Capcom recently released sales projections for several big upcoming games, and paint a stark contrast to their past statements regarding Dragon's Dogma. Does the company not expect the lofty expectations set to be reached any more?
this is ealier than I expected. lol
Capcom has screwed over the community with DLC and milked franchises nearly ever month this entire generation. Now they have finally released something that looks unique and interesting and they aren't going to support it? So weak. Especially since this is the first original thing they have done in ages. Maybe it's better this way anyway. Although I was interested I can bet you they have chopped this game up so they can release unlockable costumes, weapons and quests for an arm and leg. Or should we wait for the release of Super Dragon's Dogma Gold Edition next year?
"Capcom has screwed over the community with DLC and milked franchises nearly ever month this entire generation" That's why I don't plan to purchase any game from Capcom, SQ(except Hitman) and no more Call of Duty for me. I might just go back to PC gaming since Diablo 3 and Guildwars 2 are coming out soon.
You took a lowered sales projection and decided that meant they wouldn't support the game? O.o I'm sure they're looking at the dropping numbers on all the sales charts and revising their expectations, which is what they should do. Funny how a new IP being projected to sell 1.5 million is considered bad now.
I partially agree with everything you said and heres why. As a collective whole the gaming community continues to support DLC even though we as a whole bitch about it. Its funny to see people up in arms on various web forums like ign,gamefaqs,here and other outlets and then go onto internet game streams to see the same people turn around and buy the game AND continue to bitch about DLC. Until gamers as a collective whole say F*ck you capcom and your DLC they are going to continue to be greedy. P.s. I completely agree with mysticstrummer. The lowered sales expectations are nothing new and has been standard proceedure in any business. If the overall industry as a whole is seeing lower than normal sales then of course expectations will be lowered.
MysticStrummer, the opening paragraph blatantly states that 1.5 million for a new IP is fantastic. *Edit* I thought it did, I guess it was edited or something. It is mentioned in there, somewhere
"If they’re expecting a sleeper hit here, well, they’re suggesting it’ll be more like a coma." This is what I'm referring to. In an earlier paragraph it says 1.5 million isn't bad, but then you have the above line, which contradicts that.
What's unique about Dragon's Dogma, pray tell? Pawns that don't stop talking?
Oh yeah you're that jaded gamer that saw everything in gaming ... maybe you could share your wisdom and find a game where i would say , casually use ice spell to create a climbing stair so i could land on the back of a dragon , keep climbing onto it , then proceed to pierce its head ?
If this game has disc locked content i wont be buying it for sure. Ill just get it from gamefly instead. Looks like a good game, but principles are principles.
I really liked the demo but it's a Capcom game so I won't be getting it on release day. I'll wait to see if it contains disk locked content or not. If it does then it's either a bargain bin purchase or maybe I'll just skip it completely.
i know many will hit disagree but capcom has lost it this gen they release way too much dlc on disk dlc sequels after sequels after sequels their own home grown developers have left them for american based publishers or forming their own studios and this game will be successful because we the fans see the potential and see something interesting from capcom in a long long time
if this game will be DLC Fail-o-rama, i wont buy any Capcom title in other way then bargain bin
Yea i'm still contemplating whether i should get RE6 cause i really enjoyed the survival horror and RE6 look's to be leaving that genre like RE5 did.
im thinkin about Dragons Dogma ;)
I loved the demo, it gets better everytime you play it. Certainly hope the game won't be chopped up into tiny little DLC pieces...
eh again with Capcom and DLC jokes...it's getting old, seriously give it a rest! we are talking about an action "RPG!!" here it will have like approx 40 hrs of play time or even more "without" the DLCs...why only Capcom get blamed and hated for a something that is very common this gen and done by most game developers? i don't understand it @ PersonaCat late reply lol, see, Capcom isn't alone in this business, i "think" some devs like Capcom make the DLCs alongside the main game just to completely finish it and focus on other projects... nobody knows if the content on SFxT were locked from actual full game or on-disc DLCs "i don't have problems with this one", but if it's really locked content from the game, then i'm totally against it! also, i think they should remove the agree and disagree buttons completely from this site!
You dont understand because you are in love with anything Japanese. Capcom deserves all the flack they are getting because they ripped of us off. I don't know if they are going to try this with DD, but you'd be pretty stupid not to question it. And what other developer has put characters on a disc, locked them, then tried to resell them as dlc?
Capcom have always milked, with seemingly thousands of versions of street fighter 2 I think they invented it. Each version had small changes and different characters, like dlc for the full price of a game... Back then games were like 80-100 dollars apiece!
