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Fanboys will it ever end? the Metal Gear Solid HD collection on Xbox360

clockworkrazor | 1626d ago
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No matter what the fanboys might say it is a GOOD THING THAT the Metal Gear Solid HD Collection is coming to BOTH the PS3 and XBOX360.

The fact is that many traditional Playstation gamers did move over to Xbox360. not all but many did.
There will be a lot of Xbox360 gamers that will be very happy to play there favorite Metal Gear Solid games on the Xbox360 and earn achievements for them all while talking to their friends that will be enjoying the games at the same time.

I ask some of you Playstation fans what exactly is wrong with that? are some you actually mad that more gamers will be able to experience the greatness that is Metal Gear some for the first time?
Are some of you fanboys actually that narrow minded ?

The argument about the sales of the Xbox version of Metal Gear Solid 2 : Substance is a weak one simply because that was a completely different generation and when online was not yet a big issue for console gamers.

This generation many gamers that grew up on both Nintendo and Playstation have moved over to the Xbox360.

Most gamers believe that Nintendo lost support from many of its older hardcore base with its terrible online and casual direction and the PS3 frankly did too little too late when it came to online functionality especially in the earlier days of the current generation.

I have been a gamer for over 30 years.

My first gaming console was the Atari2600 I quickly moved on to the N.E.S. and thats when I became completely addicted to videogames. My first addiction was the Legend of Zelda.

I favored the SNES over the Sega Genesis but both were great gaming machines for their time.

I didnt care much for the N64 ( I know a lot of 20s somethings here at N4G luv the N64 ) and moved over to the Playstion 1 back in the 32-bit era and then came Metal Gear Solid and that changed EVERYTHING for me as a gamer.

At that time I was a devout Playstion gamer but I also liked the Sega Saturn with its excellent arcade ports of the Street fighter games and excellent exclusives.
Heck I still miss my beloved Dreamcast but that heartbreak is better left for another blog altogether.
I stayed with the Playstation brand through the PS2 era but still enjoyed the Xbox with games like Splinter Cell and Fable.

This generation I bought A shiny new PS3 the day that Metal Gear Solid 4 was released. as a long time metal gear fan it was worth it just for that one game but then I tried to get more out of the PS3 online games at that time and I found myself more and more interested in what the Xbox360 had to offer at least with its online component.
I bought the 360 about a year after my PS3 and I found myself using it for my online gaming almost constantly all the while my PS3 collected dust until Uncharted 2 was released. Then I went right back to gaming on the Xbox360 and never stopped.

I decided that Sure the PS3 has some great exclusives but the Xbox360 had everything else covered. with its own kool exlusives like Gears of War and Fable to all the same 3rd party games that the PS3 had.

My point? things change in life and if you are a gamer the world changes at a much faster rate than any other hobby in existence.

Do I still like Nintendo ? yes. Do I still think highly of the Playstation brand ? very much so. Do I enjoy gaming on the Xbox360 more than I did the PS3? YES.
WHY ? because things change my friends thats why.

Let me put it this way. I think that Epic should release a Gears of War collection on blue-ray for PS3.
Why ? so that more gamers can experience another very fun 3rd person shooter to go along with Uncharted thats why.

Ya see kids? its not soo difficult to stop the fanboy BS and hate.

We are all gamers and the world as a whole looks at us in a different light than so-called "normal" people.

People that dont like or even understand videogames hate on gamers. SO why do gamers enjoy hating on each other?

Why do some gamers insist on hating other gamers?

What the hell is the point?

Why decide to be a blind fanboy instead of enjoying other gamers opinions and getting to know more of the very same people that like videogames just as much as you?

PC elitists hate on console gamers. Playstation fanboys hate on Xbox360 gamers it goes on and on , round and round.

If you are older than 18 and are still a fanboy hating on other gamers then you need to grow up and mature and join in with people that understand your chosen hobby instead of wasting valuable time and energy hating on your fellow gamers.

xX-StolenSoul-Xx  +   1626d ago
Im not mad that xbox is getting the Hd collection, I mean should i be? I don't see whats the problem.
clockworkrazor  +   1626d ago
I agree.

My whole point is that there shouldnt be a problem.
darthv72  +   1625d ago
this is so funny....
Clockwork, you sound like me in many ways. I play the games not the systems. If a game i want to play is on a system I dont own....I get that system. Not that it should matter to anyone (other than my wife) but I actually enjoy collecting the various systems because of their diverse selection of games.

