Battlefield 3 Ships 15 Million Copies, Taking a "Very Significant Share" from COD, EA Claims
MP1st - During an earnings call yesterday, EA highlighted the growth of the Battlefield series, and EA’s CEO seemed content with Battlefield 3′s market share in the FPS genre.
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wow that's damn impressive, those be COD numbers. Activision you have some serious competition on your hands. and can you imagine what BF3 and BFBC3 is going to be like? Pfft!
Ea also shipped something along the lines of 3.5mil copies of ME3 and only sold Just over 1/3 of those in the first few weeks. This doesn't prove BF3 is taking anything from COD since the sales keep breaking records every year...
I wasn't talking about MW3 specifically but more the average numbers it makes and I was also under the impression that those games sold 15-20 mill max. Also if you honestly think that selling 10-15 mill copies of game won't have a dramatic impact on the competition then you're kidding yourself.
@Pekolie
because stores don't order more than what they can sell off and if the game isn't selling then numbers being reported would be a lot lower and if since we're talking 15 mill then it's safe to assume they've sold the majority of that stock.
The "sales" numbers don't really matter to the publishers or developers though. It's the "shipped" numbers that do. When it's shipped to the stores, the publishers already have their money, anything else doesn't matter to them. The retail stores decide how many copies to order based on pre-orders and supply/demand during the post-launch weeks.
Therefore, shipped copies isn't something you can just scoff at, and is about as accurate to the success of a game as "sales" numbers would be, if it were possible to accurately retrieve them. And it would be impossible for every store to report to a publisher of the exact amount of copies sold, which is why shipped numbers are quoted instead. The only type of sales that can be 100% accurately tracked are digital sales.
Cant imagine many will buy the next BF game though, I don't really know anyone who is still playing it and there aren't many active serves these days compared to early in the year. I know I wont be buying the next one if EA don't change their policy around online play for the PC version..
Welp, if we add those 15 million in sales to MW3's 24 million or whatever they've sold, what you end up with is 37 million suckers who bought a couple of crappy games.
BF3 was a big downgrade from BC2, and as for MW3.....do I really even need to point out the obvious?
Great, now every damn company out there will be trying to same modern shooter crap... If put up against COD, BF3 could do this, anyone with half decent advertising can grab a few millions guaranteed sales.
I'm not saying BF3 is a bad game (I actually play the game), nor COD (actually, I think it's crap, but that's irrelevant), the thing is most publishers can be back in black with 1/10 of those sales. Expect the next COD-killers from Ubisoft, Square-Enix, Capcom, Konami, Namco...
Still 15 million is a significant chunk considering most FPS games sell 2-3 Million at most. Shipping maybe 5 million. Sure CoD might sell double that, but shipping 15 million for a first attempt of stealing the market is pretty impressive.
BF3 I admit has some negative things when compared to BC2 now, but MW3 isn't golden egg either. Still I do enjoy BF3 knife stabbing more than anything else. Taking out a whole squad with knife is an amazing feeling.
just goes to show. invest in a new engine attempt something slightly new in the genre and dont let it get stale and you can reap the rewards. ive yet to buy it but i will do soon at one point
lol@ "the bestbuy where i live has about 80 copies locked in a case."
Ppl post lies for no reason. A person running an electronics store, especially a best buy, would not have that many sitting around for all to see. Ive managed stores and one of the things you have to do is keep copies out of view to make it look like theyre selling. Also, stocking up that many doesnt help the retailer at all...your post reeks of CoD fanboyism, get a clue.
15mil shipped is a nice chunk of the FPS market share. Hope they can continue building on this already great game.
I don't really see this as taking market share from Activision. This isn't a case of consumers buying one or the other. More than likely it's the consumers buying one and then the other as well. However, it is good to see a little more competition in the category.
I wasn't lying one bit. I live near the Best Buy in Warwick, RI. When I was there going to buy Kingdom of Amalur ,that Best Buy had so many copies of BF3 that they actually put all the extra copies in a glass case they usually keep expensive peripherals, handhelds, ipods, etc. in.
I was surprised to see so many which is why I remember it so vividly. I also gave the game compliments and spoke about what I hope it does for a quickly growing stale FPS market. Thanks for over reacting and calling me a liar.
Jesus EA, it's like Kotick slept with someone at EA's mom. They stay keeping Call of Duty on their minds. Sound like a jilted lover. Are they also going to mention Call of Duty shipped almost twice as much, or that 3 separate Call of Duty games have larger online communities than Battlefield 3?
