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Submitted by Afterlife 887d ago | news

Molyneux Not Impressed With Wii U

Peter Molyneux has shared his thoughts on what we can expect from E3 in an email exchange with Kotaku. In the communications, Molyneux, who recently confirmed he’ll be involved in Spike TV’s coverage of E3, reveals the extent of his expectations. (Peter Molyneux, Wii U)

Snookies12  +   887d ago
Just like how I wasn't impressed with Fable 3?
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versusALL  +   887d ago
Oh snap. GOT HIM!
EVILDEAD360  +   887d ago
Misleading spin by IGN on what was said by Peter M.
He laid down a few thoughts on some of what he was expecting for E3 and the exact quote was..

'Nintendo's slightly lack lustre Wii U is going to have to blow us away with better specs and great 1st party line up.'

He's not exclaiming to the the press 'I AM NOT IMPRESSED By WII-U'

He simply expressing what seemed like an overall consensus from the gaming and mainstream press after Nintendo debuted Wii-U at last year's E3.

The reveal almost seemed like it backfired for the company.

I think Peter is 100% correct on the assessment that Nintedo has to come of guns blazing to win over the world this go-around.

The First party line-up and the Specs are two are the biggest question marks for the system.

Peter simply pointed out the need for them to impress..and he's not wrong

Evil
ronin4life  +   887d ago
His wording seems poor.
You put his meanings out in a clearer fashion than he did. For a person in his position and fame within the industry, he should be more aware of how he says things and try to avoid misunderstandings.
sarshelyam  +   886d ago
EVILDEAD, you infer that he has a far less critical stance on that, but the reality is that his wording was chosen carefully and is completely subjective. What person in the spotlight that wants to be taken seriously is going to word their opinions on those of the masses?

He is most certainly stating, in those words, that what was shown last year did not leave him impressed both on a hardware and software side.
EVILDEAD360  +   886d ago
@ sarsh

'He is most certainly stating, in those words, that what was shown last year did not leave him impressed both on a hardware and software side.'

LOL..so wait now your adding software to the mix? Your completely reaching at this point.,

Nintendo didnt show ANY specs or official software at all. So how is it possible that he is 'critical' of any of it.

It's simple..read the e-mail that he sent to Geoff and the fellas at GT, and you can easily see he is coming at it from an analyst side of the equation which is has been asked to do.

He didn't even bash the Wii-U, he quote was it was based on the last outing the Wii-U was 'slightly lackluster' and they need to blow everyone with better specs (which could mean than what is currently out this gen) and a great 1st party lineup which we all know is Nintendo's strength.

To say Wii-U's showing was slightly lackluster was being extremely kind. Literally, the day after Nintendo showed it their stock dropped 10%. Again, IMO misleading spin, which was designed to garner hits.

Evil
Dark11  +   887d ago
Well to be fair .. Wii U isn't really that great
we have to wait for E3.
supraking951  +   887d ago
it cant be great when it isn't out yet, yes lets wait for E3 before we say stuff like that, though Sony will overshadow everything this year while Nintendo will show stuff most likely capable on PS3, maybe Xbox.
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legend911  +   887d ago
The Wii U is great, why? It has core gamers, casual gamers, hardcore gamers, all the playstyles in one. Mind you also the iPhone and iPad people, including Facebook gamers. And so... if marketed correctly, what is your argument?
TekoIie  +   887d ago
Oh Supraking951, the irony in your comment :P

"lets wait for E3 before we say stuff like that".

Followed by:

"though Sony will overshadow everything this year".
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ronin4life  +   887d ago
@supra king
Ah, we'll see....
I think that the wiiu and 3ds individually will have more content than ps3 and vita combined at this show. Because if you look at Nintendos 3ds lineup across all regions and have been paying attention to their statements, you wil notice the 3ds Alone has more than 20 experiences waiting in the wings... and with the wiiu being a new console, it will definitely have a large showing.

