Neocrisis: IGN changed the Fallout 3 Review *PS3*

ultimolu - 393 days 17 hours ago

socomnick...inferior?
Excuse me?
I love how 360 owners get so excited over multiplatform games when most of them have been working pretty well on the PS3.

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fufotrufo - 393 days 17 hours ago

well..a lower score..and more bugs are enough to make it inferior right?

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Bill - 393 days 17 hours ago

IGN is very fair and they were fair to change what was an honest mistake. The Playstation 3 delivers on all fronts and is the only true next gen experience with its stability, free online service, standard HDD, etc. the list goes on.

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DavidMacDougall - 393 days 17 hours ago

But on topic i like IGN there prity fair

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joemayo76 - 393 days 17 hours ago

I smell some B.S on IGN's part especially since their site is now littered with Fallout 3 ads on the main page :\

could it be that it was requested to be removed due to potentially damaging sales on one platform for the game they ARE promoting on their main page

check for yourself:

IGN.com

COULD IT BE GAMESPOT ALL OVER AGAIN :S

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barom - 393 days 16 hours ago

It's quite possible the first review was done with an unfinished version of the game, then they got the finished product and it was all good. Anyway, I'm sure IGN will release a statement pretty soon.

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Tacki - 393 days 15 hours ago

The PS3 version of Fallout 3 is 'technically' inferior... but people try to make a much bigger deal out of it than it really is. It's like a person being a quarter of an inch taller than you and them calling you 'short'. You are shorter... but it's such a marginal difference that few are going to notice unless you're back to back. I find it a bit silly to even brag about such a thing.

Granted, that PSN bug is something that could be troublesome and needs to get worked out. And there's apparently some 'muddier' looking textures on the PS3 version... but regardless of the console (or PC) you buy it for... you're likely to get a great experience and it will essentially be the same. Unless of course a few better looking patches of dirt really turn you on. But just as with many mutliplatform games... some people try to get you thinking you're missing out on something if you don't have their preferred console. If you have an Xbox 360, get it for that. If you have a PS3, get it for that. A PC? Get it for that. Two of those or more? Well, you've got options and it's up to you what to go for.

I personally got it for my PS3 despite having a 360. I know there's some out there now, "But Tacki, WHY?! How could you opt for the INFERIOR version!" Well, I went with the one I FELT like getting. I wouldn't bother with any downloadable content and I don't care for achievements (or even trophies that much). I wanted to play it on my PS3. And being that I have more games for my PS3 I think the case fits in better with my collection when it's displayed. However, I did get Dead Space for my 360 because I wanted the Ultra Limited Edition. Y'see... that's the beauty of choice. We can all choose and nobody's 'wrong' for choosing one edition over another.

I know the fanboys will never stop... as a gamer it's sad to see the focus really being taken off the game. Instead of talking about what a great experience we're having or could have... we get this childish 'my console can beat up your console' behavior. It's almost disheartening. I thought gamers play games... not analyze pixels.

I just don't understand why some people are concerned about what others are getting from their gaming experience. I've said it many times... whether another person has it worse or better... it won't change YOUR experience in the least. If it somehow can then we should all be worried about whether or not we have the BEST tv out there and the BEST surround sound system. Why it would be so bad for some to accept that we're all going to get what is potentially a very good game is beyond my comprehension.

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TheExecutive - 393 days 15 hours ago

that depends on whether it really effects the experience. If it does then yes, if it is just a bunch of picky no-life

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Alvadr - 393 days 11 hours ago

The bug must have been in there review build only and not in the retail version. Bethesa probebly advised them of this and they took it out, honest mistake!

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watchem - 393 days 9 hours ago

I have never seen the word "inferior" being used so much =_=
Anyway I'm getting Fallout 3 for my PS3 : D

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jtucker78 - 393 days 8 hours ago

Everyone listen to Tacki.

He speaks the truth!

Bubbles mate.

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ultimolu - 393 days 8 hours ago

sumguy.

