Sony’s Brian Upton responds to a fan accusing that the upcoming Playstation 3 exclusive game, Sorcery, contains “racist” and “stereotypical” voice-acting from a traveling merchant character.
Lol, good lord people... Here's the thing... I know it may shock some, but "The reason it's stereotypical racism, is because there are SOME THAT ACTUALLY SOUND THAT WAY!" I realize this was apparently supposed to be Russian, and not racist, but it's still funny how people get up in arms about that. I've got black friends who laugh at black jokes, I laugh about being a southerner, learn to laugh at yourself and get over it.
Not just SOME, but very often MOST. I used to work at a hotel, and we had an all-black church choir come in from Mississippi. I told the breakfast chef, "You'd better make lots of waffle mix," just joking around about the stereotype. (I'm not racist, I have black family members.) And wouldn't you know it, while the chef was able to get by with a single waffle maker for 5 straight years, the demand for waffles by the choir meant that he had to go out and buy two additional makers just to keep up. There's nothing racist about that. Liking waffles doesn't make anyone less of a person. But it's a stereotype that is very true. Anyone that gets upset because people say something like I said is stupid. That would be like me getting upset because someone assumes I like Halo just because I play video games. I swear, these people who hate racism sure do like to pretend it's in every nook and cranny, don't they?
i don't even get that one at all, I'm black and i prefer pancakes >_>
I'm white, and I prefer waffles. mind = blown
im black and i perfer chicken and watermalon
Inveni, that made me laugh pretty hard lol. I'm black and prefer pancakes to waffles, but I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority....pun totally not intended. OT: people need to stop being so overly offended by everything.
I understand where you're coming from, but also try to keep in mind that a lot of racism is right in our faces but treated as if it's just nothing. There are times when it's harmless and in good fun, but it helps to know who you're dealing with when you say certain things, as they might not be as kind about it as others. For example, I tend to ignore racism towards me, in general, because I pity the person who can only think that way. I'm less forgiving, however, when those same things are applied to others. A lot of people ARE too serious about it, but many have reasons. My dad doesn't really joke about things the way I do because he's had his life threatened by the KKK, something I haven't had to deal with. For him, it's no laughing matter. Just gotta be careful with what you're saying to certain people, that's all. Edit: Ladies and gentlemen, please understand this, most of all: though there are people of all races that are able to laugh such things off or not take them as anything more than it is, there ARE those who have suffered because of these stereotypes, who have been treated as less an individual, less than human. As much as WE can recognize these things as harmless, we must also keep in mind that it's not the same for everyone.
I think the problem is when people who aren't your ethnicity make fun of your ethnicity. I mean I laugh at Mexican jokes when a Mexican or a non-Mexican friend tells them but when the person isn't mexican or a friend I take it as racist which might be the case here.
Stereotypes wouldn't be stereotypes if there weren't some truth to it. I just dislike when people buy into it to the point that they treat it as fact. For example someone might say your not a real [insert ethnicity here] if you don't [insert stereotype here]. Some people even say that about their own race which I find completely ridiculous unless they are joking.
One comment on the PSBlog turn into this? Just release the game already!
Those same people who have suffered hate crimes need to remember who was responsible for that suffering. It wasn't I that threatened your father. And just as I shouldn't treat him like I think he's going to rob me, he shouldn't treat a harmless comment about waffles or fried chicken as anything more than it is: a comment. I'm not saying that he doesn't have a right to be jumpy or scarred (and scared, in a way), because he could be legitimately traumatized by what happened to him. You should talk to him about seeking counseling or group therapy so that he can learn to deal with what happened to him, and then he can learn to rediscover the joy of the simple things in life.
@ ChiVoLok0 Don't get offended... think of it as "Yo Mama" jokes. Just in this situation Mama = Race. People joke about what makes them different because it's one of those parts of life that's just funny. Sometimes the humor is based on a painful past, because eventually we learn to laugh about horrible things, because crying just causes more pain. Just remember, there is "real" racism out there which we should all combat and most of it takes place in the political spectrum. But for us common people, we should be above the petty "they used an accent, that's offensive to my people"... because in reality, we're all part of the human race and those who concentrate on real hate are ignorant and will never fully experience life, and those who get butt hurt over every little thing race related are just as racist.
I'm Arab and I like to blow up bui...ballons!
I really have no idea why someone wouldn't prefer waffles... those squares are so beautiful and they hold syrup, win/win.
it must be nice to have the luxury to not find bigoted comments offensive. most of u people fail to realize there has not even been one full generation in america yet where civil rights for all "citizens" are "equal". small pebbles make avalances.
A debate about waffles and pancakes with a dash of racism lol. Seriously though these are bad nutritional choices I suggest porridge with a piece of fruit, not fruit juices; maybe a handful of nuts.
But what if I am a super cereal person?
I say people get too offended these days by racial jokes.
Microsoft responds to “racist” voice-acting accusation in ????? Guaranteed it would be double standards on N4G. GUARAN-F*C#!NG-TEED.