But like we have all said already, we will just have to wait for e3.
stragomccloud  +   886d ago
System's not even out yet. This is quite an extreme case of knocking something before you try it. Because no one has. ...besides developers who seem to be having a blast with the thing.
Spinal  +   887d ago
+agree

Gameplay vids ensured i never spent a penny on a fable game or any other below par game. I got captain hindsight to thank for that.
sikapwach  +   886d ago
ooohh Fable 1 with the lost chapters expansion is great.
killerhog  +   887d ago
I'm sure many publishers/developers are not impressed/interested in wii-u. Wii-u will probably still be shovel-ware to many devs. by the time the next-gen consoles are out Xbox/ps4 the wii-u will be left behind with more shovel-ware and probably crappy ports.
StanSmith  +   887d ago
Stop trolling.

We already know developers are interested in WiiU. We already know it will be more powerful than PS3 & 360.

What we don't know is how much more powerful it will be. Regarding the PS4/Xbox 720, we won't know their power until those systems are announced.

Anyone claiming their superiority this early is kidding themselves. It is not guaranteed that they will be more powerful, especially with MS's Kinect Focus and Sony's money issues. Sony do not want another PS3 type launch on their hands.
jetlian  +   887d ago
we know epic isnt impressed with it compared to ps4/nexbox thats we do know!
TekoIie  +   887d ago
*looks at Wii's success. Then looks at Wii U*

Killerhog. How do you fail to see that devs are interested in the Wii brand? They have created another innovative product which actually has more potential than the Wii remote.
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PopRocks359  +   887d ago
jetlian, are you trolling? Epic has gone on record to say they actually do like the Wii U.

Here's an interview with Mark Rein. http://www.xbitlabs.com/new...

Here's another saying that Epic expects Wii U at E3 to "shock" audiences. http://www.slashgear.com/ep...
bothebo  +   887d ago
Agreed! No one is going to develop for the Wii U.
stragomccloud  +   886d ago
Troll much?
If you're really a gamer you wouldn't be so dismissive. Every console has something to offer. Which is why, I've always owned every console.
Derpy  +   887d ago
That was my thought exactly, when I saw the headline. LOL

The Movies was the last game that I really liked that he did. I didn't like Fable 1, which I had for the original Xbox, so I have no one to blame but myself for when I decided to give him another chance and grabbed Fable 3 for the PC. What a terrible game. Unless he goes back to doing sims, which he was pretty decent at, I don't think I'll be buying any more of his games.
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Nac  +   886d ago
Came into to reply the exact same thing.
AdvanceWarsSgt  +   886d ago
FLAWLESS VICTORY
versusALL  +   887d ago
This guy's annyoing.
Bimkoblerutso  +   887d ago
There is so much truth in that statement...
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richierich  +   887d ago
Im not impressed by any of his games
fermcr  +   887d ago
I'm not impressed by your remark. Peter Molyneux has been involved with these games:

Bullfrog Productions
Fusion (1987) (designer/programmer)
Populous (1989) (designer/programmer)
Powermonger (1990) (designer/programmer)
Populous II: Trials of the Olympian Gods (1991) (designer/programmer)
Syndicate (1993) (producer)
Theme Park (1994) (project leader/lead programmer)
Magic Carpet (1994) (executive producer)
Hi-Octane (1995) (executive producer)
Genewars (1996)
Dungeon Keeper (1997) (project leader/designer)

Lionhead Studios
Black & White (2001) (concept/lead designer/programmer)
Fable (2004) (designer)
Fable: The Lost Chapters (2005) (designer)
The Movies (2005) (executive designer)
Black & White 2 (2005) (lead designer)
The Movies: Stunts & Effects (2006) (executive designer)
Black & White 2: Battle of the Gods (2006) (lead designer)
Fable II (2008) (lead designer)
Fable III (2010) (lead designer)
Milo and Kate (formerly known as The Dmitri Project) (cancelled) (lead designer)
Fable: The Journey (TBA)

Now tell me... what games have you been involved with ?
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richierich  +   887d ago
The same amount of games you're involved with
BitbyDeath  +   887d ago
I accidentally clicked disagree.
Bullfrog games are awesome.
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GraveLord  +   887d ago
Technically, no the console itself doesn't have amazing specs. But that controller is really interesting and I love the idea of not needing a TV to play games.