How about telling 360 owners to grow up? Look how they're abusing the disagree system just because they can't provide a legitimate argument to back it up.

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cwir - 393 days 8 hours ago

"i never took a side with any system here"

Yeah, right :D

"nobody with any shred of dignity would ever stand up for a corporation when they only think of you as a demographic and a dollar sign. and nobody with any intelligence would constantly seek out reasons for them not to be upset about investing money in a company or system that has time and time again let them down."

Now I'm confused. I thought you were bashing Sony :)

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Milo Garret - 393 days 7 hours ago

Clearly, he is.

I recently said IGN was my only trusted review site, but it's quickly going downhill it appears, even though Tacki is probably right and the issues were pretty small... IGN apparently believed them to be significant enough to be mentioned in the review at first, then, probably due to pressure from X person/company/whatever, they changed it, WRONG thing to do.

Oh and before you all start defending the change of the review, remember what you were all saying a week ago with Fable II's reviews, huh?

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Sigmund Droid - 393 days 7 hours ago

Well your point was very well researched and well written, your analogy fails to do justice of the 'technical' inferiority. Fallout 3 freezes for a second or two when anything that has to do with PSN pops up, and it also gets blurry at some points. It's not a quarter of an inch difference, it's more of a 1" or 1 1/2" difference, freezing is not a minuscule difference, neither is blurriness.

I agree with everything else in your comment though.

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cwir - 393 days 7 hours ago

"Clearly, he is."

That was a joke. I know he was. But the sentence I quoted sounded more like it was about MS :)

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Milo Garret - 393 days 6 hours ago

I know man... I was trying (and apparently failing miserably) to be funny. Lol.

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Sigmund Droid - 392 days 21 hours ago

sumguy is absolutely correct here, you have to be trying insanely hard not to read most comments or you're a fanboy here if you don't see comments to almost fascist proportions here on N4G. It's ridiculous, the Sony side is more like East Germany and Microsoft is West Germany, there are no neutrals.

It's proven that Sony outweighs MS fans here about 3:1, no one can argue. I mean honestly, there's Mart, pp, PoG and that's about it. On the flipside though, I saw a list of fanboys on this site on some Sony Rangers guy's biography or whatever, the list was pretty big.

Also, excuses and spins are here are insane, on both sides.

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Danja - 393 days 15 hours ago

The review needed to be changed because the few minor probs they mentioned shouldn't have taken ne points off the game since in the end it doesn't affect gameplay or take away from the experience you would get playing it on other systems...

Why aren't the many bugs that are in Fable 2 being written about in the reviews nor do they affect the score of the game...doesn't make sense

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Masta_fro - 393 days 14 hours ago

sometimes i wish i was really really small so i could see all the tiny differences in console versions that fan boys love whining about.

You know what...ive solved it!!!

Instead of making tv s bigger, we should start making ourselves SMALLER!!!!! OMFG!

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shawnsl65 - 393 days 10 hours ago

TOOOO funny. if everyone were smaller. the FOOD crisis of the world would be solved! housing would ROCK. 1 house fits 100 people #_#. Only down fall to this would be traveling. How many months would it take to fly across the world ;D

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thisguywithhair - 393 days 9 hours ago

There is only one problem with that statement (not to get technical or be a killjoy lol) but it known that the smaller you are the more energy you need to heat your body. That is why smaller mamals like rodents are always hungry and moving around alot. They need the extra energy and movement to keep their bodies at a certain temp. Same reason why larger mamals need only a little bit a food per sitting. Their own body weight allows the body to heat itself with only a little enery output.

Sorry to get all technical and off topic but it is little things like this that bother me lol.

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shawnsl65 - 393 days 8 hours ago

damn u! although that is very interesting. i'm gonna google it thanks for the info :P

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thisguywithhair - 393 days 8 hours ago

PM me if I am wrong.

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Ju - 393 days 15 hours ago

That "bluryness" seams to me to be an effect when the game goes in pause mode - but returns immediately (so to fast to really go into pause). The bug, that is, is it goes in pause mode when you get a friend status update message. No game goes in pause mode when you get messages like that. That's a bug in the game, wonder why they missed that. But this has nothing to do with a general game bug or bluryness or what not. Just a wrong system event handling in the game, me thinks.

