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Will Gaming Continue to be About Games?

AKR|1059d ago |Blog Post|34|

With the rise of the 8th-generation right on our doorsteps - All the buzz and hype is starting to expand into an enormous tsunami of excitement and mass hysteria. Every single day there's more major news that sends everyone in a frenzy ~ just praying for time to accelerate so they could finally get their hands on their shiny new "next-gen" devices and consoles.

But I'm worried. Why?

Well ~ Let's face it. What are common stuff you read when there's talk about a "next-gen" game or "next-gen" system?

"How much RAM does it have?"
"What type of GPU is it using?"
"How many cores does it have?"
"What engine is this running on?"
"How many polygons does it contain?"

It seems like, more or less, these days - most true-blue (a.k.a: hardcore) gamers seem to be more concerned about the technical details, more than the actual device or game. I think I see more people talking about graphics and specs, more than I see them saying things like:

"Man, this is gonna be fun!"
"I'm gonna enjoy this console!"

I mean - don't get me wrong. It's always nice to get the full details on a potential purchase - but why does it have to go this far? From my view of things - it seems like if the game isn't 1080P and running at 60FPS ~ there's suddenly a problem. What ever happened to simply getting hyped to up to run the store, by your new console, throwing in your game, and just having fun? Why is it so much of a concern as what's inside the system and what resolution the game is rendered in?

It seems like the main focus of "gaming" is no longer "to play games" but more along the lines of "analyzing games to the highest extent".

Is there anything wrong with this? Not entirely. To me, it just seems unnecessary, that's all. To be honest - this kind of behavior seems to fit more if you're a full-breed PC gamer - as it's PC users who really have to be conscience about what specs they need to run newer titles, as they're becoming increasingly more demanding, just as fast as new graphics cards and processors are rolling out. But console gamers seem to have also adopted the 'tech-head' attitude, and it really makes me facepalm to see people more concerned about what's inside the system and the specs behind the game.

Will this trend continue into the future? Will gaming really become more of a tech-lesson than an entertainment-dispenser?

Your thoughts.

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zerocrossing1059d ago (Edited 1059d ago )

If you ask me, this sudden new found "appreciation" for the technical side of console gaming is nothing but a dick measuring contest.

Let's face it, if a console is superior in anyway in comparison to its competition what's the first thing we see? a load of gloating and rubbing it in, and why is that? because for whatever reason some people seem to think that they are an extension of whatever they are a fan of. For example, Sony has better exclusives than Microsoft, so all the Sony fanboys start acting superior as if someone being Sony fans makes them better than fans of MS. And it's the same with Microsoft fans, Xbox Live hasn't been hacked (that we know of) and wow, suddenly the MS fanboys feel as if they're superior to Sony fans, it's a seemingly never ending cycle of stupidity...

Like you mentioned above, gamers should be focusing more on having fun playing games, and looking forward to new consoles and new content, not turning the whole thing into a playground argument.

PopRocks3591059d ago

^This. Bubble up for intelligence.

If Killzone was on Xbox and Halo was on Playstation, I guarantee the respective fanbases would be saying different things about them. Specs also mean nothing unless a dev knows how to properly utilize them.

Bethesda's work on PS3 (in contrast to Rockstar's) comes to mind.

_FantasmA_1059d ago

Xbox Live has been hacked. There were no fanboy wars like we have today until all the Xjocks came on to the scene and pretended they were games. They are jocks, who would slap each other on the butt if they could after getting a killstreak on HaloCODGears.

And if M$ and EA have their way, gaming will be more about products and proffit and everthing will monopolized. They want to control everything and if they win you will have to pay M$ for broadband, for the console, for the games, and for mintues played.

_FantasmA_1059d ago

Sorry I meant Xjocks came on to the scene and pretended they were gamers. But they only play HaloCODGears and don't know much about anything else.

LoveOfTheGame1058d ago (Edited 1058d ago )

I'm sorry, is there something wrong with being a jock? Because, running the football team's defense never stopped me from loving zelda, final fanatasy, and KOTOR.

