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GoozerNation: To DLC or not to DLC?

While First Strike for Call of Duty: Black Ops is released today, Mike D from GoozerNation looks at the broad scope of DLC. What makes good DLC? Is some DLC just a waste of time? What could DLC have been?

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betrayed gamer4825d ago

how about you make your own choice? i mean most of us are adults right?

jim2wheels4825d ago

Well it could of been a way extract feedback from fans of said game and make it even better. This would in turn increase revenues and swell loyal fanbase numbers, who would end up buying anything from said studio because quality counts right?

Instead we get "DLC" that was already on the disc and is promoted before the game is even launched.

I have never bought any DLC, and I never will.

Darkfiber4825d ago (Edited 4825d ago )

I have explained this to people 100 times but they never listen, so I'll explain it again I guess. DLC on the disc DOES NOT MEAN it was completed prior to the game's completion. ALL games must undergo a process of rating and certification, which takes an average of about 1-2 months. During this time, developers either start on a new project, or create DLC. Usually if it's a small piece of DLC, it can be completed within those 1-2 months that the game is being untouched while it undergoes certification. They then add it on the disc, AS A SEPARATE FILE that is NOT incorporated into the final game and is considered DLC. If they got the game certified then added the DLC into the actual game, it would then have to be re-certified and the game would be delayed another 1-2 months.

The ONLY difference between day one DLC that you download, and DLC already on the disc is the fact that you actually have to download it, making you use internet bandwidth and waste time. If anything, putting DLC on the disc is saving you time and internet bandwidth. They are actually doing you a favour.

djcitizend4825d ago

I think the problem is, is that people saw or heard what Capcom did with Resident Evil 5 multiplayer, and now assume all DLC is on the disc.

jim2wheels4825d ago

Very well explained Darkfibre, and I admit it certainly explains things to a certain extent. But I still can't shake that feeling that it's still a rip-off. Why call it DLC? Why not additional content? It's misleading.

But I will spread your wise words when required :)

Darkfiber4825d ago

I do agree with you Jim, it is stupid and makes the game look really bad since it is often very misunderstood. I really am not a fan of DLC in general and VERY rarely buy any unless I think it's actually worth the money (which is almost never is). Just saying, there is a reason it's done that way.

Darkfiber4825d ago

"Activision has already done such a good job with the story behind Call of Duty: Black Ops" that made me lul.

Also, the addition of DLC map packs to a multiplayer shooter usually marks the point where I stop playing it. I'm not big on shooters in the first place, particularly the multiplayer aspect, so I'll usually quit before that point anyway, but on the off chance that I still actually play the game a few months after release when map packs come out, I am usually done by then. In this case, I would never buy a stupid CoD game in the first place, so no, I would definitely not buy the DLC.

sprayNpray4825d ago

I'll save my money for killzone 3, a game that was heavily beta tested by me and many others. Black Ops was the buggiest online experience I've ever had the unfortunate opportunity to be apart of. One could argue that it's really been the most expensive beta anyone on the ps3 has been apart of because the party system on the PS3 is still that broken.

Also I believe that true DLC should be more than just map packs, maps that should have been included with the original game anyway. Map pack DLC should be free to all who purchased the full game, if you want to charge those who bought it used then go for it, but I already paid $60 and I don't feel like I should have to pay more for so little extra content.

And last but not least this delayed release bull**** has got to stop. Why release it earlier for the 360? Did Micro$oft pay extra to get this? Are there that many people out there with both 360s and PS3s that this seems necessary to get those people to choose the 360 version of the game? Although, I guess they've already shown that the really don't care about ps3/pc owners anyway by how poorly the online experience has been for both so why not just keep the middle finger up at us a little longer?

djcitizend4825d ago

If memory serves me correctly, I believe Activision did work out a deal with Microsoft to get first crack on all COD DLC from here on out.

jim2wheels4825d ago

Agreed sprayNpray - on the first two paragraphs anyway.

Maps, skins and the like should be free. If you pay x amount for a multiplayer game like COD and then find out you have to buy a map pack otherwise you can't play with your mates/online friends - frankly you're being ripped off. I will happily pay for DLC when it's VFM - BC Vietnam is a good example of when DLC works well.

sprayNpray4825d ago

Ya, sorry about that last paragraph... still a little bitter about black ops

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Gamer buys 4,000 copies of Alan Wake, none of them work

Alan Wake, from Max Payne and Control creator Remedy, is a horror classic, prompting one player to buy 4,000 copies that don’t even work.

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roadkillers3d ago

Kind of a goody story...

On a serious note, that is why I try activating gift cards asap. It's happened to me where the store didnt scan it right where the card was unusuable. Happened at Wally World.

gigoran83d ago

wait, that place is real? national lampoon wasn't kidding?

Tacoboto2d ago

I just bought two of the MonsterVerse Godzilla movies on 4K - both had digital copies expiring in 2023. Both were actually expired.

