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WoW doesn’t lose or gain subs for the first time in a year, and why that’s a bad thing - LAG

LAG - "World of Warcraft, Blizzards undisputed king of the MMO world which was released back in 2004, has reigned supreme for 8 years. When they released their second expansion, Wrath of the Lich King, back in 2008, their subscriber base crept slowly towards the twelve million mark. This expansion, however, was met with a great deal of anger by the long term players, both casual and hardcore alike, and saw the emergence of a new type of player, the so-called “entitled casual.”"

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Anarki4364d ago

I wouldn't say 10million subs is a bad thing, not in the slightest.

NYC_Gamer4364d ago

That's damn good for an mmo 10 million users paying every month.....people like to make it seem like a bad thing for some reason .... how many other MMos out there have 10 million paying subs???

Anarki4364d ago

None, nothing even comes close to WoW. Fair enough, they lost a lot of subs but still....10million subs is a lot!

kevnb4364d ago

Exactly, and its been going for what, 7 years now? Its the reason we get disappointed with an mmo that only lasts for a few hundred hours before it gets boring...

soundslike4364d ago

4-5 year dev cycle isn't even enough for an mmo anymore. Won't be long before the games need 10 years of straight development without any breaks from licensing issues or publisher bs.

catfrog4364d ago

werent they loosing a lot of subs in the past two years? going from loosing subs to not loosing subs is a benefit for blizzard, not a loss. blizzard is on their way to growth again if this keeps up.

Fylus4364d ago

I really hate to be the douchey guy who has to correct everyone's spelling, but it's "losing", not "loosing".

Sorry, I really am. Anyways, I still agree completely with you.

Fylus4364d ago (Edited 4364d ago )

Anyone else tired of WoW doom articles?

DeeBee4363d ago

Dumb article -

"Well, let’s say that all 1.2 million passes were bought by new and returning players, that means 1.2 million people would have had to have left the game for the numbers to remain the same."

The guy decides to assume that all 1.2 million annual passes were sold to either new or returning players when in fact the vast majority were sold to existing players.

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Microsoft has ‘let Blizzard be Blizzard’ following its acquisition, studio says

Microsoft has 'let Blizzard be Blizzard' following the acquisition of the veteran developer according to World of Warcraft's executive producer.

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Kaii6d ago

Diablo 4 storefront being a cash grabbing shitshow does unironically attest to that, kudos.

kythlyn5d ago

Microsoft needs to be guiding Blizzard to be what it USED to be, not allowing it to continue to be the greedy bastardization of itself that it has become.

XiNatsuDragnel6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Okay i will be interested if they become old Blizzard but might as well be dead.

Rynxie5d ago

They will never be old blizzard. Most of all the OG's left from developers to those on the top (even some decision making folks left).

Vits6d ago

Shame most of the people that made Blizzard what they were, have already left a while ago.

ApocalypseShadow6d ago

I was about to say this. How can they be blizzard when they're no longer blizzard from yesteryear?

blacktiger6d ago

Rare was the thing I lost heart

victorMaje6d ago

Exactly. Blizzard hasn’t been Blizzard for a long time.
Oh how the mighty have fallen.

Knightofelemia6d ago

Blizzard is not the same Blizzard like it use to be.

PassNextquestion6d ago

Were you expecting Microsoft to hire everyone that had left Blizzard long before they purchased the company...

Microsoft has let the Blizzard company they purchased continue to be the Blizzard company they purchased.

thesoftware7305d ago

Wow, PassNextquestion,

You fully understand what that saying means, unlike some people on here who just have to say negative garbage talk.

When someone says, "Just let *blank* be *blank*, "they are just letting them operate how they operate.

It's pretty much how Sony "let Bungie be Bungie."

This comment section is full of outright haters, but you have to "let N4G be N4G"

GamerRN5d ago

This site leans so heavily in one direction...

BISHOP-BRASIL5d ago

I don't think people commenting are necessarily blaming MS for anything here, this is just collective longing for what Blizzard/Vivendi was before Activision's meddling.