The DLC IS a joke, how can we not make fun?
I'm waiting for the CO-OP dlc :)
Though I'd take a Lost Planet Wii U edition over the latter (which would be a Dragon's Dogma Wii U edition).
@ neckbear. (does that mean you have a neck as thick and hairy as a bear?). I am with you, and glad for putting up that link. Has anyone thought that by putting 1.5m estimates how it will look for them whe. It sells over that amount? It'll be a "win" for them across the board. Them saying this grand ole "10million" number and estimating for reals 1.5 is very smart as far as company goals goes. When they do hit over 1.5 mil, which I firmly believe they will, it makes the company look really good and they were pleasantly surprised. Companies have been doing this for years to make themselves look good to investors throughout the years. Good business. Now 7 mil for RE6 is going to be the tough number to hit.
Bubbles for being sensible mate.
Does anyone not think that when they said 10 million that they were crazy and obviously overhyping a game that would not sell that many if it were really, really good. They are releasing a week after diablo 3 and max payne 3. May is owned by rockstar and preorders for diablo 3 are historic. Add game of thrones to the mix, which already has a huge following and they may be a tad pessimistic. If it were a year in which skyrim, kingdoms of amalur amd the witcher 2 hadnt released and rpg fans were starving...Also, by the time ppl are done playing these games it will b september. With that being said, it may do well despite this, but not 10 million...10 million?!!!!
It was definitely overhyped, but the thing is, I think they believed it. They didn't just mention 10 million once, they drove it into the ground.
They mentioned they felt the game was good enough to sell ten million, not that they expected to sell ten million. Their expectations for the game were always of 1.5 million copies. You should go and read those interviews when they mention that figure again, rather than speculating blindly for whatever reason. EDIT: Even in last year's shareholder event, Dragon's Dogma was expected to sell 1,500,000 copies. See Page 14 of this document, dating from the previous fiscal year: http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/...
Thats good to know. It makes a huge difference. I really want to play it and im gonna try my best to do so. Hopefully in the summer. But, i need to finish batman, kingdoms, a second playthrough of me3 & 1 1/2 of the witcher 2. I love rpgs and the only thing that im worried about is the story. I liked the demo alot but how do i chose between that and game of thrones or max payne if i just go for a game thats gonna b great. Im glad i dont hav a pc right now cuz i really wanna play diablo 3 too. But, it does make more sense because they were not gonna sell 10 million. I think people just like to call others out. That may b fine but not if it isnt what they said.
Neckbear, I understand that it was that, but there expectation was always 1.5 million? They seem to be flip flopping around. In the article, it states that they think they'll easily clear 1,000,000 in Japan, alone, and go as far as to say it was assured.
No way were they selling 10 millions from a new IP... Me,tobe honest, I liked Dragon's Dogma demo, but this is Capcom, so this game will have lots of DLC and a complete edition in a close future, so maybe when the Ultimate Edition is at 20€ I'll buy it.
Serves 'em right for not releasing on the PC platform. I feel a game of this scale and content would benefit greatly from the PC gaming market with mods, creation tools, etc. And I find it absolutely absurd that Capcom has decided against a PC version, citing the pawn system as the main hindering reason, as the team found it “a bit difficult,” due to the fact that players will be able to borrow and lend out their pawns to other players. And I have only this to say - If From Software can do it with Dark Souls, so can Capcom with Dragon's Dogma.
Sorry to disappoint you but not every dev needs to bow down to the PC platform, and not every game is "better" because it's on PC. Mods and creation tools do nothing for the devs and publishers, and I would guarantee that Capcom's excuse is a PR move so they don't have to say "well we don't want our new IP pirated to sh*t"
"Mods and creation tools do nothing for the devs and publishers" You're completely wrong. If you honestly believe that people don't buy games so that they can run mods or create content you should get your head checked, boyyyyy.
"You're completely wrong. If you honestly believe that people don't buy games so that they can run mods or create content you should get your head checked, boyyyyy." I'm completely right. First of all, not all games legitimately support mods. Second, not all devs would be HAPPY with mods. Third, the amount of people buying the games for the possibility of mods would be trumped by the people buying the game for, I don't know, the actual game. Finally, devs and publishers don't see any actual money from mods, and when there is a potential of hundreds of mods not bringing in any money, what incentive is there for the developer to waste their time and the publishers money developing a PC version? PC gamers think they deserve everything. It's pretty sad. It's probably worse than the fanboy wars over 3rd party exclusives on consoles.