Sony's PlayStation Mobile still promises to loosen up the PlayStation brand with added partnerships with Asus and Wikipad, but it isn't a wide-open platform yet.
Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.
Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.
The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.
@car
The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans
https://www.pushsquare.com/...
@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.
@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.
Cacabunga
Helldivers 2...
Redemption-64
In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.
So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.
@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.
@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.
True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.
I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.
Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.
Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.
Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.
Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.
I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.
Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.
I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.
Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?
GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.
I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.
Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.
Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.
They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.
Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.
You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.
700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out
Christopher
I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.
There are tons of live service games that are profitable.
Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.
I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.
Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.
I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.
Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.
I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.
And Im a single player gamer.
How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.
Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.
Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.
Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.
I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.
some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...
monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...
Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...
Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...
Oh all the above last 12 months
I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.
Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.
Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.
Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.
Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.
Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both
So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.
It has support for a handful of Android based devices, It needs to loosen up platform restrictions badly if it's to become anything more then a niche marketplace.
It has a long long long way to go before it comes anywhere close to even shadowing iOS and the Google play store.
PlayStation Mobile could offer Trophies, free games in future
Published Friday, Jul 20 2012
PlayStation Mobile could offer Trophy support, it has been revealed.
Senior account manager Agostino Simonetta said that the PS3 and Vita feature is something the team is awaiting feedback on from the community.
PlayStation Mobile could offer Trophy support, it has been revealed.
Senior account manager Agostino Simonetta said that the PS3 and Vita feature is something the team is awaiting feedback on from the community.
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"That's something we're looking at, it's on the road map. We're looking at a timeline for that," he told Digital Spy at Develop in Brighton.
"We're actually waiting to get feedback from the development community to see what they want, or what areas of PSN they want to be ported across."
Simonetta added that free games is also something the team can offer over time, with the service only accepting free-to-play games from launch.
The team recently revealed that PS3 support could also be in the works if touch controls are figured out.
PlayStation Mobile is an open, cross-platform digital distribution service for PlayStation Certified devices, including Vita and supported Android phones and tablets.
During Sony's E3 2012 conference, the firm renamed PlayStation Suite as PlayStation Mobile and revealed HTC as a PlayStation Certified partner.
PlayStation Mobile has yet to be given a roll-out date.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk...
Playstation mobile will take Sony to the top.-This is my prediction. I am talking about back to making $$$. Like back in the day.
I have to disagree with RUSH. Restrictions is what sets it apart from others. If you let anybody in, is just another store filled with bad games.
i was excited for this but, i read from someone developing software and they were saying that developing for playstation mobile is going to be limited since sony wants what ever gets published to work on everything playstation, so from the vita to the crappiest sony phone to support apps for playstation mobile, which is some pretty crappy phone, i forgot the name of it.... hopefully it changes though.... who knows
@jon1234
this device runs the Tegra 3 Chipset
http://wikipad.com/
"so from the vita to the crappiest sony phone to support apps for playstation mobile, which is some pretty crappy phone"
pretty crappy phone?
look sparky, I do not know who's feeding you that diatribe,on what ever website you been reading, but i doubt very much their credentials are that good with statement's just like you just said. Hacker site maybe?
LMAO, the kind of site that never wants to work with Sony but wants to try to get around NDA's and not go with the Official SDK , with Sony support forum's, that kinda site?
LOL!
what you and many other's are not grasping, is what these mobile chipset's are really capable of.
would you call the PSVita, crappy in its hardware?
because, if you did vs many of the existing top end smart devices including the iPAD 3, the PSVita even has better hardware than that iPad 3 device and is much cheaper to boot.
but what you are also missing, is exactly what these smartphones that Sony's put out into the market, some of the best smartphones there is, hell the camera sensor is pretty good that other companies smart phones are purchasing their Camera cmos component's off of Sony, that include the iphone 4s, and the iPad has sony camera's inside of them.
the Tegra 3 chipset support's DirectX10.1 you know what's funny is even the PS3 and the xbox360 hardware do not even support the full directX10.1 support. what's even more amusing is this year Mobile ARM Cortex chipset's even support DirectX 11.1 and Shader Model 4 and higher.
those crappy phones you just said that Sony put's out,those crappy smartphone's have more robust hardware than the d@mn Nintendo Wii.. this is not conjecture, this is 100% a fact.
the fact that as you said a crappy Sony smartphone, mean's you know less about what's in the d@mn smartphones than you can even put out a very viable viewpoint on its capability's and your post shows that right off the bat.those crappy Sony smartphones as you just claimed has more powerfull chipset than the Wii, must mean the Wii is so far down on the list of hardware that it's below crappy..is that what your saying?
because the Wii is a very good system for Gaming, but these chipset's even in the lowest smartphone's today are running upwards of 1 GHz and over 2 GHz and higher, have more ram, and have more dedicated VRram, Hell the Nintendo 3DS has 6 MB OF DEDICATED VRram, but yet the PSVita has 128 MB of dedicated VRram, with Most smartphones running 64MB of Dedicated VRram or Higher. Look what the orig. PSP was able to do with only 4 MB of dedicated VRram!
Crappy hardware indeed..oh brother