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World of Warcraft Opens Beta Sign-Ups for 'The War Within'

Blizzard Entertainment has announced the opening of beta registrations for “World of Warcraft: The War Within,” inviting players to explore new subterranean worlds beneath Azeroth.

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Former Blizzard President Suggests Players Should Have Option to Tip Developers

Former Blizzard president Mike Ybarra recently suggested an interesting concept that has sparked a debate among gamers - the idea of being able to tip developers after completing a game.

LG_Fox_Brazil9d ago

If I had a 100% way to be sure that this money would go to a fund or a reserve dedicated only to the guys who develop the games, be them designers, artists, programmers and so on, I could think about it.

But we all know that this 'tip' would only end up in a publisher's CEO pocket to buy a new yacht, so, no, I ain't tipping anyone anytime soon on this industry

neutralgamer19928d ago

Exactly these companies were raising money for good causes and gamers were donation and come to find out they are keeping a good chunk of be pie

PapaBop8d ago

Yeah tip your developer, 5% proceeds go to developer, 95% to the publisher or whoever. Isn't tipping for staff not making minimum wage? How about they just pay their developers properly and like you know, give them fair bonuses? Too much to ask from Blizzard these days, Kotick saw to that and is now laughing all the way to the bank.

MrDead8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

It's the t**ts at the top looking at ways to cut devs wages and get the players to tip them like waiting staff, and I'll guarantee a percentage is skimmed and kept by Activision Blizzard. This is 100% for shareholder and CEO playouts.

Popsicle8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

I have to agree with this. On the surface tipping devs sounds like a great idea, but in the end it leads to pay cuts and subsidization of pay. Tips then become an expectation or the devs “can’t make a living.” Lastly, especially in the US, tip culture has gotten out of control, and it serves as an excuse not to properly pay employees. Sounds good but doesn’t end well.

drizzom7d ago

@ Popsicle

I think your right on the nose with how much tipping has become rampant. Instead of it being a relationship directly between the customer and the developer or employee, it now has a middle man ingrained in the system. DoorDash is one example. It ends up becoming a metric where the company can measure 'just how much more money you are willing to part with' before raising the price on the main product.

1Victor8d ago

Uh so they’re trying triple dip or more we buy the game that they’re already withholding/cutting content for dlc we was told that season pass would help the developers thrive we felt for it.
Now on top of all that plus their sales bonus they want tips enough is enough whatever happens to you create/built a good game get a bonus for sales milestones you care about your game and community we reward you with more sales not for doing 3/4 of a game then save the other 1/4 for dlc and passes after

raWfodog8d ago

The 'tip' is me buying your game in the first place.

S2Killinit8d ago

Very well said. If it was possible to send the money to either the developer or some organization for the betterment of gaming, sure. But we all know that will not be the case.

Rynxie8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

No, it would go to those on the top. They will still fire developers, have a bunch of microtransactions, raise prices of games and so on.

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H99d ago

So they eventually don't pay their workers and depend on our tips to pay them like the case with waiters!

Deeeeznuuuts8d ago

That kind of practice is only normal in the states, as far as I know anyway, what a backwards system

H98d ago

No it's as well in a every country that wants to amercanize

bloop8d ago

Ireland is literally the first stop across the pond and we don't have a tipping culture. The only establishments here that would expect a tip are the tourist haunts that Americans visit. Other than that, you might tip in a restaurant as a sign of gratitude for great service and waiting staff would be paid a full wage anyway.

Rebel_Scum8d ago

Tipping is not customary iin most countries dude. Get a passport lol.

Jin_Sakai9d ago

Is this a joke? How about the big wigs giving up some of their pay for their hard working developers.

MrBaskerville8d ago

Maybe the CEO could earn his money based on tips.

mastershredder9d ago

good god. The devs are not baristas dude. Total 1% ideals. Fing Chadosaurus.

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