In the end the games are all that matter.
CaptainN  +   887d ago
You know the official specs?....or are you speaking on stuff you have no official knowledge of. Games do matter most, but don't go talking about things you don't officially know. Its things like that ,that get drones,bots and fanboys their flame bait in forums and posts.
supraking951  +   887d ago
He'll forever suck on MS's teet
shackdaddy  +   887d ago
Well hopefully he doesn't develop for the wiiu then...
richierich  +   887d ago
Lol
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SpiralTear  +   887d ago
The first-party lineup really isn't what he should be worrying about. First-party Nintendo games are usually pretty damn good. People will likely buy the system to play them.
bothebo  +   887d ago
And then what?
TheModernKamikaze  +   887d ago
He's never impressed. He's unimpressive.
redDevil87  +   887d ago
lolmolynuex
ziggurcat  +   887d ago
more like lolyneux
OllieBoy  +   887d ago
Ex-Microsoft employees sure love to run their mouths.
killerhog  +   887d ago
Yeah, because Nintendo folks play nice? Didn't one of nintendo's heads make a jab at the psvita? Pretty much saying the same thing? How he's unimpressed and vita is no challenge to the 3ds?
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StanSmith  +   887d ago
Miyamoto did not say that at all. He said that he was unimpressed due to a lack of software available and he sympathises with them as it was the same situation that the 3DS went through upon launch. He actually complemented the Vita saying it had great hardware.
Alos88  +   887d ago
Honestly, I haven't been impressed with Molyneux's ideas for a long time now. His latest pearl of wisdom? "We need to get rid of save files."
It's like every idea he's had for years now gets worse than the last.
Ck1x  +   887d ago
Well since Milo was such a great success on Kinect he deserves to run his mouth right? Oh that's right, it never came about in the way that he boasted it would change gaming! Lol
mamotte  +   887d ago
He was impressed with kinect, what can we expect from him? On the others side, he has'n impressed me since Black & White 2.
Titanz  +   887d ago
It's not like Nintendo has a lot to prove
Showcase whatever the Wii U is capable of
Impress traditional and casual consumers with exclusive content
Input an online service, that isn't hampered by friendcodes
bothebo  +   887d ago
There is no casual market. Why don't Nintendo fan boys understand this? Apple has taken it all! How many people do you see playing Angry Birds on their iwhatever? How many people do you see playing their 3DS? Speaks for itself.
Ck1x  +   887d ago
Well the 3ds selling almost 20mil systems in a little over a year disagrees with you. This being with a more core software line up that the 3ds has over iOS games. And if Apple has taken all of the casual market by storm, Microsoft sure seems to be content with how the Kinect is selling right now!
corrus  +   887d ago
Before i had read that he like WII U
ziggurcat  +   887d ago
so molyneux isn't impressed with something he hasn't had his pretentious hand in... *shocking*

he also said littlebigplanet wouldn't work.

and how the on-rails fable journey isn't on rails...
sarshelyam  +   886d ago
All of the above may be true...

...that said, if we're talking about the uncertainty of the Wii U spec/software lineup, and the ambiguous nature of its reveal at last years E3, I can't disagree with his view.
Danniel1  +   887d ago
Ohohohoho Peter Peter Peter, you can't say this kind of stuff. You've been underwhelming gamers for an entire generation now.

Go plant an acorn.
LOL_WUT  +   887d ago
He wasn't impressed thats understandable.
ronin4life  +   887d ago
He is speaking of last years e3, after all.
But his statement seems present tense, which is a mistake. Sure, all we have to go off of is last years conference, but by saying it IS lackluster without present info seems more like a misinformed jab than a personal opinion. Like a pessimistic guess rather than a real stance either way.
sarshelyam  +   886d ago
His statement, as it stands today, is still valid. Nobody knows anything about the system, and all we have to go on is last years reveal and the "rumors" running rampant on the internet. With that information, it's still logical and justifiable to have concerns. Granted, those concerns may well be addressed in a little over 2 weeks.
Zeppelino  +   887d ago
Well, for all I know, I am the one who needs to be impressed.
stuna1  +   886d ago
I agree with you because the ones who purchase the systems should be the ones who should be impressed foremost.
mochachino  +   887d ago
I haven't been impressed with anything Molyneux has done since Fable 1 and even that wasn't that impressive.

