dark times we need reassurances that our needs as gamers will be met. This burden lies with console manufacturers who have happily taken our money over the years in exchange for what we want. What do we want? Do we even know? Are we being told what we want? Well nobody can speak for all gamers but I’m pretty sure that high up on the list of requests would be games. So what happens when the ambitions of a console manufacturer conflict with the wishes of their fans? We could find out very soon. If MS want into the living room so badly that gaming becomes a side-show in their circus of horrors it will partly due to their love of ‘casual’ money but also to do with being afraid to compete with Sony, toe-to-toe, as far as gaming is concerned.

Sony has a first party line up that, let’s face it, is hard to compete with. This has never been more evident than the last few years of PS3 in which Sony have managed to not only put out some fantastic sequels but also create a few completely new AAA IPs that have, or look set to, become runaway hits. Microsoft knows that if it takes the same tact as Sony, a completely gaming orientated one, it will be difficult for them to come out on top against the nearly 20 year long industry veterans. Instead they’re using TV and entertainment apps to broaden their net but, at the same time, take focus away from gaming. It’s a similar tactic to Nintendo who, after facing crushing defeats in two generations, scaled back their focus on the core gamer in favour of a casual audience. It worked fantastically for Nintendo, they managed to make money, lots of it, although they never recaptured the core gaming audience.

Third party will be what keeps the Xbox 3 afloat, as it has done with 360 these past years. Microsoft’s path to the living room will be either the road to ruin or a shortcut to success at the cost of the army that marched them there.

NeverEnding1989  +   944d ago
Going into next gen, if reports are true, all of a sudden the PS4 now looks to be very one dimensional.

You say Nintendo made lots of money, but never captured the core audience. I hope you're aware that both Microsoft and Sony (especially Sony) don't give a rats ass about the core gamer. They're businesses with the intent to make money. If you're under the impression that Sony's shareholder meetings consist of plans to get more "hardcore" gamers to their platform, you are sorely mistaken. Sony wants, no, NEEDS the casual crowd. I say especially Sony because this generation has been Sony's worst, while its been Microsoft and Nintendo's best.

If Microsoft shows a console that is also a cablebox, you can bet Sony will quickly be looking to do the exact same.
Qrphe  +   944d ago
>if reports are true

So DRM: The Console, Better with Kinect?
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megatron_78  +   944d ago
@ neverending i couldnt disagree more nintendo had and incredible start that ended in not having much to offer besides 1st party games that were great but few and far between MS did realy well after its first year starting with gears and on but kinda fizzeled out towards the end of this gen, sony started out pretty bad but ended strong with many first party games new and old ips ,no one should realy jump the gun and assume what MS is gona do untill the rumors either turn out true or not. sony gave us an idea that seemed enticing but hopefully pans out and well nintendo does what they do, release great first party games every so often. i wonder if they will be relevant if 3rd part devs dont make games for thier platform well hopfully E3 answeres most questions but im sure ms has an ace up their sleeve and i wonder if sony can continue their momentum into next gen
FRA85  +   944d ago
There are a lot of articles appearing lately about how MS is'nt worried about PS4's spec's and day one game list then on the other hand how next xbox will be terrible with their always connected thing and how they seem to be getting less about the games.

I just find it funny how the fanboys and girls in both camps are getting very defensive and arguing over rumors and half truths. In the end they'll as usual argue about who sold what, how many and where.

The reality is that both system's will likely be top quality pieces of equipmemt of almost equal worth so why not just sit back and enjoy them instead of bitchen about which is better.
specialagent4532  +   943d ago
I agree the rumors in regards to the xbox 720 are just to have fan boys bickering with one another. These rumors are not even based on what Microsoft did this generation or even facts
Ravenor  +   944d ago
Could we wait until after the reveal before we start dumping coolers of Haterade on one another?
GalacticEmpire  +   944d ago
People are always quick to attach the 'hate' label to valid criticism that they strongly disagree with. By all means offer a counter opinion but don't write it off as hate, thanks.
Ravenor  +   943d ago
Criticism that you deem valid, isn't an instant qualification.