The whole MGS thing...hell the MSX and NES had the first two metal gear games so should nintendo fans be upset they arent getting the MGSHD collection? I'm sure the wii/wii-u could run it.

Anyway, my collection of MGS games spans 3 different systems. GC (mgs1:twin snakes), Xbox (mgs2:substance) and ps3 (mgs4). If I choose to get the whole collection on the 360 or ps3 then it is my choice. Many will disagree but they really dont have a right to because it is MY CHOICE.

Old school fanboys existed long before the snes/genesis days. Yes there were ones in the 2600/coleco/intelivision days. There just wasnt a way to be heard on a global scale like there is now. What gets me is the full on ridicule one side does to the other without any real compelling arguments as to why.

It is all opinion and not fact that drives these gamers to do what they do. I dont have anything against someone having an opinion so long as they dont try and force that opinion on me as some sort of fact. Yet here we are.....
bozebo  +   1625d ago
"diverse selection of games"

Not that diverse this gen.
theonlylolking  +   1625d ago
I am just fine as long as they dont get MGS4.
NJShadow  +   1626d ago
I agree, the Metal Gear Solid franchise is an epic one, and it'll be nice to see others just as perplexed, yet infatuated with the story like we are, it's fantastic.

Now what does puzzle me, is how someone could choose the SNES over the Genesis. ;)
SilentNegotiator  +   1626d ago
Is anyone really going to be annoyed if MGS4 is on the third Xbox?
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e-p-ayeaH  +   1625d ago
As long it gets trophies on ps3 i guess not lol
SageHonor  +   1626d ago
Wow people are actually mad that the 360 is getting MGS collection? How pathetic.

Thats just as pathetic as the people arguing and debating over Deus Ex's loading time comparisons
pixelsword  +   1625d ago
I agree with you sage, but who are these people? Although I haven't been rummaging through the threads, I haven't heard anyone being upset.
PantherDST  +   1626d ago
Not sure what circle of friends you hang with, but I've never heard anyone complain about MGS HD being on Xbox.
mastiffchild  +   1625d ago
Me neither. In fact the only stupid comments i've had are a couple of idiots who said they didn't want it because the series was "just cutscenes" and "glorified movies" that have no gameplay or place on "their" system. I guess there will be a number of PS3 fantards who'' say that the series doesn't belong on Xbox but when MGS2 and 3 have already appeared on Xbox what's the big loss anyway? ONE PSP game that a ton of PS3 gamers never got the chance to play yet anyway?

As I say, though, there just isn't an issue here-none at all -and if a few on either side are unhappy about it they can keep themselves warm by ignoring the whole thing, no?
outwar6010  +   1625d ago
how i always love the mgs cut scenes
blackburn10  +   1625d ago
Yeah, were did you get that. Why is it because about 5 people complain about something that automatically means we are all mad about it? Why should we care? The games in MGS HD are at least a decade old and more. Why should that bother me?
FredEffinChopin  +   1625d ago
Who's complaining?
reuben4boston  +   1625d ago
I personally am not mad that it's going to xbox. However, I do find it funny that everyone trumpeting that it's going to xbox flamed the series six months ago. Saying it was all cutscenes and story and no gameplay at all. I love the games, I don't mind if more people can enjoy them, but to call out ps3 fanboys out for being frustrated without talking about how xbox fanboys were flaming it, to the point that sites were constantly being created to publish false reviews, is hypocrisy at it's finest.
digitaledge  +   1625d ago
I agree with this blog post pretty much completely. :)
Ingram  +   1625d ago to point out who complained? also, you just presented your respectable opinion and preferences as fact.

And that's ok, really, but you make it sound like 360 is the end of the food chain, where its users will never attack others, just be attacked by delusional PS fanboys.

I also don't like you paternalist and know-it-all tone for presenting half truths and captain obvious chowder, but hey, might just be my rabid PS3 fanboy POV.
mastiffchild  +   1625d ago
IDK about that but, like I';ve said, the only moans I've heard personally were FROM 360 fans who don't think the series is,. basically, worthy of being called "games" to begin with. To imagine there aren't idiots owning EVERY system is to be in total denial, sadly.There is NO "end of the food chain" where games are concerned.
FredEffinChopin  +   1625d ago
I'm Frederic Chopin, and I approve of this comment.

*hits the bub*
Ingram  +   1625d ago
Thanks dude, a deeply offended Nintendo Wii user bubble-raped me recently, hehe.
WhiteLightning  +   1625d ago
Nobody really cares do they.