Edit: Grammatical Error

HonestDragon1058d ago

Agreed, zerocrossing. Some gamers seem to be focusing on power of the next gen consoles. I mean, that's okay to see what the systems are capable of, but that shouldn't be the center of why a consumer goes with one system over the other. If that were the case, a number of people would take their four hundred or five hundred dollars and upgrade their PC. If they don't care about power, then handhelds would be a first choice (especially if they are on the go a lot).

Quality over quantity is what applies here. Pre-orders don't determine success. That only guarantees sales. It's like the original Kinect. Just because it sold a lot of units and made Microsoft money, its critical reception was poor due to performance issues. What boils down to the success of a system is its overall performance and games.

If history taught us anything, the Xbox One is the system has the most to lose. Not only because of the bad reception it had at the initial conference, but because of the Red Ring fiasco with its predecessor. That was one big problem plaguing the Xbox 360. The Playstation 3 came in second for system failures, while the Wii was third. If the Xbox One develops a similar problem, then Microsoft has a lot of angry consumers to answer to.

The following articles are from 2009 to 2010. With the Xbox 360 released on November 22, 2005, people still having the same problems with the system four to five years later does not paint a good picture.

http://www.gamespot.com/new...

http://www.gamespot.com/new...

http://www.computerandvideo...

http://www.theregister.co.u...

I just hope that games will be what gamers are talking about more than "graphical power" or "brand name" to prove some unneeded superiority.

s45gr321058d ago

I agree nor disagree but is true as a PC gamer obviously you are going to worry about the hardware since you're building it piece by piece. I understand console gamers have been pretty moronic this couple of years. My biggest is the games themselves meaning are we console gamers will get cheat codes, free unlockables, map editors, mini games back. Sadly it looks at the moment to pay to play whether is online gaming, microtransanctions and loads and loads of dlc content like hair styles. I mean gamers should start looking at what these game developers are offering first up open world games. My biggest concern with this open world is pay to play style games were the gamer pays for every single thing, the other lack of content meaning no dynamic story (your actions change the direction of the story), is just missions and side missions no mini games or seeing how these ai beings live and their hobbies (mini games). Finally, more and more games are mixing single player campaign with online campaign I. e. the crew, the division, Destiny to name a few. What if due to your reluctance for not paying Gold or Plus you are shunned from a boss fight since other people are playing it or a clan is fighting the boss. I don't know PC gaming is looking better since online gaming is free and mods

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wishingW3L1059d ago

without the specs next-gen games would be no different to what we are playing now.

PopRocks3591059d ago (Edited 1059d ago )

Making Call of Duty a little prettier didn't really make it look more appealing to most people, now did it.

Besides, the graphics on Battlefield 4 look pretty good, but I'm still not going to play it. I don't care how it looks. It seems to play exactly like Battlefield 3. Being that Battlefield is not my cup of tea, I won't be playing it, next-gen visuals or not.

ThePsychoGamer1058d ago

Since ya know, the only thing that specs determine is how good a game looks. /s

Really got to love the fanboy logic right there.

PopRocks3591058d ago

@ThePsychoGamer

I am a fanboy for speaking the truth? As if anyone (for the most part) bring specs in regards to anything that involves gameplay. Most people are all about textures, model detail and other aspects that may make a game look better but in actuality has little to do with them playing better.

It falls in line with what I said, just because a military shooter has photorealistic graphics does not mean I will be inclined to play it and that's the primary reason anyone has told me to go out and play a PS4 or Xbox One. Those are not the games I want to play. Kingdom Hearts III, Knack and Killer Instinct are what I want to play, and as far as I know those games are not as demanding as Battlefield 4.

But hey, I guess I am a fanboy for liking those games and not the same stupid military shooters from last year, right?

ThePsychoGamer1058d ago

" am a fanboy for speaking the truth? As if anyone (for the most part) bring specs in regards to anything that involves gameplay. Most people are all about textures, model detail and other aspects that may make a game look better but in actuality has little to do with them playing better. "

That is a load of BS, in fact the very comment you replied to was stating the fact that better specs allow developers to do much more with there gamess.

" Those are not the games I want to play. Kingdom Hearts III, Knack and Killer Instinct are what I want to play, and as far as I know those games are not as demanding as Battlefield 4. "

So do you know how system demanding Knack is? All we really have to go by is trailers. as for Kingdom Hearts III, all we have seen is a few seconds of the game. I curoies as to how you can gleam anything about the specs required to run it from just that.