I have no counter opinion, because I don't know anything about Microsofts plan. What I do know is if their plan is to include always online, used game blocks and other crap along those lines I wont be supporting the platform until much MUCH later in it's life. I had the same attitude when the Sony news broke about the used game patent they had filed.

I do not speculate on hardware manufacturers, as you said it's their job to drum up public and publisher support for their machine and if they don't do an adequate job of that I won't support it. On the flipside I will not condemn Sony or Mirosoft for any focus on media (TV, Movies, Music) with their machines. You call it a lack of focus on games, I call it a move to make them seem more palatable to people who don't game every single day.
GalacticEmpire  +   943d ago
You see, offering a valid opinion is much better than just labelling someone as a hater.

You do realise you said "I have no counter opinion" and then proceeded to offer one :)

At least I can respect your pov now.

"You call it a lack of focus on games, I call it a move to make them seem more palatable to people who don't game every single day"

Well, you came to that conclusion with the same information I'm using to come to mine. Which is that, even if MS spend the same amount of time/money on games as they have in the past (some say that's just not enough as it is) they could have spent much more if they weren't also focusing on getting their grubby hands on the mainstream TV watching market.
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MichaelLito79  +   944d ago
Let's just wait and see what Microsoft's new Xbox has to offer before we assume anything. The last two months have been horrible with all the doom and gloom articles about a system that no one has no clue about.
GodsPerfectK7ng  +   944d ago
Playstaion 3 and xbox360 were on par pretty much with consoles sales bro, and look how far Microsoft has come since the first xbox to being on par with sony who sold 100 million plus ps2's to now they have sold as many ps3's as sony!! Microsoft wants to expand the company well that is there choice if they want games and television they will make it happen it is just business as usual!!! LIKE A BOSS/THGJ. The proof is in the pudding!!!
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NYC_Gamer  +   944d ago
I'm gonna wait and see what MS has of offer before making any judgement..MS won't be the only company trying to expand their console into new areas of entertainment..720 will have its share of exclusive software and hardware features..I wouldn't mind being able to watch my Fios channels and other media on the dash with gamers on my friends list.
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kingPoS  +   943d ago
Umm... maybe the FCC helped give Microsoft that final push to make it's decision. I find it highly unlikey that MS would craft a new console only to have it ignore current DLNA standards.
specialagent4532  +   943d ago
Terrible blog and let's wait for the reveal of the next xbox to see if any of these silly rumors are true.
StrongMan  +   943d ago
Great blog GalacticEmpire. Nice read and I agree with every word. Interesting perspective that I never thought of in that way. Well written.
Jek_Porkins  +   943d ago
This is the thing, Microsoft is a huge company with a lot of money, they aren't doing anything that Sony isn't going to do as well. Microsoft just makes it a point at going after everyone, no matter if they are a gamer or just a fan of entertainment.

Part of the reason the PS1, PS2 and PS3 were so successful is because they offered something for everyone, a lot of people bought a PS1 because it was a CD player, if you had a good sound system it was amazing to listen to CD's on your home console, then with the PS2 it was the cheapest DVD player around, by a lot. I know people who never bought a game for their PS2, just got it for the DVD player, Sony had advertised these other things, and even include a Youtube, Netflix and Hulu logo on their boxes now.

The big difference in my opinion is that Sony keeps those things on the low when they talk, they have a slogan like "We're for gamer's" and the core gamer's eat it up, not realizing that Sony is for everyone if they can get them.

Microsoft actually has the most first party studios, and believe it or not, there are actually people who prefer the Microsoft made games over Sony or Nintendo, but that would be strictly opinion, just like your opinion on Sony's first party games.

We haven't actually had anything confirmed on the next Xbox aside from the fact that there is one and it's going to be revealed on May 21st, so why flip out right now about rumors and speculation?