It's not like it was a new game in development for the PS3, got half way through it's development then went multiplatform and then stripped of a load of content...maybe even dumbed down a little not making the game reach it's full potential that it could of on the PS3.

Nope....don't see a problem here, it's not L.A Noire you know
Silly gameAr  +   1625d ago
I must have missed this one. Where is this uproar about the HD collection being on the 360?
JM-9  +   1625d ago
It doesn't really matter if the Metal Gear Solid HD collection is coming to XBOX 360. This isn't the first time a Metal Gear game hasn't been on Playstation. The first 2 Metal Gear games originally weren't on Playstation, and MGS: Ghost Babel is exclusively on Gameboy Color. Also, both MGS1 and MGS2 were later ported to other consoles.
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unknownhero1123  +   1625d ago
actually, mgs1 wasn't ported but remade on the gamecube.
e-p-ayeaH  +   1625d ago
Why is this on a blog?

The problem is because you people care about discussing pointless subjects like this.

Fanboys and trolls are just a mere distration on the internet that just exist because people get bored that´s all and you guys make a big fuss about it.Sure many may be telling truth between lies and vice-versa but who cares were talking game preferences/likes not politics.

MGS HD colection is gonna be released for the 360 be upset if it makes you feel any better.
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stephmhishot  +   1625d ago
Yes, its always "PS3 Fanboys" attacking innocent 360 supporters.
clockworkrazor  +   1625d ago
It was not my intention to "call out" PS3 fans specifically.

Like others have stated fanboys have been around since the old Atari2600 / colecovision days.
Heck I remember a fight back in grade school over the old Nintendo vs. Sega thing and that was actually before the SNES and Genesis. funny now when I think bout it.

The thing is if you read through many of the responses here at N4G about the whole Metal Gear Solid HD collection topic you can see that either there are many gamers that really dont know the true history of the Metal Gear franchise or there are just some gamers in denial about the fact that Metal Gear was never a true Playstation exclusive.

For example I played the first two Metal Gear games on a friends imported MSXII system back in '91 when the second Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake was released in Japan. That console was made by microsoft.
Like other older gamers here at N4G I also played the first "port" of Metal Gear on the N.E.S. which wasnt actually made by Hideo Kojima.

In fact one of my favorite Metal Gear games is on the Nintendo Gamecube Metal Gear Solid : the Twin Snakes which in most MG fans opinion is an excellent remake / update to the now ancient looking and playing original MGS.

Also I was not trying to represent my opinions as fact even though I could see how that might have come across that way in this blog.

I was simply trying to point out that when it comes to videogames ones tastes and opinions change from generation to generation and I was just giving an example of what I had experienced as a gamer from the old 8-bit days up to current gen and the platforms and games of my choosing thats all.

Also I will agree that there are a large group of 360 gamers out there that will simply not "get" nor understand Metal Gear Solid even if they bothered to play the MGS collection.

Its unfortunate that many younger gamers this gen dont even bother to play the campaigns on games like Call of Duty when all they care about is multiplayer but hey to each his own.

There are still a lot of gamers out there both young and older that will get a chance to experience these incredible MGS games for the first time and thats all good peeps.
Tuxedo_Mask  +   1625d ago
There were a lot of grammatical errors in this post, and the transition from your main view to your background in video games was kind of rough too, although I can see why you'd mention it.

As to the topic, I don't know why anyone would care that games that have already been out for as long as MGS2 and 3 have are now going to be available for the Xbox360. Peace Walker is a nice bonus, but people who have both the PSP game and choose to buy this HD collection for the PS3 will be able to use the same save file, so I suppose that's an added bonus for those who choose that route.

As for the suggestion of a Gears of War collection for the PS3, in my opinion I don't see why it would be necessary. I'm sure there are some PS3 only gamers who would welcome it, but if they really wanted to play it they probably would have already bought an Xbox360 by now. I understand you're using the idea for the sake of your argument, but there are good reasons why some games don't make an appearance on other consoles.

Exclusive titles like the Uncharted series have shown what can be done when the developers focus on developing solely for the PS3, and while the Xbox360 has advantages of its own multiplatform games always pale in comparison to exclusives. The games in the Metal Gear collection are from the PSP and PS2, and while the graphics have been improved for the new presentation they are still old games on new systems. Had Konami decided to release MGS4 for the Xbox360, which would probably be more trouble than it would be worth, it would have been a bigger deal than this. Could the 360 handle MGS4? Maybe, but we haven't seen any news of it crossing because it was developed exclusively for the PS3, just like the PS3 has yet to see news of Alan Wake or The Witcher 2 being in development.
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