Are they not expected to compete? I mean we are talking about arguably the number 1 vs 2 games in the shooter market, and 15 million shipped is still a decent accomplishment.
If anyone thought EA could kill the competition in 1 year they are delusional, but doing that good last year could mean good things down the road in 1 or 2 or 3 years from now. Especially in the next gen market.
There's competing and learning to shut up. EA are obsessed with COD and they are definitely the worst gaming publisher (even tho they publish great games) in the industry.
For once I wish they'd let their game speak for itself instead of hyping things up and bash their competition. Remember the E3 trailer claiming BF3 was going to have innovative features? Ha load of crap.
Taking a "Very Significant Share" from COD, EA Claims BF3 did NOT take any share of the market from COD!
COD still did it's 20 million units and BF3 did it's 15 million showing you that the industry has room for both games.
Now if COD would have only sold like 10-15 then yeah you could say EA took market share but this was not the case.
15m shipped is SOLD cause the Pub gets paid by the store then the store sales them to you and I. I'm sure the new map paks will bolster more sales.
Funny thing is Activision has all but wrapped MW3 up and has moved on to hyping BO2 while EA and BF3 are gonna be here for a while which is a good thing.
BF2 had a lot of expansions and long term support so it would be great if BF3 got the same treatment while we all know COD does things differently.
all i know is that MW3 ales have slowed down compare to last COD in last few months, and a downfall is coming and i am not hating on the game by any means. When something is as big as COD sooner or later people will stop caring as much.
activision gave up a good game in true crime because they thought it wouldn't sell well look it here sleeping dogs not only look good but has potential to sell well
how man bad movie tie in or spiderman games do we need for every COD?
Kingdom of Amalur is awesome if you like Action/Adventure RPGs. I was worried it wouldn't live up to the hype. Amalur is IMO one of the best games this gen in its genre.
Amazon has been throwing out sick deals too. Anyways, cya later.
15 million were sold. Think about it. Whether they are in the hands of consumers or retailers the publisher already made their bank. Games are not sitting in distribution warehouses and retail shelves on consignment. The publishers of said product was paid.
Yeah but that doesn't mean 15million people are playing Battlefield 3 does it? I really hate when a company releases 'shipped' numbers then everyone starts congratulating them thinking there 'sold' numbers.
Why do you care what a game does or does not sell as long as the publisher and developer make enough money to warrant continual support of their product and the resources to make sequels?
Why is everyone on gaming sites so hung up with sales figures and ratings of games?
All I am stating (factually) is shipped vs sold to consumer might matter to fans wanting to argue popularity or lack there of but to the manufacturer or publisher of said product once shipped = sold. Members of gaming sites are arguing semantics, I'm stating facts.
As soon as the game is in the hands of distribution centers or retailers shelves the publisher / manufacturer already made their bank. That's it, nothing more.
Then you would've sold 50 million copies. When are people going to learn that products are not shipped without the manufacturer or publisher being paid to do so. Products are not shipped on consignment, they are paid to be shipped.
if the game is not expected to sell 50 million then a store isn't going to buy 50 million. as a matter of fact the average store might by 100 copies per store if your lucky. Even Mario games don't ship 50 million
COD doesn't have to do anything, it's not the one chasing the crown and constantly mentioning it's competetion to garner more interest in its game.
let's face it, bf3 was hyped to hell and still is lagging behind. I feel more sorry for bf fans as it's obvious ea wants the crown and seeing as BF3 the "best fps game eva!" still couldn't topple cod they will resort to stripping away more and more of what makes it bf.
Just make YOUR game ea and let those who enjoy it's gameplay support you. Cod fans are NOT interested in what you're selling so just please YOUR fanbase.
Um, no one can. It's currently the best selling game franchise of all time. That doesn't go unchallenged in a competitive industry. It's all about being top dog, and EA wants to be top dog.
I didn't but CoD. My son moved over to Battefield after I introduced him to Bad Company 2. He did not even ask me to buy MW3 and did not use his allowance for it either. We have 2 PS3s and it is nice playing Co-Op and online together.
