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Shuhei just reassured David Cage, has still faith in his next project despite mixed Beyond reviews

Beyond: Two Souls is out today, and its reviews are really mixed. Despite that, Yoshida confirmed on Twitter that he still has faith in Cage.

Xsilver3844d ago

i love his style of creating games its like a movie makes sense it will get mixed reviews like a movie i will be picking up Beyond two souls.

blitz06233844d ago (Edited 3844d ago )

What mixed reviews? I suppose you can call them mixed, and that's kind of what I expected from Cage's games, although when it comes to his types of games, scores don't tell the whole story

Xsilver3844d ago (Edited 3844d ago )

http://www.metacritic.com/g... the majority loved but some did'nt.

-Foxtrot3844d ago (Edited 3844d ago )

It's harsh how a game which is taking risks and trying something new gets mixed reviews yet the same old boring COD get near perfect scores every year.

I think David Cage should try being more open with his next game though. I would love to see what they could do with an open world type experience or maybe an RPG

I just find it weird that most criticize it for not being open but they gave Walking Dead by TT near perfect scores. It was the same with Heavy Rain, people criticized that but when WD came out the things they moaned at with HR were fine with WD

abzdine3844d ago

quanticdream dont make games you play but experiences you LIVE!
give me more of these please..

Bundi3844d ago

Experiences you live? Wow, so much corn and cheese.

BitbyDeath3844d ago

WTF is this?

Dionysus - Quantic Dream, get a zero from for not releasing it on PC, hope your exclusivity deal was worth it.

How is that allowed on Metacritic?

Man-E-Faces3844d ago

This Metacritic, judging/buying not buying a game based off of a number is just stupid. To see Madden and a remastered Ducktales game rated higher than a fresh new ip say's it all. Most of my fav games this gen have scored like crap. The video game sites need to rid themselves of the scoring stem and adopt a pro/con written review system, because that's all I want to know about a game that interest's me, not a number.

minimur123844d ago

Another quote from a metacritic review:

"
Graphically you would have expected more at this late stage of hardware optimisation."
REALLY???????
Beyond Two Souls gameplay screen (no spoilers)
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/mu...
Call of Duty Ghosts character model:

http://static4.businessinsi...

Agree = Beyond looks better
Disagree = Ghosts looks better

UltimateMaster3844d ago

The game play will differ from one person to another depending on what choice they make in the game.

AKS3844d ago

It's interesting that only 2 critic reviews are actually negative. About a third of user reviews are negative, which seems rather questionable, as user reviews on the interwebz tend to be.

Nontraditional games are going to tend to be more polarizing even if they are good. Reviews of some of the best movies from David Lynch tended to get follow a similar pattern. I've been pleased with all of Quantic Dream's games so far, so I do plan to pick this up eventually. The critics who liked it seemed to REALLY like it, which suggests to me it's worth giving a shot.

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showtimefolks3844d ago

Gamespot 9
Game informer 7.8
Ign 6

Damn who to believe, I always look at gamespot as the most strict since hey nitpick the most

I would love to know how many of these B2S reviewers reviews heavy rain, because the same person should have done it. Ign complains about controls yet the controls are almost the same as heavy rain with few improvements

Anyway I am getting it to see for myself.

Also thank you Sony for showing confidence in David cage, I still believe this game will sell 2 plus million

Baka-akaB3844d ago

I just believe none . I wondered about the gameplay , the demo and feeds answered on those topics .

Characters movement controls are actually better than with heavy rain , and no longer a sluggish pain fest , wich is most of what i wanted changed .

Xsilver3844d ago

i love walking dead i love heavy rain and i love the style of those games we need something different when it comes to games who wants to play the same thing over and over again i don't thats why im buying Beyond two souls which i'm pretty sure i will love.

-Foxtrot3844d ago

IGN: 6

Whaaaaa

"By Lucy O'Brien"

Oh....that explains it then

Lykon3844d ago

It seems that people decided to love this game before hand and they are damn well not going to change their opinion. I felt the same about heavy rain... then after a couple of hours of playing it I let go and admitted it was shit.

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MazzingerZ3844d ago (Edited 3844d ago )

David I'm getting your game of course!

Without you and other creative folks that bring us this kind of games we oldtimers would have a hard time trying to justify gaming to our wifes! :)

Everybody just get the game and just don't complain about bad reviewers, that doesn't help David, getting the game does :)

clouds53844d ago

Reviews are opinions. And games like these show that opinions can differ. This game is basically all story so it gets even more subjective.
I mean things like controls can be measured with terms like accurate, responsive/unresponsive, slow, fluid, layout, complicated etc. Also graphics are pretty easy to judge (not the art style!), textures and stuff.
But when it comes to fiction and story telling and character development these journalist are usually not trained in those fields (no offense) and that is a problem especially with story based interactive movie games like this one.
Check out "Archengeia" on youtube if you are looking for good and in depth reviews of the story part of games! Hes a writer himself and knows his stuff :)

scott1823844d ago

I honestly don't like this style of game at all, I can see why people might like it, but it is too limited for me. If I want to watch a movie I will heat up some popcorn and veg out on the couch and watch the thing....