But I haven't seen any report where PS3 gamers complain that the (released) game is broken beyond believe. Can someone point me to these complaints? Its just so strange IMO that PS3 "issues" are always blown out of proportion. Hey, I even played the Orange Box and before that I though that game is unplayable. Far off. It plays just fine. And that was the worst example AFAIR.

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omodis420 - 393 days 1 hour ago

You sound like a Robotic politician.

Sony is infallible...Bill Gates Must Die....Boop boop beep beep.

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read disc error - 393 days 16 hours ago

They should rate the game out of the box because not everyone has internet.

IGN is a joke. how much you want to bet that the 95 they gave Resistance 2 will be one of the highest scores that R2 gets?

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Masta_fro - 393 days 14 hours ago

i disagree... I believe resistance 2 deserves the score it got. Judging by the beta, the amount of time this game will take from you is astonishing. The game feels solid in every way and expands on every multiplayer idea ever conceived.

You think IGN is a joke because it gives ps3 an equal score? My friend, you are so misinformed.

Everybody, and i mean everyone whos been following the console wars, will tell you that ign has a history of scoring the ps3 version of games lower because of tiny differences between the ps3 and 360 version.

But when the ps3 version is clearly better..ign cleverly finds a way to spin it; For example... we all lknow this one...

"The 360 version has a different 'visual style' than the ps3 version"...IGN

or better yet

"The ps3 version has better framerates and overall looks better, but the 360 version loads faster, so its a tie" ...yea ok IGN

And my personal favorite:
"The 360 version has framerate issues which are nonexistent in the ps3 version, but it has achievements!!!...so its a tie"

And one more thing...your logic is spot on...ign shouldnt review games considering a patch will probably make it better once it comes out...and guess what? They dont...

Recently Bioshock came out and 2K released a patch wich made the game look in all aspects better than the 360 version...but ign did not change their review because it was released after the game launched...

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read disc error - 393 days 13 hours ago

Are those direct quotes? If so then give them hyperlnks or citations.
IGN is almost always saying the PS3 version of a multiplat is better despite a general consensus from critics that the 360 version runs and/or looks better. For example, IGN said GTA 4 ran better on the PS3 than the 360 when everyone else was saying the exact opposite and that the 360 version looked and ran better or they both were about equal:

http://www.videogamer.com/f...

http://kotaku.com/384422/wh...

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

These are just a couple links from a quick google search. Now, they review Fallout 3 and say the 360 version runs and looks better like everyone else is saying and suddenly POOF! in a day the paragraph is deleted from their review. You don't find that suspicious? IGN is corrupt like Gamespot (who were actually caught). Even PSM3 (an official PS3 magazine) said the 360 version of Fallout 3 looks better: http://www.xbox360fanboy.co...

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Kassanova07 - 393 days 11 hours ago

I bet your game library

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Masta_fro - 393 days 5 hours ago

you know, recently, ign has been giving out decent scores for ps3 versions of games. But if i remember correctly, a year ago...this was not the case...most of those are quotes, i just cant remember which games they are from...

Im pritty sure the first is from the gta4 review and another one is from The darkness review...

But yea...it is strange that the place is littered with fallout 3 ads and then they change the review.

Dont get me wrong...I do believe game review sites like ign can be influenced by THE GREENS, but this generally happens on multiplat games, and we all know what microsoft does.

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BulletToothtony - 393 days 17 hours ago

that's what everyone who hasn't played on the psn say...

I play cod4 on the psn and talk to everyone.. you pay cod4 on live and talk to everyone.. difference??? you pay and i don't.. so please stop with the live thing..

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Bathyj - 393 days 17 hours ago

Whatever. Mark every XB down because my thumbs aren't offset like the XB controller, they're symetrical.

Mark every live game down, for having to pay extra for a game you already own.