Another point that should be made hat the average Internet monkey fails to understand is that this was a statement about earnings, not some press conference bragging about sales to consumers. This was intended for EA's shareholders and taking marketshare is exactly what shareholders want to hear. It's not about "Ha ha, we took some of CoD's sales, take that Activision!" but more about making shareholders feel they made a good investment and that they are a good risk for future investors. Every company does it and I imagine if someone were to post up the comments made by Activision to their shareholders they would probably have comments about retaining "X" amount of marketshare against EA and BF3. It's the same with any company that has any sort of competition. Naturally I will probably get disagrees since rational thought doesn't seem to be a high priority of the Internet peanut gallery.
I loved Bad Company 2. Way better than COD. Was so excited for BF3. Bought it and was disappointed; the update made it worse. Now I've been playing a lot of MW3 because they just ruined the BF franchise. I hope Bad Company 3 would be similar to Bad Company 2 and not BF3.
I just got Battlefield 3 yesterday and I love it WAAAYYY more than Bad Company 2. All the maps I've played so far are great, the controls are 100x better than BC2s, the graphics are noticeably (but not largely) better, the weapons are better, the fact that you don't have to unload half a clip of ammunition into an enemy to kill them is better.
Actually, Bad Company 2 was the most disappointing Battlefield game I've ever played. I even enjoyed BC1 and 1943 a lot more than BC2. Not to say BC2 was bad, because I did have SOME fun with it, but I didn't find anything about the game to be 'amazing'. None of the maps in that game were really great in my opinion.
I hope they take the BF3 route with BC3, at least in regards to the smooth and fast controls.
My favorite bad company was 1. I loved the maps and feel of the game. I also enjoyed its single player. Bc2 was a bit more serious and that's where they started going after the cod crowd, still fun though. I lost intetest in BF3 and MW3 about a month after each released and sold them.
Got that same email... I sent a reply email for shits and giggles telling them to stop pulling DICE servers offline for pay servers and maybe I would come back but until they fix that...I am off to play other games.. like COD and Ghost Recon in May.
This is the problem. Too many companies out there just focusing on grabbing the CoD audience and have their games just rip off of CoD. BF3 maybe better than CoD, but it definitely disappointed the hell out of me because it was no where near as good as BF2. Same thing goes for Crysis, MoH, Splinter Cell etc etc.
Give it up EA. Your not fooling anyone with your "shipped" copies story anymore. You claimed you were going to take down the beast that is Call Of Duty and you failed at it. Modern Warfare 3 isn't a great game, but it still beat out Black Ops for number one all time for first day sales, which is a new world record.
I also think Modern Warfare 3 sold close to 15 million on the Xbox 360 by itself. I don't hate Battlefield, but I think that game was built up on hype and had a ton of issues. EA just needs to learn to shut up and let these developers put out games.
If you check the top 10 lists for any month, MW3 is still on it, while Battlefield 3 is nowhere to be seen.
different games. it is like comparing forza to need for speed. CoD is marketed towards the biggest consumer category, the casual gamer, BF will never outsell a game that excels in that category.
You are kidding yourself if you don't think they are geared toward the same audience. They are both geared toward gamers in general, shooter fans, why do you think so many bought both games. Ea even says they are competing with Cod and can't keep it out of their mouth.
He was talking about SALES as in copies actually SOLD not "Xbox live charts"... Oh BTW on the Xbox Live charts what are the top 3 games? or top 10? Don't think you would want to bring up any of those facts now would you?
A) There is a considerable amount of COD buyers that bought BF3.
B) BF3 has a different audience from COD.
If case A is true, it's no wonder why so many developers would like to chase that crowd. On the other hand, had it been the latter - devs are no better than chasing a wild goose and should've focused on the market OTHER than the COD (which would make up more that 80% of the console market).
Same here, ive bought all the cod's since ps2 era but mw3 is the first i didnt buy because i wanted battlefield 3 instead. just borrowed mw3 from my brother who was another huge cod fan now turned battlefield , and im glad i didnt buy it because from what i have played so far it doesnt even get close to the intensity and fun factor i have with battlefield so sorry activision unless you step your game up , i make part of that percentage drop and wont be buying anymore reskinned games from you.
Here's a fact: I played Black Ops for a month, traded it in, and continued to play Bad Company 2 for well past a year until the day Battlefield 3 released.
I played MW3 for 4 days and sent it back to Gamefly, then put BF3 back into my system, which I've continued to play since release.
See the trend?
I don't care how many copies MW3 has sold, BF3, even with all its flaws, STILL blows it out of the water. Same goes for the rest of the Battlefield series compared to CoD, except for CoD4; that game was revolutionary for its time.
The point is, as gamers, we shouldn't care about copies sold, but the quality of the game. It isn't money in OUR pockets, is it?
