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Playstation 4 and Xbox 720; Minimum specs

Have you ever seen someone speculating in what kind of hardware that the next generation of consoles will feature? As I thought. I am the only one who makes such attempts.

These speculations are based on what I believe will be the minimum specifications of the next-gen hardware. EDIT: Please be aware of the fact that these speculations aren't based on technical knowledge. Its just an estimate based on the current gen.

Lets start at the resolution as this in many ways represents how many pixels the hardware needs to deal with at once, at maximum. Most games today on Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 runs in 720p, 30 fps, no?

One of 720p resolutions can be 1280×720, so lets go with that. 1280x720 is equal to 921 600 pixels. And those pixels updates 30 times every second.

The resolution in the next-gen is most likely going be 1080p. (But with 720p support obviously). Another thing that we are going to see is a minimum of 120 fps to get a 60fps stereoscopic 3D which would be an increase of 400% on the base fps. Possible support for higher resolution for movies, but unlikely for games as the hardware required would be extremely expensive.

So with these predictions we get the following:

One of the 1080p resolutions can be 1920x1080 so lets go with that. 1920x1080 is equal to 2 083 600 pixels. Which is an increase of 125 %. Lets use that number and look at what the next gen specifications will have as a minimum.

So, both consoles have a total of 512 Mb of memory available, how it is used is another matter. But added up, it is still 512 Mb. Those 512 Mb are used to output games at 720p and 30 fps.

Now, in order to achieve the "1080p 120 fps" we have to look at what is increased the most and try to add that up. The fps has a 400 % increase. This will mean that the least total amount of memory that is going to be available should be 2048 Mb. By my reasoning, that is the lowest possible amount. Now it is not that simple.

The next generation will not come with the same graphical features as todays consoles. It will be expanded greatly with, for example, tessellation and other dx 11 features. All the new features will also increase the demands on the new hardware. So 2048 Mb is what it would be if it simply was an increase of resolution and framrate. And that is not realistic. But the next part is really hard to guess, simply it’s a matter of how well the developers use the processing power within the next gen consoles. An estimate, and what I believe is a good one, is to double that amount. So I believe that the next gen will feature 4096 Mb of total memory. Which is an increase of 800 %. And if you look back on previous increases in hardware capabilities when a new gen of consoles arrive, this is close.

But we are not done yet. Another thing that is obvious is the type of physical media that the next gen will feature. All 3 will most likely feature a Blu-ray player. To go another way would, in a business perspective, be simply retarded. Blu-ray and HD is becoming the standard, and to skip out on this would be a severe mistake. Its very hard to predict what the size of the discs will be, how much data they will be able to hold. Today a Blu-ray used in the Playstation 3 can hold up to about 50 Gb of data. There will most likely be an increase in capacity, but it doesn’t seem likely that it will be more than 100 Gb due to the fact that this is one of the most expensive parts in a console.

As for the hard-drives in the next-gen consoles; it is unlikely that they are going for a mechanical one in the SKU's. SSD's are becoming cheaper and cheaper everyday, and my bet is that we will see an SSD in the next-gen consoles. But this all depends on how expensive they are. If they choose to go with an SSD from the start, then it will be at least 160 Gb, but with a mechanical hard-drive my bet is 500 Gb.

There is one other, very interesting thing about the next Playstation that has come to my attention with the upcoming release of the NGP. Why I bring this up will soon be explained.

The NGP will feature a new physical media, some sort of card based media. And it will also feature something called PlaystationSuite. And this is where it gets interesting.

It would be very strange if Playstation 4 wasn’t PlaystationSuite enabled. The name is “PlaystationSuite” after all. And this makes it very probable that the Playstation 4 will feature a card reader that can read those cards so that you can play your NGP games through your ps4 (Those games that doesn’t have the touchpads as a must, obviously). But it is also possible that Sony would release some sort of pad for the ps4 so you could play all games of the NGP on your ps4. This seems like the only way to go, since Sony is starting to focus on making it easier for developers to develop games for multiple platforms at once.

Other obvious features are the lastest Wifi-standards, USB-ports of the latest standards, improved versions of Playstation Move/Kinect, and Blutooth for controllers.

To sum up these speculations and predictions:

Playstation 4:

Blu-Ray with the capacity of at least 100Gb
4096 Mb of total memory (Both RAM and video-memory included)
Card-reader to read NGP games
PlaystationSuite enabled
Blutooth with support for up to 7 players at once.
An improved version of Playstation Move
An improved version of the Cell-processor (!) This is if they make it compatible with PlaystationSuite.
An SSD hard-drive of at least 160 Gb or a mechanical one of at least 500 Gb

Xbox 720:

Blu-Ray drive
4096 Mb of total memory (Both RAM and video-memory included)
Improved version of Kinect
An SSD hard-drive of at least 160 Gb or a mechanical one of at least 500 Gb

These predictions are the only ones that seems to be possible to make from what we have today. What kind of architecture, processor-types and other, is impossible to predict.