I don't like to be critical because I generally love what Sony's 1st and second parties come up with... I just can't get into the "movie games" type of thing. I love games like The Last of Us and Uncharted that had fantastic stories, but were mostly great gameplay.

Lykon3844d ago

I agree to an extent. The thing is I really would love an interactive movie type of adventure if it was done different to this. I thought heavy rain was a mess and there is no way I'm going near this one based on what I've read already , it is at least as bad as heavy rain.

StraightPath3844d ago (Edited 3844d ago )

Medicore game at best. 6/10 IGN more low reviews incoming. David Cage loves making Quick time event games. Rather then having actual gameplay. Story is at times good like in heavy rain but he tries to hard to shoe horn emotional sequences.

Heavy rain and this game can be played on youtube as majority of game you watch anyways.

Wh15ky3844d ago

It's a shame that last bubble can't be popped.

ufo8mycat3844d ago

"Heavy rain and this game can be played on youtube as majority of game you watch anyways."

Sure but you aren't as connected to a character as strongly compared to if you were 'playing'

The Walking Dead is the best example.
What makes you feel such a strong emotional connection to the main character and Clementine is because you control them, making you feel like you are part of the world.

You don't as a strong connection by simply watching it on youtube.

s8anicslayer3844d ago

I just realized that I spelled whether wrong in that tweet...XD

Blacktric3844d ago (Edited 3844d ago )

"Shuhei just reassured David Cage"

On Twitter. As a PR stunt. He wasn't publicly going to say that he was disappointed with the amount of mediocre scores the game's gotten for God's sake (if he cares about that sort of thing). What were you expecting?

Sweep143844d ago

A game with a metacritic of 74 is not "mediocre".

Blacktric3844d ago

And I never said it was. I said it's gotten some "mediocre scores" and that a higher up company figure wouldn't admit that he cares about them (if he does) publicly. Try to restrain that "wounded fanboy" attitude for once before commenting.

Jughead34163844d ago

Yea, IGN gave this game a 6/10. It seems that the reviewer wasn't a fan of this style of game. If that's the case, get someone that will give the game a fair shake. IGN is always pretty strict though.

GuyThatPlaysGames3843d ago

First off, I wanna say that I absolutely loved Indigo Prophecy and I also loved Heavy Rain as well. I just finished the Beyond Two Souls demo and I really enjoyed it. I can't wait to pick up the retail version and play through the whole story. There's more to life people than playing shooters!

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GarrusVakarian3844d ago

Good for him, i wouldn't be put off from mixed reviews either if i was him. Stick to your vision and stay true to yourself.

Thatguy-3103844d ago (Edited 3844d ago )

Exactly some things work and something things don't. That's why it's important to take risks. You learn from the things that don't work and fix them on the next project. Now let's see the ps4 title! (please me Kara). What I question though is how can people knock off the gameplay style when games back then played the same way. It's like people tend to forget how gaming started. Many ways to play games the form of interactivity is what makes each different from one another.

Baka-akaB3844d ago

HE should ignore thsoe feedbacks , ultimately its the publci's that matter . Soon enough the same clown judging it harshly will praise another "Qte fest" , with the probable same flaws , might be ryse , might be another exclusive , or even a multiplatform , but it will happens .

They are utterly inconsistant , even when you stick with one particular author

garos823844d ago

Exactly.not everyone is gonna like this game because it's different and not comparable to other games.
I applaud Sony for the variety and I will with hold my judgement till I play it.

I loved heavy rain and I'm confident that I will at least enjoy this

Lovable3844d ago

Funny thing is these type of games is best suited for let's players.

Hufandpuf3844d ago

The only thing that really matters is if it sells well. If the game doesn't perform well commercially he may lose funding for his next game.

1nsomniac3844d ago

Im giving you a bubble purely because I've had a shit day at work but your avatar made me laugh..... although I do agree with your comment as well.

rambi803844d ago

No, not really. Sony take risks in the software department.

Cage needs other people to critique his vision. Its for the best, just ask Neil Druckmann

NateCole3844d ago

You obviously dont understand Sony regarding these sort of games.

Hufandpuf3844d ago

So if a game is underrecievd, Sony will just try again? That doesn't make a ton of sense from a buisness standpoint.

Rip-Ridah3844d ago

Ico, Shadow of the Collossus, and The Last Guardian beg to differ.

NateCole3844d ago

Huf. Its about trying something different and pushing gaming forward instead of staying still forever. We have seen sony do this since the PS1.