Lastly I'll say that from a business standpoint Microsoft and Kinect made a lot of sense, the Xbox 360 was floundering a bit, they come out with Kinect and it helped draw in a lot of new gamer's, it doesn't matter if they are the same type of gamer that you are, they didn't abandon the core gamer, they were giving the core gamer's the franchises they bought their Xbox 360's for in the first place. Are they perfect? Should they have released more new IP's late in the generation? Yes and no I suppose, if it means we get all new IP's that rock people's socks off with the next Xbox, I was completely happy with what the 360 did, maybe some weren't, but that is a tactic that Microsoft used, better to launch with new IP's, better to have a strong launch, and it's not like the next Xbox wont have 90+% of the same games as the PlayStation 4, they will.

It all comes down to preference, and some people prefer Microsoft, some Sony and some Nintendo, and then there are people who buy everything because they are gamer's, like me.

If you don't want something, don't buy it, but don't knock people who do like options and might enjoy as many different types of games and way to play and enjoy entertainment as possible.

Peace out!
fsfsxii  +   943d ago
"the core eats it up" Just like what MS did mid gen, pulled the plug on the core and focused on the shovel ware that it kinect
Jek_Porkins  +   942d ago
Actually, if you look at first party Kinect titles, they didn't actually release many, especially after 2011, I think Kinect was a nice stopgap for them, kept the Xbox 360 flying off shelves while the majority of their studios worked on next generation Xbox games, so the new Xbox could very well have one of the best launch windows of all time.

How can you say they pulled the plug on core gamer's when they released Gears 3, Halo 4, Forza Horizon all within the last couple of years? Not to mention the plethora of Xbox Live Arcade games that I'd consider very core, Trials Evolution, Alan Wake's American Nightmare, Minecraft, Mark Of The Ninja, and Fez, so they have supported core gamer's, and they've not limited what third parties were able to put on the console.

I'm not knocking Sony, I think they've closed out this generation in a brilliant way, it's just clear Sony and Microsoft have different strategies when it comes to kicking off a generation and closing one out, Microsoft is saving new IP's for the next Xbox, and giving the Xbox 360 owners the games they bought their Xbox 360's for in the first place, Halo, Forza, Gears ect...

Sony on the other hand is releasing newer IP's on a console at the end of a generation, which is a bit risky, but could pay off for them in a big, big way. All this selling out the core nonsense is just fanboy babble though.

I mean if you look back to 2012, Microsoft released some of the most core games that year, including Halo 4, which was awesome, while Sony released Wonderbook, LBP Karting and PlayStation All Stars. I didn't hear anyone complain about abandoning core gamer's at that time.
T2  +   940d ago
jek_p - you make some good points but as a consumer, when i buy a product, I decide when to adopt new tech, not the company. It's like a cell phone, you buy it, the thing works great for a year, then starts to crap out. Then at year two there are no updates and the sales rep tells you "oh its just old, you need a new phone"... That type of stuff pisses me off to no end. So a two year old cell phone is old? How about you make a better product?

Anyway not to get too far off track, I own a 360, and there are no games I want for it coming this year, or have last year... halo is downhill, don't like gears, forza is just another racer to me. This leaves the same sour taste in my mouth. so you expect me to buy a nextbox for the effort MS is supposedly putting in for next gen? And how many years of effort are they going to put into it before its stagnant again?
... meanwhile I still haven't played Heavy Rain, LBP2, or NiNo Kuni, Last of Us on my ps3... and I'm struggling to get around to those before I get my ps4.... Brand Loyalty is earned.
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Letros  +   943d ago
How do you know they are not focus on gaming if they haven't revealed anything?
Godmars290  +   942d ago
Because they aren't focusing on gaming now. By all signs gaming hasn't been their real focus for years. Kinect intergration, becoming a medium for cable, making original programming and getting ad revenue/tailoring ads is all they've been talking about when they've talked.

While its very likely that they are coming up with new games, chances are that those games will be tailored towards their interests and agenda rather than what's considered "traditional" diversity.
Pillsbury1  +   941d ago
Just look at all the studios working on kinect titles, it is very clear where their focus is.

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