Hope you enjoyed the reading and please comment with your thoughts on this and your own predictions, but please try to keep them realistic :)


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Caleb_1412557d ago

I think it would be worth mentioning the actual online capabilities of both next-gen consoles aswell.

One thing that both Microsoft and Sony certainly must do is to make online connectability between this gen of consoles and their successors. What I mean is that we should still be able to use our same accounts on these new consoles and we should still be able to have the same online features with regards to friends-list's, etc. Most probably in the form of an icon next to a person's username saying whether they're on a PS3 or PS4.

Just an idea, but I think it is imperative that they both do this so as not to alienate the playerbase.

a08andan2557d ago

Transfer of accounts to the PS4 will not be a problem, I see no reason to why they wouldn't make it possible to transfer. They have enabled cloud-saves so when the launch of the ps4 draws near, we will probably get an option to upload our ps3 profile to the cloud, so I don't think you have to worry :)

But cross-generation play is another matter. Then the ps4 would have to be backwardscompatible, and that I don't know about. If they use some updated version of the Cell-processor in the ps4, then I think it is much more likely that it will have BC, but otherwise I am not sure that they will have.

kancerkid2557d ago

Your math is fine, but your logic and understanding of GPUs/CPUs is severely flawed. Just because you have a jump of twice the resolution does not mean you need twice the VRam on the GPU.

a08andan2557d ago

I am not saying that. I am saying that the amount of total ram in the system (it includes Vram, RAM and all other types of RAM)

Petro2555d ago

What is Blutooth? Sounds like some sort of toothpaste.

Collego2557d ago

Excellent idea. I hope you submitted that to both MS and Sony.

jerethdagryphon2557d ago

historically previous to this generation is was fairly large jump in ram

with the snes having 1 meg and the n64 being 4 so at that boint your 400% increase hold true however

gamecube was a jump of over 10 times to 43 meg

wii howver was only a doublign of that to 88

playstation shows a differnt story

2 meg on ps1 to 32 on ps2 and 512 on ps3 a jump of 16x and 16 times

microsoft shows 64 meg and 512 again a jump of 8

its not linier additionally while quad core pcs with 4 gig of ram and a gurther gig on graphic are standard only in a few cases is it acually needed

chips today are incredicbly efficient

id say it may double maybe quad to 2 gig but more then that costs will skyrocket

darthv722557d ago

why would you think existing profile data would not be forward compatible?

MS had that in mind when they made live in the first place. Original xbox owners were able to migrate their gamertag to the 360 without issue.

Where I found a flaw was in the purchase history of original xbox live arcade content not being automatically available in new update 360 form. I had purchased a few games (zuma, joust, smash tv) on the original xbox and while those games had 360 versions, I was not able to download those newer console versions for free. Bummer.

I would doubt MS would make whatever their newer system is that restrictive again. Keep in mind that the 360 rendition of live is what really grew the service and the original xbox would be the testing ground. They will obviously have some new features but restricting your profile data from advancing to the next level (hopefully) will not be one of them.

PSN I dont know about. That is still growing to find its place and ideas of what is/is not available to the free users is likely to change as it grows. But your profile would likely be able to migrate like in live.

Caleb_1412557d ago

I would think that because we haven't had a second generation of online focused consoles yet. Sure the PS2 and Xbox had online but it was nowhere near the standards of what the PS3 and 360 are like so as of yet we cannot be sure whether this is going to be the case.

Godmars2902557d ago

At this point what they put into the system isn't going to be the thing, but what they can get out and how quickly. he big problem with this gen, not that few notice or admit it, is that some things weren't possible or prohibitive. Features were removed and especially sprite based titles because they had to be high resolution.

There was also the thing with the 360 leveling out maybe too quickly because its dev tools were easy to use compared to the PS3's. Now 360 titles are struggling to look as good as early PS3 ones. Every time there's a multiplatform argument like with Crysis 2, its abut it looking than a PS3 exclusive.

darthv722557d ago

The debate of who is better comes down to the similarity of their hardware this gen. I dont know if that was on purpose or accident but I highly doubt the performance differences will be as close as they are currently.

Regardless of the actual specs, it will be in the presentation that will set each one apart. New features to enhance the gaming experience as opposed to raw power. Dont get me wrong...power is something that ensures the experience is fulfilling but it is what that experience contains that will matter more.

--------2557d ago

Yeah, I doubt the hardware specs will be too close (Xbox/Playstation) We'll have to wait and see. As usual they'll both be trying to out do eachother technically, visually etc. - So it works out for us.

King_many_layers2556d ago

I agree with you there particularly Darth.

I can't necessarily being too large of a jump in terms of how much Raw power is going to affect our experience.

In my opinion the main way in which things are going to be affected with the next generation of consoles is going to be the operating systems.
The Xbox has completely got the upper hand with their operating system over the Playstation as so many elements of it are just so well put together and streamlined. The interactivity between playing games to being able to very easily manage conversations, messages and parties is a large part of it's overall success.

But there is still room for improvement, ones in which sony especially have a bigger chance to capatalise upon.