Excellent point. I'm from Russia and I love stereotypical characters . Guys like Ivan Drago and Russian mob bosses. This political correctness is getting way out of hand. I can't even whipe my behind without being called racist.
I bet your name is Dimitri! :P
I wouldn't of dignified him/her with a response. What a fleshwicket.
What in God's name is a fleshwicket?
I don't know. But I think it just became my new favourite insult...
I'm afraid to Google it.
it is probably a cricket reference.
It's the part of the gentleman area that most resembles a chestburster from Alien. A fleshy wicket. Glennco, not necessarily a cricket reference but you could say 'my fleshwicket is in your grassy crease'.
So what, one person whinges on the internet now and games developer has to justify himself? For godsake people, so what if he did speak with a middle eastern accent. You cant have a middle eastern character? Was it because he WASNT a terrorist, is that what confused him? Wouldnt THAT be more stereo typical?
i dont hear where he sounded like a Middle Eastern. when i think of a middle eastern accent i think of a Haji at the gas stations accent. not a russian accent. the guy sounds nothing like a middle eastern. the person that made a big deal about it is just a freaking retard.
racist? i didnt even see a hint of racism in the trailer.
"Let's see... What can I gripe about today?"
This is ridiculous.. Whats the world coming to ehy? Racism IS being abolished and the people who bring it back are the supposed victims...
you can't abolish racism, there will always be racists and racism, you can only make the world intolerant of their ideas and their attempts to marginalize what ever group they seek to disenfranchise. Blaming the "supposed victims" and claiming that racism "IS" being abolished betrays your naive view on the subject. so lick some balls there Sagan sucker.
I don't think that last sentence was nessecary at all.
Well, lets look at it like this, is it incorrect to say that racism is being abolished? Was racism not much more common 50 years ago? By saying "there will always be racism and racists" you admit that you are prepared and willing to just accept that our world could continue to be inhabited by those primitive mentalities. that kind of thinking helps nothing, or no one. Abolishing racism is within our grasp, I do believe that, even if it takes a further 50 years or more to do so, we humans are more than capable, Maybe you should have a little more faith in your own kind.. And as for "blaming the supposed victims", I should clarify. We can target the genuinely racist ones among us, and ensure that these archaic ideas are suppressed (we have come a long way in 50 years) but if there are those of us so willing, and ready to see racism where there is none, then that's a huge step in the wrong direction. I'm not 'blaming victims' I am criticizing those who are too ready to be victims.. They mask the true problem and make the whole subject much more complicated... So you can call me naive, maybe I am possibly a little naive, if so I'd rather be this way than not have any optimism for our own future..
Babytown, one day you'll learn that simply speaking the truth with politeness is good enough. No need to add that last sentence, which destroys your credibility. 12
Racism is being abolished? Must be nice where you come from. What planet did you say that is? I have faith in the human race, but I'm also a realist. One could argue that racism is just as strong today as ever, just more discreet.
I agree 100%
I don't think you could argue that racism today is as strong as it ever was... Right now, I am sharing a home with 2 Italians, a man from Jordan, another from Israel and a girl from South Africa.. My neighbors are from all over, Spanish, Brazilian. We all get along perfectly, there is not an ounce of prejudice among any of us. So yeah I believe that racism does not have to exist, it's not some dream painted in a blissful future. As the world slowly becomes more multicultural, even the worst among us will become more tolerant. They will have to otherwise society will marginalize them. It's already happening... I agree though, that it may be less apparent since people are discreet about their prejudices. But the fact that they NEED to be discreet now is proof that this way of thinking is declining.
Yeah, OK, if MILLIONS are willing to let the "Cole Train" slide, I think you could be similarly forgiving.
The Cole Train runs on Whole Grain, baby! That line is just too awesome to hate.
People are so quick to play the damn race card.
I'm Arabic and I love seeing Arabic people in games when they aren't the bad guy. But this guy is Russian so, this isn't an example.
Lol. Racism... Half Mexican, half Jewish guy shoots a black kid. In response, a group of black people beat up some white guy. The only reason they did that was because the media constantly pushed the half Mexican, half Jewish guy as a white guy. The media is responsible for a LOT of the racism these days. Like Morgan Freeman said, "If you stop talking about it, it will go away."
There was no revenge beating of any white person in the Trevon Martin incedent. The black people who supported the family where only asking for Zimmerman to be arrested, as the kid was doing nothing wrong and was approached and killed by stupid Zimmerman. The media mischaracterize Zimmerman to inflame the the masses, but that does not mean that there were not elements of profiling due to the race and dress code of this young man. Black people are still stereo tpyed and profiled in the U.S.A and most other places in the world for that matter. To deny that fact would be very dangerous and deadly to a black person.
