It won't sell sadly. I'd love to play this though. View

360 can be pirated = BAD
Microsoft bans pirates = BAD

What do people want here? View

Honestly, Forza is just a hardcore market. Personally, racing games in general don't make a hardware/software impact (other than Gran Turismo). View

If Uncharted 2 cant even chart the Top 20 then I never want to see PS3 fans here giving bullet point list of 1st party exclusives when talking about sales. View

This will be the greatest game of all time. BELIEVE View

I just want to underscore a point regarding the NPD numbers. Ever since Gears of War launched a few years ago and gained massive sales numbers, and then Lost Planet, we have come to expect blockbuster sales in the first month of triple-A games. So when we see Modern Warfare 2 with 1.87million sold for the PlayStation 3, we forget to realise that the console has reportedly half of the install base of the 360 - despite being shocked by Modern Warfare 2 selling twice as much on that platform. So a comparison based solely on figures is less than honest. The ratio of sales to hardware is however fair and the game performed similar on both platforms. We should analyse figures in the same perspective for all multiplatform games.

Now to my next point. I've been reading references to GOW3 and GT5 in every sales article with the rest of Sony IP exclusives. Let's settle this - IP exclusives, especially on Sony's platform, haven't got a good record of producing a sales figure that matches the level of quality in development in these titles. For years now people still produce a bullet-point list of exclusives that in their eyes are sure to be the reason why consoles will be flying off the shelves. Yeah, well now we know better don't we. My point being, the same target demographic that would be interested in GOW3 and GT5 should already be interested in the PS3.

The console does just about "everything" and has a software library that arguably is better than any other platform and all that for just $299. So if the 360 can still rival PS3 sales, nevermind beat it, then what does it say about our expectation that GOW3 and those incoming Sony exclusives will drive hardware sales? Are the same hardcore group (GoW fans) willing to wait 4+ years and a $199 price point before getting the game? View

Microsoft have a policy where they do large bannings at once throughout periods in the year and that timing hasn't changed. Whether or not they intentionally planned to do bannings before the holidays to increase sales is irrelevant. The fact is

1. People shouldn't be modding their consoles in the first place. This is one of the areas where Sony has invested alot in and to this day the PS3 is still mod-free. Plenty of people here praise Sony for this and criticise Microsoft for not doing the same.

2. Regardless of all that, the 360 does not disappoint when it comes to software sales. If the console was mod-proof, who knows how much more these games would sell on the 360.

So I don't understand why this "banning" has all of a sudden become so important in sales when MS have been doing them ever since the start. Furthermore, why are these bannings a bad thing? It's like people here are complaining "no fair, they banned the pirates and got more sales". View

To be fair, everyone here talks a lot of BS View

Where is Uncharted 2?

Anyway, considering the ratio of userbase and software sold the two consoles did generally similar in regards to MW2. If the 360 outsells the PS3 again in December, well then people will have to re-evaluate where they expect to see the PS3 settle this generation.

I'm glad the 360 did well. It's a great games console. View

There are around 5million people on the Leaders on Xbox Live alone. There are bound to people a few idiots cheating. That is just the sad reality of games these days. View

You made me laugh out at 3am. Nice View

You mean December 08 right View

Metacritic just averages scores given out by reviewers. How can they be criticised? If a game is getting low scores, then it'll get a low average. Metacritic didn't give out that score but the reviewers did. View

You know with the amount of people here who say how many times they've picked up "another" PS3 due to a bundle, you'd have thought by now Sony would have 60million consoles out there View

True. PAL in general is heavily PlayStation in terms of gaming but then there's the argument that the UK market is the biggest in the entire PAL region. Generally speaking the 360 has always been the 'choice' here although I don't know how much the Slim has countered that if at all. But if you go to France or Germany for example, the 'choice' is PS3 View

I was thinking more along the lines of Gears 2, Halo 3 and Modern Warfare 2 View

For a premium service where it's main focus is Online gaming, Microsoft must invest in dedicated servers for (at least) their most anticipated games on the platform. It is a disgrace that a free service like PSN has more dedicated servers offered on some of it's games than Live. Microsoft are ahead but they shouldn't compare themselves against others but instead compete against at their reflection View

And Sony should start releasing firmware updates that do more than give you more Photo SlideShow options. How about some of the things they showed in their 2006 Press Conference for example..video conference in-game due to the "power of the Cell"?

But obviously as its free then we should be grateful for even a font update. Obviously. And it is that mentality which took them almost 2 years to give us in-game text messaging and you people still have the balls to attack and vilify Microsoft because we pay for Live? Are you not the same ones defending the price of the PS3 at launch. View

Don't you need a PS3 to get a PS3 game? Or can you get a PS3 + Modern Warfare 2 for $60? I'm confused. Or are we still making fanboyish comments in the Gamer Zone trying to undermine the opposing console using price comparisons? Why don't you guys go outside game stores with spreadsheets and printouts to help sell PlayStation 3's? I'm sure it would work more than posting comments on a website where everyone has their own console(s) and won't be swayed by comments View

Five Hundred & Ninety-Nine US Dollars

:laughs: View