I slightly disagree but I think I get your point. We should care about sales because the really good devs need to recoup what they put in to the games so they can continue to make more great games. You are right though, no money in our pockets unless we own stock but the sales are needed to keep the industry moving.
BC1 was infinitely better than your 'revolutionary' CoD4. Single player was semi-open world where you actually had a choice in what to do instead of having your hand held the ENTIRE time.
CoD4 was a classic example of fooling the player into thinking he is actually playing an intense military shooter instead of an arcade shooter. i found it the same boring linear game the previous ones were just in a modern setting. just an interactive movie. 1 good sniper level does not make a great game.
Multiplayer BC1 had vehicles and destruction compared to CoD4s kill streaks yet the world barely even noticed BC1. BFBC2 suffered the same fate. See that trend.
I'm not even a CoD fan anymore, and I can still say that CoD4 was an amazing game. The original Bad Company was just as great of a game, but had a number of flaws that kept it from becoming more successful. I feel that Bad Company 2 blew the original Bad Company out of the water, though.
I see your point, as Bad Company implemented some awesome innovations, like extreme levels of destructability. However, despite my preference for Battlefield, I feel that BFBC wasn't quite as refined as CoD4 in its time, even though both games offered things that the other didn't. BFBC had a number of issues (server problems, gameplay mechanics, etc.) that CoD4 didn't, which kept it from being a marginally better game. DICE also stopped "supporting" it, if you will, much sooner than they did BFBC2. We didn't see any real type of expansion or add-ons for BFBC like we did BFBC2. I thoroughly enjoyed BFBC; I just think CoD4 was more polished and well-supported.
DICE ramped it up to 100 with BFBC2 and pretty much topped any MP game I've ever played to this day, including the original BFBC as well as CoD4. That's why I played it from launch to BF3 release, and put down CoD4 after a good 6 months. BFBC2 is the game BFBC should've been. I think BF3 is a close match to what BFBC2 was, but its various problems keep it from pushing past it, despite it being an amazing game which I love and continue to play (much like the comparison between BFBC and CoD4).
I'm not quite sure what you mean by BFBC2 suffering a bad fate, as I and many other gamers played it a lot longer than any CoD title...
Despite EAs attempts to sabotage the game with their greedy executives. this is great and all but i can rarely find a damn game of rush since the update here in australia. Last night i managed to find one for the first time this week. so awesome to have such a huge choice of ONE rush server.
EA need to focus more on Battlefield than the Battle between Battlefield & COD, If anything it takes the developers away from the game trying to kill COD, The reason people love BF is because its in its own league, doing it own thing, just like Killzone & Halo, Forget the competition & become your OWN competition!
I love battlefield with all my heart but sadly these numbers are no where near mw3 numbers and they have not effected the mw3 sales. mw3 has sold 28 million copies and that is sold not shipped. that number is greater then mw2 sales and black op sales.
im interested in the thought process behind that comment. They took a significant market share from COD, even though COD sold the same as always... so how exactly did they take anything????
They could just come out and say, we expanded our base by XXX% from Bad Company 2 and it would make sense, but no... they have to compare everything to COD and make statements that have no sense... good job EA PR
I feel like a tool for buying BF3, people made it out to be an intelligent alternative to COD, but that was just EA marketing talking. It sounded like you either have to buy COD or BF3, because different species play either game and are incompatible.
Therefore the aloof and snooty bought BF3 and thought "I am teh much smarter then COD fan hehe". What you got though is a broken game(dart glitch, rubbish suppression) and made EA's version of Bobby buy a new private jet.
That is why I feel like a tool. Thumbs up to Megaton who decided to not get involved in the next "it has guns, it is teh cool" game.
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EA 'ships' 15 million of BF3..
Call of Duty: MW3 sold almost 14 million for the 360 alone..can you imagine what the Modern Warfare 'shipped' numbers look like alone?
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Ea also shipped something along the lines of 3.5mil copies of ME3 and only sold Just over 1/3 of those in the first few weeks. This doesn't prove BF3 is taking anything from COD since the sales keep breaking records every year...
@Pekolie
because stores don't order more than what they can sell off and if the game isn't selling then numbers being reported would be a lot lower and if since we're talking 15 mill then it's safe to assume they've sold the majority of that stock.