Not saying the Fable series is bad, it just isn't close to being among the best games this gen imo.
CruelAib  +   887d ago
I Agree Whit MarioFtw.. cause when the Xbox720 and the ps4 come out im sure it will be more powerfull but at what price
Like 699$ for a ps4 or a xbox720 it will be hella expensive
Also Power mean problem look at the ps3 so much problem Overheat Yellow lIGHT of death Blu ray drive problem
and Much more i had a ps3 and 1 year after that Yellow Light Of death what do sony did ....Nothing Ps2 what the best sony Console whit All those Rpg game and more :)
Rampaged Death  +   887d ago
The internet where nobody can have an opinion !
Ulf  +   887d ago
The deja-vu from 2005/2006 is pretty hefty here. "Way back then", Nintendo fans were calling out the Wii as "good enough" and that "it will have plenty of core games, you just wait". Now that we can look at those comments with 20/20 hindsight, we can see that those comments never really panned out, now did they?

Maybe most of the posters saying this weren't using computers, or reading internet forums and news sites, 7 years ago. People's memories are so short... especially when 7 years takes you from age 9 to 16, I guess.

I will be the first to stand up and state that assuming the ballgame is the same today, that it was 7 years ago, is folly -- but not everything will change. Be careful in repeating the BS of the past.
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ronin4life  +   887d ago
Except, it does have plenty of games.
If you only ever come here for gaming news, chances are you missed quite a few games. Games you can't get anywhere else.
Redcrimson101  +   887d ago
Well, sorry to disappoint u mr molyneux, but nintendo's wii u latest development kits has 6 cores, a better gfx chip than the 720 and has 3 gigs of ram and last but not least, is running unreal engine 4, which all next gen consoles will be using. Also, do I need to mention the wii u tech demo of Zelda? If all this doesn't impress u then I don't know what will.

As far as 1st party and third party go's, nintndo already has that covered with new ips, their 1st party games and not to mention every game that comes out for current systems the wii u will have the same games optimized for their system lol. Do your home work.

All three systems next gen are going to have the same gfx and games. It's all going to boil down to who has the cheaper unit and games. Nintendo is the best. Remember that. If nintendo can win this gen with the weekday hardware of the 3 systems, whT u think they will do with an equal and or powerful system? It would be overkill lol.
stuna1  +   886d ago
Not trying to be funny but, next time you take a trip in your time machine please take me!

You are just assuming those will be the specs for the wii u, why do you think so many people are clamouring for information about it? Because no one knows.

As far as Mulynoux goes he's entitled to his opinion! It doesn't mean he's right.
josephayal  +   886d ago
Well he is the expert
Gr81  +   886d ago
What is
There to be impressed with, or not impressed with..yet? Last years reveal was very half assed and seemed rushed, I'll give him that, but as far as making an informed decision either way on Wii U...There's just not enough solid info there to do that.

All we have is rumors and unknowns spouting contraditory info.

Its best to wait and see what E3 brings.
sarshelyam  +   886d ago
His words implied the fact that based on the uncertainty and last years ambiguous reveal, there really is nothing to solidify this as an impressive machine. We have a lot of theoretical uses for the system, we have highlighted demo reels, and that's about it.

I think he chose his words carefully, and speaking today, there's still cause for concern considering how little information there is.

He set the tone for a very exciting and pleasing reveal. Really, how can anyone not be impressed with what Nintendo has to offer when you look at how poorly they unveiled last year? You know what they say? Expect the worst, hope for the best.
Metroid007  +   886d ago
i hope when he see's some real graphics off say Nintendo/Retro studios or UE4 running on WiiU he will stick to his word,because i couldn't care less about Fable on WiiU,when we have major games on the way plus he is alienating himself from what could end up being the only Console maker,as we have already heard Sony prob wont bring another console not a physical 1 anyway,so that leaves 720/WiiU to battle it out and Nintendo will win hands down,then were will Molyneux take his crap games then ???

Another thing is where does this guy get his info,because everything iv'e heard so far on WiiU is super positive can't understand his views not 1 bit.