Mark them down further for the cost of batteries on said controllers.

Do I sound as pathetic as you yet, cos I've got more.

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GiantEnemyCrab - 393 days 17 hours ago

@6.3:

" play cod4 on the psn and talk to everyone.. you pay cod4 on live and talk to everyone.. difference??? you pay and i don't.. so please stop with the live thing.."

I'm playing WipeoutHD and you are playing Cod4 on PSN can you talk to me? That is one of many differences. I pay for more features. When PSN matches all the functions of Live it will stop.

Juuken: Did you not read what I posted? Are you telling me cross game chatting is working on PSN now? No, it's not. so what are you on about with "PSN is matching Live". Have you even been on Live considering you don't own a 360 because I've been on both a lot.

@6.8: Ah, I see.. it's the just you wait.. How about voicemail? You got that on PSN? How about a complete and throughout reporting system that just isn't in game and left to the devs but across the whole system? How about a system wide matchmaking system that matches players of similar skill levels? How about a Recommend a Game to a friend feature? I can go on if you like..

EDIT: Yes, disagree a way. pft big surprise.

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ultimolu - 393 days 17 hours ago

Crab, what the hell are you on about?

PSN *HAS* been matching Live in terms of quality. This isn't 2007 anymore. Good grief, wake up and smell the coffee beans!

And instead of smacking disagree buttons, please tell me if there's something else PSN doesn't have that XBL has. As far as I can tell, PSN doesn't have in-game music yet but who cares.

It'll come eventually.

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FBl - 393 days 17 hours ago

Do you need a Tissue

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Yoma - 393 days 17 hours ago

no they are not doing what microsoft are

M$ told them to change the review of the ps3, and when they did, ms didn't send them the moneys. So ms scammed ign therefore they changed back to what it should have been

scammed scammed scammed

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ultimolu - 393 days 17 hours ago

No, but he does need a foot up the ass.

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Sigmund Droid - 393 days 16 hours ago

Ultimolu, or shall I say Juuken, it seems that you are quite hostile towards jack who. Jack who's comment isn't even offensive nor fanboyish to even warrant a 'foot up the ass', though it seems that you are quite angry. It also seems that you are having some sort of an identity crisis suggesting that you are maybe ashamed or trying to hide something. Everyone is here to help, no one is going to judge or make fun of you anymore.

Are you being troubled from work, home or school life?
Do you find it hard to express yourself?

Please tell me, I think I can help.

How do you feel?

I see you are disagreeing with my ultimolu, you don't want my help?

I'm sorry I even asked then.

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ultimolu - 393 days 16 hours ago

Sigmund Droid...I love how you literally insult a brilliant man like Sigmund Freud by putting Droid at the end. It seems to me that you have the identity crisis my friend because you are a 360 owner who either holds a grudge against me, or lost so many arguments that they felt the need to create a name to attack the PS3 once more.

I'm perfectly fine dear. My comment stems from the annoyance of 360 owners attacking every single thing PS3 related because they're running out of things to bash it on.

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Sigmund Droid - 393 days 16 hours ago

I see... Now, when 360 owners bash on PS3 owners, how does that make you feel? Angry? Depressed? Confused?

Well, don't answer that, you already said annoyed. Now, ignoring the fact that most people on this site are fanboys, you should already accept that fact that there will be no stopping of fanboyism on both sides, so releasing your anger is unnecessary without results. I recommend taking deep long breathes, and simply ignoring the stupidity of posts.

This is not a large conflict nor is it a war, it is simply a small ripple in the water, don't make it a splash is my advice, dear.

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ultimolu - 393 days 15 hours ago

Are you trying to analyze me?

Seeing ignorant 360 owners attack Sony and the PS3 not only pisses me off, but confuses me as well. I still do not understand this hatred at all.

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Sigmund Droid - 393 days 15 hours ago

Indeed... Now I can't help to the fact that you might take this a little too personal, now don't take this the wrong way... I simply want to help. Hatred is human nature, human beings are almost instinctively born to judge, don't take anything seriously or personal. It seems also that you have double standards to hypocrisy, perhaps that is a clue why you take things such as this personally?