Doghead3844d ago

yeah, keep paying for shit like halo which keep repeating, you will keep getting shit
Since quality doesn't matter but sales...

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DOMination-3844d ago

uh-oh, the dreaded vote of confidence.

jujubee883844d ago

David Cage is surrounded by people that know about making good games (like Yoshida that overseas all of Playstation).

He'll be fine.

oof463844d ago

Thankfully, we are not talking about a sports team coach.

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Obscure_Observer354d ago

"Got that one right, Shu!"

Kind of ironic when Sony is focused on GaaS like never before.

Flakegriffin354d ago (Edited 354d ago )

Companies evolve overtime. Sony has implemented themselves in the single player space relatively well. Now they can expand further by doing more all while still giving us single player experiences. Obviously Shu is speaking on GaaS games being the main dominance of the gaming space and if that’s the future then that indeed sucks.

You can have that mindset all while still creating some GaaS titles.

InUrFoxHole353d ago

They have 10 in the works right now.

Crows90353d ago

Absolutely! Man all the freaking gaas games theyve been releasing...wait. Not a single one.

sinspirit353d ago

Did you read? It says "dominated". That word means something.

RedDevils353d ago

They don't want to be Blockbuster, too stubborn to adapt with time.

tagzskie353d ago

kinda ironic when it comes to xbox you xboys can even defeat einstein in explation why its good, when it comes to ps you guys became dumb and dumber..

FinalFantasyFanatic353d ago

How so? They're only after one or two good GaaS games, they're throwing crap at the wall until something sticks, alot of those games in development are going to languish and die shortly after release. They're still predominately focused on their core strategy of great single player games (look at the previous interview where they admit they cancel alot of games).

Bathyj353d ago

God why do Xbox gamers always love the thought of PlayStation being as crappy as Xbox.?

DarXyde353d ago

"Like never before" regarding GaaS is like saying "PS3 is a console that launched with HDD space like never before": it's a very low bar to clear because there isn't much precedent.

I happen to agree with Shu here. I don't think being a GaaS title is a scarlet letter, but I can't think of any live service games that have been great at launch either. Naughty Dog is looking likely break that trend. I'd say two love service titles at a time is the sweet spot. I suspect people can only deal with a limited number of live service games contemporaneously.

TheCaptainKuchiki353d ago (Edited 353d ago )

Lmaooo
People always criticize Sony because 90% of their exclusives are single player games. People say they are too expensive because of low replay value.
And you wanna pretend like Sony is focusing on Gaas? Their biggest games aren't Gaas unlike MICROSOFT.

ModsDoBetter353d ago (Edited 353d ago )

How are Sony focused on GaaS?

They own Bungie and have Destiny but the majority of their titles are far from GaaS.

Why, if you are such a die hard Xbot, do you rush to comment on Sony related articles?

1Victor353d ago

@obscure
Are you ok now we was worried about your mental health state when you disappeared for almost a week from bashing PlayStation articles.
Is the word DENIED still triggering you?

I haven’t read the article as my spam blocker always red flags that site and I don’t t want to risk it so a general comment it is 🤦🏿
We all know live services game and quality rarely goes together but some of them are fun to play

derek353d ago (Edited 353d ago )

@Obscure, Sony is starting from a place of zero which requires a big initial investment to establish themselves in the live services market.

Vengeance1138353d ago

It's very much the opposite, Shu said this damn well knowing Sony is going hard on GaaS. This is Shu confirming that Single player games won't be effected at all despite them going into Live service.

Extermin8or3_353d ago

Except they aren't really- they have what may be a live service game from Haven studios and firewalk studios, they have another from a second party dev and an fps game with multiplayer focus by deviation games, they counted Gt7 as a live service game but really it's not much different to how recent GT titles were treated, they have the last of us factions, a Horizon multiplayer game in production at guerilla alongside horizon 3, a new ip from Bungie. The rest of their studios seem to be hard at work on traditional singleplayer games that may also have a multiplayer mode or may not. So their live service titles are mostly in development from either new teams setup at existing studios or from acquisitions they have made which really just replace the capabilities they once had through Sony Online Entertainment until they sold it half a decade ago. Only I'd argue their new capabilities in this space would appear to be better and have higher quality talent than it did back then.

Sonic1881351d ago

And what is Xbox focused on? Redfall is so bad, it's worse than Forspoken 😂😂😂

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S2Killinit354d ago

Thank god for actual gamers in the industry.

neutralgamer1992354d ago

Shu I agree but right now Sony themselves are working on more than 5 live service games

Redemption-64354d ago

He never said they were not working on any. He said, he doesn't want to see Gaming's Future dominated by live-Service Games. Sony currently has 25 games in development. 10 being live service games, with the other mostly likely being single player games and that is honestly a very good balance

neutralgamer1992354d ago

I agree I just hope their live service games are not simple money grabs and try to do some good interesting things

-Foxtrot354d ago

"and that is honestly a very good balance"

The issue is, whether people want to admit it or not because it's Sony, but once a company gets a taste of that money GaaS games make the chances of them going money crazy becomes super higher

I know what you'll probably say

"bu bu but Sony wouldn't do that"

NO COMPANY is immune, even the best can fall and I really don't want to see that happen here.

