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How a great site becomes Crap...
67 days 14 hours ago | by: Hagaf22
So I know some one is going to get upset with this, and if they do then FANTASTIC, that means it have served a purpose...

   I've been a member of this site for some time. And while I don't contribute 70 million stories (most of which are crap fanboy articles) to win the contributor of the month award, however I am vocal on some of the crap that's on this site. Some sumbitted stories are the same things written by different sources and contributed as new, but don't try to report them. This action has landed me a ban because supposedly I was reportting a RROD story which made me a Fanboy and I could not report stories for 7 days. WOW!! So lets see, any one who has read any post I have written would know that I try to stay fairly neutral, but I lean toward Sony. I am the kinda guy that roots for the underdog (Go Giants!), so how would I reporting a RROD story make me a MS Fanboy? I reported the story because it said the same crap that every other RROD story says.... instant week ban-- FANBOY. So fine, whatever, I did my week didn't complain about it, just approved... So then I saw this RIDICULOUS anti PS3 story which had already been approved so  I couldn't report it (this after my ban have you know). So I opened it, read it, and laughed at how stupid this piece was. So I came back to the N4G page and began to read the comments, knowing it was a flame bait article, but noticed that it was submitted by what I will call the "Biggest Fanboy of Them All" or from now on BFoTA. While some of you may not know who this character is, I'm gunna say that 90 percent of you do. BFoTA submits a fair amount of stories to N4G but if you ever take the time to look at them, the only ones that heat up are those which anger true gamers, the ones that pull fanboys out and start the biggest fueds since the Civil War. The rest of BFoTA's stories are mere junk. So as I saw he sumbitted this I looked through the comments, I came across one that stated that they noticed this is another story submitted by BFoTA against PS3. I put in a comment stating how I noticed this also and how its getting a little old that it continues. Well needless to say--- Ban- 2 days.... for agreeing to a comment, one I'm sure the other member got banned for also. Wow this sites retarded. So we get banned for seeing a completely untrue, anti-ps3 fanboy story come out and the story stays. So one day I was looking through a site, I believe GamesRadar, but don't hold me to it, and it had this stupid purely sarcastic article about gaming aimed at both PS3 and X360. So as I'm submitting it asks if its a dup, I look, and one story has a similar title, so I click it, and its some serious story about X360, not even close. So I click Not a Dupe. Well to my suprise BFoTA reports it as a dupe, without a link. It still gets approved, all is fine.   (kind of on the same topic, the top story right now on this site is an EXTREMELY ignorant fanboy article written by a member, not BFoTA, and submitted as news when it's merely an unresearchd blog article, stating no facts, but clearly antips3, still approved, no problem....)
  The following day I log on to get the scoop on the gaming industry that day and what happens when I find this awesome article about MGS4, I can't sumbit stories and I get this pop up saying review the rules regarding dupes. So I look at my stories and the one that BFoTA reported is gone, I find it and it says deleted. So I look around and see that the same story was submitted by him and was now at 400 degrees, after the time I had posted it. In the comments people said this, the story stayed and I was again banned 5 days no submissions.


 So this may sound like my whining about my bans but I assure you it's not. Any one on this site that knows who BFoTA is knows that he has a possy of followers that support him. They approve his dupes, he never gets banned for it because every day we see more of his crap and they support his stories by heating them up and start fanboy rants in them. The thing about being banned from certain actions is you look closer at those doing the same thing and not paying the prices. I watched one story get extremely fanboyish in the Gamers Zone and not one of the Pro-360 guys was banned, yet I didn't see the 2 Ps3 supporters names anywhere but the open zone for a few days. Also next time you see a360 fanboy look at their bubbles, they don't drop, they always go up. Then look at a ps3 fanboys, they drop, fast and hard. I used to have 9 now I have 7, my vote used to be 3 now its 1. As for BFoTA, 8 bubbles and last I checked 4 or 6 votes.

   What I have noticed is since I became a member 360 fans have ruled this site, they were the outlaws, they didnt have to follow the rules because the 360 was large and in charge, but over the past 6-8 months the 360 has lost steam, and its lost alot of its voice. The PS3 on the other hand has blown up, the fans have come out of the caves and expressed the love for the system. But this site and its Mod's silence them with bans. The mod's, I assume, don't own PS3... they have been members since the 360 had the firm grasp and they are devoted supporters, so they support BFoTA and his possie. Where as they hate on the Ps3 silently by silencing those who root for it.