Ignore, and move on. Happiness and bliss will follow. See no hate, feel no hate. If my name bothers you, I'll change it to a little less angering, I'll start anew like yourself, only if you heed my advice my dear, it's only for the best for both of us.

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karlostomy - 393 days 5 hours ago

however the 'Juuken' case above is a tough nut.

She has a 'ps3oedipus complex' manifesting in complete '360 envy'.
It seems to stem from early life disillusionment. Possibly her Uncle had promised to buy her a 360, yet didn't. The disappointment has manifested in severe neurosis. Occasionaly this spills over into unadulterated psychosis - much to the detriment of the n4g community.

You might like to explore about her traumatic experience of getting banned from another website for hysterical outbursts.
I believe she has not recovered and may need medication for Post traumatic stress disorder.

She seems forever stuck at the phallic stage of development, as can be observed by her almost deifying admiration of her favourite, black, glistening ... ps3. It appears her procreative instincts have been frustrated and she is forced to accept an electric substitute.

What's most worrying, however, is her renewed Multiple personality disorder. She seems so unable to cope with her personal experience that she is forced to invent alternate personalities when things do not go as planned.
The most recent of which, is 'ultimolu' above.

Most unhealthy, in anyone's language!

I wish you the best of luck in treating her, Dr. Droid.

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Sigmund Droid - 392 days 20 hours ago

Ah, the PS3Oedipus Complex, I haven't seen such a severe case of it... I thought it was a whole new syndrome because it to such an extreme level. Interesting...

Now, Juuken, have you ever been questioning the existence of God?
Have you ever believed in God? If you believe in God, is he in your eyes a PS3?
Have you ever thought of having a relationship/child?

Please tell me, I may be able to salvage some of the real you. I know it's not you on the outside, the blinded fanboy.

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jack who - 393 days 17 hours ago

bu bu bu bu teh bugs? and the flipfloping

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BLuKhaos - 393 days 16 hours ago

the only thing I see flip flopping is the 360's 2008 library.

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FAQS - 393 days 9 hours ago

at jackwho:
IGN REVIEW:"Fallout 3 is such an engaging and fantastic experience that it's easy to overlook its few minor flaws, but they do exist and should be mentioned. With any game of this size and scope, you can likely expect a few bugs to slip through the testing process and that is the case here. I had the game crash a couple times, amongst other small bugs. In all of these cases, reloading the game has been enough to fix the errors and nothing was frustrating or detrimental enough to make me not recommend the game." - this statement was in both PS3 and Xbox360 review yesterday and today, I read both of them! It was clear yesterday that not only the PS3 version has this bugs, the xbox360 has them too! the only issue that was clear yesterday in the PS3 review was the freeze that happened when some friend of yours try to contact you via PSN!

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shawnsl65 - 393 days 10 hours ago

may as well download it for the xbox360 if you're just going to TEST it.

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Hiruma Youchi - 393 days 14 hours ago

yeah , nobody can deny that. unless your a fanboy

the'll keep on making excuses YA-HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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vega75 - 393 days 4 hours ago

my guess. scared that the ps3 fanboys will petition their site. and flood the e-mails with hate threads about how they will shut IGN down. you don't mess with the SPF(sonyfanboy petition force)

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achira - 393 days 10 hours ago

from where are the numbers, from micrsoft? lol. you are dumb. the ps3 sold more worldwide, and everyone knows this. but what can i say, you are brain dead.

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badkolo - 393 days 5 hours ago

you mean the 360 version is better like every other multiplat game, keep waiting for the Potentials. you fools are funny.

thats 2 games so fat, far cry and fallout that are better on the 360, yes on the cheaper less powerful console, its sad really that you keep waiting for the ps3 version to be better, time and time again the 360 wins hands down. it must realy hurt you kiddies.

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Jason 360 - 392 days 23 hours ago

Thats because it's true, it hurts sometimes.

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