The fact people will completely blow that off and pretend it's not even a possibility is worrying to me because that's how we end up shits creek.

They might be fine...they might go too far but at the moment I don't think it's a bad thing at all to be sceptical with the shit this industry has gone through in the past 10 years alone.

FinalFantasyFanatic353d ago (Edited 353d ago )

The thing is most of those 10 games won't even be viable, out of the 10 that actually get released, probably only 1 or 2 will make the big bucks worth continuing support. I think Sony even knows that, look at all the other GaaS games that release and die shortly after. Personally I'm okay with that because I don't want the market dominated with these games.

I'd actually rather the resources go on to making some more top-tier JRPGs, I feel like we don't get enough of those in the last couple of gens.

neutralgamer1992353d ago

Final Fantasy

But keep in mind when those games fail many of the studios are shut and there are layoffs

NotoriousWhiz353d ago

I don't want a Gaas game. I just want a new socom. A strong multi-player title with no purchases beyond the initial purchase.

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-Foxtrot354d ago

Yeah exactly what I was thinking

Not 1

Not a cheeky 2

But freaking 5

Like it’s not even a “we’ll try doing one and see how it goes”

__SteakDeck__354d ago

@-Foxtrot What do you have against live service games. I’m not a fan of live service games, but multiplayer games can be done right just look at Titanfall before EA killed it. As long as PS’s core studios keep making single player games, everything should be fine.

Redemption-64354d ago

Sony said they have 25 games in development. 10 being live service games, with the other mostly likely being single player games. They have more single player games in development

-Foxtrot354d ago

@__SteakDeck__

Urm....that they are a cancer in this industry

That the majority of them fail and the developers have then wasted years on them rather than other things.

They turn developers and publishers into thirsty little money grabbers where that big money is still not enough for them.

I could go on, defending GaaS games is not a hill to die on man, it's really not

"done right just look at Titanfall before EA killed it"

Titanfall 2 was not really a GaaS type of game compared to what we are getting now so that's a really bad example.

__SteakDeck__354d ago

@-Foxtrot Yeah it seems like you just have a hatred for multiplayer games. I’m not the biggest fan of multiplayer games, but like I said they can be done well. Also Titanfall 1 had no single player it was multiplayer only and it’s now a dead game, but it was still good. So yes that is a good example.

FinalFantasyFanatic353d ago

@_SteakDeck_,
I'm still salty about Titanfall 2, it was one of the only multi-player games I actually liked.

NotoriousWhiz353d ago

Multi-player games don't have to be Gaas games. Look at Mario Kart, Splatoon. Nintendo's games most likely don't have Gaas because they're behind the times, but this is one area where it's better to be behind the times.

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blackblades353d ago

And? They still have single player games. Domination would completely ruled with live services which Sony should know to still do single player. On a side note they should also do a few 1st party smaller games like indie or AA. By the way is indie a single A game.

Philaroni353d ago (Edited 353d ago )

To be fair, so has many other companies aka Ubisoft for example and many of them they decided to end development on. Just because something is in the works does not mean it will release if they do not feel it will pan out. ATM all of the GaaS we know of from Sony are The Last of Us Factions, and some kind of Horizon (Monster Hunter like) game. Also keep in mind, they do own Bungie, and Destiny and there new project be it Destiny 3 and there new IP will likely be that. So just that on its own is near half of what we can best assume.

Main issue with GaaS now days is that its very over saturated. Keep in mind as well Battel Royal games are GaaS by nature also, hell CoD is GaaS. Halo Infinity, ditto. Really now days unless something is an honest to god single player game only the GaaS term gets over used.

Not sure if many played it (I loved it) Gun's Up was a GaaS for a long while, it was going to shut down till some youtubers gave it a bit of new life for another half of year. We know Sony Mobile is working on things and it not shock me if some of this stuff is targeted to the mobile market.

Right now Sony's biggest weakness I'd say is MP games. With that Firewalk studio from lots of vets they just acquired its quite likely there game will have GaaS stuff as part of it, that is still years down the line. I think everyone needs to chill out some and just wait and see what comes. We have not really got a real honest GaaS from Sony before this or even last gen really... At least as we know them now days. Such a broad term now.

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Workshyskiver359d ago

A titan and a legend of the industry.

autoglope359d ago (Edited 359d ago )

Shue is great. .. He even mentioned Miazaki and Ueda,..

victorMaje359d ago

What a Legend. I salute you.

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