Therefore, shipped copies isn't something you can just scoff at, and is about as accurate to the success of a game as "sales" numbers would be, if it were possible to accurately retrieve them. And it would be impossible for every store to report to a publisher of the exact amount of copies sold, which is why shipped numbers are quoted instead. The only type of sales that can be 100% accurately tracked are digital sales.
BF3 was a big downgrade from BC2, and as for MW3.....do I really even need to point out the obvious?
I'm not saying BF3 is a bad game (I actually play the game), nor COD (actually, I think it's crap, but that's irrelevant), the thing is most publishers can be back in black with 1/10 of those sales. Expect the next COD-killers from Ubisoft, Square-Enix, Capcom, Konami, Namco...
BF3 I admit has some negative things when compared to BC2 now, but MW3 isn't golden egg either. Still I do enjoy BF3 knife stabbing more than anything else. Taking out a whole squad with knife is an amazing feeling.
Shipped and sold are very different.
BF3 did make quite a few people turn their heads though. Hopefully it pushes EA/Activision to continue to improve their products.
Ppl post lies for no reason. A person running an electronics store, especially a best buy, would not have that many sitting around for all to see. Ive managed stores and one of the things you have to do is keep copies out of view to make it look like theyre selling. Also, stocking up that many doesnt help the retailer at all...your post reeks of CoD fanboyism, get a clue.
15mil shipped is a nice chunk of the FPS market share. Hope they can continue building on this already great game.
Didn't really appreciate the jab there.
I wasn't lying one bit. I live near the Best Buy in Warwick, RI. When I was there going to buy Kingdom of Amalur ,that Best Buy had so many copies of BF3 that they actually put all the extra copies in a glass case they usually keep expensive peripherals, handhelds, ipods, etc. in.
I was surprised to see so many which is why I remember it so vividly. I also gave the game compliments and spoke about what I hope it does for a quickly growing stale FPS market. Thanks for over reacting and calling me a liar.
I am a massive battlefield fanboy. but for me, bf3 is by far the worst battlefield yet. then, they patch the game to unplayability!
i saddens me to write that, but what was worse, is the fact the i traded the game last week!
the bad companies slaughter that game.
and pretty soon, they will be releasing their "cod quarters" dlc. as others have said, ea are obsessed with cod
I mean we are talking about arguably the number 1 vs 2 games in the shooter market, and 15 million shipped is still a decent accomplishment.
If anyone thought EA could kill the competition in 1 year they are delusional, but doing that good last year could mean good things down the road in 1 or 2 or 3 years from now. Especially in the next gen market.
Congrats
For once I wish they'd let their game speak for itself instead of hyping things up and bash their competition. Remember the E3 trailer claiming BF3 was going to have innovative features? Ha load of crap.
BF3 did NOT take any share of the market from COD!
COD still did it's 20 million units and BF3 did it's 15 million showing you that the industry has room for both games.
Now if COD would have only sold like 10-15 then yeah you could say EA took market share but this was not the case.
15m shipped is SOLD cause the Pub gets paid by the store then the store sales them to you and I. I'm sure the new map paks will bolster more sales.
Funny thing is Activision has all but wrapped MW3 up and has moved on to hyping BO2 while EA and BF3 are gonna be here for a while which is a good thing.
BF2 had a lot of expansions and long term support so it would be great if BF3 got the same treatment while we all know COD does things differently.
activision gave up a good game in true crime because they thought it wouldn't sell well look it here sleeping dogs not only look good but has potential to sell well
how man bad movie tie in or spiderman games do we need for every COD?
CoD is sh**t !
Noobs buy CoD!
Amazon has been throwing out sick deals too. Anyways, cya later.
That's what I'd love to see.
Think about it. Whether they are in the hands of consumers or retailers the publisher already made their bank. Games are not sitting in distribution warehouses and retail shelves on consignment. The publishers of said product was paid.
Why is everyone on gaming sites so hung up with sales figures and ratings of games?
All I am stating (factually) is shipped vs sold to consumer might matter to fans wanting to argue popularity or lack there of but to the manufacturer or publisher of said product once shipped = sold. Members of gaming sites are arguing semantics, I'm stating facts.
As soon as the game is in the hands of distribution centers or retailers shelves the publisher / manufacturer already made their bank.
That's it, nothing more.
When are people going to learn that products are not shipped without the manufacturer or publisher being paid to do so. Products are not shipped on consignment, they are paid to be shipped.
People act as though Publishers should only count unit-sold, as if their ethically bound to.
But from the publishers point-of-view, a unit shipped is a unit paid for. bottemline.
