Late April, 2005. The NDA was signed and delivered, and I was waiting for the call from the US. Having foolishly failed to remember the connector for capturing an audio feed, I relocated to a quiet corner of the office on a different floor and carefully laid out two analogue tape decks next to the phone to record the conversation via its external speaker, just to be sure.
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The core don't play Kinect and Kinect is first priority for Microsoft and the Xbox now. Just look at the retail Xbox exclusives this year for proof. Nothing but Kinect new IPs and exclusives and the usual Halo and Forza for the core.
The core fans that got the Xbox where it is today beg and plead for Killer Instinct 3, Perfect Dark Zero 2, and a new Conker but MS said screw you guys we're done with you. We got what we wanted from you making us the top HD console and now we will move on to the casuals and instead of all of those games that YOU want from RARE we will make RARE make Kinect games instead. We have no more use for you core gamers except to buy Halo 4 and Black Ops 2. We may make more core games next gen when we need you to buy our next console but for now, screw you guys.
you can't please every one
Stop getting caught in your unnecessary hate of kinect. Right now MS is trying to bridge core gamers and kinect so they dont have to waste time doing it next gen. They are expecting you and all the others to go retarded. What they want to do is get as many people as they can familiar with kinect controls and concepts as they can so next gen they can come out swinging. As a benefit for gamers like me I get to get a taste of what the future will be like, its like playing a beta for the next gen.
Even with that said its not like they stopped production of all the core games being made for the industry. So in that sense
the 360 is the most core system out there, because they arent only trying push the status quo of core games but also pushing to expand it.
this is what happens when non-gaming executives are making all the decisions. they see games as products and nothing more. they don't see them as entertainment, fun, art or anything else. this is why the movie industry sucks and why the gaming industry is following down the same path.
kinect is inferior to anything else on the market. i have it and even my girlfriend won't touch it. it is too inaccurate and too slow for me to even want to plug it in anymore.
Kinect Is rubbish.... LOL, I always do this. Please tell me what makes kinect "rubbish" and remember before you answer I have kinect, I play kinect and have played it sense launch so I know what it actually does in capable hands so when you say some BS, I am going say its BS and give examples why what you said is BS.
As a quick example kinect is inferior to anything else on the market. Kinect is actually the most advanced peripheral on the market. Kinect can track your entire body in fact more than one person at the same time, while everyone else requires you to hold a reference point. Kinect makes its own. Kinect is extremely versatile. Its tracking methods can be tweaked and changed, for instance some games may require skeletal tracking others may use silhouette tracking, even FROM software was just talking about the way they tweaked the recognition to sections and modules to make it even more accurate for dashboard operations in Steel Battalion.
Another thing why wouldnt you have it plugged in, it extends your systems control at no extra cost. You are either lying or just one of the crazies. Please... if you have kinect go download the demo of Kinect Star wars play Pod racing take the steering assists off and tell it works to slow and inaccurate so we can officially label you a lunatic. Better yet try the demo of Kinect Rush Pixar and tell me it is slow and inaccurate, is fruit ninja slow and inaccurate too. These gane are very fast and accurate. Like I said I have this stuff if you cant make it work its you, take comfort in knowing that you are not alone there appears to be lots of uncoordinated gamers that cant grasp kinect (or just arent putting forth the effort).
I know when kinect first came out it had some issues that made the learning curve steep, but now is not then and they are only getting better.
" it extends your systems control at no extra cost"
last time i checked... u gotta buy the kinect which cost money. and u also gotta buy a piece of hardware to connect the kinect to the xbox console which also cost money unless the console is kinect ready.
"Stop getting caught in your unnecessary hate of kinect"
stop getting caught in your unncessary love of kinect
"Even with that said its not like they stopped production of all the core games being made for the industry."
they didnt stop production of all core games but they did stop production of most core games and allocated the resources in making kinect games.
maybe that's why core gamers are pissed off at kinect
You have to do better, really think before you start typing.
First off Glennco said he already has the kinect and that he doesnt want to plug it in. So i'm obviously not talking about purchasing the kinect. And like i said it doesnt cost as in affect your standard experience and just gives you more options to use so my point still stands.
Second you have no idea of what you are talking about, NO kinect doesnt need a secondary piece to connect it. If you have an old Xbox you just have to plug kinect in to a plug were the kinect ready one means its powered by the xbox itself. So you are commenting about something you seem to not even have knowledge of in its simplest function.
And then you say they stopped production on most core games.Which is impossible since most core games are made by 3rd party. But i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you are talking about their internal sources. First thing you have understand is kinect and core are not opposites of each other Kinect is pretty much a really fancy controller it will play what it is programmed to play (this is what you call a fact). Now lets look at three upcoming kinect games and dissect their coreness. Crimson Dragon is pretty much Panzer Dragoon almost exactly, there is no article or publication you could find that would ever call Panzer dragoon casual or not core. Steel Battalion is hybrid game, it is Mech game that has been traditionally very complex, it controls like your standard FPS with a controller and adds depth and function using kinect. To call this game anything other than a core experience is foolish.
Then there Fable the Journey, little is known about this game some say its on rail others say its not that hear say. but what we do know is that it has a free form magic casting system. There is nothing casual about that at all, remember Fable as a series is a core experience. The biggest gripe people have had with this game is they arent sure if it is on rails or not. But then that should open up a discussion whether or not on rail games are not core. I have to much respect for game developers to challenge their ideas on what would make a solid game. I use to work on projects with game devs in college and the amount of work that goes in to a game deserves more respect than writing it off because you dont respect a certain mechanic. Their job is to deliver an experience and it sad when people try to totally avoid seeing what they set up for them. That hurts the gaming industry more than anything. Thats when you get a bunch of sequels and tons of copy cat games out of popular genres and no new stuff. Well kinect is new stuff and I embrace the new because I dont want to be stuck only playing the old.
i always thought its good for surgeons who wants to use their hand to control the monitor during a surgery.
and for certain people to dance and do fitness with the kinect.
crimson dragon ... better with kinect!
i guess kinect was for core gamers all along, at least in theory, my bad.