WiiU has

Better Online than LIVE and PSN
Better Graphics by say 12 times going off V6 devkit
Better Proccessing/4 threads per core/Watson tech/enough said
Better connectivity
Better Storage/confirmed support for 3rd party hardrives
Better interface/360 degrees panaramic viewpoint ect
Better features video chat/rumble/NFC tech/voice chat/Proper Internet/proper app store

Oh there have been several mags that clearly state the 720 from xbox will have a 6670 which is half the power of HD4870 for example and the WiiU is getting a custom GPU based on RV770 but also using AMD's very best graphics tech from the Radeon family,720 is just getting a standard GPU a HD 6670 its not custom.
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sarshelyam  +   886d ago
A better question is where do you get your info? Based on that list you post, it will be assembled in solid gold and have diamond accents.

You know how we can tell that the list is bull?

"Better Online than LIVE and PSN"

Sorry, Nintendo has taken a passive stance on online and there's no way a first entry would be better than either of those two services, one of which has been established for nearly a decade, while the other offers a completely open and free platform. Nintendo would never welcome an "open" platform, especially considering the family protocols it so strictly adheres to.

"Better Graphics by say 12 times going off V6 devkit"

Developers have also stated that the graphics are a slight leap above current gen consoles, but only slightly and even then, it depends on the developer.

"Better connectivity"

Better...connectivity? What does that mean? My PS3's connectivity with all of my Bluetooth devices is pretty amazing. It also speaks to all of my other DLNA compliant devices in the household, truly streaming ALL of my content wirelessly.

"Better Storage/confirmed support for 3rd party hardrives"

Better storage? Absolutely not. Xbox 360 can support multiple USB devices, external storage media, and cloud...as can the PlayStation 3. What, then, would make the Wii U better? I'd say if it supports what I detailed, it would be equal...and about time!

"Better interface/360 degrees panaramic viewpoint ect"

Your interface example is questionable. It is still to be determined whether this tablet offers really compelling experiences, or simply passive gimicks. I'm inclined to believe, based on my use of the Wii, that I will grow tired of the gimmick and hope for the day when I can just sit down, relax, and play my Zelda without the use of waggles, waves, or panoramic panning of my tablet controller.

On to your last point, and paragraph...everything you quote here is purely speculative rumor.
StanSmith  +   886d ago
"Sorry, Nintendo has taken a passive stance on online and there's no way a first entry would be better than either of those two services, one of which has been established for nearly a decade, while the other offers a completely open and free platform. "

This isn't Nintendo's first entry into online. Wii and 3DS both have online gameplay and online Stores. Even the Gamecube had Online (although extremely limited).

"Nintendo would never welcome an "open" platform, especially considering the family protocols it so strictly adheres to."

WiiU's online has already been described as being very open. Ubisoft amongst others commented on this last E3. They are letting the developers take control.

"Developers have also stated that the graphics are a slight leap above current gen consoles, but only slightly and even then, it depends on the developer."

Anonymous developers are the ones who said that. If they were so confident and their statements were true then they should reveal themselves. Personally, i'll believe the likes of Randy Pritchard and Epic's Mark Rein who say that WiiU is much more powerful.

In regards to the Tablet controller being a gimmick, I also don't agree. It's worked for DS and 3DS and it works for Vita.

Gamers these days are far too afraid of change.
Metroid007  +   879d ago
When E3 comes and goes read my comment again thats all i have to say but yeah all that above is confirmed in 1 way or another.

well wiiu has support 4 external HD=better than ps3/360

Online is said to be everything live has and psn and alot more=better

Well better cpu/gpu is totally confirmed Watson tech in cpu and Custom Radeon HD gpu using modern tech=better

Better features basically look at the tech demo's.
poo342947294792  +   886d ago
nintendo consoles are all outdatedto heck, not saying thier games are not fun but they never push anything,.....the real point is cliffy b and this bald monkey should make a super child
blakstarz  +   886d ago
This guys should be the LAST person to comment on anything impressive and let alone quality, he has disappointed on so many levels, word to the wise, keep your mouth shut!
InTheLab  +   886d ago
I find it bizarre how this man who is incapable or properly expressing ideas, whether verbally or through his work, has a correspondence gig on national television.

I'm guessing this will be like Shaq on TNT babbling about basketball while the other hosts look lost wondering what he's talking about...

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