PopRocks3591057d ago

"That is a load of BS, in fact the very comment you replied to was stating the fact that better specs allow developers to do much more with there gamess."

Correction; it offers the POTENTIAL for better games. Better specs mean absolutely nothing if a dev is rushed or is just downright terrible. It's why I hold WayForward games in much higher regard than any Battlefield, Call of Duty or other super popular shooting games that I'm supposed to fondle myself over.

"So do you know how system demanding Knack is? All we really have to go by is trailers. as for Kingdom Hearts III, all we have seen is a few seconds of the game."

Okay, what the hell kind of logic is this? Do you think for a second that launch titles for console games are anywhere NEAR the level of fidelity that Battlefield 4 is supposed to utilize? We're talking about a next-generation PC game with entire cities for maps with underpasses and entire skyscrapers that can be demolished all in a 64 player multiplayer game.

On a base level, that's more than enough to assume that neither Knack nor Kingdom Hearts III will come anywhere close to what Battlefield 4 is demanding from hardware, especially if EA is having trouble optimizing the game for consoles.

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s45gr321058d ago

You are correct these upcoming open world games are not possible to make on current generation systems unless you want to deal with loads and loads of loading times

EXVirtual1059d ago

I think this is how it is: From the announcement to the launch of a console is about building up a good reputation with that console to give it a good push out the gate. Power is a factor in this. After launch, it'll almost be solely about the games.

s45gr321058d ago

It should be both or else you may end up buying a pretty game with microtransanctions galore or full of bugs.

XboxFun1059d ago (Edited 1059d ago )

"How much RAM does it have?"
"What type of GPU is it using?"
"How many cores does it have?"
"What engine is this running on?"
"How many polygons does it contain?"

I agree, when did this happen? I remember the great SNES/Genesis war, besides blast processing all both sides had were games to compare and argue about. I remember debating with a kid about how bad a$$ ActRaiser was and being completely shut down by Madden running 10x better on Genesis.

Now we have people demanding FCC reports and praising hUMA and reposing specs in every thread. For most and not all, this type of behavior is only to further their insecurities of their beliefs. They feel threatened and need to re-assure themselves behind the comfort of supposed superior tech.

But if this gen has taught us anything it's not what is mainly under the hood but how it's used. Devs are going to have to step up with good design, gameplay and fun factor. The tools are there on each system to make it happen.

DragonKnight1059d ago

"Now we have people demanding FCC reports and praising hUMA and reposing specs in every thread. For most and not all, this type of behavior is only to further their insecurities of their beliefs. They feel threatened and need to re-assure themselves behind the comfort of supposed superior tech."

And let's not forget the power of the cloud, hidden GPU's, and eSRAM magic.

XboxFun1059d ago (Edited 1059d ago )

Also we shouldn't forget the power of the cell, "we'll never pay for online" and 8 gigs of RAM dedicated to games only.

You are absolutely right Dragon, glad we see eye to eye on this.

DragonKnight1059d ago

LOL! You had to dig into the Past? Lame.

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DragonKnight1059d ago

That's easy, since the initial comment was talking about the current buzzwords of the PS4, replied with the buzzwords of the 360, and then that was replied with statements from 2005/06. Do you need an education about linear time?

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ABeastNamedTariq1059d ago

@XBFun

Sony never said 8GB of RAM was dedicated to games. That was a rumor that spread out of control.

s45gr321058d ago

But I like the cloud computing concept. In five years from now we might get a Netflix like service for games. No more buying expensive outdated hardware, no more fiddling with discs and play our games in front of the tv or via our tablets. Is the true future of console gaming

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NarcolepZZZZZZ1057d ago

Genesis does what NintenDON'T. With BLAST processing!

rainslacker1059d ago

Spec comparisons have been around since the dawn of consoles. It's nothing new, and it tends to subside after the first few months except to say "My console is better than yours" arguments.

It's not worth getting worked up over. The discussion about games is here, it just doesn't usually make the front page unless it's a game that can be trolled. N4G would do well to make a better system since more actual game related articles have a hard time getting any notice or discussion.

Basically if you stick the the front page, you aren't really helping the situation. Let people care about what they want to care about.

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