Whether it goes to sits on a shelf, or into a gamers hands is completely irrelevent to them, and their profit margins.
let's face it, bf3 was hyped to hell and still is lagging behind. I feel more sorry for bf fans as it's obvious ea wants the crown and seeing as BF3 the "best fps game eva!" still couldn't topple cod they will resort to stripping away more and more of what makes it bf.
Just make YOUR game ea and let those who enjoy it's gameplay support you. Cod fans are NOT interested in what you're selling so just please YOUR fanbase.
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What?
Actually, Bad Company 2 was the most disappointing Battlefield game I've ever played. I even enjoyed BC1 and 1943 a lot more than BC2. Not to say BC2 was bad, because I did have SOME fun with it, but I didn't find anything about the game to be 'amazing'. None of the maps in that game were really great in my opinion.
I hope they take the BF3 route with BC3, at least in regards to the smooth and fast controls.
You claimed you were going to take down the beast that is Call Of Duty and you failed at it. Modern Warfare 3 isn't a great game, but it still beat out Black Ops for number one all time for first day sales, which is a new world record.
I also think Modern Warfare 3 sold close to 15 million on the Xbox 360 by itself. I don't hate Battlefield, but I think that game was built up on hype and had a ton of issues. EA just needs to learn to shut up and let these developers put out games.
If you check the top 10 lists for any month, MW3 is still on it, while Battlefield 3 is nowhere to be seen.
A) There is a considerable amount of COD buyers that bought BF3.
B) BF3 has a different audience from COD.
If case A is true, it's no wonder why so many developers would like to chase that crowd. On the other hand, had it been the latter - devs are no better than chasing a wild goose and should've focused on the market OTHER than the COD (which would make up more that 80% of the console market).
I played Black Ops for a month, traded it in, and continued to play Bad Company 2 for well past a year until the day Battlefield 3 released.
I played MW3 for 4 days and sent it back to Gamefly, then put BF3 back into my system, which I've continued to play since release.
See the trend?
I don't care how many copies MW3 has sold, BF3, even with all its flaws, STILL blows it out of the water. Same goes for the rest of the Battlefield series compared to CoD, except for CoD4; that game was revolutionary for its time.
The point is, as gamers, we shouldn't care about copies sold, but the quality of the game. It isn't money in OUR pockets, is it?
CoD4 was a classic example of fooling the player into thinking he is actually playing an intense military shooter instead of an arcade shooter. i found it the same boring linear game the previous ones were just in a modern setting. just an interactive movie. 1 good sniper level does not make a great game.
Multiplayer BC1 had vehicles and destruction compared to CoD4s kill streaks yet the world barely even noticed BC1. BFBC2 suffered the same fate. See that trend.
I see your point, as Bad Company implemented some awesome innovations, like extreme levels of destructability. However, despite my preference for Battlefield, I feel that BFBC wasn't quite as refined as CoD4 in its time, even though both games offered things that the other didn't. BFBC had a number of issues (server problems, gameplay mechanics, etc.) that CoD4 didn't, which kept it from being a marginally better game. DICE also stopped "supporting" it, if you will, much sooner than they did BFBC2. We didn't see any real type of expansion or add-ons for BFBC like we did BFBC2. I thoroughly enjoyed BFBC; I just think CoD4 was more polished and well-supported.
DICE ramped it up to 100 with BFBC2 and pretty much topped any MP game I've ever played to this day, including the original BFBC as well as CoD4. That's why I played it from launch to BF3 release, and put down CoD4 after a good 6 months. BFBC2 is the game BFBC should've been. I think BF3 is a close match to what BFBC2 was, but its various problems keep it from pushing past it, despite it being an amazing game which I love and continue to play (much like the comparison between BFBC and CoD4).
I'm not quite sure what you mean by BFBC2 suffering a bad fate, as I and many other gamers played it a lot longer than any CoD title...
They could just come out and say, we expanded our base by XXX% from Bad Company 2 and it would make sense, but no... they have to compare everything to COD and make statements that have no sense... good job EA PR
Therefore the aloof and snooty bought BF3 and thought "I am teh much smarter then COD fan hehe". What you got though is a broken game(dart glitch, rubbish suppression) and made EA's version of Bobby buy a new private jet.
That is why I feel like a tool. Thumbs up to Megaton who decided to not get involved in the next "it has guns, it is teh cool" game.
CQ TDM SDM are great and Hardcore is really intense
cant wait to play later today