I'd be surprised but it's WB, of course they'd actually expire them

Knightofelemia3d ago

Usually most of those redemption card have an expiry date on them. If they expired all buyer did was buy recycled paper. And some of those codes are country locked to certain countries. I buy a card from the States I can't use it in Canada.

Chocoburger2d ago

Dumb and silly story. She wasted her money for no reason.

Is it really that hard to go to Steam or GOG. She spent $240, when its currently 70% off on GOG, and only costs $4.49.

Gee, I wonder, should I spend $240 on eBay, or $4.49 on GOG? 🙄

Rynxie2d ago

Most likely she wanted to resell a few or most of them. However, it was a too good to be true situation.

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Profchaos2d ago

So in short she paid $240.00 assuming usd for a bunch on unactivated game codes.

I still don't understand why I guess cause there's not a physical version and she wanted something for a collection or art project.

Rynxie2d ago

No, most likely to resell. However, she ended up getting screwed.

Asplundh2d ago

This is Alan Wake 1, it had physical copies.

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15 PS3 Games That Would Absolutely Shine as PS5 Remakes

GB: "With this feature, we talk about 15 games on the PS3 that should be remade for the PlayStation 5."

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kenpachi8d ago

You left out The Darkness games bring those back

fan_of_gaming7d ago

The head of Nightdive Studios has posted that The Darkness is on their list of games they want to do, so hopefully something comes from that

Yi-Long7d ago

Little Big Planet 1 and 2 deserve a mention, IMO.

Good call on Motorstorm, a game released 2 gens ago but still looks and feels so good. Motorstorm 2 and Motorstorm RC were gems as well. They followed up the Motorstorm games with the brilliant Driveclub, which still manages to put modern racing games to shame. Imagine closing down a studio as talented as that ... (!) Incredible.

A little 'arcade-gem' back then was The Last Guy, a top down 'follow the leader' snake-like game where you had to find and lead survivors to safety during an alien invasion, on terrible looking 'Google-earth' maps. Graphics were poor, even back then, but would love that same gameplay with modern maps and graphics.

Street Fighter 4, once it finally had a full roster, was quite good, but it was always an ugly game, sadly. Imagine bringing that back while using the current SF6 engine.

fan_of_gaming7d ago

Good suggestions, I'd be in for
LittleBigPlanet
LittleBigPlanet 2
Motorstorm: Pacific Rift
Motorstorm: RC

purple1017d ago

God damn I love motorstorm so much

At the time I had a low-mid range sony 40” tv, The latency to the controller was waaaay too high, would to play a modern version

In saying that later I got a 3d lg tv and playing the 3d motorstorm in my bedroom with the environment crumbling around the track, was something special, specially compared to what others were playing at the time, will always remember that

Skuletor7d ago

Some good choices here and Resistance: Fall of Man is my most wanted PS3 remaster/remake. Not sure about their claim it was Sony's answer to Gears of War though.

CrimsonWing697d ago

I’d rather have sequels than remakes. Look at Dead Space 1 Remake. Would’ve been cooler if we got a new entry and it failed with sales sealing the fate of a sequel rather than just replay the same game and it fail in sales and we never get a new entry.

Remakes are great for things like PS2 and earlier games to really get a crazy new graphical coat, but I think we should ease up on all these remakes and actually do sequels.

fan_of_gaming7d ago

Yeah for sure, sequels would be ideal. But in the current market environment where many big publishers are risk-averse, I'd rather get a remaster or remake that a developer can do on a budget that will be approved, rather than nothing for an IP.

Inverno7d ago

I rather they remaster and port over to PC and current gen all the games permanently stuck on PS360. Those games don't need remakes, they need to be given a chance to live again outside of their confined consoles and then give a few proper sequels. Like Sleeping Dogs, Motor Storm, LA Noir, should get another entry.

fan_of_gaming7d ago

Yeah I'd be fine with remasters of PS3 games too, they don't have to be remakes.

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The 7 Best Western RPGs: Immersive Adventures

RPGs are often huge, sprawling endeavours. With limited playtime, we have to choose wisely, so here's the best western RPGs available today.

SimpleSlave13d ago

"I started playing games yesterday" the List... Meh!

How about a few RPGs that deserve some love instead?
1 - Alpha Protocol - Now on GOG
2 - else Heart.Break()
3 - Shadowrun Trilogy
4 - Wasteland 2
5 - UnderRail
6 - Tyranny
7 - Torment: Tides of Numenera

And for a bonus game that flew under the radar:
8 - Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden

DustMan13d ago

Loved Alpha Protocol in all it's glorious jank. Great game.

SimpleSlave13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Not only glorious jank, but the idea that the story can completely change depending on what you do, or say, or side with, makes it one of the most forward thinking games ever. The amount of story permutation is the equivalent of a Hitman level but in Story Form. And it wasn't just that the story changed, no, it was that you met completely new characters, or missed them, depending on your choices. Made Mass Effect feel static in comparison.

Alpha Protocol was absolutely glorious, indeed. And it was, and still is, more Next Gen than most anything out there these days. In this regard at least.

Pity.