Sony have the Xperia Play (and further iterations), the 'NGP' and a whole next system (PS4) to intertwine together in ways that could be incredibly intuitive.

This combined with a service I think has a lot of untapped scope and potential in Playstation Home. There is a huge amount of option s.

The PS4 could have an OS much like the XBox's at the moment with it's ease of access and great presentation. The Playstation profile really could be expanded upon, allowing for greater personal presentations which could be linked through the NGP and the Xperia play.

Imagine being able to go on your playstation 4 racking up your virtual rewards, perhaps a theme or such for earning a platinum trophy, only to be able to go through onto your XPlay and use the theme through a built in PS Suite. Perhaps a whole section in the suite could be PS rewards.

The PS suite could become a whole section in it's own right rather than the XMB (or whatever it actually will be) when you are playing a game.

The next Generation is really quite exciting for me, but I do get the feeling I'm going to be dissapointed by the connectivity... Although the NGP has me remaining hopeful.

trounbyfire2557d ago

ps4 = PS3 with these add features + just update the current wifi,Bluetooth,web browser and so on

-keep 8 core cell (to save money + the cell hasn't been pushed yet) if you add a new cell the cost would skyrocket
-more powerful GPU
-at least double the ram
-card reader/NGP card reader is a nice add
-PS3 and xbox are the pioneers of a OS running in a background so they both need to be optimize for running an OS while playing a game as well as true multitasking like pause a game and watch a video
-Higher capacity bluray

if sony follows this they could have the cheaper console. Wii HD is a horrible idea but Nintendo is always does BC.
the so called 720 or xbox 3 needs a new CPU and GPU and a new disk media so cost will be high in my view.

Sony took a hit this gen but champ is back next gen when they could have the cheapest console and the most powerful also the xbox3 and PS4 should launch H2H.

PS4 = $400

Neko_Mega2557d ago

You do know Sony has made money from the PS3 Vs how many 360's sold?

Sony has reported $50mill more, which isn't a bad deal when they only sold 47mill worldwide (At the point of time).

HD_GAMER19892557d ago (Edited 2557d ago )

yeah all the ps3 needs is more ram and a better graphics card, and faster and larger blu ray drive.but i have suspicion theyre going to pimp out the original cell cpu by making it smaller more efficient and faster.

also isnt the ps3 only using like 6 or 7 cores out of the 8.

by using all 8 plus

i want a fully integrated psn from the start though with better features.

and is theyre away to improve the bluetooth chat while playing games man talking to your friends online is a garbled mess with way to much static.and ear damaginf high pitch screeching noises. like i love bluetooth headsets but man they are way to sensitive and maybe its not the bluetooth and its the connection but theres got to be a way to improve voice chat cause i got good internet plus a 130 dollar jawbone era and it sounds like shit sometimes. I hate the 360 but man xbox live is amazing. sometimes i wish the ps3 had the xbox live.

Neko_Mega2557d ago

I so see Sony marketing a new disc for PS4, most likely the 1TB disc that has been worked on.

I do think 360 will get Bluray but mostly because Sony is going with a new disc format, because I don't think Microsoft would pay Sony to use Bluray.

It would hurt Microsoft because Sony will make some money off of each system sold.

Kon2555d ago

hahahah 1TB disc for next gen consoles... Kids these days...

Neko_Mega2555d ago

You might what to look it up, there is already a disc that does it. Just they haven't market it yet.

bwazy2557d ago

I think we're well past the era for 1080p. Many computer monitors can easily go 1600p+ easily, sorry for lack of exact resolution.

HD_GAMER19892557d ago (Edited 2557d ago )

dude thats the dumbest comment i ever heard yeah moniters can go that high to bad in takes a gaming PC to achieve that and thats not guarenteed to have a stable framerate. if every next gen console game was 1080p native with a 60fps + id be happy.

your just being completely illogical though.

plus with 3d and all

Neko_Mega2557d ago

Plus from what I seen, its very rare to get some of the parts to run that high or even higher and the fact that most PC games lack the support for it to.

HD_GAMER19892557d ago

yeah ive down some gaming on a pc a bit and unless you got a serious computer theres so many factors that cause the frame rate to drop. having it on 1080p with some aas and mlaa and so fourth with 30+ framerate is an accomplishment. the guy above is just a biased pc gamer that has a bad ass rig or hes just too stupid to realize people use their consoles on hd tvs not pc moniters.

pc gamers just hate the idea of sitting on a couch with a controller in your hands and a 50 inch lcd 1080p tv infront of you.

they wont stop till they turn that image into a 26in 2560 x 1440 pc moniter computer desk chair mouse and keyboard 2000 dollar gaming rig to power that moniter. last but not least a hunch backed pc nerd with carpal tunnel sitting infront of it all.

oh and a n4g account so you can troll console based articles. and say pc's the best on a uncharted 3 article *facepalm*

Neko_Mega2556d ago

I found a computer that does 48GB of ram and the tower is huge (Big like a box for a SD TV that is 37inchs).

With it fully build to play anything, it is about 20,000 dollars and that isn't counting anything but the computer with no screen, keyboard or mouse.

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