Microsoft may not have many exclusives, but the ones it does have are must buys in my opinion. I also prefer to play most multi plats on 360. I am so glad I own both the PS3 and 360 so I don't have to get involved in this BS.
just ignore trolls and fanboys (their opinion means nothing) and comment on the points of the article as if this was an xbox only site. this is an xbox matter, i don't even read PS3 comments in xbox articles anymore, they are not worth my time.
And you wonder why Microsoft isn't investing in any new core IPs. When it comes right down to it, they've got their system's owners saying "Oh, well," and accepting what they give you... which isn't much.
the worst comment I have ever seen on N4G, never been a core gaming console....................... ........puts head in hands.........
the main reasons I buy multi plats on 360, because that's where all my friends are. The PS3 isn't a very sociable console.
I have like 30 people that played Battlefield Bad Company 2 with me every goddamn day.
I stopped playing BF3 and went back to Bad Company 2. Just love that freaking game. Maybe I'll catch you in a match or two if I have not already.
@demonddel
"Hate Microsoft all you but I own Both systems and I know which one is being play the most by the hardcore"
The platform with the most hardcore games? PS3!
Xbox does well with multi plats but I see no effort by M$ to push xbox technology.. Mostly Multiplats and kinect.. meh
M$ doesn't even invest much in their own gaming platform for core gamers. & Now that they have a core game it's only a sequel never a new ip.. Why else would they spend 50Million on gta 4 dlc and not make a new game?
http://www.wired.com/gameli...
They rather the third party make games for the core so they can focus on kinect.
Meanwhile
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Sony is a games company more than M$..
The single player games Playstation have are vastly superior in terms of quality to the xbox and they dont seem to have dipped n quality from the last generation unlike xbox games or multiplat titles which have severely.
The only reason I get games for xbox is if they arent available on PC or are Gears of war.
The ony thing holding back the playstation is the online and how its completely disconnected with no way to efficiently cross comunicate with your friends.
I much prefer the console itself and its games t the xbox but the xbox interface is much better and party chat is a must.
The playstation also does not seem to stand well with multiplat developers as it uses its own coding language due to the cell processor which was a stupid decision on Sonys behalf and its why they have confirmed next gen they are using Intel or AMD.
Its probably why some multiplat games i.e Skyrim are so buggy on the playstation because its coding is very different to the 360s and PCs which are the same and are in most cases almost a straight copy and paste job.
firstly, the xbox 360 has more "core" games than you can shake a stick at. did max payne 3 not just come out on the 360? minecraft? i guess skyrim isnt a "core" game now either? forza 4 mustnt be.
secondly, yes the PS3 has had more "core" exclusives in the last 12-18 months, but you know what? most of them were mediocre at best, and sold accordingly. is it really better having an exclusive come out that scores 6s and 7s out of 10, than not having that but having multiplatform games that score 9s and 10s? no.
people in here seem to be forgetting that once you buy a console, it doesnt matter if there are exclusives coming out or not. YOUVE ALREADY GOT THE CONSOLE! its safe to say that at this stage of the 360s lifetime, ~7 years after release, the very large majority of the "core" gamers already have a 360. you know who doesnt though? the other 99% of the population, the casuals. much like the PS2 did, the 360 is attempting to draw them in because that is how you get sales of 100m+. not by releasing mediocre linear scripted single player exclusive after mediocre linear scripted single player exclusive. you get there by releasing casual games and convincing the 40 year old mum that she should buy the console.
you didnt complain when the PS2 did it, so why is it different when its the 360?
PS2 didn't do that until after the PS3 launched, if at all. You only need to look at the PS2's first party line-up to see that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
Pay close attention to their 2005 and 2006 releases. Practically all of it was core focused. Buzz is the lone game on that list can really be considered casual. Marketing may have shifted focus, but the product stayed consistent.
Nice try, but Sony never shifted focus in the way Microsoft has.
***"is it really better having an exclusive come out that scores 6s and 7s out of 10, than not having that but having multiplatform games that score 9s and 10s? no."***
Since when does having exclusives mean that you don't/cant have multiplatform games?
Having more exclusives doesn't do anything bad to gamers. And most of them are not mediocre. I lol @ people using starhawk and twisted metal to represent all PS3 exclusives just because they are the most recent ones to come out.
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The system with the highest attach rate is PS3.
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A report recently came out showing more people on Xbox Live use it for services like Netflix then games.
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MS's E3 conference is going to be centered around "services", and Kinect. NOT GAMES.
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SONY & Nintendo conferences will be all about games.
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Prove me wrong.
doesn't make any sense to me.
Now I have not got a single achievement on X360 since 26th january and not bought a single exclusive within a year, why you say? Because I dont like XBLA/Kinect even I have a Kinect in my livingroom or not enough exclusives (games from X360 to PC dosent count as exclusive in my head since I have a gaming rig)
This road Microsoft is on turning me away from Xbox 360, so the next Xbox continues to not deliver me 3-7 exclusives a year then I will never buy it.
Even my PS Vita or 3DS have been in more use than X360 since last year and Vita has only been out since february 2012 in Europe
Xbox 360 had its appeal to me, but not anymore. So thank you Microsoft.
This comes from a owner of PS3/PC/Wii/3DS/Vita/X360 this generation.