  I have gone from loving this site to cringing at the crap that gets posted and the mere ignorance displayed by it's staff.  Many say Kotaku is anti-ps3, but atleast they will vocally do it, N4G is a site run by cowards who hate the Sony name and the rising success of a truly next gen system. This site is awesome for its purpose- gathering alot of news from multiple sources and posting them in one place, but it's worse than the economic state when it comes to being a fair, honest moderated site for all gaming news.

   I think there should be some huge changes to this site, for starters BFoTA should be held massively responsible for his overly showing fanboyish in stories. Fanboys on both sides should be treated equally, ban a ps3 fanboy in the open zone, the 360 fanboy should go down with him. Also, I know you are rewarding those who contribute alot, so that the site is always full with new stuff, but get rid of some of the crap seriously.


  So as for any one reading this, thanks, I know it won't last long and I'm sure I'll recieve another ban for it, but maybe, just maybe some one will get the message that there is some issues around and they will start to fix them. As for the fanboys on either side, Please stop, Just enjoy gaming, you are in the BEST generation of gaming. Enjoy it. So like I said, I'm sure this won't be up long and I'm sure I'll be banned, but I hope it opened the eyes of just one person who counts.

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meepmoopmeep - 67 days 17 hours ago
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next time, keep the info with supporting links and copy paste reports and then speak to a moderator via PM about an issue that you have. if you find that you are being scrutinized and another member is not for the same actions you will need supportive evidence to showcase for your case.

be aware of the rules of the Gamer Zone and don't break them and you shouldn't be banned. As for contributions, like i said, keep supportive evidence and present your case to a moderator via PM.

there's a section on the N4G Forums where you can voice your concerns about the Contributions area of the site. There are moderators reading those threads all the time.
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Isaac - 67 days 13 hours ago
2 - I agree with you
This site has gone to hell. Even the mods and admins are fanboys.
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Condoleezza Rice - 67 days 12 hours ago
3 - Tsk tsk tsk
Just a few hours after this went up,strange things have been happening to User Accounts,I believe a User/Mod has been going Ps3 gamer hungry(Lost 4 bubbles in less than 10 minutes)!

Anyways,this shall be my Swan Song.I'll see you guys sometime in the future,I have a new target and objective that will require a lot of my effort and time,wish me luck!

-Rice,Out.
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Isaac - 67 days 11 hours ago
4 - Actually it is pretty funny
Xbox fanboys scream how this site is run by PS3 fans. I think it is more that the site is run by Xbox fanboys like BIoodmask, but there are more PS3 fans in here anyway. For a reason there are so many deluded Xbox rabid radicals in here in the first place, and that is that Mart and Bloodmask invite their little spawns here instead of getting true gamers and non-fanboys.
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Jack Meahoffer - 67 days 6 hours ago
4.1 - See Isaac comments like this make you look like a totally bias Sony brand worshiper
There is zero balance in that comment. There are extreme fanboys on both sides. PS3 fanboys are not innocent in this. Neither side is innocent.

Everyone has bias. I'll admit I do too but I try really hard to post balanced comments and I STILL get attacked. Its very frustrating. Everyone needs to try harder to be fair instead of just backing their "team". Posting comments like you did imply that its all 360 fans fault and that can't be further from the truth. EXTREME FANBOYS ON ALL SIDES ARE TO BLAME.
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Isaac - 67 days 6 hours ago
4.2 - Well, of course it is both sides
However, I do blame bloodmask and the Mart for a lot of it. I can not blame anyone for the existence of PS3 fanboys here, after all not only did Sony won the last two generations, but this site used to be called PS3 Today. Why was the Mart here anyway? He now uses this site to promote his fanboy website Xbox Queens. I remember how Bloodmask started posting FUD when he barely became a new member, now he is one of the sites best contributors but he also contributes a lot of flamebait, and his Bio speaks for himself "I have great disdain for Sony fanboys". Yeah, I guess that pretty much said "I love Xbox fanboys, my brethren".

What I am saying is, there are fanboys everywhere, but nobody on this site can be blamed for being host to a lot of Sony fanboys since it was PS3 Today. On the other hand I do put blame on others for unnecessarily increasing the number of Xbox supporters. The Mart should have never laid a symbol on this website as it goes against his agenda (or at least it used to)
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Gerard Way - 67 days 5 hours ago
4.3 - You know Isaac...
Theres alot of murderers out there, but that doesnt give you an excuse to start your own killing spree.

Theres alot of child predators out there, but that doesnt give you an excuse to drive a white panel van past a pre-school all day.

My point is, This place has ALOT of fanboys. Personally I think the majority of them are Sony Fannies. Hell, I would bet the ratio is 5:1.
But just because they wanna act like jacka$$es, doesnt mean you have to.