Every nationality, race and religion is stereotyped all over the world. There's supposed "racist" jokes about pretty much everyone, and the media has been blowing it out of proportion. Stereotypes exist because that's how we as humans can make sense of the world. You can't possible ask someone to view every one of the 6 billion people on earth as an individual, as our brains are not able to deal with that kind of information. Instead we generalise and stereotype based on culture and experience. We put people into classes, and the difference between racists and non-racists is not the stereotypes, but how you treat the people individually.
naw pappy right. The USA makes black people look bad people. Other countries think all black people steal and are rude that from the US.
Simon, there's bad stereotypes about everyone. The USA doesn't do anything differently to black people than it does to anyone else for as far as I'm concerned. Like I said, stereotypes are based on personal experience, cultural aspects and perception. The thing to note is that how the stereotype is used in day-to-day life determines if you're a racist or not. For instance, if you categorise black people as "thieves" in your personal perception, but know that not all black people are thieves, you're not a racist. You're just a human being with a brain that is making sense of the world by abstracting away details. If however you think that all black people are thieves, then you are a racist.
You are making it seem like there was no confrontation at all between them. People are becoming completely one sided between all of this bullshit of a case. the kid got killed. nobody knows the reason except zimmerman and trayvon. And if trayvon was actually doing nothing wrong, then how did zimmerman get a broken nose and a big gash on the back of his head? someone tell me that. OH WAIT!! nobody can tell me cause nobody knows. so how about everybody just quit it with the debate of that stupid case.
There actually was. They beat some white guy up and said, "That was for Treyvon." It was a news story a few weeks ago.
12 people thumb you down for telling the truth lol. about 98% of these comments is BS (for reason i won't detail).
People ask for the steriotyping. If you walk around with your pants on your ankles talking like "YEA T, My Nigga T! The fucks up nigga" you have no right to be angry when someone thinks your a degenerate gangbanging asshole. If you ride around bumping ghetto music leaning back in your seat your going to get pulled over. These things are due to how you dress, act, and behave, NOT COLOR OR RACE. If you dress and act like a gangbanger or criminal tough shit, you brought it on yourself. Why would a normal law abiding citizen dress like gangster or hustler? Theres nothing wrong with assuming someone is what theyre trying to look like or act like. Its like a white bald guy with a 1%er jacket on complaining because people think hes a hells angel or biker. Why the hell wouldnt he be if he's dressed like one? Its common sense.
@sjaakiejj Why the hell would i be racist against black people if im fucking black. I just told you a stereotype how the world see black people from the states. Look at how the US media show us in anything. Especially Hollywood but i guess your to blind to see that.
the racist one is the person who calling it racist.
In that case the FA are definately racist, amirite?
Actually, in this individual case I'd say Wenaldy is right. The person in question is stereotyping for seeing a travelling sales merchant, hearing his voice and assuming it's a middle-eastern accent.
Yeah, I agree with him, absolutely. The guy that pointed this out is clearly some horrible basement dwelling organism. He is clearly looking for racism where none exists. A sad trend these days. But you have to understand, I saw the oppurtunity to poke fun at a Liverpool fan and I took it.
Haha, that's fair enough :) I know nothing about football, so I'm assuming that the logo in his avatar is Liverpool's logo?
Earlier this week people were up in arms that The Avengers is saying Orphans are Evil, now this? It never ceases to amaze me how many people are simply content to find something to whinge about...
Overreacting at its best. -_-
Breaking News: The world turned stupid @ 11.
I'll never get used to seeing the word "whinge" to mean a person who constantly complains. I know that it's the British version of whine, but it looks so wrong and sounds wrong when I listen to it, and I'm Canadian. Lol. Anyway, on topic, the internet has given a voice to the stupidest of people. Unfortunately, these people also have all the free time in the world to post complaints like this where none should exist. Sorry to say this but, stereotypes are very real. Doesn't mean they are universal, but there are people who do enforce them. It's just a fact. And also, THIS IS A GAME AND WAS MADE FOR ENTERTAINMENT! Why can't people just laugh? Take a joke for once and live longer. If someone came up to you and spouted a racial slur, then ok you can get offended. If the game said something horribly racist and did so with a very hateful tone, then ok get mad. But getting upset over a perceived accent and stereotype? It's like getting upset over the frickin' Aladdin movie. I'm Canadian. The stereotypes for me would be drinking, hockey, and in rare cases living in an igloo. I don't drink, I don't watch hockey, and I certainly don't live in an igloo but it won't stop me from laughing at those kinds of things. Especially if it's part of an excellent joke. The people who get offended by these things are A)Attention seekers, and B)People who deep down are offended by what they think is the truth about themselves or their culture. The grown ups don't get offended by it. Simple as that.
You sir are racist for not tolerating a British word! *Sarcasm for the people who didn't get it.
this is the cry babies generation LOL
People have been pushing this politically correct BS for a while.
Sorcery looks a little kidish for my tastes but at the same time it looks bad ass and I can't wait to play it, I really need more move games and I hope sony dosen't stop here. I do like the fact that it's a move only game because the focus is all on the move controller and making it a great experiance imo. whens the release date ?