You'd like to think that with users like bloodmask and mart running the show and being top contributors, that every would be 360 related. Well, have you check the major headlines in the past 2-3weeks?

I see your out of bubbles, so I will definetly vote for you with a positive feedback bubble. But feel free to send me a private message.
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Isaac - 66 days 19 hours ago
4.4 -
I am not justifying my behavior, I am just saying that this was once a source for PS3 news, and then it suddenly got infested with Xbox fanboys. I mean I understand gamers coming here since it is a great site, but I was here since... well, since it was PS3 Today. I saw Mart ever since then and I could not understand why a fanboy like him would be here, but I did not comment much, only anonymously (back when there were no accounts).

Then it became news 4 gamers, and after than n4g. Then came bloodmask, he was a new user but he started his sh1tcannon of FUD, I remember seeing his posts elsewhere on other sites by other Xbox fanboys, basically political and viral anti-sony warfare, a lot of unfounded spec talk from people that barely know what a computer is (can you believe?).

I know I can be a fanboy sometimes (you tell me who you hang around with and I will tell you who you are), but as I said, I only complain about how even users that are supposed to be leaders like BIoodmask since he has become a relatively good contributor to the site are also fanboys, just look at his Bio and his comment history, regardless of the news he posts, and what bothers me is how he denies it or how he completely avoids answering the question "Are you an Xbox fanboy?". And I complain even more since this used to be a space for PS3 fans, mostly. Well, I do not complain much really, I simply stated what I perceive as of late now that I got chance.

Anyway, Game on.
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Telmarine - 67 days 9 hours ago
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You know what bothers me?

This is NEWS for gamers not ARTICLES for gamers.
I come here to read up on news not listen to "Has ____ lost ____?" or "Did ____ live up to its hype?".
I especially hate "Top 10 reasons why" "Top 10 hottest gaming chicks" "Top 5 best games".

I want to know whats going on in the gaming world, not that Lara Craft is the hottest chick.
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Gerard Way - 67 days 5 hours ago
5.1 - Sing It, Brother!
You know, I have been looking for a way to say this, and you my friend, have nailed it. Im proud to be one the many "agrees" you'll get from this comment. And the disagrees, well, they know where to shove it.
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tojfs7931 - 67 days 9 hours ago
6 - Most of the so called "news"
Articles aren't even NEWS- they are someones opinion in a blog posting.
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Jack Meahoffer - 67 days 7 hours ago
7 - While I agree that this site is going to hell in a handbasket I don't think its bias to either side
I think there are a lot of fanboys on either side that feel very strongly that the site is against them and their "team". In my opinion all of this can be boiled down to inconsistent moderation. It appears to me that the mods either disappear and allow rules to be broken or they come out like gang busters and bash the heads of anyone on any side that gets in their way.

Like Meep said if you don't break the gamer zone rules you shouldn't be banned. If you have evidence to the contrary you should keep it and include it in your blog.

I'd like to see some of the rules get automated. If you say one of the banned keywords and hit the add comment button you should automatically get a week ban. Coming down like a ton of bricks is the only way to stop fanboys. Take away their toy and they'll change their behavior.

As for submissions get approved. I have to agree 100% with comment #5 Telmarine. There is way too much garbage flamebait approved going after both sides. This garbage should deleted no matter which side it offends because it is spam.

I hope this site improves. It could be a really great site with some better rule enforcement.
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SuperMario290 - 66 days 23 hours ago
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Hmmmm.....well I used to be pretty active on the site, but really I just don't like all the fanboys and sh*t like that. It really pisses me off that we have to read sh*t like lists about all this crap, and we don't actually get the news. But whatever, I'm only on the site once in a couple of days so wtf do I care? Anyhow, i hope you don't get banned, and if you do, they can ban me too. ;)
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xTHRASHx - 66 days 19 hours ago
9 - wow
most are hatn on this but i think this was great. many of your concerns are mine. thnaks for this blog.
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xTHRASHx - 66 days 19 hours ago
10 - 1 more thing
might i add. i am tired of seeing news on the 2.40 ps3 update... i thin kive seen upward of 20 articles on it. damn u ps3 fanboys!
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ControlMagazine - 65 days 20 hours ago
11 - [insert crap game title]
Have to agree big time. The two most popular stories getting approved on N4G are:
10 reasons why [insert game with an average score of over 9.6] sucks!
and
10 reasons why [insert game with an average score less than 5.5] rocks!

80% is opinion, and not even from devs or publishers - mere people with a weblog. Why would that be interesting?!

This site is called NEWS for gamers, remember?
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